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cheekymonkey
Profile Joined January 2014
France1387 Posts
June 28 2014 16:15 GMT
#1601
soo retires?
Estancia
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)335 Posts
June 28 2014 16:16 GMT
#1602
What would happen if we have soO/Jaedong/Yellow in the finals together? (either two out of three)
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
June 28 2014 16:25 GMT
#1603
On June 29 2014 01:12 agsub wrote:


I am no soO fan but man this sucks for him


I don't understand.
maru lover forever
Xinzoe
Profile Joined January 2014
Korea (South)2373 Posts
June 28 2014 16:53 GMT
#1604
On June 29 2014 01:25 Incognoto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2014 01:12 agsub wrote:
https://twitter.com/SKTelecomT1soO/status/482817470386798592

I am no soO fan but man this sucks for him


I don't understand.


usually means retiring
KingofGods
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1218 Posts
June 28 2014 16:56 GMT
#1605
On June 29 2014 00:35 Rollora wrote:
btw is GSL not a major tournament anymore?
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Major_Tournaments

Edit: sorry my bad, there is a category above major: Premier...
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Premier_Tournaments


So besides Taeja, the last terran to win a premier tournament was Polt in September of 2013. And terran only have one major tournament win by Masa in February, a measly online tournament with 5k prize pool, since November of 2013. Nice.
Jmanthedragonguy
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada1202 Posts
June 28 2014 17:01 GMT
#1606
Congradz on the win Classic !
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
June 28 2014 17:14 GMT
#1607
Calling it now: soO gets another silver next season.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
June 28 2014 17:15 GMT
#1608
On June 29 2014 01:56 KingofGods wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2014 00:35 Rollora wrote:
btw is GSL not a major tournament anymore?
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Major_Tournaments

Edit: sorry my bad, there is a category above major: Premier...
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Premier_Tournaments


So besides Taeja, the last terran to win a premier tournament was Polt in September of 2013. And terran only have one major tournament win by Masa in February, a measly online tournament with 5k prize pool, since November of 2013. Nice.


When you say "besides Taeja" you mean the 2 most recent non-GSL major tournaments?

Not that I disagree with your general sentiment, but it's a pretty big thing to sweep HSC and Dreamhack under the rug like you did.
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
June 28 2014 17:42 GMT
#1609
On June 29 2014 02:15 Thieving Magpie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2014 01:56 KingofGods wrote:
On June 29 2014 00:35 Rollora wrote:
btw is GSL not a major tournament anymore?
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Major_Tournaments

Edit: sorry my bad, there is a category above major: Premier...
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Premier_Tournaments


So besides Taeja, the last terran to win a premier tournament was Polt in September of 2013. And terran only have one major tournament win by Masa in February, a measly online tournament with 5k prize pool, since November of 2013. Nice.


When you say "besides Taeja" you mean the 2 most recent non-GSL major tournaments?

Not that I disagree with your general sentiment, but it's a pretty big thing to sweep HSC and Dreamhack under the rug like you did.


Well when there is one player who is performing really well the logical conclusion is that that player is performing really well, when you have multiple players of the same race (Zest, trap, Classic, sOs, HerO, San, herO, MC) all winning tournaments in the same period of time that's much more of a trend than one player.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Fran_
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-28 18:24:22
June 28 2014 18:23 GMT
#1610
This recent race bias towards P in big tournaments is hard to go unnoticed, but it must be said that Classic played practically perfect games against Maru and Maru was way off that day. Congrats to him for the win. I do hope Soo doesn't retire, he must feel crushed now and he will surely rethink it tomorrow with a cooler head.
Josh_Video
Profile Joined August 2013
Canada798 Posts
June 28 2014 19:37 GMT
#1611
Fun fact; The last Terran GSL Champion was Mvp. In 2012 Season 2. That's over two years ago.
MKP :D ~ MMA ~ Scarlett ~ Taeja ~ Mvp ~ InnoVation ~ Polt | Prime ( RIP :( ) ~ Acer ~ SK Telecom T1 | I enjoyed the locust war of May 3, 2014.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-28 19:45:09
June 28 2014 19:42 GMT
#1612
No one was crying when Protoss never ever won a GSL for so long (it's been 8 consecutive GSL without a Terran victory when 7 GSLs separated MC's second title from Seed's victory). Terran is in a drought, clearly, but I'm pretty sure Terran are going to perform pretty well in the upcoming season.

