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On February 04 2015 14:02 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2015 13:39 HellHound wrote:On February 04 2015 13:03 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 04 2015 12:10 Blargh wrote:On February 04 2015 12:01 The_Templar wrote:On February 04 2015 11:56 Blargh wrote:On February 04 2015 11:41 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
I see Dark walking the path of poor Symbol this season :/ Beats being one of those guys who isn't actually that great, but still wins GSL. Then they never return... -cough- Sniper. -cough- Classic. -cough- Seed. Do you happen to mean the Classic that made the RO4 in Blizzcon, or perhaps the one that reached the RO4 in KeSPA cup? >.> Yeah that's the one. Okay he's not as bad. But seriously, he's not not even top 3 of race. I wouldn't say he's even been that great. He just happened to make it pretty far in some pretty big tournaments. And WCS Finals was like, totally meaningless. Not to discredit MMA or anything, but when MMA gets 2nd place, there is something wrong... Of course, Life went on to win it, which makes perfect sense. Oh, and TaeJa sucks because no results in GSL, we know. Because totally meaningless. herO just tilted and Polt just randomly threw, no big deal, Classic, you're not even top-3. Oh, Classic, sorry, that you randomly killed PartinG, Maru and soO to win Code S and was tearing Proleague apart since your switch to Protoss. And Seed was probably best Protoss in the world when he won Code S. But okay, if Bogus-Maru-Rain-Life are going to choose first, then I'm calling something like that: Bogus-Solar-herO-MMA Maru-MC-Dream-Rogue Rain-Terminator-PartinG-TY Life-Soulkey-YoDa-Dark Didn't everyone think Seed would lose at every stage of his gsl run when he did it :D Byun had no rights to lose to Seed but it's not like MC would have won that season if Byun came to finals. Honestly, probably closest Prime members ever were to winning classic Code S.
pssh, had DRG made it to Busan Life would never have become relevant
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On February 04 2015 14:37 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2015 14:02 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 04 2015 13:39 HellHound wrote:On February 04 2015 13:03 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 04 2015 12:10 Blargh wrote:On February 04 2015 12:01 The_Templar wrote:On February 04 2015 11:56 Blargh wrote:On February 04 2015 11:41 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
I see Dark walking the path of poor Symbol this season :/ Beats being one of those guys who isn't actually that great, but still wins GSL. Then they never return... -cough- Sniper. -cough- Classic. -cough- Seed. Do you happen to mean the Classic that made the RO4 in Blizzcon, or perhaps the one that reached the RO4 in KeSPA cup? >.> Yeah that's the one. Okay he's not as bad. But seriously, he's not not even top 3 of race. I wouldn't say he's even been that great. He just happened to make it pretty far in some pretty big tournaments. And WCS Finals was like, totally meaningless. Not to discredit MMA or anything, but when MMA gets 2nd place, there is something wrong... Of course, Life went on to win it, which makes perfect sense. Oh, and TaeJa sucks because no results in GSL, we know. Because totally meaningless. herO just tilted and Polt just randomly threw, no big deal, Classic, you're not even top-3. Oh, Classic, sorry, that you randomly killed PartinG, Maru and soO to win Code S and was tearing Proleague apart since your switch to Protoss. And Seed was probably best Protoss in the world when he won Code S. But okay, if Bogus-Maru-Rain-Life are going to choose first, then I'm calling something like that: Bogus-Solar-herO-MMA Maru-MC-Dream-Rogue Rain-Terminator-PartinG-TY Life-Soulkey-YoDa-Dark Didn't everyone think Seed would lose at every stage of his gsl run when he did it :D Byun had no rights to lose to Seed but it's not like MC would have won that season if Byun came to finals. Honestly, probably closest Prime members ever were to winning classic Code S. pssh, had DRG made it to Busan Life would never have become relevant
is it weird to think that DRG's peak was 3 years ago?
