EPT[Code S] Ro32 Group F Season 1 2015 - Page 38
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Hyper_ZerGGling
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Rollora
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On January 17 2015 03:20 lastride wrote: When he was winning 11 games in a row a couple of months ago did you make any smart ass posts like this? No worries. The flash we saw recently was really really bad. I mean like WTF bad. Messing up double proxy rax into bunkters 2 times or 3 times in a row and not knowing that you can't just outmacro a Zerg in SC2 anymore shows he is extremely off these days. So either he does something besides playing SC2 or if he still is focused on SC2, he will return. Every player has his slumps from time to time. I remember when I foresaw life winning tournaments because he was the first zerg that started MICROING units. And he did. But then, after a few wins and impressive matches, he just went "underground" not achieving anything... and now? He is considered one of the best Zergs again. On January 17 2015 08:02 Hyper_ZerGGling wrote: Flash is 5-0 or 6-0 vs Taeja recently, and Flash is average at best in SC2. His true potential shines in Brood War but this not the topic. Jim defeated Taeja in some tournament. PigBaby defeated Taeja to win WCS America. Taeja lost to Major in WCS America. Taeja lost to a lot more. Rain defeated Taeja like 5-0 or 6-0 when he first joined SC2 Pro scene. You must really love Taeja since you remembered every detail of him, congrats man! But um...what is your point exactly? hmm and Taeja is the one I remember having the PERFECT Tournament... both Flash and Taeja had their results, but maybe Terran is too predictable so they get figured out shortly after they reinvent their style over and over again. | ||
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Homunculus159
Austria220 Posts
On January 17 2015 08:02 Hyper_ZerGGling wrote: Flash is 5-0 or 6-0 vs Taeja recently, and Flash is average at best in SC2. His true potential shines in Brood War but this not the topic. Jim defeated Taeja in some tournament. PigBaby defeated Taeja to win WCS America. Taeja lost to Major in WCS America. Taeja lost to a lot more. Rain defeated Taeja like 5-0 or 6-0 when he first joined SC2 Pro scene. You must really love Taeja since you remembered every detail of him, congrats man! But um...what is your point exactly? Lol i looked that stuff up. Not that hard. Taeja 6:1 vs Flash. And it was actually in a period of time where Flash was winning a lot. He won IEM Torronto against Zest in the finals if you wanna know. My point is since you still seem not to be able to understand is that Taeja is, despite what you say Code S Material. He has made the semis twice something cjherO for instance didn´t do since you seem to like to bring him up. If you are gonna say herO is consistent because he made the Round of 8 once and the Round of 16 twice in GSL and won a bunch of IEMs and then go on and say Taeja is not consistent because he never was in a GSL final and only wins weekend tournaments you are a hypocrite and just hate him for the sake of hating. Like I said numerous times and this is the last time I am gonna say it. Nobody is saying Taeja is way better or just better than the Kespa Koreans. But he can hold his own and trade wins with them easily. | ||
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Hyper_ZerGGling
12 Posts
The game itself, StarCraft 2, is the reason there is no best player in StarCraft 2. Anyone can LOSE to anyone, at any given time. Which is the reason for the closer gap between professional foreigners and profession Koreans. | ||
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Homunculus159
Austria220 Posts
On January 17 2015 08:15 Hyper_ZerGGling wrote: No...Terran is not too predictable...it's the game...StarCraft 2 itself. It is nothing like Brood War. Everything is completely simplified in StarCraft 2 and the Units make it very hard to harrass and micro and players are usually forced to fight at 200. The game itself, StarCraft 2, is the reason there is no best player in StarCraft 2. Anyone can LOSE to anyone, at any given time. Which is the reason for the closer gap between professional foreigners and profession Koreans. Actually the gap between Foreigners and Koreans SC 2 is pretty big especially between Foreigners and the Kespa Koreans. Only Snute and Bunny right now can somehow take maps of them and in the end they still lose | ||
SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On January 17 2015 08:17 Homunculus159 wrote: Actually the gap between Foreigners and Koreans SC 2 is pretty big especially between Foreigners and the Kespa Koreans. Only Snute and Bunny right now can somehow take maps of them and in the end they still lose I'm pretty sure Bly beat Rain not too long ago, so foreigner > kespa korean upsets can happen more than you think. | ||
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Homunculus159
Austria220 Posts
On January 17 2015 08:18 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I'm pretty sure Bly beat Rain not too long ago, so foreigner > kespa korean upsets can happen more than you think. Oh really? Hmm seems like I did not catch that :D | ||
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Hyper_ZerGGling
12 Posts
