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Austria24422 Posts
On June 09 2014 02:48 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2014 02:47 DarkLordOlli wrote:
It's not like Rain was the only one complaining about terran. Pretty much every interview after the widow mine patch was protoss/terrans saying how strong terran is now.
It lasted like a week before all the terrans went back to complaining. You're silly because you actually believe that shit and think Terran is stronger than Protoss
I don't D:
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On June 09 2014 02:48 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2014 02:47 Yorkie wrote:On June 09 2014 02:46 Lorning wrote:On June 09 2014 02:46 Yorkie wrote:On June 09 2014 02:45 Lorning wrote:On June 09 2014 02:44 Yorkie wrote:On June 09 2014 02:43 Lorning wrote:On June 09 2014 02:43 Yorkie wrote:On June 09 2014 02:42 Darkhorse wrote:On June 09 2014 02:40 Lorning wrote:
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I really hope he comes to EU if he gets picked up by Mill Nah I hope he stays in Korea and wins code S by beating MKP in Ro32, sOs/Zest/Parting in Ro16, Rain in Ro8, soO in Ro4, and finally gets his revenge on Roro in the final. Hahaha MKP making Code S hahahaha shut ur mouth or ill have to beat on it You're going to beat on my mouth? Ugh your entire face Can we at least film it so I can make some money? ur face will be redder than prime's icon m8 Wouldn't it be white? If it's red you should get that checked out this guy
You started it.
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United States97277 Posts
On June 09 2014 02:49 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2014 02:47 Shellshock wrote:On June 09 2014 02:45 Yorkie wrote:
And Life is your Dreamhack Bucharest Champion! Ty commercial I feel less bad that Bomber is out Bomber fans should feel bad. He lost to a random player and a foreign Terran. When was the last time a foreign terran won an offline TvT vs a Korean? MajOr vs Bbyong? Wow 4 months ago so long. Also go away Bomber is still way better and more relevant than MKP
i dont see what mkp has to do with this tournament. He's not in it. still Bomber is looking like a shell of his old self. definitely not a top tier korean anymore
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On June 09 2014 02:47 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2014 02:46 Yorkie wrote:On June 09 2014 02:46 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On June 09 2014 02:44 chipmonklord17 wrote:On June 09 2014 02:43 Shellshock wrote:On June 09 2014 02:42 stuchiu wrote:On June 09 2014 02:42 Ej_ wrote:On June 09 2014 02:41 stuchiu wrote:On June 09 2014 02:39 Aeromi wrote:On June 09 2014 02:39 Lorning wrote:
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Symbol? Maybe, maybe not. Dear YoDa HAHAHHAHAHAH, May as well get Center if you're gonna get Yoda. Remember when Yoda was world champion? Literally no one remembers that Poor Yoda ;; banished to the void of sc2 with aLive aLive still plays in proleague sometimes though aLive looks like a prime player when he comes out in proleague
aLive doesn't beat Code S players
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On June 09 2014 02:45 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2014 02:44 Darkhorse wrote:On June 09 2014 02:42 Nebuchad wrote:On June 09 2014 02:40 Vindicare605 wrote:On June 09 2014 02:38 Swisslink wrote:On June 09 2014 02:35 Vindicare605 wrote:On June 09 2014 02:33 Darkhorse wrote:On June 09 2014 02:32 Vindicare605 wrote:On June 09 2014 02:29 Varroth wrote:On June 09 2014 02:28 Darkhorse wrote:
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Yeah the main problem is Mutas. They are pretty freakin good in HotS and mines at least do something to them. I guess you just have to fight Zerg before they get an unsplittable number of banelings I seriously didnt hear shit about mutas being too strong infact i heard Zerg was the weakest during protoss reign of terror and now suddenly mutas are overpowered cause maps are imbalanced? It was Zergs saying that Zerg was weak during the Protoss reign of terror. Whenever Zerg isn't blatantly overpowered (and even when they are) there will be people arguing that Zerg is the weakest race. Such is the nature of the Zerg fans. Fans of all races do this. It's been a while since Terran was overpowered, (Helbat drop era) and I'm pretty sure that most Terran fans were acknowledging of how much bullshit that was. I don't think I saw anyone at that time argue that terran was weak, I literally just never saw it. W00z? There were lots of people arguing that the Terrans weren't strong back then, but the players were just miles above the players of the other two races :-P Weren't strong =/= weak. As a contrast for reference, during the Protoss Reign of Terror, Rain says in an interview that Terran is unbeatable and that they were more imbalanced than Infestor/Broodlord. That's the kind of ridiculous shit I've never seen during a period of Terran dominance. What do you think ended the protoss reign of terror? My guess is, some sort of patch had something to do with it. When do you think Rain said that? Oh, he said that after the patch. All right then. It was still BS because after that patch there still ended up only being 3/32 Terrans in Code S and Rain breezed his way to a top 4 finish. He was wrong to say it, yeah. He still didn't say it during the period, so Vindicare's point is wrong.
I'm trying to look up an exact date of Rain's interview.
Because.... there were actually 2 patches that directly addressed TvP and they were patched in a month apart from one another.
The first was just a MSC nerf. The second was the Widow Mine buff vs shields.
In order for your argument to be correct Rain would've had to have made those statements after March 1st.
Just looked it up, he said it like two weeks after the second patch. So you're right. Still a ridiculous interview though.
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On June 09 2014 02:48 Jazzman88 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2014 02:46 TheDwf wrote:On June 09 2014 02:45 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Yet another premier championship eludes Scarlett, and the whole hellbat push meta in the Terran's court certainly helped with that one...
