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On June 22 2014 09:20 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Poll: Recommend Illusion vs RagnaroK Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 20% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 20% ★★★- Good game (0) 0% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (3) 60% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 5 total votes Your vote: Recommend Illusion vs RagnaroK Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Illusion vs RagnaroK Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 20% ★★★- Good game (3) 60% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 20% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 5 total votes Your vote: Recommend Illusion vs RagnaroK Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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On June 22 2014 09:21 Slakter wrote:
Polt winning would be best for Scarlett, right?
Yes, because Hyun has less game losses than scarlett, even if he wins 2-1. If he wins he's ahead of scarlett
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Poll: Recommend HyuN vs Polt Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (2) 22% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 11% ★★★- Good game (5) 56% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 11% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 9 total votes Your vote: Recommend HyuN vs Polt Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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On June 22 2014 09:22 Bowzar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2014 09:19 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
any viewer count info for the streams? Nope you will have to wait for the mandatory post-tournament update from MLG. it goes something like this "RECORD BREAKING NUMBERS u guise!!!11 trust us bro MLG n1 USAUSAUSADrPepper4lyfe"
apparently there's no dr. pepper
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Polt completely botched that game, probably because the Zerg DIDNT go Muta/Bane 
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On June 22 2014 09:17 Bowzar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2014 09:10 Roachu wrote:On June 22 2014 09:05 Bowzar wrote:On June 22 2014 09:01 Roachu wrote:On June 22 2014 08:53 Foreverkul wrote:On June 22 2014 08:48 Roachu wrote:On June 22 2014 08:37 Bowzar wrote:On June 22 2014 08:27 phil.ipp wrote:
MLG is weird, the open winner bracket has now only high Level games, like bomber vs jaedong or something similar, and the one who wins then has to beat another good korean like leenock.
and the winner of this Plays then for like 4 rounds People like paetreus, Illusion, hendralsik, miniraser ,... only then after 4-5 rounds meet again big Players. They wanted a NA centric tournament and I have been told that this is what the silent majority in the community wants. Im surprised it has taken this long for someone to region lock considering how horrible Korean domination is for the game. I'm pretty sure they want anything but an exclusively Korean top 8. I would love to present stream numbers showing evidence for why Korean dominance is detrimental to popular Starcraft 2 but sadly I don't have any access whatsoever to such figures. I am however absolutely certain a mix between foreigner and Korean player base would yield a much higher viewer base than an exclusively Korean top8. Why do you think having Korean top 8s are bad? Top 8 is supposed to be the best players and if Koreans are the best players, then so be it. I'm not sure what you are basing that Koreans hurt eSports when Koreans are at the foerfront of bringing eSports to the masses :/ I'm saying a varied base of nationality is more compelling to the general masses compared to single nation dominance. Like I said, I'd love to present stream numbers confirming my stance but sadly I don't have access to such numbers. I'm sure you could find convincing arguments for my case by watching every single SOTG/LO3 episode featuring Sundance DiGiovanni but I can't be arsed to do that (as I'm sure you feel the same). I'm saying only the small minority of dedicated people care about "the best players", the majority of people care about something as frivolous as nationality. If not the football world cup wouldn't be the multi-billion dollar sport even it is today. I kinda agree with you but if thats a fact how come tournament organizers dont do more straight up region locked qualifiers? I haven't payed that much attention the past 12 months but I thought tournaments had started to adhere to some really strict region locking? I thought you needed a green card / work visa to participate in respectable WCS regions? Like Polt and Violet have legit athlete visas in order to participate in WCS America. I think there are still like 2 ladder wildcard spots for everyone and once youre in challenger its pretty hard to get knocked out. No major region locking in other tournaments.
Ladder wildcards are fine by me since the ladder is so incredibly volatile. In my mind I think challenger should be a serious shark pit, meaning a loss means you're f****ng out. Like I said I haven't kept up with WCS but don't you get knocked out if you lose your challenger match?
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On June 22 2014 09:22 Bowzar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2014 09:19 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
any viewer count info for the streams? Nope you will have to wait for the mandatory post-tournament update from MLG. it goes something like this "RECORD BREAKING NUMBERS u guise!!!11 trust us bro MLG n1 USAUSAUSADrPepper4lyfe"
Wrong sir, there is no Dr. Pepper.
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Big mistake by Polt to give Hyun the ability to kill the 3rd CC. And he forgot the armory for a long time.
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ohhh, Scarlett vs Hyun sounds like a good ZvZ after he's done with Polt
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On June 22 2014 09:23 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2014 09:22 Bowzar wrote:On June 22 2014 09:19 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
any viewer count info for the streams? Nope you will have to wait for the mandatory post-tournament update from MLG. it goes something like this "RECORD BREAKING NUMBERS u guise!!!11 trust us bro MLG n1 USAUSAUSADrPepper4lyfe" apparently there's no dr. pepper
What does that mean for the Pepper Crew? No more room makeovers?