On January 17 2015 08:14 Homunculus159 wrote: Lol i looked that stuff up. Not that hard. Taeja 6:1 vs Flash. And it was actually in a period of time where Flash was winning a lot. He won IEM Torronto against Zest in the finals if you wanna know. My point is since you still seem not to be able to understand is that Taeja is, despite what you say Code S Material. He has made the semis twice something cjherO for instance didn´t do since you seem to like to bring him up. If you are gonna say herO is consistent because he made the Round of 8 once and the Round of 16 twice in GSL and won a bunch of IEMs and then go on and say Taeja is not consistent because he never was in a GSL final and only wins weekend tournaments you are a hypocrite and just hate him for the sake of hating. Like I said numerous times and this is the last time I am gonna say it. Nobody is saying Taeja is way better or just better than the Kespa Koreans. But he can hold his own and trade wins with them easily. How about this, my "friend"...Taeja has yet proved to be consistent vs the best of the best in Korea (I'll keep things simple for you). Let's give him this entire year to see how he does in Korea (if he even stays in Korea, but my bet is once he does poorly TeamLiquid will pull him out and tells him to play more International Tournaments, easier money of course for Taeja and TeamLiquid). This is common sense if you have a business standpoint in mind. And yes Taeja is consistent...in International Tournaments only. Until he does well in the Korean scene this year, he is not consistent vs KESPA pros. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18407 Posts
On January 17 2015 08:14 Homunculus159 wrote: Lol i looked that stuff up. Not that hard. Taeja 6:1 vs Flash. And it was actually in a period of time where Flash was winning a lot. He won IEM Torronto against Zest in the finals if you wanna know. My point is since you still seem not to be able to understand is that Taeja is, despite what you say Code S Material. He has made the semis twice something cjherO for instance didn´t do since you seem to like to bring him up. If you are gonna say herO is consistent because he made the Round of 8 once and the Round of 16 twice in GSL and won a bunch of IEMs and then go on and say Taeja is not consistent because he never was in a GSL final and only wins weekend tournaments you are a hypocrite and just hate him for the sake of hating. Like I said numerous times and this is the last time I am gonna say it. Nobody is saying Taeja is way better or just better than the Kespa Koreans. But he can hold his own and trade wins with them easily. The thing is, herO has proven himself in big tournaments vs Koreans before. In IEM WC and Kespa Cup he faced only Koreans and reached the finals with outstanding play. He even crushed Top Korean terrans at a time everyone was crying TvP imbalance. He has done this. That's why he gets so much praise even without special GSL achievements. | ||
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Hyper_ZerGGling
12 Posts
Best out of 3 or 5 in a preparation tournament (e.g. GSL), good luck foreigners. Their chance of foreigner winning has reduced dramatically due to the fact that you have time to prepare for a specific opponent, hence Taeja's weakness and he can never be considered a Top 10 player if he cannot CONSISTENTLY prepare well for his opponents. | ||
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Homunculus159
Austria220 Posts
On January 17 2015 08:22 sharkie wrote: The thing is, herO has proven himself in big tournaments vs Koreans before. In IEM WC and Kespa Cup he faced only Koreans and reached the finals with outstanding play. He even crushed Top Korean terrans at a time everyone was crying TvP imbalance. He has done this. That's why he gets so much praise even without special GSL achievements. I know i know^^ it is just that he keeps saying consistency is and telling me he has to be in a gsl final or win one and the goes and lists herO who has not been in a gsl final  To me it seems like he has some kind of grudge against Taeja :D | ||
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Homunculus159
Austria220 Posts
On January 17 2015 08:20 Hyper_ZerGGling wrote: How about this, my "friend"...Taeja has yet proved to be consistent vs the best of the best in Korea (I'll keep things simple for you). Let's give him this entire year to see how he does in Korea (if he even stays in Korea, but my bet is once he does poorly TeamLiquid will pull him out and tells him to play more International Tournaments, easier money of course for Taeja and TeamLiquid). This is common sense if you have a business standpoint in mind. And yes Taeja is consistent...in International Tournaments only. Until he does well in the Korean scene this year, he is not consistent vs KESPA pros. Yeah we will see i guess | ||
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Hyper_ZerGGling
12 Posts
On January 17 2015 08:28 Homunculus159 wrote: I know i know^^ it is just that he keeps saying consistency is and telling me he has to be in a gsl final or win one and the goes and lists herO who has not been in a gsl final To me it seems like he has some kind of grudge against Taeja :D nope...just putting a shining light bulb on blinded fans. I think a lot of them were heart crushed last night...I don't take sides but I give respects to where they're dued. You see how Flash and Jaedong were monstrously good in Brood War...yet I consider Flash average in SC2 and Jaedong mediocore. I would never mention them as Top 10 players, maybe Top 20 for Flash and Jaedong Top 50. I consider Taeja top 3 or 5 for International Tournaments. In Korea...he is Top 30 in my eyes. Again, I give respects to where they're due...and I don't exaggerate or take sides of players (unlike them biased american casters, lol!) | ||
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Homunculus159
Austria220 Posts
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Nayolbi
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