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Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
January 07 2015 12:06 GMT
#681
On January 07 2015 21:03 Circumstance wrote:
SHIT, I missed the maps. KSS first, I heard them mention Foxtrot, did anyone catch it?

Sejong, Overgrowth and Merry Go Round. Everyone vetoes every other map.
Flash | Mvp
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
January 07 2015 12:06 GMT
#682
On January 07 2015 21:00 maartendq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 20:58 OtherWorld wrote:
On January 07 2015 20:56 maartendq wrote:
On January 07 2015 20:52 OtherWorld wrote:
On January 07 2015 20:50 maartendq wrote:
On January 07 2015 20:45 KoRStarvid wrote:
It can't be stated enough: MC killer instinct is real

Not really. Just MC doing the only thing he is good at: all-ins and cheese. The guy pretty much built his entire career around that playstyle.

If every cheesy player was as successful as MC, do you think he would be as well-known as he is?

There isn't a single person who is as cheesy as MC, not on this level. It's his main strength actually: you never know what he is going to do. He is completely unpredictable.

The reason I don't like his playstyle much is because I prefer macro-oriented games with lots of multitasking and action all over the map.

Well yeah you can dislike his playstyle. But the way he plays his all-ins and cheeses is killer-instinct. That's why he won so much by cheesing so much (and with such an impressive consistency).

It also helps that Protoss cheese has a large chance of winning even when it gets scouted relatively early. The whole protoss race seems to be built around early-game (immortal) timings and all-ins, or late-game deathballs that are extremely hard to beat.

And thats bad? All the protoss all ins are beatable if you know they are coming. On of the things that makes MC so dangerous is that really good at knowing whats going to happen in a fight before that fight happens and will commit or not commit based on that. Take the last game. His super far proxy got scouted and he still went for because Fantasy attacked the Pylon and then was right that under timewarp and with the core and stalkers the oracle could beat the marine group. It did. The game ended there and it was just a bleed out after
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
SharkStarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria2225 Posts
January 07 2015 12:06 GMT
#683
On January 07 2015 21:04 Pandemona wrote:
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On January 07 2015 21:02 SharkStarcraft wrote:
On January 07 2015 21:00 Pandemona wrote:
Think MC has convinced me to have a cheese and ham panini for lunch :3


You eat lunch right at 12:00? i thought that only happens in fairytales, i rarely manage to eat anything until at least 2 pm


Haha i meant i will go and get one. I won't be going out on my break until 45mins-1hour more yet. It not even a break i have to go and do the banking TT


ok haha that comforts me cause the only person i know who can eat right at 12 is my grandma.
Cogito, ergo Toss
ucDarchon
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany119 Posts
January 07 2015 12:07 GMT
#684
Welp, let's try not to judge Tastosis on their ZvZ casting. I haven't heard a decent ZvZ cast in a thousand years.
Philozovic
Profile Joined August 2012
France1676 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-07 12:08:26
January 07 2015 12:07 GMT
#685
On January 07 2015 20:58 Xoronius wrote:
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On January 07 2015 20:56 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On January 07 2015 20:52 Sakkreth wrote:
On January 07 2015 20:50 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On January 07 2015 20:48 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On January 07 2015 20:48 The_Red_Viper wrote:
damn the realization that MC is in the next round and either Rogue or Fantasy won't be just hit me hard...
Such a waste -.-


Told you he was gonna get out :p

Yeah i didn't respect the power of protoss enough i guess.
Still the better players won't advance now..
Perfect example why gsl style groups are inferior to round robin


MC best player in the group, stay Salty.

No he is not, that's more than absurd.
He just got lucky with penguin as first match

There can be some debate about him, but this is getting ridicolous. You don't quadruple Fantasy's bw earnings by being lucky and MC did that. He is the best RTS player in that group and by far the best SC2 player.



