• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 06:20
CEST 12:20
KST 19:20
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors4Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists22
Community News
RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event10Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results12026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers25Maestros of the Game 2 announced92026 GSL Tour plans announced15
StarCraft 2
General
Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists MaNa leaves Team Liquid
Tourneys
2026 GSL Season 2 Qualifiers Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) $1,400 SEL Season 3 Ladder Invitational RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 523 Firewall Mutation # 522 Flip My Base
Brood War
General
Why there arent any 256x256 pro maps? BW General Discussion ASL21 General Discussion [ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro8 Day 3 [ASL21] Ro8 Day 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Daigo vs Menard Best of 10 Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread OutLive 25 (RTS Game) Dawn of War IV Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread 3D technology/software discussion Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Movie Stars In Video Games: …
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1434 users

[MLG] Anaheim 2014 Day 2 - Page 82

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 80 81 82 83 84 177 Next
pigmanbear
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Angola2010 Posts
June 22 2014 00:08 GMT
#1621
On June 22 2014 09:07 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2014 09:06 pigmanbear wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:05 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:00 pigmanbear wrote:
HOW DO YOU NOT KNOW THE RED DECK REFERENCE


I want to know that one. Teach me.

Red deck in MTG is fire axe and stuff like that, you have to get mana to cast these spells and kill your opponent quickly before they can block your spells. It's been a while but that's roughly how you win with red decks (besides goblin decks)


Ah. I was hoping for something cooler. But thanks.

It is cool! :'(
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
June 22 2014 00:08 GMT
#1622
Oh damn it, I guess I missed an awesome game
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
June 22 2014 00:08 GMT
#1623
So, have they yet to stream any open brackets games thus far?
Kerence
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1817 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-22 00:09:10
June 22 2014 00:09 GMT
#1624
On June 22 2014 09:08 LighT. wrote:
So, have they yet to stream any open brackets games thus far?

No, they're not doing any of that.
I am here in the shadows.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
June 22 2014 00:09 GMT
#1625
On June 22 2014 09:08 LighT. wrote:
So, have they yet to stream any open brackets games thus far?


Haven't seen any
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Roachu
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden692 Posts
June 22 2014 00:10 GMT
#1626
On June 22 2014 09:05 Bowzar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2014 09:01 Roachu wrote:
On June 22 2014 08:53 Foreverkul wrote:
On June 22 2014 08:48 Roachu wrote:
On June 22 2014 08:37 Bowzar wrote:
On June 22 2014 08:27 phil.ipp wrote:
MLG is weird, the open winner bracket has now only high Level games, like bomber vs jaedong or something similar, and the one who wins then has to beat another good korean like leenock.

and the winner of this Plays then for like 4 rounds People like paetreus, Illusion, hendralsik, miniraser ,... only then after 4-5 rounds meet again big Players.

They wanted a NA centric tournament and I have been told that this is what the silent majority in the community wants. Im surprised it has taken this long for someone to region lock considering how horrible Korean domination is for the game.

I'm pretty sure they want anything but an exclusively Korean top 8. I would love to present stream numbers showing evidence for why Korean dominance is detrimental to popular Starcraft 2 but sadly I don't have any access whatsoever to such figures. I am however absolutely certain a mix between foreigner and Korean player base would yield a much higher viewer base than an exclusively Korean top8.

Why do you think having Korean top 8s are bad? Top 8 is supposed to be the best players and if Koreans are the best players, then so be it. I'm not sure what you are basing that Koreans hurt eSports when Koreans are at the foerfront of bringing eSports to the masses :/

I'm saying a varied base of nationality is more compelling to the general masses compared to single nation dominance. Like I said, I'd love to present stream numbers confirming my stance but sadly I don't have access to such numbers. I'm sure you could find convincing arguments for my case by watching every single SOTG/LO3 episode featuring Sundance DiGiovanni but I can't be arsed to do that (as I'm sure you feel the same). I'm saying only the small minority of dedicated people care about "the best players", the majority of people care about something as frivolous as nationality. If not the football world cup wouldn't be the multi-billion dollar sport even it is today.

I kinda agree with you but if thats a fact how come tournament organizers dont do more straight up region locked qualifiers?