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Stick a fork in those buns!
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On June 22 2014 09:23 Roachu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2014 09:17 Bowzar wrote:On June 22 2014 09:10 Roachu wrote:On June 22 2014 09:05 Bowzar wrote:On June 22 2014 09:01 Roachu wrote:On June 22 2014 08:53 Foreverkul wrote:On June 22 2014 08:48 Roachu wrote:On June 22 2014 08:37 Bowzar wrote:On June 22 2014 08:27 phil.ipp wrote:
MLG is weird, the open winner bracket has now only high Level games, like bomber vs jaedong or something similar, and the one who wins then has to beat another good korean like leenock.
and the winner of this Plays then for like 4 rounds People like paetreus, Illusion, hendralsik, miniraser ,... only then after 4-5 rounds meet again big Players. They wanted a NA centric tournament and I have been told that this is what the silent majority in the community wants. Im surprised it has taken this long for someone to region lock considering how horrible Korean domination is for the game. I'm pretty sure they want anything but an exclusively Korean top 8. I would love to present stream numbers showing evidence for why Korean dominance is detrimental to popular Starcraft 2 but sadly I don't have any access whatsoever to such figures. I am however absolutely certain a mix between foreigner and Korean player base would yield a much higher viewer base than an exclusively Korean top8. Why do you think having Korean top 8s are bad? Top 8 is supposed to be the best players and if Koreans are the best players, then so be it. I'm not sure what you are basing that Koreans hurt eSports when Koreans are at the foerfront of bringing eSports to the masses :/ I'm saying a varied base of nationality is more compelling to the general masses compared to single nation dominance. Like I said, I'd love to present stream numbers confirming my stance but sadly I don't have access to such numbers. I'm sure you could find convincing arguments for my case by watching every single SOTG/LO3 episode featuring Sundance DiGiovanni but I can't be arsed to do that (as I'm sure you feel the same). I'm saying only the small minority of dedicated people care about "the best players", the majority of people care about something as frivolous as nationality. If not the football world cup wouldn't be the multi-billion dollar sport even it is today. I kinda agree with you but if thats a fact how come tournament organizers dont do more straight up region locked qualifiers? I haven't payed that much attention the past 12 months but I thought tournaments had started to adhere to some really strict region locking? I thought you needed a green card / work visa to participate in respectable WCS regions? Like Polt and Violet have legit athlete visas in order to participate in WCS America. I think there are still like 2 ladder wildcard spots for everyone and once youre in challenger its pretty hard to get knocked out. No major region locking in other tournaments. Ladder wildcards are fine by me since the ladder is so incredibly volatile. In my mind I think challenger should be a serious shark pit, meaning a loss means you're f****ng out. Like I said I haven't kept up with WCS but don't you get knocked out if you lose your challenger match?
You do.
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On June 22 2014 09:25 AlternativeEgo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2014 09:23 Dodgin wrote:On June 22 2014 09:22 Bowzar wrote:On June 22 2014 09:19 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
any viewer count info for the streams? Nope you will have to wait for the mandatory post-tournament update from MLG. it goes something like this "RECORD BREAKING NUMBERS u guise!!!11 trust us bro MLG n1 USAUSAUSADrPepper4lyfe" apparently there's no dr. pepper What does that mean for the Pepper Crew? No more room makeovers?
Dr. Pepper is a subpar soda. Get a better drink sponsor and end up better than before
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On June 22 2014 09:24 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2014 09:22 Bowzar wrote:On June 22 2014 09:19 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
any viewer count info for the streams? Nope you will have to wait for the mandatory post-tournament update from MLG. it goes something like this "RECORD BREAKING NUMBERS u guise!!!11 trust us bro MLG n1 USAUSAUSADrPepper4lyfe" Wrong sir, there is no Dr. Pepper.
Is there still hot pockets? Do they have any food and beverage sponsors. They must at least have nos right...Sucks for the attendees if there isn't any food sponsors.
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So any good games for today? Was off for most of the day and missed LR and MLG.
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Does head-to-head record come before map score when it comes to determinine ties ?
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On June 22 2014 09:26 PhoenixVoid wrote:
So any good games for today? Was off for most of the day and missed LR and MLG.
IdrA vs BoxeR on Dual Sight
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"Polt used to destroy Zerg! But not anymore..."
I wonder if that had something to do with HotS? 
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On June 22 2014 09:24 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2014 09:22 Bowzar wrote:On June 22 2014 09:19 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
any viewer count info for the streams? Nope you will have to wait for the mandatory post-tournament update from MLG. it goes something like this "RECORD BREAKING NUMBERS u guise!!!11 trust us bro MLG n1 USAUSAUSADrPepper4lyfe" Wrong sir, there is no Dr. Pepper.
Is the pretzel company with the scantily clad ladies still around tho? Please tell me they are still around.
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