Edit : Daaaa I'm dumb, missread it
INnoVation is the absolute best | I wept for i knew his words to be true
Rehio
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1718 Posts
January 07 2015 12:07 GMT
#686
Sometimes I wonder if Tasteless and Artosis even know there's a game going on.
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
January 07 2015 12:07 GMT
#687
ZvZ is just so hard for me to watch, guess I should off-race Zerg a bit to understand it? Or just ignore it?
In Inca we trust
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
January 07 2015 12:09 GMT
#688
On January 07 2015 21:07 ucDarchon wrote:
Welp, let's try not to judge Tastosis on their ZvZ casting. I haven't heard a decent ZvZ cast in a thousand years.


Snute is super good at explaining ZvZ and making it interesting!
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
duckk
Profile Joined March 2013
United States622 Posts
January 07 2015 12:09 GMT
#689
MC advancing is surprising, but he has very strong allins.

Penguin has pretty weak zvz vs mutas. Hopefully rogue is warmed up from his micro errors earlier and gets a rematch.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
January 07 2015 12:09 GMT
#690
muta vs muta :D

to think I would actually miss this brand of ZvZ.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
January 07 2015 12:09 GMT
#691
On January 07 2015 21:06 SharkStarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 21:04 Pandemona wrote:
On January 07 2015 21:02 SharkStarcraft wrote:
On January 07 2015 21:00 Pandemona wrote:
Think MC has convinced me to have a cheese and ham panini for lunch :3


You eat lunch right at 12:00? i thought that only happens in fairytales, i rarely manage to eat anything until at least 2 pm


Haha i meant i will go and get one. I won't be going out on my break until 45mins-1hour more yet. It not even a break i have to go and do the banking TT


ok haha that comforts me cause the only person i know who can eat right at 12 is my grandma.


Haha xD
Yeah it is annoying at work as the local bank here is a joke and queue is out the door until around 1ish so i normally go around then to pick my food up. But then by the time i get to panini shop or said lunch shop of the day they have ran out of stuff TT
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Rehio
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1718 Posts
January 07 2015 12:09 GMT
#692
On January 07 2015 21:07 las91 wrote:
ZvZ is just so hard for me to watch, guess I should off-race Zerg a bit to understand it? Or just ignore it?


Well understanding it certainly makes it more fun to watch. If you want to put the effort in, go for it. :D
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
January 07 2015 12:09 GMT
#693
Not crazy about putting important tech structures in the forward part of the natural.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
January 07 2015 12:10 GMT
#694
On January 07 2015 21:07 Rehio wrote:
Sometimes I wonder if Tasteless and Artosis even know there's a game going on.

I know I prefer listening to their banter than a play-by-play of a ZvZ.
Flash | Mvp
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-07 12:10:52
January 07 2015 12:10 GMT
#695
On January 07 2015 21:01 dazed25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 20:56 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On January 07 2015 20:52 Sakkreth wrote:
On January 07 2015 20:50 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On January 07 2015 20:48 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On January 07 2015 20:48 The_Red_Viper wrote:
damn the realization that MC is in the next round and either Rogue or Fantasy won't be just hit me hard...
Such a waste -.-


Told you he was gonna get out :p

Yeah i didn't respect the power of protoss enough i guess.
Still the better players won't advance now..
Perfect example why gsl style groups are inferior to round robin


MC best player in the group, stay Salty.

No he is not, that's more than absurd.
He just got lucky with penguin as first match


The other players might have had better macro/micro or a better playstyle, but on this day MC was the best player in the group. There aren't that many players with both the intelligence and balls to play like he does. It wasn't just luck. MC is still pretty relevant in SC2 in 2015 and you can just look at his close series with herO recently for how good he is. His strength isn't his micro/macro but as others have said his killer instinct.

I am not saying that it is "pure luck", but MC really isn't that good anymore. Just look at his stats against koreans in the last few months.
Stats don't lie. He somehow advanced today, but i still don't doubt that he has absolutely no chance to get far in gsl.
GSL groups surely helped him today though...