I haven't payed that much attention the past 12 months but I thought tournaments had started to adhere to some really strict region locking? I thought you needed a green card / work visa to participate in respectable WCS regions? Like Polt and Violet have legit athlete visas in order to participate in WCS America.
Don't be asshats
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
June 22 2014 00:11 GMT
#1627
On June 22 2014 09:06 pigmanbear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2014 09:05 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:00 pigmanbear wrote:
HOW DO YOU NOT KNOW THE RED DECK REFERENCE


I want to know that one. Teach me.

Red deck in MTG is fire axe and stuff like that, you have to get mana to cast these spells and kill your opponent quickly before they can block your spells. It's been a while but that's roughly how you win with red decks (besides goblin decks)


wtf is fire axe. Do you mean lava axe?
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
June 22 2014 00:11 GMT
#1628
On June 22 2014 09:08 pigmanbear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2014 09:07 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:06 pigmanbear wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:05 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:00 pigmanbear wrote:
HOW DO YOU NOT KNOW THE RED DECK REFERENCE


I want to know that one. Teach me.

Red deck in MTG is fire axe and stuff like that, you have to get mana to cast these spells and kill your opponent quickly before they can block your spells. It's been a while but that's roughly how you win with red decks (besides goblin decks)


Ah. I was hoping for something cooler. But thanks.

It is cool! :'(


I'm sure it is. Please forgive me for my ignorance.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
June 22 2014 00:11 GMT
#1629
On June 22 2014 09:07 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2014 09:06 Zealously wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:01 Foreverkul wrote:
Whats with this Korean hate? Is there some underlying racism in SC2 eSports Im not aware of? o_o


People don't generally appreciate knowing that their favorite players are far outmatched by a hundred players they know much less about


There's also this odd misconception that Koreans lack personalities due to the language barrier -_-


Koreans have personalities?
AdministratorBreak the chains
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
June 22 2014 00:11 GMT
#1630
oh shit this will be awesome, hyun vs polt
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Foreverkul
Profile Joined March 2014
United States1649 Posts
June 22 2014 00:12 GMT
#1631
POLT HYPE TRAIN! Choo choo! B)
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 22 2014 00:12 GMT
#1632
On June 22 2014 09:11 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2014 09:07 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:06 Zealously wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:01 Foreverkul wrote:
Whats with this Korean hate? Is there some underlying racism in SC2 eSports Im not aware of? o_o


People don't generally appreciate knowing that their favorite players are far outmatched by a hundred players they know much less about


There's also this odd misconception that Koreans lack personalities due to the language barrier -_-


Koreans have personalities?

Just MC and PartinG. They cover for everyone else
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
June 22 2014 00:12 GMT
#1633
Oh fuck. Back in time for Hyun vs Polt!
pigmanbear
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Angola2010 Posts
June 22 2014 00:13 GMT
#1634
On June 22 2014 09:11 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2014 09:06 pigmanbear wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:05 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:00 pigmanbear wrote:
HOW DO YOU NOT KNOW THE RED DECK REFERENCE


I want to know that one. Teach me.

Red deck in MTG is fire axe and stuff like that, you have to get mana to cast these spells and kill your opponent quickly before they can block your spells. It's been a while but that's roughly how you win with red decks (besides goblin decks)


wtf is fire axe. Do you mean lava axe?

Yea, that one haha, like I said it's been a while (and I played suicide black decks)
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
June 22 2014 00:13 GMT
#1635
On June 22 2014 09:12 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2014 09:11 Zealously wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:07 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:06 Zealously wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:01 Foreverkul wrote:
Whats with this Korean hate? Is there some underlying racism in SC2 eSports Im not aware of? o_o


People don't generally appreciate knowing that their favorite players are far outmatched by a hundred players they know much less about


There's also this odd misconception that Koreans lack personalities due to the language barrier -_-


Koreans have personalities?

Just MC and PartinG. They cover for everyone else

[image loading]
TL+ Member
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
June 22 2014 00:14 GMT
#1636
Another PoltvZ. So far, these have been awesome
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
June 22 2014 00:15 GMT
#1637
On June 22 2014 09:12 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2014 09:11 Zealously wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:07 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:06 Zealously wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:01 Foreverkul wrote:
Whats with this Korean hate? Is there some underlying racism in SC2 eSports Im not aware of? o_o


People don't generally appreciate knowing that their favorite players are far outmatched by a hundred players they know much less about


There's also this odd misconception that Koreans lack personalities due to the language barrier -_-


Koreans have personalities?

