• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 12:05
CEST 18:05
KST 01:05
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly4Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard"2ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live!24Weekly Cups (July 13-19): Terran & Protoss rise; Zerg falters2Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)90
StarCraft 2
General
Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) How would you feel about frequent/monthly balance patches for SC2? Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard" Weekly Cups (July 13-19): Terran & Protoss rise; Zerg falters
Tourneys
IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly INu's Battles#18 - Cure, herO, Rogue & ByuN RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) WardiTV Summer Cup 2026
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Industrial Park New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate
External Content
Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation Mutation # 533 Die Together
Brood War
General
ASL22 General Discussion BW General Discussion How Famous was FlaSh before his Debut? Animated Gateway BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
Escore Tournament - Season 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend!
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers PvT advise for noobs Fighting Spirit mining rates Creating a full chart of Zerg builds
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Diablo IV
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread How to buy a book - shipping from Korea to Europe The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How Games can Help with Majo…
TrAiDoS
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 3038 users

[Code S] Ro4 Day 1 Season 2 2014 - Page 40

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 38 39 40 41 42 43 Next All
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
June 18 2014 12:47 GMT
#781
Wooooooooooo go Classic!
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-18 13:07:10
June 18 2014 12:57 GMT
#782
On June 18 2014 20:38 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 20:34 TheOne26 wrote:
Here is the big question: If classic stuck with terran, would he be in the finals of a GSL right now?

Probably not. If Maru hasn't picked Terran, would he have been a good player?

Probably.
Edit: Not sure about a GSL-winning one, obviously.
Stress
Profile Joined February 2011
United States980 Posts
June 18 2014 12:59 GMT
#783
Only caught the last two games but from what I watched the better player won. I wished our Terran hope would have advanced but Classic just looked on a whole other level.
"Touch my gosu hands." - Tastosis | | fOrGG // MC // Jaedong
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
June 18 2014 13:02 GMT
#784
Ughghghhhhh Maru, cmon son.
On August 15 2013 03:43 Waxangel wrote: no amount of money can replace the enjoyment of being mean to people on the internet
triforks
Profile Joined November 2010
United States370 Posts
June 18 2014 13:05 GMT
#785
so now we just need a TaeJa vs Classic showmatch to determine everything right?
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 18 2014 13:11 GMT
#786
On June 18 2014 20:56 SatedSC2 wrote:

Aligulac on the case!

:D


So was KingKong. Next question.
Moderator
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
June 18 2014 13:13 GMT
#787
The better question is, if Classic was on a team other than SKT would he still be in the finals?
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 18 2014 13:15 GMT
#788
Much more importantly than that, Classic has joined Rain's shit list for disproving Terran is BL/infestors though.
Moderator
Stress
Profile Joined February 2011
United States980 Posts
June 18 2014 13:17 GMT
#789
On June 18 2014 22:15 stuchiu wrote:
Much more importantly than that, Classic has joined Rain's shit list for disproving Terran is BL/infestors though.


Everyone knew Rain was talking out of his ass.
"Touch my gosu hands." - Tastosis | | fOrGG // MC // Jaedong
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
June 18 2014 13:22 GMT
#790
On June 18 2014 22:11 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 20:56 SatedSC2 wrote:
https://twitter.com/Sc2Aligulac/status/479224961408991232
Aligulac on the case!

:D


So was KingKong. Next question.

lol. Its funny that he is often the highest ranked zerg by beating almost exclusively Australian zergs. He actually makes top 5 zerg historically.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
TR
Profile Joined February 2011
2320 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-18 13:30:23
June 18 2014 13:27 GMT
#791
God damnit Maru.. TT
Oh well Classic in the finals is pretty cool too. Cheering for Classic now I guess!
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-18 13:38:36
June 18 2014 13:36 GMT
#792
I feel so dumb. I said before match several times that Classic will win. Still I made bet (after reading TL Preview) that Maru wins. Even after making that bet I said Classic will win. I feel so fucking dumb right now.

Thank you TL team again predicting wrong. I should have trusted myself after predicting B C D ro16 WCS EU groups right.
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
SatedSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
England3012 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-18 13:43:01
June 18 2014 13:40 GMT
#793
--- Nuked ---
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
June 18 2014 13:41 GMT
#794
On June 18 2014 22:36 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I feel so dumb. I said before match several times that Classic will win. Still I made bet (after reading TL Preview) that Maru wins. Even after making that bet I said Classic will win. I feel so fucking dumb right now.

Thank you TL team again predicting wrong. I should have trusted myself after predicting B C D ro16 WCS EU groups right.


But did you predict Innovation < Naniwa?
AdministratorBreak the chains
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 18 2014 13:49 GMT
#795
On June 18 2014 22:40 SatedSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 22:11 stuchiu wrote:
On June 18 2014 20:56 SatedSC2 wrote:
https://twitter.com/Sc2Aligulac/status/479224961408991232
Aligulac on the case!

:D


So was KingKong. Next question.

Classic and Maru are comparable given that their ratings are primarily based on ProLeague and WCS KR results. KingKong clearly doesn't fit in with that. I hope you're being facetious...