Oh, and by the way, it's nobody's fault if INnoVatioN choked hard enough not to materialize Terran's last period of "dominance" (I don't like to talk about imbalance). Add to this that INnoVatioN, Bomber won the global seasons and that Maru took the OSL that played GSL role, and we have to tone down this judgement.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
June 28 2014 19:45 GMT
#1613
to say no one was crying when protoss wasn't winning is just wrong. Every period of sc2 has had crying from whatever race wasn't winning. it's not unique to any group
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aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-28 19:48:35
June 28 2014 19:47 GMT
#1614
On June 29 2014 04:37 Josh_Video wrote:
Fun fact; The last Terran GSL Champion was Mvp. In 2012 Season 2. That's over two years ago.


Let's hope it's another two years before a Terran reaches the final, and then loses. That would be a real fun fact.

I could always do with two years of laughing at the saltiness.
KT best KT ~ 2014
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
June 28 2014 19:49 GMT
#1615
On June 29 2014 04:37 Josh_Video wrote:
Fun fact; The last Terran GSL Champion was Mvp. In 2012 Season 2. That's over two years ago.


Fun fact: Maru won OSL last year
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-28 19:54:33
June 28 2014 19:52 GMT
#1616
On June 29 2014 04:45 Shellshock wrote:
to say no one was crying when protoss wasn't winning is just wrong. Every period of sc2 has had crying from whatever race wasn't winning. it's not unique to any group


True, but I think people tend to have some bias in favor of Terran because the mechanical aspects of the race are more blatant. It's harder to see what makes a good Protoss player, because the differences between a grandmaster and a world class player are subtle, though huge. It's easier to see how good Maru or INnoVatioN are because their good moves are spectacular. Good Protoss moves are often so subtle and decision making based people usually overlook them...

Then again, people will always whine and I guess we'll have to deal with that until the end of times.
Ace Frehley
Profile Joined December 2012
2030 Posts
June 28 2014 19:55 GMT
#1617
On June 29 2014 04:42 [PkF] Wire wrote:
No one was crying when Protoss never ever won a GSL for so long (it's been 8 consecutive GSL without a Terran victory when 7 GSLs separated MC's second title from Seed's victory).


LOL
Even TL writers were writing balance whine articles back then
...
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
June 28 2014 19:57 GMT
#1618
On June 29 2014 04:49 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2014 04:37 Josh_Video wrote:
Fun fact; The last Terran GSL Champion was Mvp. In 2012 Season 2. That's over two years ago.


Fun fact: Maru won OSL last year



Quiet you with your "logic" and "reason".


Sad to see Soo lose. I hope he isn't really retiring and that its just a depressed tweet
aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-28 20:16:02
June 28 2014 20:15 GMT
#1619
Stick with it, SoO!

I feel bad for SoO, but I also feel a little bad for Classic now. His GSL win will always be marred by the fact that it devastated his team mate.

The environment in SKT must be, to say the least, in a weird place at the moment; hope oov sorts it out.
KT best KT ~ 2014
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
June 28 2014 20:45 GMT
#1620
On June 29 2014 02:42 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2014 02:15 Thieving Magpie wrote:
On June 29 2014 01:56 KingofGods wrote:
On June 29 2014 00:35 Rollora wrote:
btw is GSL not a major tournament anymore?
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Major_Tournaments

Edit: sorry my bad, there is a category above major: Premier...
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Premier_Tournaments


So besides Taeja, the last terran to win a premier tournament was Polt in September of 2013. And terran only have one major tournament win by Masa in February, a measly online tournament with 5k prize pool, since November of 2013. Nice.


When you say "besides Taeja" you mean the 2 most recent non-GSL major tournaments?

Not that I disagree with your general sentiment, but it's a pretty big thing to sweep HSC and Dreamhack under the rug like you did.


Well when there is one player who is performing really well the logical conclusion is that that player is performing really well, when you have multiple players of the same race (Zest, trap, Classic, sOs, HerO, San, herO, MC) all winning tournaments in the same period of time that's much more of a trend than one player.


Not disagreeing with the general sentiment, as I said, but just wanted to have some level of honesty by not ignoring that the recent BIG victories had also been by terran. When you oversimplify facts to try to overstate your side of an argument, it just makes you less trustworthy in my eyes.
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
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