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Rocket-Bear
Profile Joined July 2014
3070 Posts
February 09 2015 10:45 GMT
#181
Legend's official statement

http://m.dailygame.co.kr/view.php?ud=2015020919324178742

Hopefully it get translated
Favorite players: Gh and Zai
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
February 09 2015 10:45 GMT
#182
On February 09 2015 19:43 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 19:42 BlackCompany wrote:
Easiest liquibet points of my life though. That JinAir victory was never in danger!

You won't get any points from it.

Ah damn, now i feel robbed aswell!
Rocket-Bear
Profile Joined July 2014
3070 Posts
February 09 2015 10:46 GMT
#183
On February 09 2015 19:45 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 19:31 Ragnarork wrote:
On February 09 2015 19:29 Heartland wrote:
I think we should assume that all the community figures are trying to cover up something BIG


Right, all these progamers suddenly making the same joke. It's definitely shady. We need Zealously on the case.

I actually sent an angry message to Life tt

I thought about doing the same to Leenock but I think he's at least as upset as me and me sending negative shit to him isn't going to help the situation. Oh well, just hope for the best and that the players does well in their individual leagues as for now.
Favorite players: Gh and Zai
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2952 Posts
February 09 2015 10:47 GMT
#184
Well, didn't that happen quite often already and they just delayed the games?
I mean, I remember multiple games where someone arrived late and they just gave the team that was there in time 1 def win - but not an entire series...

(Don't know if it happened in a Kespa-tournament, though. )
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
February 09 2015 10:49 GMT
#185
This just sucks for everyone, especially for fans that wanted to watch it live in Korea. I would have prefered if they were more understanding and gave them like 1 loss for every 10 minutes late.
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
February 09 2015 10:49 GMT
#186
On February 09 2015 19:45 BlackCompany wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 19:43 Penev wrote:
On February 09 2015 19:42 BlackCompany wrote:
Easiest liquibet points of my life though. That JinAir victory was never in danger!

You won't get any points from it.

Ah damn, now i feel robbed aswell!


Hahah.

*Match canceled, defwin for JinAir*
"Oh that's a shame, but at least I got my Liquibets rights!"
"You won't get points"
"NOW THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE!"
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28472 Posts
February 09 2015 10:50 GMT
#187
On February 09 2015 19:47 Swisslink wrote:
Well, didn't that happen quite often already and they just delayed the games?
I mean, I remember multiple games where someone arrived late and they just gave the team that was there in time 1 def win - but not an entire series...

(Don't know if it happened in a Kespa-tournament, though. )

Maybe it's unclear/ going to take forever for ST-Yoe to get out of the traffic. KeSPA/ SpotTV not giving any information
I Protoss winner, could it be?
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
February 09 2015 10:51 GMT
#188
Well, uh... I guess I didn't need to wake up early for this -_-
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
February 09 2015 10:51 GMT
#189
Btw a bit unrelated, is FPL done for the season?
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
February 09 2015 10:51 GMT
#190
On February 09 2015 19:45 Rocket-Bear wrote:
Legend's official statement

http://m.dailygame.co.kr/view.php?ud=2015020919324178742

Hopefully it get translated

My Korean is quite bad still, from what I can understand Legend is apologizing and saying that they were departing at the normal time they always do, when they need to go to Proleague, but they were surprised by the snow and then the accident in the tunnel. It seems that authorities reacted quite slow to the accident, so a massive traffic jam was the result.
They communicated with the KeSPA referee and accepted the defwin as there was no chance of getting to the Arena in time.
Moderatoralias TripleM | @TL_TripleM | Big Dark Energy!
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 09 2015 10:52 GMT
#191
at least it isnt the end of season playoffs
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 09 2015 10:52 GMT
#192
On February 09 2015 19:51 DJHelium wrote:
Btw a bit unrelated, is FPL done for the season?

if i remember right yea it's done for the round if that's what you meant. They don't count the playoff matches. Repick teams at the start of next round with new player prices
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
February 09 2015 10:55 GMT
#193
On February 09 2015 19:38 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Guys, please stop with the conspiracy theories... this is not reddit...
Yeah it's much worse...
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
February 09 2015 10:55 GMT
#194
On February 09 2015 19:52 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 19:51 DJHelium wrote:
Btw a bit unrelated, is FPL done for the season?

if i remember right yea it's done for the round if that's what you meant. They don't count the playoff matches. Repick teams at the start of next round with new player prices


Cool! Finished at rank #7, first time I've put my heart and soul into it! :D
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
February 09 2015 10:56 GMT
#195
On February 09 2015 19:49 Ragnarork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 19:45 BlackCompany wrote:
On February 09 2015 19:43 Penev wrote:
On February 09 2015 19:42 BlackCompany wrote:
Easiest liquibet points of my life though. That JinAir victory was never in danger!

You won't get any points from it.

Ah damn, now i feel robbed aswell!


Hahah.

*Match canceled, defwin for JinAir*
"Oh that's a shame, but at least I got my Liquibets rights!"
"You won't get points"
"NOW THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE!"


