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pigmanbear
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Angola2010 Posts
June 22 2014 00:08 GMT
#1621
On June 22 2014 09:07 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2014 09:06 pigmanbear wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:05 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:00 pigmanbear wrote:
HOW DO YOU NOT KNOW THE RED DECK REFERENCE


I want to know that one. Teach me.

Red deck in MTG is fire axe and stuff like that, you have to get mana to cast these spells and kill your opponent quickly before they can block your spells. It's been a while but that's roughly how you win with red decks (besides goblin decks)


Ah. I was hoping for something cooler. But thanks.

It is cool! :'(
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
June 22 2014 00:08 GMT
#1622
Oh damn it, I guess I missed an awesome game
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
June 22 2014 00:08 GMT
#1623
So, have they yet to stream any open brackets games thus far?
Kerence
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1817 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-22 00:09:10
June 22 2014 00:09 GMT
#1624
On June 22 2014 09:08 LighT. wrote:
So, have they yet to stream any open brackets games thus far?

No, they're not doing any of that.
I am here in the shadows.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
June 22 2014 00:09 GMT
#1625
On June 22 2014 09:08 LighT. wrote:
So, have they yet to stream any open brackets games thus far?


Haven't seen any
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Roachu
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden692 Posts
June 22 2014 00:10 GMT
#1626
On June 22 2014 09:05 Bowzar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2014 09:01 Roachu wrote:
On June 22 2014 08:53 Foreverkul wrote:
On June 22 2014 08:48 Roachu wrote:
On June 22 2014 08:37 Bowzar wrote:
On June 22 2014 08:27 phil.ipp wrote:
MLG is weird, the open winner bracket has now only high Level games, like bomber vs jaedong or something similar, and the one who wins then has to beat another good korean like leenock.

and the winner of this Plays then for like 4 rounds People like paetreus, Illusion, hendralsik, miniraser ,... only then after 4-5 rounds meet again big Players.

They wanted a NA centric tournament and I have been told that this is what the silent majority in the community wants. Im surprised it has taken this long for someone to region lock considering how horrible Korean domination is for the game.

I'm pretty sure they want anything but an exclusively Korean top 8. I would love to present stream numbers showing evidence for why Korean dominance is detrimental to popular Starcraft 2 but sadly I don't have any access whatsoever to such figures. I am however absolutely certain a mix between foreigner and Korean player base would yield a much higher viewer base than an exclusively Korean top8.

Why do you think having Korean top 8s are bad? Top 8 is supposed to be the best players and if Koreans are the best players, then so be it. I'm not sure what you are basing that Koreans hurt eSports when Koreans are at the foerfront of bringing eSports to the masses :/

I'm saying a varied base of nationality is more compelling to the general masses compared to single nation dominance. Like I said, I'd love to present stream numbers confirming my stance but sadly I don't have access to such numbers. I'm sure you could find convincing arguments for my case by watching every single SOTG/LO3 episode featuring Sundance DiGiovanni but I can't be arsed to do that (as I'm sure you feel the same). I'm saying only the small minority of dedicated people care about "the best players", the majority of people care about something as frivolous as nationality. If not the football world cup wouldn't be the multi-billion dollar sport even it is today.

I kinda agree with you but if thats a fact how come tournament organizers dont do more straight up region locked qualifiers?

I haven't payed that much attention the past 12 months but I thought tournaments had started to adhere to some really strict region locking? I thought you needed a green card / work visa to participate in respectable WCS regions? Like Polt and Violet have legit athlete visas in order to participate in WCS America.
Don't be asshats
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
June 22 2014 00:11 GMT
#1627
On June 22 2014 09:06 pigmanbear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2014 09:05 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:00 pigmanbear wrote:
HOW DO YOU NOT KNOW THE RED DECK REFERENCE


I want to know that one. Teach me.

Red deck in MTG is fire axe and stuff like that, you have to get mana to cast these spells and kill your opponent quickly before they can block your spells. It's been a while but that's roughly how you win with red decks (besides goblin decks)


wtf is fire axe. Do you mean lava axe?
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
June 22 2014 00:11 GMT
#1628
On June 22 2014 09:08 pigmanbear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2014 09:07 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:06 pigmanbear wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:05 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:00 pigmanbear wrote:
HOW DO YOU NOT KNOW THE RED DECK REFERENCE


I want to know that one. Teach me.

Red deck in MTG is fire axe and stuff like that, you have to get mana to cast these spells and kill your opponent quickly before they can block your spells. It's been a while but that's roughly how you win with red decks (besides goblin decks)


Ah. I was hoping for something cooler. But thanks.