I thought you were being facetious too o_o. Somehow I don't think Classic being statistically favored was the reason why people were upset.
Moderator
VmY
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands1286 Posts
June 18 2014 13:51 GMT
#796
I really like Classic

but no more Maruuuu/Terrrraaaannn ;;
Why can't I quit you, siege tank? FanTaSy, Mvp.
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
June 18 2014 13:54 GMT
#797
On June 18 2014 22:41 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 22:36 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I feel so dumb. I said before match several times that Classic will win. Still I made bet (after reading TL Preview) that Maru wins. Even after making that bet I said Classic will win. I feel so fucking dumb right now.

Thank you TL team again predicting wrong. I should have trusted myself after predicting B C D ro16 WCS EU groups right.


But did you predict Innovation < Naniwa?

No, becoz I don't even remember match like that.
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
June 18 2014 14:01 GMT
#798
T_T
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10155 Posts
June 18 2014 14:08 GMT
#799
On June 18 2014 20:56 SatedSC2 wrote:
https://twitter.com/Sc2Aligulac/status/479224961408991232
Aligulac on the case!

:D

Statiscally every zerg was favored against terran on 2012. And i am not saying the game is unbalanced, just pointing out the stupidity in that tweet.
Stress
Profile Joined February 2011
United States980 Posts
June 18 2014 14:23 GMT
#800
On June 18 2014 22:49 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 22:40 SatedSC2 wrote:
On June 18 2014 22:11 stuchiu wrote:
On June 18 2014 20:56 SatedSC2 wrote:
https://twitter.com/Sc2Aligulac/status/479224961408991232
Aligulac on the case!

:D


So was KingKong. Next question.

Classic and Maru are comparable given that their ratings are primarily based on ProLeague and WCS KR results. KingKong clearly doesn't fit in with that. I hope you're being facetious...


I thought you were being facetious too o_o. Somehow I don't think Classic being statistically favored was the reason why people were upset.


Honestly, do you guys think Aligulacs rankings/predictor is a good indicator of who will win? Aligulac is extremely useful for viewing the recent match history of players but SC2 is so volatile and depending on the match-up and a few other factors (slumps or who the opponents are) I don't believe it to be a good indicator of who will win.

For example, Forgg is ranked #5 and is the highest ranked TvT player. But if you look at his match history since April, against Terran he is 4-4 against MMA, 3-4 against Happy, and has lost to both Innovation and Jjakji. If you use the predictor he is favored against Flash in a BO3 73% to 27% and in a BO5 78% to 22%. Would people honestly believe that Forgg would beat Flash in a BOX series? After seeing Flashs TvT against Bbyong in Shoutcraft I would imagine the odds are against Forgg even though Forgg is ranked #5 overall and Flash is ranked #30 overall.

I understand this is one match-up and only one player but I'm using it to argue my case on why Aligulac isn't the best indicator of who should be favored or not favored. In no way am I bashing Aligulac, it is a very well put together site that contains extremely useful information.
"Touch my gosu hands." - Tastosis | | fOrGG // MC // Jaedong
Prev 1 38 39 40 41 42 43 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Big Brain Bouts
16:00
#123
Soulspirit vs goblin
TriGGeR vs Bunny
RotterdaM194
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ByuN 595
RotterdaM 194
ProTech88
RushiSC 35
MindelVK 9
StarCraft: Brood War
Horang2 1078
EffOrt 1014
firebathero 376
Snow 274
actioN 262
ggaemo 237
hero 203
Free 85
Sharp 81
Hyun 62
[ Show more ]
Sexy 61
Mind 57
JYJ 49
Bale 42
soO 41
Hm[arnc] 35
Barracks 29
Aegong 24
scan(afreeca) 22
Rock 20
NaDa 16
IntoTheRainbow 13
Yoon 13
NotJumperer 12
Shine 12
zelot 11
ajuk12(nOOB) 5
Dewaltoss 0
Dota 2
qojqva1938
syndereN1016
XcaliburYe92
Counter-Strike
fl0m4523
edward52
Other Games
singsing1897
hiko838
Mlord462
crisheroes302
Hui .213
C9.Mang0195
Liquid`VortiX193
TKL 137
XaKoH 113
CosmosSc2 91
QueenE65
ArmadaUGS51
KnowMe51
Trikslyr44
Rex35
fpsfer 1
Organizations
StarCraft 2
TaKeTV 137
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 50
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV466
League of Legends
• Jankos1891
• Nemesis1577
Upcoming Events
OSC
5h 55m
Korean StarCraft League
10h 55m
Afreeca Starleague
11h 55m
RSL Revival
16h 55m
Serral vs SHIN
herO vs Solar
Online Event
22h 55m
Replay Cast
1d 7h
RSL Revival
1d 16h
Clem vs ByuN
Rogue vs Lambo
OSC
1d 19h
WardiTV Weekly
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
INu's Battles
3 days
Cure vs herO
ByuN vs Rogue
PiGosaur Cup
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
Patches Events
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
CrankTV Team League
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
CrankTV Team League
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-07-22
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E3

Ongoing

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
Escore Tournament S3: W4
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026

Upcoming

ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 2
Escore Tournament S3: W5
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #2
CSLAN 4
ASL Season 22
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.