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Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-20 10:12:57
August 20 2014 10:12 GMT
#261
On August 20 2014 19:08 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 19:06 Big J wrote:
On August 20 2014 19:03 DJHelium wrote:
On August 20 2014 19:02 Big J wrote:
On August 20 2014 19:00 Schelim wrote:
TRUEly impressive play. TY should've made some marauders though.


I think he should be pushing harder instead of always having half his army in medivacs. If he would push, he would limit the creepspread and then he wouldn't have fight on creep against speed banes all the time later on.


I dunno, shouldn't it be much easier to hold off parade pushes when not going for mutas?


Not really, because then the Terran can always pick up and go home, completely dictating the flow.
And then, once you have limited the creep spread, you can still go into drops. But I think since TRUE went so queen heavy and Ty so dropheavy, it just became very hard to move out for Ty later on. He always had to stop right outside of his 4th area to clean up creep and would then sit with his army on hold for a minute or so.


So if going mutas is stronger vs drops and stronger vs big pushes, in what way is pure ling-bling better?


Well, playing with mutas is just better than without.
Also in g2, True played with mutas. Just not the 30+ mutalisk stuff or the muta before upgrades, but rather the 15mutas but focus on upgrades, creep, baneling speed etc first.

And pure ling/bling is better at beating allinish plays or pushing yourself.
Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
August 20 2014 10:12 GMT
#262
On August 20 2014 19:03 dustinth wrote:
TY is really bad.

lol no. no way. under no circumstances can you say TY is bad and mean it seriously.
JangBi forever <3 || Classic! herO! Rain! Zest! | Rogue! Hydra! Solar! | Fantasy! Cure! Reality! Sorry! Journey!
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 20 2014 10:13 GMT
#263
In Kespa Cup, Parting lost to Dear 2.0 aka Zest. Now he faces Dear 1.0. If he loses here, he meets Seed, Dear beta version.
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DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
August 20 2014 10:13 GMT
#264
On August 20 2014 19:12 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 19:08 DJHelium wrote:
On August 20 2014 19:06 Big J wrote:
On August 20 2014 19:03 DJHelium wrote:
On August 20 2014 19:02 Big J wrote:
On August 20 2014 19:00 Schelim wrote:
TRUEly impressive play. TY should've made some marauders though.


I think he should be pushing harder instead of always having half his army in medivacs. If he would push, he would limit the creepspread and then he wouldn't have fight on creep against speed banes all the time later on.


I dunno, shouldn't it be much easier to hold off parade pushes when not going for mutas?


Not really, because then the Terran can always pick up and go home, completely dictating the flow.
And then, once you have limited the creep spread, you can still go into drops. But I think since TRUE went so queen heavy and Ty so dropheavy, it just became very hard to move out for Ty later on. He always had to stop right outside of his 4th area to clean up creep and would then sit with his army on hold for a minute or so.


So if going mutas is stronger vs drops and stronger vs big pushes, in what way is pure ling-bling better?


Well, playing with mutas is just better than without.
Also in g2, True played with mutas. Just not the 30+ mutalisk stuff or the muta before upgrades, but rather the 15mutas but focus on upgrades, creep, baneling speed etc first.


:D

And yeah, I think I agree. Mutas are so annoying.

Not being prepared vs the style is a strength too I guess.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
WTCO
Profile Joined September 2013
United States646 Posts
August 20 2014 10:14 GMT
#265
On August 20 2014 19:13 stuchiu wrote:
In Kespa Cup, Parting lost to Dear 2.0 aka Zest. Now he faces Dear 1.0. If he loses here, he meets Seed, Dear beta version.


But Zest is still good so he can't be Dear 2.0.
SatedSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
England3012 Posts
August 20 2014 10:15 GMT
#266
--- Nuked ---
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
August 20 2014 10:15 GMT
#267
On August 20 2014 19:12 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 19:08 DJHelium wrote:
On August 20 2014 19:06 Big J wrote:
On August 20 2014 19:03 DJHelium wrote:
On August 20 2014 19:02 Big J wrote:
On August 20 2014 19:00 Schelim wrote:
TRUEly impressive play. TY should've made some marauders though.


I think he should be pushing harder instead of always having half his army in medivacs. If he would push, he would limit the creepspread and then he wouldn't have fight on creep against speed banes all the time later on.


I dunno, shouldn't it be much easier to hold off parade pushes when not going for mutas?


Not really, because then the Terran can always pick up and go home, completely dictating the flow.
And then, once you have limited the creep spread, you can still go into drops. But I think since TRUE went so queen heavy and Ty so dropheavy, it just became very hard to move out for Ty later on. He always had to stop right outside of his 4th area to clean up creep and would then sit with his army on hold for a minute or so.


So if going mutas is stronger vs drops and stronger vs big pushes, in what way is pure ling-bling better?


Well, playing with mutas is just better than without.
Also in g2, True played with mutas. Just not the 30+ mutalisk stuff or the muta before upgrades, but rather the 15mutas but focus on upgrades, creep, baneling speed etc first.

And pure ling/bling is better at beating allinish plays or pushing yourself.

I was struck by how few mutas he lost too. By the first attack against the fourth, he had only lost four mutas, despite using them to shut down drops the whole game. That's remarkably low, his muta micro and general awareness were just outstanding. It let him save so much gas for upgrades and banes rather than replacing mutas. It's like JD in reverse.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
August 20 2014 10:15 GMT
#268
PvP seems a bit unstable again?
WTCO
Profile Joined September 2013
United States646 Posts
August 20 2014 10:15 GMT
#269
Poll: Recommend Dear vs. PartinG Game 1?

★★★- Good game (7)
 
54%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (4)
 
31%

★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
 
8%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
 
8%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

13 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Dear vs. PartinG Game 1?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season

Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
August 20 2014 10:15 GMT
#270
YES DEAR!!!

Great target fire.
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3577 Posts
August 20 2014 10:15 GMT
#271
ah Christ! i come back and it s already 1-0...
Horang2 fan
Motlu
Profile Joined August 2014
Australia884 Posts
August 20 2014 10:15 GMT
#272
Eat that PartinG!!!!! Gogo Dear
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 20 2014 10:15 GMT
#273
On August 20 2014 19:14 WTCO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 19:13 stuchiu wrote:
In Kespa Cup, Parting lost to Dear 2.0 aka Zest. Now he faces Dear 1.0. If he loses here, he meets Seed, Dear beta version.


But Zest is still good so he can't be Dear 2.0.


Dear 2.0 has a longer shelf time!
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 20 2014 10:16 GMT
#274
On August 20 2014 19:15 Ketch wrote:
PvP seems a bit unstable again?


any matchup looks unstable when no one can scout.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
August 20 2014 10:16 GMT
#275
Was grabbing myself some lunch, what happened in G1?
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
August 20 2014 10:16 GMT
#276
is the op not updated at all?
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-20 10:17:55
August 20 2014 10:17 GMT
#277
Thanks for the thread WTCO! Could you make it so the polls have fixed positions for the different alternatives?

And Yello, was it you I faced on ladder yesterday!?
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Motlu
Profile Joined August 2014
Australia884 Posts
August 20 2014 10:17 GMT
#278
Round 2!

Lets see what other strats this movie has to offer
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
August 20 2014 10:17 GMT
#279
Op hasnt been updated D:
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17750 Posts
August 20 2014 10:17 GMT
#280
On August 20 2014 19:16 BlackCompany wrote:
Was grabbing myself some lunch, what happened in G1?

Dear made his stargate first, won with phoenix stalker
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