Just MC and PartinG. They cover for everyone else


And the one who won that WCS EU season. He brought me to tears. What a moment.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 22 2014 00:15 GMT
#1638
On June 22 2014 09:15 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2014 09:12 Shellshock wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:11 Zealously wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:07 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:06 Zealously wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:01 Foreverkul wrote:
Whats with this Korean hate? Is there some underlying racism in SC2 eSports Im not aware of? o_o


People don't generally appreciate knowing that their favorite players are far outmatched by a hundred players they know much less about


There's also this odd misconception that Koreans lack personalities due to the language barrier -_-


Koreans have personalities?

Just MC and PartinG. They cover for everyone else


And the one who won that WCS EU season. He brought me to tears. What a moment.

That was MC.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Foreverkul
Profile Joined March 2014
United States1649 Posts
June 22 2014 00:15 GMT
#1639
On June 22 2014 09:11 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2014 09:07 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:06 Zealously wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:01 Foreverkul wrote:
Whats with this Korean hate? Is there some underlying racism in SC2 eSports Im not aware of? o_o


People don't generally appreciate knowing that their favorite players are far outmatched by a hundred players they know much less about


There's also this odd misconception that Koreans lack personalities due to the language barrier -_-


Koreans have personalities?

All Koreans are robots, thats why they win at eSports
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
June 22 2014 00:15 GMT
#1640
On June 22 2014 09:15 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2014 09:12 Shellshock wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:11 Zealously wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:07 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:06 Zealously wrote:
On June 22 2014 09:01 Foreverkul wrote:
Whats with this Korean hate? Is there some underlying racism in SC2 eSports Im not aware of? o_o


People don't generally appreciate knowing that their favorite players are far outmatched by a hundred players they know much less about


There's also this odd misconception that Koreans lack personalities due to the language barrier -_-


Koreans have personalities?

Just MC and PartinG. They cover for everyone else


And the one who won that WCS EU season. He brought me to tears. What a moment.

grubby is not korean you fool
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Prev 1 80 81 82 83 84 177 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Afreeca Starleague
10:00
Ro8 Match 3
Jaedong vs Light
Afreeca ASL 14079
StarCastTV_EN441
Liquipedia
Replay Cast
09:00
WardiTV Mondays #80
CranKy Ducklings127
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko92
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 11691
Bisu 6364
Sea 3016
BeSt 1053
Soulkey 736
EffOrt 525
Pusan 363
Zeus 279
Larva 276
Killer 183
[ Show more ]
hero 148
PianO 82
ToSsGirL 80
Soma 71
Backho 54
Sharp 47
Hyun 42
Hm[arnc] 39
Barracks 28
Sacsri 23
Sexy 18
soO 18
Terrorterran 16
GoRush 15
JulyZerg 15
Noble 4
Dota 2
monkeys_forever205
NeuroSwarm109
XcaliburYe84
ODPixel78
canceldota23
League of Legends
JimRising 431
Counter-Strike
x6flipin0
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox1036
Other Games
singsing1035
ceh9671
Livibee7
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 192
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream50
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 42
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP36
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV195
League of Legends
• TFBlade607
Upcoming Events
Wardi Open
40m
Monday Night Weeklies
5h 40m
Replay Cast
13h 40m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
23h 40m
Afreeca Starleague
23h 40m
Snow vs Flash
WardiTV Invitational
1d
SHIN vs Nicoract
Solar vs Nice
GSL
1d 23h
Classic vs Cure
Maru vs Rogue
GSL
2 days
SHIN vs Zoun
ByuN vs herO
OSC
3 days
OSC
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Escore
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
Zoun vs Ryung
Lambo vs ShoWTimE
Replay Cast
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
SHIN vs Bunny
ByuN vs Shameless
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
Krystianer vs TriGGeR
Cure vs Rogue
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
BSL
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Cure vs Zoun
Clem vs Lambo
WardiTV Invitational
6 days
BSL
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-05-02
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026

Upcoming

YSL S3
Escore Tournament S2: W6
KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
Escore Tournament S2: W7
Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.