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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
June 18 2014 12:47 GMT
#781
Wooooooooooo go Classic!
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-18 13:07:10
June 18 2014 12:57 GMT
#782
On June 18 2014 20:38 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 20:34 TheOne26 wrote:
Here is the big question: If classic stuck with terran, would he be in the finals of a GSL right now?

Probably not. If Maru hasn't picked Terran, would he have been a good player?

Probably.
Edit: Not sure about a GSL-winning one, obviously.
Stress
Profile Joined February 2011
United States980 Posts
June 18 2014 12:59 GMT
#783
Only caught the last two games but from what I watched the better player won. I wished our Terran hope would have advanced but Classic just looked on a whole other level.
"Touch my gosu hands." - Tastosis | | fOrGG // MC // Jaedong
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
June 18 2014 13:02 GMT
#784
Ughghghhhhh Maru, cmon son.
On August 15 2013 03:43 Waxangel wrote: no amount of money can replace the enjoyment of being mean to people on the internet
triforks
Profile Joined November 2010
United States370 Posts
June 18 2014 13:05 GMT
#785
so now we just need a TaeJa vs Classic showmatch to determine everything right?
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 18 2014 13:11 GMT
#786
On June 18 2014 20:56 SatedSC2 wrote:

Aligulac on the case!

:D


So was KingKong. Next question.
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ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
June 18 2014 13:13 GMT
#787
The better question is, if Classic was on a team other than SKT would he still be in the finals?
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 18 2014 13:15 GMT
#788
Much more importantly than that, Classic has joined Rain's shit list for disproving Terran is BL/infestors though.
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Stress
Profile Joined February 2011
United States980 Posts
June 18 2014 13:17 GMT
#789
On June 18 2014 22:15 stuchiu wrote:
Much more importantly than that, Classic has joined Rain's shit list for disproving Terran is BL/infestors though.


Everyone knew Rain was talking out of his ass.
"Touch my gosu hands." - Tastosis | | fOrGG // MC // Jaedong
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
June 18 2014 13:22 GMT
#790
On June 18 2014 22:11 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 20:56 SatedSC2 wrote:
https://twitter.com/Sc2Aligulac/status/479224961408991232
Aligulac on the case!

:D


So was KingKong. Next question.

lol. Its funny that he is often the highest ranked zerg by beating almost exclusively Australian zergs. He actually makes top 5 zerg historically.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
TR
Profile Joined February 2011
2320 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-18 13:30:23
June 18 2014 13:27 GMT
#791
God damnit Maru.. TT
Oh well Classic in the finals is pretty cool too. Cheering for Classic now I guess!
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-18 13:38:36
June 18 2014 13:36 GMT
#792
I feel so dumb. I said before match several times that Classic will win. Still I made bet (after reading TL Preview) that Maru wins. Even after making that bet I said Classic will win. I feel so fucking dumb right now.

Thank you TL team again predicting wrong. I should have trusted myself after predicting B C D ro16 WCS EU groups right.
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
SatedSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
England3012 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-18 13:43:01
June 18 2014 13:40 GMT
#793
--- Nuked ---
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
June 18 2014 13:41 GMT
#794
On June 18 2014 22:36 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I feel so dumb. I said before match several times that Classic will win. Still I made bet (after reading TL Preview) that Maru wins. Even after making that bet I said Classic will win. I feel so fucking dumb right now.

Thank you TL team again predicting wrong. I should have trusted myself after predicting B C D ro16 WCS EU groups right.


But did you predict Innovation < Naniwa?
AdministratorBreak the chains
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 18 2014 13:49 GMT
#795
On June 18 2014 22:40 SatedSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 22:11 stuchiu wrote:
On June 18 2014 20:56 SatedSC2 wrote:
https://twitter.com/Sc2Aligulac/status/479224961408991232
Aligulac on the case!

:D


So was KingKong. Next question.

Classic and Maru are comparable given that their ratings are primarily based on ProLeague and WCS KR results. KingKong clearly doesn't fit in with that. I hope you're being facetious...


I thought you were being facetious too o_o. Somehow I don't think Classic being statistically favored was the reason why people were upset.
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VmY
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands1286 Posts
June 18 2014 13:51 GMT
#796
I really like Classic

but no more Maruuuu/Terrrraaaannn ;;
Why can't I quit you, siege tank? FanTaSy, Mvp.
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
June 18 2014 13:54 GMT
#797
On June 18 2014 22:41 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 22:36 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I feel so dumb. I said before match several times that Classic will win. Still I made bet (after reading TL Preview) that Maru wins. Even after making that bet I said Classic will win. I feel so fucking dumb right now.

Thank you TL team again predicting wrong. I should have trusted myself after predicting B C D ro16 WCS EU groups right.


But did you predict Innovation < Naniwa?

No, becoz I don't even remember match like that.
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
June 18 2014 14:01 GMT
#798
T_T
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10167 Posts
June 18 2014 14:08 GMT
#799
On June 18 2014 20:56 SatedSC2 wrote:
https://twitter.com/Sc2Aligulac/status/479224961408991232
Aligulac on the case!

:D

Statiscally every zerg was favored against terran on 2012. And i am not saying the game is unbalanced, just pointing out the stupidity in that tweet.
Stress
Profile Joined February 2011
United States980 Posts
June 18 2014 14:23 GMT
#800
On June 18 2014 22:49 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 22:40 SatedSC2 wrote:
On June 18 2014 22:11 stuchiu wrote:
On June 18 2014 20:56 SatedSC2 wrote:
https://twitter.com/Sc2Aligulac/status/479224961408991232
Aligulac on the case!

:D


So was KingKong. Next question.

Classic and Maru are comparable given that their ratings are primarily based on ProLeague and WCS KR results. KingKong clearly doesn't fit in with that. I hope you're being facetious...


I thought you were being facetious too o_o. Somehow I don't think Classic being statistically favored was the reason why people were upset.


Honestly, do you guys think Aligulacs rankings/predictor is a good indicator of who will win? Aligulac is extremely useful for viewing the recent match history of players but SC2 is so volatile and depending on the match-up and a few other factors (slumps or who the opponents are) I don't believe it to be a good indicator of who will win.

For example, Forgg is ranked #5 and is the highest ranked TvT player. But if you look at his match history since April, against Terran he is 4-4 against MMA, 3-4 against Happy, and has lost to both Innovation and Jjakji. If you use the predictor he is favored against Flash in a BO3 73% to 27% and in a BO5 78% to 22%. Would people honestly believe that Forgg would beat Flash in a BOX series? After seeing Flashs TvT against Bbyong in Shoutcraft I would imagine the odds are against Forgg even though Forgg is ranked #5 overall and Flash is ranked #30 overall.

I understand this is one match-up and only one player but I'm using it to argue my case on why Aligulac isn't the best indicator of who should be favored or not favored. In no way am I bashing Aligulac, it is a very well put together site that contains extremely useful information.
"Touch my gosu hands." - Tastosis | | fOrGG // MC // Jaedong
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