But whatever, gogo rogue!
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Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
January 07 2015 12:11 GMT
#696
On January 07 2015 21:10 Ctesias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 21:07 Rehio wrote:
Sometimes I wonder if Tasteless and Artosis even know there's a game going on.

I know I prefer listening to their banter than a play-by-play of a ZvZ.

In any matchup's early game when there isn't major activity happening,I'll take a tete-a-tete on Batman characters.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
January 07 2015 12:12 GMT
#697
On January 07 2015 21:03 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 21:00 Big J wrote:
On January 07 2015 20:59 Ctesias wrote:
On January 07 2015 20:56 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On January 07 2015 20:52 Sakkreth wrote:
On January 07 2015 20:50 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On January 07 2015 20:48 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On January 07 2015 20:48 The_Red_Viper wrote:
damn the realization that MC is in the next round and either Rogue or Fantasy won't be just hit me hard...
Such a waste -.-


Told you he was gonna get out :p

Yeah i didn't respect the power of protoss enough i guess.
Still the better players won't advance now..
Perfect example why gsl style groups are inferior to round robin


MC best player in the group, stay Salty.

No he is not, that's more than absurd.
He just got lucky with penguin as first match

If he got lucky with Penguin, and then beat Fantasy, who beat a terrible-form Rogue, how can MC not be the best player in the group?

Are you saying that Rogue is the best player in the group?

Rouge is the best player in the group though.

Edit: or MC. Not sure how good he really is, hard to tell right now.


Rouge=makeup :D

And I agree he's the best in the group, but imo it's no big upset that either Fantasy or MC would beat him.

GSL had Rouge in the past though
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Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
January 07 2015 12:13 GMT
#698
On January 07 2015 21:10 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 21:01 dazed25 wrote:
On January 07 2015 20:56 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On January 07 2015 20:52 Sakkreth wrote:
On January 07 2015 20:50 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On January 07 2015 20:48 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On January 07 2015 20:48 The_Red_Viper wrote:
damn the realization that MC is in the next round and either Rogue or Fantasy won't be just hit me hard...
Such a waste -.-


Told you he was gonna get out :p

Yeah i didn't respect the power of protoss enough i guess.
Still the better players won't advance now..
Perfect example why gsl style groups are inferior to round robin


MC best player in the group, stay Salty.

No he is not, that's more than absurd.
He just got lucky with penguin as first match


The other players might have had better macro/micro or a better playstyle, but on this day MC was the best player in the group. There aren't that many players with both the intelligence and balls to play like he does. It wasn't just luck. MC is still pretty relevant in SC2 in 2015 and you can just look at his close series with herO recently for how good he is. His strength isn't his micro/macro but as others have said his killer instinct.

I am not saying that it is "pure luck", but MC really isn't that good anymore. Just look at his stats against koreans in the last few months.
Stats don't lie. He somehow advanced today, but i still don't doubt that he has absolutely no chance to get far in gsl.
GSL groups surely helped him today though...


But whatever, gogo rogue!

Stats don't lie, but Stats don't qualify for the GSL either because he was knocked out by a player that MC made a mockery of today.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
duckk
Profile Joined March 2013
United States622 Posts
January 07 2015 12:13 GMT
#699
oh no... infestor switches is how you lose muta mirror.... poor rogue even if you hit fungals it wont matter.
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
January 07 2015 12:13 GMT
#700
On January 07 2015 21:11 Circumstance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 21:10 Ctesias wrote:
On January 07 2015 21:07 Rehio wrote:
Sometimes I wonder if Tasteless and Artosis even know there's a game going on.

I know I prefer listening to their banter than a play-by-play of a ZvZ.

In any matchup's early game when there isn't major activity happening,I'll take a tete-a-tete on Batman characters.

Whatever will we do come LotV?
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