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On February 04 2015 14:31 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2015 12:10 Blargh wrote:On February 04 2015 12:01 The_Templar wrote:On February 04 2015 11:56 Blargh wrote:On February 04 2015 11:41 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
I see Dark walking the path of poor Symbol this season :/ Beats being one of those guys who isn't actually that great, but still wins GSL. Then they never return... -cough- Sniper. -cough- Classic. -cough- Seed. Do you happen to mean the Classic that made the RO4 in Blizzcon, or perhaps the one that reached the RO4 in KeSPA cup? >.> Yeah that's the one. Okay he's not as bad. But seriously, he's not not even top 3 of race. I wouldn't say he's even been that great. He just happened to make it pretty far in some pretty big tournaments. And WCS Finals was like, totally meaningless. Not to discredit MMA or anything, but when MMA gets 2nd place, there is something wrong... Of course, Life went on to win it, which makes perfect sense. How are you supposed to prove that your one of your race's top player if you discard some results as "meaningless"? According to your personal appreciation of their play? >.>
Because Classic is the hero we deserve, but not the one we need right now. So we'll hate and underate him, because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a dutiful cannonrusher. A Fan favourite destroyer. A Chin Toss.
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On February 04 2015 14:45 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2015 14:31 OtherWorld wrote:On February 04 2015 12:10 Blargh wrote:On February 04 2015 12:01 The_Templar wrote:On February 04 2015 11:56 Blargh wrote:On February 04 2015 11:41 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
I see Dark walking the path of poor Symbol this season :/ Beats being one of those guys who isn't actually that great, but still wins GSL. Then they never return... -cough- Sniper. -cough- Classic. -cough- Seed. Do you happen to mean the Classic that made the RO4 in Blizzcon, or perhaps the one that reached the RO4 in KeSPA cup? >.> Yeah that's the one. Okay he's not as bad. But seriously, he's not not even top 3 of race. I wouldn't say he's even been that great. He just happened to make it pretty far in some pretty big tournaments. And WCS Finals was like, totally meaningless. Not to discredit MMA or anything, but when MMA gets 2nd place, there is something wrong... Of course, Life went on to win it, which makes perfect sense. How are you supposed to prove that your one of your race's top player if you discard some results as "meaningless"? According to your personal appreciation of their play? >.> Because Classic is the hero we deserve, but not the one we need right now. So we'll hate and underate him, because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a dutiful cannonrusher. A Fan favourite destroyer. A Chin Toss.
a "100% fucking noob" - PartinG
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On February 04 2015 14:41 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2015 14:37 Cricketer12 wrote:On February 04 2015 14:02 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 04 2015 13:39 HellHound wrote:On February 04 2015 13:03 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 04 2015 12:10 Blargh wrote:On February 04 2015 12:01 The_Templar wrote:On February 04 2015 11:56 Blargh wrote:On February 04 2015 11:41 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
I see Dark walking the path of poor Symbol this season :/ Beats being one of those guys who isn't actually that great, but still wins GSL. Then they never return... -cough- Sniper. -cough- Classic. -cough- Seed. Do you happen to mean the Classic that made the RO4 in Blizzcon, or perhaps the one that reached the RO4 in KeSPA cup? >.> Yeah that's the one. Okay he's not as bad. But seriously, he's not not even top 3 of race. I wouldn't say he's even been that great. He just happened to make it pretty far in some pretty big tournaments. And WCS Finals was like, totally meaningless. Not to discredit MMA or anything, but when MMA gets 2nd place, there is something wrong... Of course, Life went on to win it, which makes perfect sense. Oh, and TaeJa sucks because no results in GSL, we know. Because totally meaningless. herO just tilted and Polt just randomly threw, no big deal, Classic, you're not even top-3. Oh, Classic, sorry, that you randomly killed PartinG, Maru and soO to win Code S and was tearing Proleague apart since your switch to Protoss. And Seed was probably best Protoss in the world when he won Code S. But okay, if Bogus-Maru-Rain-Life are going to choose first, then I'm calling something like that: Bogus-Solar-herO-MMA Maru-MC-Dream-Rogue Rain-Terminator-PartinG-TY Life-Soulkey-YoDa-Dark Didn't everyone think Seed would lose at every stage of his gsl run when he did it :D Byun had no rights to lose to Seed but it's not like MC would have won that season if Byun came to finals. Honestly, probably closest Prime members ever were to winning classic Code S. pssh, had DRG made it to Busan Life would never have become relevant is it weird to think that DRG's peak was 3 years ago?
it was, which is what im talking about, realize how crushed he was failing to make it to Busan in both GSTL and GSL, had he made it, he prob would have gone on a ridiculous reign for at least another few months, maybe actually winning that iron squid or making it to blizz cup finals for example.
