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Ctesias
4595 Posts
On January 07 2015 20:56 The_Red_Viper wrote: No he is not, that's more than absurd. He just got lucky with penguin as first match If he got lucky with Penguin, and then beat Fantasy, who beat a terrible-form Rogue, how can MC not be the best player in the group? Are you saying that Rogue is the best player in the group? | ||
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Brett
Australia3822 Posts
On January 07 2015 20:56 The_Red_Viper wrote: No he is not, that's more than absurd. He just got lucky with penguin as first match Not saying he is or isn't the best player in the group, but you can only play the player in front of you and MC was clearly better than penguin and fantasy tonight... That's not really arguable. | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On January 07 2015 20:56 sparklyresidue wrote: I'm surprised Fantasy beat Rogue, even with the current meta. I wonder if he'll be able to do it again (assuming Rogue wins, I guess ZvZ is still pretty knife-fightey). I think so. Fantasy has been getting into form lately and TvZ always seemed like his best matchup. He even beat Life not too long ago. | ||
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On January 07 2015 20:59 Ctesias wrote: If he got lucky with Penguin, and then beat Fantasy, who beat a terrible-form Rogue, how can MC not be the best player in the group? Are you saying that Rogue is the best player in the group? In terms of "pure skill," probably. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On January 07 2015 20:58 Tobblish wrote: I'm not sure if you're serious or sarcastic. If you think I'm being sarcastic, explain why there are way more players who achieved a legendary status in SC2 by having mostly a macro-oriented style than players who achieved it by being mostly cheesy like MC | ||
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maartendq
Belgium3115 Posts
On January 07 2015 20:58 OtherWorld wrote: Well yeah you can dislike his playstyle. But the way he plays his all-ins and cheeses is killer-instinct. That's why he won so much by cheesing so much (and with such an impressive consistency). It also helps that Protoss cheese has a large chance of winning even when it gets scouted relatively early. The whole protoss race seems to be built around early-game (immortal) timings and all-ins, or late-game deathballs that are extremely hard to beat. | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On January 07 2015 20:59 Ctesias wrote: If he got lucky with Penguin, and then beat Fantasy, who beat a terrible-form Rogue, how can MC not be the best player in the group? Are you saying that Rogue is the best player in the group? Rouge is the best player in the group though. Edit: or MC. Not sure how good he really is, hard to tell right now. | ||
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SharkStarcraft
Austria2274 Posts
Even if he wins a map here i guess. | ||
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dazed25
3566 Posts
On January 07 2015 20:56 The_Red_Viper wrote: No he is not, that's more than absurd. He just got lucky with penguin as first match The other players might have had better macro/micro or a better playstyle, but on this day MC was the best player in the group. There aren't that many players with both the intelligence and balls to play like he does. It wasn't just luck. MC is still pretty relevant in SC2 in 2015 and you can just look at his close series with herO recently for how good he is. His strength isn't his micro/macro but as others have said his killer instinct. | ||
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SharkStarcraft
Austria2274 Posts
On January 07 2015 21:00 Pandemona wrote: Think MC has convinced me to have a cheese and ham panini for lunch :3 You eat lunch right at 12:00? i thought that only happens in fairytales, i rarely manage to eat anything until at least 2 pm | ||
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las91
United States5080 Posts
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Severen
Australia10 Posts
On January 07 2015 20:58 SharkStarcraft wrote: As much as i like MC i think he just blindly all-inned there without really knowing what kind of preparation fantasy took. I mean he never really scouted after his stargate got scouted so he didnt really know how much fantasy committed to defense and just went for it. agreed. people are over thinking it. MC just stuck to his plan from the start regardless of what happened in game and came out on top. thats fair enough but it is not killer instinct lol. | ||
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RaFox17
Finland4581 Posts
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DJHelium
Sweden13480 Posts
On January 07 2015 21:00 Big J wrote: Rouge is the best player in the group though. Edit: or MC. Not sure how good he really is, hard to tell right now. Rouge=makeup :D And I agree he's the best in the group, but imo it's no big upset that either Fantasy or MC would beat him. | ||
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Tobblish
Sweden6404 Posts
On January 07 2015 21:00 OtherWorld wrote: If you think I'm being sarcastic, explain why there are way more players who achieved a legendary status in SC2 by having mostly a macro-oriented style than players who achieved it by being mostly cheesy like MC If you honestly think that a player who follows up his allin with more units when he spots that a Terran's bunker is late makes you have killer instinct I'm lost for words. | ||
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Brett
Australia3822 Posts
On January 07 2015 20:58 Xoronius wrote: There can be some debate about him, but this is getting ridicolous. You don't quadruple Fantasy's bw earnings by being lucky and MC did that. He is the best RTS player in that group and by far the best SC2 player. You can't fairly compare Fanta's prize money to MC's. They've each been dominant in different games with different histories. And ignoring Fantasy's performances in incredibly stacked BW tournaments and blindly declaring MC the better RTS player is rubbish. He was the better player tonight. That's about all that can be said. | ||
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Circumstance
United States11403 Posts
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Sakkreth
Lithuania1096 Posts
On January 07 2015 21:02 Severen wrote: agreed. people are over thinking it. MC just stuck to his plan from the start regardless of what happened in game and came out on top. thats fair enough but it is not killer instinct lol. It's only killer instinct when MVP proxies 2 rax in game 7. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On January 07 2015 21:02 SharkStarcraft wrote: You eat lunch right at 12:00? i thought that only happens in fairytales, i rarely manage to eat anything until at least 2 pm Haha i meant i will go and get one. I won't be going out on my break until 45mins-1hour more yet. It not even a break i have to go and do the banking TT | ||
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