It is cool! :'(


I'm sure it is. Please forgive me for my ignorance.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
June 22 2014 00:11 GMT
#1629
On June 22 2014 09:07 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2014 09:06 Zealously wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:01 Foreverkul wrote:
Whats with this Korean hate? Is there some underlying racism in SC2 eSports Im not aware of? o_o


People don't generally appreciate knowing that their favorite players are far outmatched by a hundred players they know much less about


There's also this odd misconception that Koreans lack personalities due to the language barrier -_-


Koreans have personalities?
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Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
June 22 2014 00:11 GMT
#1630
oh shit this will be awesome, hyun vs polt
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Foreverkul
Profile Joined March 2014
United States1649 Posts
June 22 2014 00:12 GMT
#1631
POLT HYPE TRAIN! Choo choo! B)
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
June 22 2014 00:12 GMT
#1632
On June 22 2014 09:11 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2014 09:07 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:06 Zealously wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:01 Foreverkul wrote:
Whats with this Korean hate? Is there some underlying racism in SC2 eSports Im not aware of? o_o


People don't generally appreciate knowing that their favorite players are far outmatched by a hundred players they know much less about


There's also this odd misconception that Koreans lack personalities due to the language barrier -_-


Koreans have personalities?

Just MC and PartinG. They cover for everyone else
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ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
June 22 2014 00:12 GMT
#1633
Oh fuck. Back in time for Hyun vs Polt!
pigmanbear
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Angola2010 Posts
June 22 2014 00:13 GMT
#1634
On June 22 2014 09:11 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2014 09:06 pigmanbear wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:05 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:00 pigmanbear wrote:
HOW DO YOU NOT KNOW THE RED DECK REFERENCE


I want to know that one. Teach me.

Red deck in MTG is fire axe and stuff like that, you have to get mana to cast these spells and kill your opponent quickly before they can block your spells. It's been a while but that's roughly how you win with red decks (besides goblin decks)


wtf is fire axe. Do you mean lava axe?

Yea, that one haha, like I said it's been a while (and I played suicide black decks)
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
June 22 2014 00:13 GMT
#1635
On June 22 2014 09:12 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2014 09:11 Zealously wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:07 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:06 Zealously wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:01 Foreverkul wrote:
Whats with this Korean hate? Is there some underlying racism in SC2 eSports Im not aware of? o_o


People don't generally appreciate knowing that their favorite players are far outmatched by a hundred players they know much less about


There's also this odd misconception that Koreans lack personalities due to the language barrier -_-


Koreans have personalities?

Just MC and PartinG. They cover for everyone else

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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
June 22 2014 00:14 GMT
#1636
Another PoltvZ. So far, these have been awesome
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
June 22 2014 00:15 GMT
#1637
On June 22 2014 09:12 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2014 09:11 Zealously wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:07 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:06 Zealously wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:01 Foreverkul wrote:
Whats with this Korean hate? Is there some underlying racism in SC2 eSports Im not aware of? o_o


People don't generally appreciate knowing that their favorite players are far outmatched by a hundred players they know much less about


There's also this odd misconception that Koreans lack personalities due to the language barrier -_-


Koreans have personalities?

Just MC and PartinG. They cover for everyone else


And the one who won that WCS EU season. He brought me to tears. What a moment.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 22 2014 00:15 GMT
#1638
On June 22 2014 09:15 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2014 09:12 Shellshock wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:11 Zealously wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:07 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:06 Zealously wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:01 Foreverkul wrote:
Whats with this Korean hate? Is there some underlying racism in SC2 eSports Im not aware of? o_o


People don't generally appreciate knowing that their favorite players are far outmatched by a hundred players they know much less about


There's also this odd misconception that Koreans lack personalities due to the language barrier -_-


Koreans have personalities?

Just MC and PartinG. They cover for everyone else


And the one who won that WCS EU season. He brought me to tears. What a moment.

That was MC.
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Foreverkul
Profile Joined March 2014
United States1649 Posts
June 22 2014 00:15 GMT
#1639
On June 22 2014 09:11 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2014 09:07 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:06 Zealously wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:01 Foreverkul wrote:
Whats with this Korean hate? Is there some underlying racism in SC2 eSports Im not aware of? o_o


People don't generally appreciate knowing that their favorite players are far outmatched by a hundred players they know much less about


There's also this odd misconception that Koreans lack personalities due to the language barrier -_-


Koreans have personalities?

All Koreans are robots, thats why they win at eSports
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
June 22 2014 00:15 GMT
#1640
On June 22 2014 09:15 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2014 09:12 Shellshock wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:11 Zealously wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:07 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:06 Zealously wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:01 Foreverkul wrote:
Whats with this Korean hate? Is there some underlying racism in SC2 eSports Im not aware of? o_o


People don't generally appreciate knowing that their favorite players are far outmatched by a hundred players they know much less about


There's also this odd misconception that Koreans lack personalities due to the language barrier -_-


Koreans have personalities?

Just MC and PartinG. They cover for everyone else


And the one who won that WCS EU season. He brought me to tears. What a moment.

grubby is not korean you fool
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