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On February 04 2015 14:45 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2015 14:31 OtherWorld wrote:On February 04 2015 12:10 Blargh wrote:On February 04 2015 12:01 The_Templar wrote:On February 04 2015 11:56 Blargh wrote:On February 04 2015 11:41 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
I see Dark walking the path of poor Symbol this season :/ Beats being one of those guys who isn't actually that great, but still wins GSL. Then they never return... -cough- Sniper. -cough- Classic. -cough- Seed. Do you happen to mean the Classic that made the RO4 in Blizzcon, or perhaps the one that reached the RO4 in KeSPA cup? >.> Yeah that's the one. Okay he's not as bad. But seriously, he's not not even top 3 of race. I wouldn't say he's even been that great. He just happened to make it pretty far in some pretty big tournaments. And WCS Finals was like, totally meaningless. Not to discredit MMA or anything, but when MMA gets 2nd place, there is something wrong... Of course, Life went on to win it, which makes perfect sense. How are you supposed to prove that your one of your race's top player if you discard some results as "meaningless"? According to your personal appreciation of their play? >.> Because Classic is the hero we deserve, but not the one we need right now. So we'll hate and underate him, because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a dutiful cannonrusher. A Fan favourite destroyer. A Chin Toss.
....he is better than Oz, I will without a doubt give you that, I don't know how much else I can give you besides that
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On February 04 2015 14:59 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2015 14:45 GumBa wrote:On February 04 2015 14:31 OtherWorld wrote:On February 04 2015 12:10 Blargh wrote:On February 04 2015 12:01 The_Templar wrote:On February 04 2015 11:56 Blargh wrote:On February 04 2015 11:41 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
I see Dark walking the path of poor Symbol this season :/ Beats being one of those guys who isn't actually that great, but still wins GSL. Then they never return... -cough- Sniper. -cough- Classic. -cough- Seed. Do you happen to mean the Classic that made the RO4 in Blizzcon, or perhaps the one that reached the RO4 in KeSPA cup? >.> Yeah that's the one. Okay he's not as bad. But seriously, he's not not even top 3 of race. I wouldn't say he's even been that great. He just happened to make it pretty far in some pretty big tournaments. And WCS Finals was like, totally meaningless. Not to discredit MMA or anything, but when MMA gets 2nd place, there is something wrong... Of course, Life went on to win it, which makes perfect sense. How are you supposed to prove that your one of your race's top player if you discard some results as "meaningless"? According to your personal appreciation of their play? >.> Because Classic is the hero we deserve, but not the one we need right now. So we'll hate and underate him, because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a dutiful cannonrusher. A Fan favourite destroyer. A Chin Toss. ....he is better than Oz, I will without a doubt give you that, I don't know how much else I can give you besides that
Well he'd wreck San (and DRG) at any time of the day. That's a good start already.
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On February 04 2015 14:59 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2015 14:45 GumBa wrote:On February 04 2015 14:31 OtherWorld wrote:On February 04 2015 12:10 Blargh wrote:On February 04 2015 12:01 The_Templar wrote:On February 04 2015 11:56 Blargh wrote:On February 04 2015 11:41 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
I see Dark walking the path of poor Symbol this season :/ Beats being one of those guys who isn't actually that great, but still wins GSL. Then they never return... -cough- Sniper. -cough- Classic. -cough- Seed. Do you happen to mean the Classic that made the RO4 in Blizzcon, or perhaps the one that reached the RO4 in KeSPA cup? >.> Yeah that's the one. Okay he's not as bad. But seriously, he's not not even top 3 of race. I wouldn't say he's even been that great. He just happened to make it pretty far in some pretty big tournaments. And WCS Finals was like, totally meaningless. Not to discredit MMA or anything, but when MMA gets 2nd place, there is something wrong... Of course, Life went on to win it, which makes perfect sense. How are you supposed to prove that your one of your race's top player if you discard some results as "meaningless"? According to your personal appreciation of their play? >.> Because Classic is the hero we deserve, but not the one we need right now. So we'll hate and underate him, because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a dutiful cannonrusher. A Fan favourite destroyer. A Chin Toss. ....he is better than Oz, I will without a doubt give you that, I don't know how much else I can give you besides that
Also better than San :D
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On February 03 2015 07:37 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2015 05:38 The_Templar wrote:
I hope the selections will be glorious.
