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On August 20 2014 19:08 DJHelium wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2014 19:06 Big J wrote:On August 20 2014 19:03 DJHelium wrote:On August 20 2014 19:02 Big J wrote:On August 20 2014 19:00 Schelim wrote: TRUEly impressive play. TY should've made some marauders though. I think he should be pushing harder instead of always having half his army in medivacs. If he would push, he would limit the creepspread and then he wouldn't have fight on creep against speed banes all the time later on. I dunno, shouldn't it be much easier to hold off parade pushes when not going for mutas? Not really, because then the Terran can always pick up and go home, completely dictating the flow. And then, once you have limited the creep spread, you can still go into drops. But I think since TRUE went so queen heavy and Ty so dropheavy, it just became very hard to move out for Ty later on. He always had to stop right outside of his 4th area to clean up creep and would then sit with his army on hold for a minute or so. So if going mutas is stronger vs drops and stronger vs big pushes, in what way is pure ling-bling better?
Well, playing with mutas is just better than without.  Also in g2, True played with mutas. Just not the 30+ mutalisk stuff or the muta before upgrades, but rather the 15mutas but focus on upgrades, creep, baneling speed etc first.
And pure ling/bling is better at beating allinish plays or pushing yourself.
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On August 20 2014 19:03 dustinth wrote: TY is really bad. lol no. no way. under no circumstances can you say TY is bad and mean it seriously.
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In Kespa Cup, Parting lost to Dear 2.0 aka Zest. Now he faces Dear 1.0. If he loses here, he meets Seed, Dear beta version.
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On August 20 2014 19:12 Big J wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2014 19:08 DJHelium wrote:On August 20 2014 19:06 Big J wrote:On August 20 2014 19:03 DJHelium wrote:On August 20 2014 19:02 Big J wrote:On August 20 2014 19:00 Schelim wrote: TRUEly impressive play. TY should've made some marauders though. I think he should be pushing harder instead of always having half his army in medivacs. If he would push, he would limit the creepspread and then he wouldn't have fight on creep against speed banes all the time later on. I dunno, shouldn't it be much easier to hold off parade pushes when not going for mutas? Not really, because then the Terran can always pick up and go home, completely dictating the flow. And then, once you have limited the creep spread, you can still go into drops. But I think since TRUE went so queen heavy and Ty so dropheavy, it just became very hard to move out for Ty later on. He always had to stop right outside of his 4th area to clean up creep and would then sit with his army on hold for a minute or so. So if going mutas is stronger vs drops and stronger vs big pushes, in what way is pure ling-bling better? Well, playing with mutas is just better than without.  Also in g2, True played with mutas. Just not the 30+ mutalisk stuff or the muta before upgrades, but rather the 15mutas but focus on upgrades, creep, baneling speed etc first.
:D
And yeah, I think I agree. Mutas are so annoying.
Not being prepared vs the style is a strength too I guess.
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On August 20 2014 19:13 stuchiu wrote: In Kespa Cup, Parting lost to Dear 2.0 aka Zest. Now he faces Dear 1.0. If he loses here, he meets Seed, Dear beta version.
But Zest is still good so he can't be Dear 2.0.
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On August 20 2014 19:12 Big J wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2014 19:08 DJHelium wrote:On August 20 2014 19:06 Big J wrote:On August 20 2014 19:03 DJHelium wrote:On August 20 2014 19:02 Big J wrote:On August 20 2014 19:00 Schelim wrote: TRUEly impressive play. TY should've made some marauders though. I think he should be pushing harder instead of always having half his army in medivacs. If he would push, he would limit the creepspread and then he wouldn't have fight on creep against speed banes all the time later on. I dunno, shouldn't it be much easier to hold off parade pushes when not going for mutas? Not really, because then the Terran can always pick up and go home, completely dictating the flow. And then, once you have limited the creep spread, you can still go into drops. But I think since TRUE went so queen heavy and Ty so dropheavy, it just became very hard to move out for Ty later on. He always had to stop right outside of his 4th area to clean up creep and would then sit with his army on hold for a minute or so. So if going mutas is stronger vs drops and stronger vs big pushes, in what way is pure ling-bling better? Well, playing with mutas is just better than without.  Also in g2, True played with mutas. Just not the 30+ mutalisk stuff or the muta before upgrades, but rather the 15mutas but focus on upgrades, creep, baneling speed etc first. And pure ling/bling is better at beating allinish plays or pushing yourself. I was struck by how few mutas he lost too. By the first attack against the fourth, he had only lost four mutas, despite using them to shut down drops the whole game. That's remarkably low, his muta micro and general awareness were just outstanding. It let him save so much gas for upgrades and banes rather than replacing mutas. It's like JD in reverse.
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PvP seems a bit unstable again?
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Poll: Recommend Dear vs. PartinG Game 1?★★★- Good game (7) 54% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (4) 31% ★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 8% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 8% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% 13 total votes Your vote: Recommend Dear vs. PartinG Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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YES DEAR!!!
Great target fire.
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ah Christ! i come back and it s already 1-0...
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Eat that PartinG!!!!! Gogo Dear
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On August 20 2014 19:14 WTCO wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2014 19:13 stuchiu wrote: In Kespa Cup, Parting lost to Dear 2.0 aka Zest. Now he faces Dear 1.0. If he loses here, he meets Seed, Dear beta version. But Zest is still good so he can't be Dear 2.0.
Dear 2.0 has a longer shelf time!
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On August 20 2014 19:15 Ketch wrote: PvP seems a bit unstable again?
any matchup looks unstable when no one can scout.
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Was grabbing myself some lunch, what happened in G1?
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is the op not updated at all?
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Thanks for the thread WTCO! Could you make it so the polls have fixed positions for the different alternatives? 
And Yello, was it you I faced on ladder yesterday!?
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Round 2!
Lets see what other strats this movie has to offer
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On August 20 2014 19:16 BlackCompany wrote: Was grabbing myself some lunch, what happened in G1? Dear made his stargate first, won with phoenix stalker
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