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Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 19 2014 01:18 GMT
#841
On June 19 2014 01:41 Baroninthetree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 00:04 Xinzoe wrote:
if protoss wins 3 GSLs in a row then the only person to blame is soo

protoss come and go. Soo stays.


The kong stay the kong.
dyDrawer
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada438 Posts
June 19 2014 02:23 GMT
#842
Why do Protosses use the Oracle into Phoenix Colossus build so often? I agree it's a viable strat (somewhat), but personally I don't see any advantage it has over conventional Colossus builds or even Templar builds.

And that Alterzim game Maru got countered so bad. He didn't scout him in the first position + Classic wasn't greedy as Maru had hoped... Also the Hellion drops didn't accomplish anything either.
Dear, Rain, PartinG, Trap - "Glory to the Firstborn"
Veroleg
Profile Joined May 2013
Austria76 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-19 08:52:34
June 19 2014 08:49 GMT
#843
On June 19 2014 00:13 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 23:23 Stress wrote:
On June 18 2014 22:49 stuchiu wrote:
On June 18 2014 22:40 SatedSC2 wrote:
On June 18 2014 22:11 stuchiu wrote:
On June 18 2014 20:56 SatedSC2 wrote:

Aligulac on the case!

:D


So was KingKong. Next question.

Classic and Maru are comparable given that their ratings are primarily based on ProLeague and WCS KR results. KingKong clearly doesn't fit in with that. I hope you're being facetious...


I thought you were being facetious too o_o. Somehow I don't think Classic being statistically favored was the reason why people were upset.


Honestly, do you guys think Aligulacs rankings/predictor is a good indicator of who will win? Aligulac is extremely useful for viewing the recent match history of players but SC2 is so volatile and depending on the match-up and a few other factors (slumps or who the opponents are) I don't believe it to be a good indicator of who will win.

For example, Forgg is ranked #5 and is the highest ranked TvT player. But if you look at his match history since April, against Terran he is 4-4 against MMA, 3-4 against Happy, and has lost to both Innovation and Jjakji. If you use the predictor he is favored against Flash in a BO3 73% to 27% and in a BO5 78% to 22%. Would people honestly believe that Forgg would beat Flash in a BOX series? After seeing Flashs TvT against Bbyong in Shoutcraft I would imagine the odds are against Forgg even though Forgg is ranked #5 overall and Flash is ranked #30 overall.

I understand this is one match-up and only one player but I'm using it to argue my case on why Aligulac isn't the best indicator of who should be favored or not favored. In no way am I bashing Aligulac, it is a very well put together site that contains extremely useful information.


Aligulac gets predictions right more often than not. Not near 100% accuracy, naturally, but I think it's a better predictor than most would-be experts on TL and Reddit.

100% what? if i say someone is 80% how can i be 100% accurate? i didnt say anything

On June 19 2014 01:03 johnbongham wrote:
Wow its real hard to predict that a protoss will win a PvT bo7 in a code s semifinal. Thank god we got aligulac to tell us that LOL. Talk about stating the obvious and then trying to take credit for it.

lol, whats tyhe balance like? is it even bad at all? also hope you enjoyed the 2.3 time sthe money on pinnacle for a what you seem to claim was almost a lock.
if you truly had this much edge over everyone you would have infinite money by now
Kitaen
Profile Joined June 2011
Austria466 Posts
June 19 2014 12:31 GMT
#844
On June 19 2014 11:23 dyDrawer wrote:
Why do Protosses use the Oracle into Phoenix Colossus build so often? I agree it's a viable strat (somewhat), but personally I don't see any advantage it has over conventional Colossus builds or even Templar builds.

And that Alterzim game Maru got countered so bad. He didn't scout him in the first position + Classic wasn't greedy as Maru had hoped... Also the Hellion drops didn't accomplish anything either.


huge map, they counter drop pretty well (combined with observers). phoenix are very fast, can pick of stray units, scouts and do some average harass aswell

they trade cost effective with vikings and will murder a large portion of your army when you do not engage and try to run (as seen) - actually it happens quite often for a terran to reposition and regroup/move around - chances you get a few units are high.

long story short: the bigger the map, the better phoenix become



Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
June 19 2014 16:16 GMT
#845
On June 19 2014 05:19 Zashi wrote:
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On June 19 2014 01:15 Ctesias wrote:
I like Classic, but he really wasn't supposed to win this. This season of Code S lost most of its appeal with Maru out.


"supposed to win"? No, the only one who's supposed to win is the one who advances, through a combination of skill, mindgames, and a bit of luck.

"Supposed to win" as in I would prefer Maru to have won, as it would have made for a better storyline. Of course Classic deserved the win, as he played better than Maru.
Flash | Mvp
imrusty269
Profile Joined January 2014
United States1404 Posts
June 19 2014 16:58 GMT
#846
On June 20 2014 01:16 Ctesias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 05:19 Zashi wrote:
On June 19 2014 01:15 Ctesias wrote:
I like Classic, but he really wasn't supposed to win this. This season of Code S lost most of its appeal with Maru out.


"supposed to win"? No, the only one who's supposed to win is the one who advances, through a combination of skill, mindgames, and a bit of luck.

"Supposed to win" as in I would prefer Maru to have won, as it would have made for a better storyline. Of course Classic deserved the win, as he played better than Maru.


You don't think code B terran -> GSL champion protoss is a good storyline?
Bbyong | MMA | Polt | Dream | Maru | Mvp
orvinreyes
Profile Joined June 2007
577 Posts
June 20 2014 07:50 GMT
#847
no day 2 thread yet?
http://youtu.be/LfmrHTdXgK4
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 20 2014 08:05 GMT
#848
On June 20 2014 16:50 orvinreyes wrote:
no day 2 thread yet?


My passion is dead
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 20 2014 09:02 GMT
#849
On June 20 2014 17:05 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 16:50 orvinreyes wrote:
no day 2 thread yet?


My passion is dead

NA passion > EU passion
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-20 09:07:32
June 20 2014 09:07 GMT
#850
Posting error.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17678 Posts
June 20 2014 09:10 GMT
#851
WCS Predictor says

Starts in
+ Show Spoiler [soO, TRUE in GSL S2 Code S] +
GSL S2 Code S
kr soO has the #2 headband!
This is a match for the #2 headband!
- kr soO is at ~ 70.62 % chances for top 16 points of 2014
~ 62.15 % of the time kr soO wins and their chances go up to ~ 94.02 %.
~ 37.85 % of the time kr soO loses and their chances go down to ~ 32.2 %.
-------------------------------------------------
- kr TRUE is at ~ 10.78 % chances for top 16 points of 2014
~ 37.85 % of the time kr TRUE wins and their chances go up to ~ 26.78 %.
~ 62.15 % of the time kr TRUE loses and their chances go down to ~ 1.04 %.


+ Show Spoiler [Winning Chances] +

GSL S2 Code S
kr Classic has a ~ 64.46 % chance to win. This would increase their chances from ~ 81.67 % to ~ 99.92 %
kr soO has a ~ 26.16 % chance to win. This would increase their chances from ~ 70.62 % to ~ 100 %
kr TRUE has a ~ 9.38 % chance to win. This would increase their chances from ~ 10.78 % to ~ 85.37 %


GSL tournament page http://sc2.4ever.tv/?page=tournament&tid=13&bbcode=1

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Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-20 10:53:19
June 20 2014 10:52 GMT
#852
Argh wrong thread.
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