And we get an INnoVation/Life/Dark/PartinG group. My..god...now that is a scary group
Switch PartinG with herO or Rain, they are better than PartinG
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On February 04 2015 15:16 MiniFotToss wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2015 07:37 Cricketer12 wrote:On February 03 2015 05:38 The_Templar wrote:
I hope the selections will be glorious.
And we get an INnoVation/Life/Dark/PartinG group. My..god...now that is a scary group Switch PartinG with herO or Rain, they are better than PartinG
Or just kick out the Protoss players altogether and add Maru in the 4th slot.
Just as badass, but more fun :x
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On February 04 2015 15:46 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2015 15:16 MiniFotToss wrote:On February 03 2015 07:37 Cricketer12 wrote:On February 03 2015 05:38 The_Templar wrote:
I hope the selections will be glorious.
And we get an INnoVation/Life/Dark/PartinG group. My..god...now that is a scary group Switch PartinG with herO or Rain, they are better than PartinG Or just kick out the Protoss players altogether and add Maru in the 4th slot. Just as badass, but more fun :x
meh inno life dark parting is fine besides, its impossible for this to happen unless parting orchestrates it all
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On February 04 2015 15:01 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2015 14:59 Cricketer12 wrote:On February 04 2015 14:45 GumBa wrote:On February 04 2015 14:31 OtherWorld wrote:On February 04 2015 12:10 Blargh wrote:On February 04 2015 12:01 The_Templar wrote:On February 04 2015 11:56 Blargh wrote:On February 04 2015 11:41 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
I see Dark walking the path of poor Symbol this season :/ Beats being one of those guys who isn't actually that great, but still wins GSL. Then they never return... -cough- Sniper. -cough- Classic. -cough- Seed. Do you happen to mean the Classic that made the RO4 in Blizzcon, or perhaps the one that reached the RO4 in KeSPA cup? >.> Yeah that's the one. Okay he's not as bad. But seriously, he's not not even top 3 of race. I wouldn't say he's even been that great. He just happened to make it pretty far in some pretty big tournaments. And WCS Finals was like, totally meaningless. Not to discredit MMA or anything, but when MMA gets 2nd place, there is something wrong... Of course, Life went on to win it, which makes perfect sense. How are you supposed to prove that your one of your race's top player if you discard some results as "meaningless"? According to your personal appreciation of their play? >.> Because Classic is the hero we deserve, but not the one we need right now. So we'll hate and underate him, because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a dutiful cannonrusher. A Fan favourite destroyer. A Chin Toss. ....he is better than Oz, I will without a doubt give you that, I don't know how much else I can give you besides that Well he'd wreck San (and DRG) at any time of the day. That's a good start already.
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On February 04 2015 15:46 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2015 15:16 MiniFotToss wrote:On February 03 2015 07:37 Cricketer12 wrote:On February 03 2015 05:38 The_Templar wrote:
I hope the selections will be glorious.
And we get an INnoVation/Life/Dark/PartinG group. My..god...now that is a scary group Switch PartinG with herO or Rain, they are better than PartinG Or just kick out the Protoss players altogether and add Maru in the 4th slot. Just as badass, but more fun :x
Thats actually better, makes it easier for the protosses (Rain, herO, PartinG) to win since two of INnoVation, Maru, Life or Dark (3 god tier, one demi-god tier) will be knocked out
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On February 04 2015 11:11 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
God-tier: Life, Bogus, Maru
Demi-god tier: Soulkey, Rain, PartinG, herO
Top-tier: TY, Dark, Solar
Middle-tier: Dream, Rogue, MMA, Terminator
Will probably be picked among the first-tier: Yoda, MC
The Dark hype is astronomical. I'm not ready to count Solar out until he bombs in the gsl, could just be an SPL thing. Soulkey's fine guys, really. Dream hasn't done a whole lot to convince me he's gotten over his TvT problem and his TvP wasn't quite as impressive as his TvZ, Yonghwa should have beaten him.