Thats how the internet works doesnt it? You basicly dont care unless you feel miss-treated - and then you complain!
J/K in all seriousness, shame it went this way. Would have loved to catch vods of a cool series later on :/
swissman777
Profile Joined September 2014
1106 Posts
February 09 2015 10:58 GMT
#196
On February 09 2015 19:31 Clonester wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 19:25 jubil wrote:
On February 09 2015 19:18 Clonester wrote:
Jin Air might come late to SSL Qualifier. "No probs bros"
ST-Yoe sitting in a blizzard "get rekt bros"

Better be part of Kespa.


I dunno man, this is a way worse time to be late since it's an marquee live broadcast event, whereas qualifiers had no audience and no broadcast - so only affecting the players if they have to wait for the late team; also DQ'ing ppl from qualifiers means they don't get play for several months, whereas ST-Y will be back next round, which I don't think should be too far away

Still though, it really sucks that they couldn't just delay the event, or reschedule with giving ST some massive penalties if necessary


They had a fucking full house of fans in the studio and alot of people trying to watch it.
When it is only about ST-Yoe stucking the snow, it is just a no sense action by KESPA: SpoTV likes to show a "oh sorry we have no games" instead of "we are 30 mins late, start will be arround 19:30pm to 20:00pm!"?
Being on hour late due to weather conditions is not more then one swarm host game.

It smells either like there is something REAL going on behind the scenes (when snow is just a bad excuse) with ST-Yoe or KESPA doing everything to save their own teams without caring about their viewers. Nobody can tell me it is better to show a 10 min show "sorry no games today" then waiting additional 1 hour.
In most other sports this is unthinkable.


It's actually not hard to understand Kespa's stance here. I am pretty sure the logic behind this strict rule was to ensure that the teams are always on time so that the live broadcast runs smoothly. It is strict, but otherwise teams would have little incentive to be one time. All it takes are few instances when the broadcasts are late and it would still ruin the professional image of Kespa. Swarmhosts are part of the game, so it's not Kespa's fault, but tardiness is one of the key features of a terrible host, especially with the high standard of the Korean public.

Also, I think the guy at the arena said that the judgement was up to the referee or sth. If that's true, it's the referee's fault here. I'm guessing the SSL qualifiers had a more lenient referee?
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
February 09 2015 11:06 GMT
#197
wow i get back on, see no stream, figured it was a quick 4-0 or w/e

didn't expect this rofl

poor guys
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2952 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-09 11:09:43
February 09 2015 11:07 GMT
#198
On February 09 2015 19:58 swissman777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 19:31 Clonester wrote:
On February 09 2015 19:25 jubil wrote:
On February 09 2015 19:18 Clonester wrote:
Jin Air might come late to SSL Qualifier. "No probs bros"
ST-Yoe sitting in a blizzard "get rekt bros"

Better be part of Kespa.


I dunno man, this is a way worse time to be late since it's an marquee live broadcast event, whereas qualifiers had no audience and no broadcast - so only affecting the players if they have to wait for the late team; also DQ'ing ppl from qualifiers means they don't get play for several months, whereas ST-Y will be back next round, which I don't think should be too far away

Still though, it really sucks that they couldn't just delay the event, or reschedule with giving ST some massive penalties if necessary


They had a fucking full house of fans in the studio and alot of people trying to watch it.
When it is only about ST-Yoe stucking the snow, it is just a no sense action by KESPA: SpoTV likes to show a "oh sorry we have no games" instead of "we are 30 mins late, start will be arround 19:30pm to 20:00pm!"?
Being on hour late due to weather conditions is not more then one swarm host game.

It smells either like there is something REAL going on behind the scenes (when snow is just a bad excuse) with ST-Yoe or KESPA doing everything to save their own teams without caring about their viewers. Nobody can tell me it is better to show a 10 min show "sorry no games today" then waiting additional 1 hour.
In most other sports this is unthinkable.


It's actually not hard to understand Kespa's stance here. I am pretty sure the logic behind this strict rule was to ensure that the teams are always on time so that the live broadcast runs smoothly. It is strict, but otherwise teams would have little incentive to be one time. All it takes are few instances when the broadcasts are late and it would still ruin the professional image of Kespa. Swarmhosts are part of the game, so it's not Kespa's fault, but tardiness is one of the key features of a terrible host, especially with the high standard of the Korean public.

Also, I think the guy at the arena said that the judgement was up to the referee or sth. If that's true, it's the referee's fault here. I'm guessing the SSL qualifiers had a more lenient referee?


Nobody expects them to sentence NO punishment at all. But cancelling an entire series just seems too harsh. Especially considering there was only one series scheduled today instead of 2. And almost EVERYONE accepts a delay because of a traffic accident. In almost every sport that's an accepted excuse, as far as I know.

And I just can't get did of the feeling that the ruling would have been different, if there was one of the big kespa-teams involved.
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
February 09 2015 11:15 GMT
#199
On February 09 2015 20:06 Goibon wrote:
wow i get back on, see no stream, figured it was a quick 4-0 or w/e

didn't expect this rofl

poor guys


Hey, somehow, it was the quickest 4 - 0 ever seen.
LiquipediaWanderer
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
February 09 2015 11:20 GMT
#200
I remember that EG-TL arrived late one time for Proleague and got to start with a 0-1 disadvantage against Woongjin Stars (then they won the match thanks tp Stephano). Why couldn't they do that this time ? Starting a show one hour late is not that bad and everyone would have understood. It's not lile StarTale was responsible at all, there was an accident in a tunnel -__-

I will never understand KeSPA.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
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