I think PartinG is in the tier below. As much as I love him he's not of the same class as the other players. Although he is capable of beating some of the higher tier players like Maru (duh). Same goes for Soulkey. Not totally convinced. I also think Rain and Maru should be switched but based on recent results I won't really fight over it.
Anyway hopefully Rain wins this season. I also want to see a Life vs Inno showdown to determine the best player in the world.
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On February 04 2015 15:59 dazed25 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2015 11:11 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
God-tier: Life, Bogus, Maru
Demi-god tier: Soulkey, Rain, PartinG, herO
Top-tier: TY, Dark, Solar
Middle-tier: Dream, Rogue, MMA, Terminator
Will probably be picked among the first-tier: Yoda, MC
The Dark hype is astronomical. I'm not ready to count Solar out until he bombs in the gsl, could just be an SPL thing. Soulkey's fine guys, really. Dream hasn't done a whole lot to convince me he's gotten over his TvT problem and his TvP wasn't quite as impressive as his TvZ, Yonghwa should have beaten him. I think PartinG is in the tier below. As much as I love him he's not of the same class as the other players. Although he is capable of beating some of the higher tier players like Maru (duh). Same goes for Soulkey. Not totally convinced. I also think Rain and Maru should be switched but based on recent results I won't really fight over it. Anyway hopefully Rain wins this season. I also want to see a Life vs Inno showdown to determine the best player in the world.
I hope Rain wins too
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Except for lack of sOs and soO, this round of 16 makes me believe all is right in the world
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i wish i could watch it live
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This won't be transmitted live?
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Here is my 1-16th ratings!
1) Innovation!
2) Life
3) Maru
4) Dark
5) PartinG
6) herO
7) Rogue
8) Soulkey
9) Rain
10) Yoda
11) MMA
12) Yoda
13) Solar
14) MC
15) TY
16) Terminator
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On February 04 2015 15:59 dazed25 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2015 11:11 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
God-tier: Life, Bogus, Maru
Demi-god tier: Soulkey, Rain, PartinG, herO
Top-tier: TY, Dark, Solar
Middle-tier: Dream, Rogue, MMA, Terminator
Will probably be picked among the first-tier: Yoda, MC
The Dark hype is astronomical. I'm not ready to count Solar out until he bombs in the gsl, could just be an SPL thing. Soulkey's fine guys, really. Dream hasn't done a whole lot to convince me he's gotten over his TvT problem and his TvP wasn't quite as impressive as his TvZ, Yonghwa should have beaten him. I think PartinG is in the tier below. As much as I love him he's not of the same class as the other players. Although he is capable of beating some of the higher tier players like Maru (duh). Same goes for Soulkey. Not totally convinced. I also think Rain and Maru should be switched but based on recent results I won't really fight over it. Anyway hopefully Rain wins this season. I also want to see a Life vs Inno showdown to determine the best player in the world.
Consistency factored in heavily to my rank with more weight given to recent results.
PartinG has essentially been a top-tier protoss since early 2012. He's a Nestea Award recipient and made ro16+ all of last year. He has a comparable win rate to the protoss in his tier. I might even consider him more solid overall than herO, who's only ever made 1 code S ro8 and even fell out of the gsl in s3 last year. For a player of herO's caliber, he seems to have a glaring weakness in PvP. PartinG does not have any obvious flaws imo. Not to mention, he has the best micro of any protoss. Unlike Rain, he also made both Korean leagues for 2015. All together I think he's earned his keep.
Soulkey is just off a semi-final at IEM (beat Rain along the way). Despite what people say, I thought he had a good 2014 as well. Didn't win anything, but he only played in Korea where he was very consistent. He's extremely tenacious as well which is an important quality in this type of tournament.
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