I know I'm gonna get railed. If only you could build a Roach Warren for 150 minerals in case Terran uses this kind of push. Life did that versus Flash the other day, and he probably would have held if not for the fact that he derped on a 4 Marine drop that killed 2 Overlords and some Drones in his main after already picking off the scouting Overlord at Flash's bases. It was a close fight even with those 300-400 extra minerals sunk into unnecessary losses.
Life did hold from memory.
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On June 09 2014 02:49 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2014 02:49 Lorning wrote:On June 09 2014 02:47 Shellshock wrote:On June 09 2014 02:46 Yorkie wrote:On June 09 2014 02:46 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On June 09 2014 02:44 chipmonklord17 wrote:On June 09 2014 02:43 Shellshock wrote:On June 09 2014 02:42 stuchiu wrote:On June 09 2014 02:42 Ej_ wrote:On June 09 2014 02:41 stuchiu wrote:
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Dear YoDa HAHAHHAHAHAH, May as well get Center if you're gonna get Yoda. Remember when Yoda was world champion? Literally no one remembers that Poor Yoda ;; banished to the void of sc2 with aLive aLive still plays in proleague sometimes though aLive looks like a prime player when he comes out in proleague Uh no he looks better than TerrOr though I'll give him that
aLive doesn't even come close to Prime players' amazing skill
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MaNa practising his rapist look.
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On June 09 2014 02:50 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2014 02:47 Shellshock wrote:On June 09 2014 02:46 Yorkie wrote:On June 09 2014 02:46 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On June 09 2014 02:44 chipmonklord17 wrote:On June 09 2014 02:43 Shellshock wrote:On June 09 2014 02:42 stuchiu wrote:On June 09 2014 02:42 Ej_ wrote:On June 09 2014 02:41 stuchiu wrote:On June 09 2014 02:39 Aeromi wrote:
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Maybe, maybe not. Dear YoDa HAHAHHAHAHAH, May as well get Center if you're gonna get Yoda. Remember when Yoda was world champion? Literally no one remembers that Poor Yoda ;; banished to the void of sc2 with aLive aLive still plays in proleague sometimes though aLive looks like a prime player when he comes out in proleague aLive doesn't beat Code S players
Even if he did, nobody would remember. ;;
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United States23455 Posts
aLive bashing neo Prime bashing TT
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On June 09 2014 02:49 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2014 02:48 Xorphene wrote:On June 09 2014 02:46 TheDwf wrote:On June 09 2014 02:45 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Yet another premier championship eludes Scarlett, and the whole hellbat push meta in the Terran's court certainly helped with that one...
I know I'm gonna get railed. If only you could build a Roach Warren for 150 minerals in case Terran uses this kind of push. Except you can't scout it in time. Overlord speed after ling speed see's completed armory too late. Which means you are blind-dropping a roach warren, never good to blindly drop tech. Yep, I can certainly understand why losing a worker and spending 150 minerals puts you immensely behind in a 40 workers / 1.5k minerals per minut economy.
Yeah, okay we can get the Roach Warren. We still can't scout the armory in time and we would need to build roaches blindly before the attack is at our door, because once it's there it's too late to get roaches.
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On June 09 2014 02:50 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2014 02:48 Jazzman88 wrote:On June 09 2014 02:46 TheDwf wrote:On June 09 2014 02:45 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Yet another premier championship eludes Scarlett, and the whole hellbat push meta in the Terran's court certainly helped with that one...
I know I'm gonna get railed. If only you could build a Roach Warren for 150 minerals in case Terran uses this kind of push. Life did that versus Flash the other day, and he probably would have held if not for the fact that he derped on a 4 Marine drop that killed 2 Overlords and some Drones in his main after already picking off the scouting Overlord at Flash's bases. It was a close fight even with those 300-400 extra minerals sunk into unnecessary losses. Life did hold from memory.
Well, he 'held' and then got crushed right after that by the follow-up push because he had not even close to enough left in the tank to get out the right tech/unit count.
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On June 09 2014 02:51 Darkhorse wrote:
aLive bashing neo Prime bashing TT
Good
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Northern Ireland27462 Posts
It's a shame this patch came in, it's totally unfair for Zergs to build more than 6 lings and defend with only Queens for the early game.
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On June 09 2014 02:49 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2014 02:48 Lorning wrote:On June 09 2014 02:47 Yorkie wrote:On June 09 2014 02:46 Lorning wrote:On June 09 2014 02:46 Yorkie wrote:On June 09 2014 02:45 Lorning wrote:On June 09 2014 02:44 Yorkie wrote:On June 09 2014 02:43 Lorning wrote:On June 09 2014 02:43 Yorkie wrote:On June 09 2014 02:42 Darkhorse wrote:
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Nah I hope he stays in Korea and wins code S by beating MKP in Ro32, sOs/Zest/Parting in Ro16, Rain in Ro8, soO in Ro4, and finally gets his revenge on Roro in the final. Hahaha MKP making Code S hahahaha shut ur mouth or ill have to beat on it You're going to beat on my mouth? Ugh your entire face Can we at least film it so I can make some money? ur face will be redder than prime's icon m8 Wouldn't it be white? If it's red you should get that checked out this guy You started it.
You insulted MKP
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United States23455 Posts
On June 09 2014 02:49 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2014 02:48 Darkhorse wrote:On June 09 2014 02:47 DarkLordOlli wrote:
It's not like Rain was the only one complaining about terran. Pretty much every interview after the widow mine patch was protoss/terrans saying how strong terran is now.
It lasted like a week before all the terrans went back to complaining. You're silly because you actually believe that shit and think Terran is stronger than Protoss I don't D:
I don't remember a single Terran interview of them saying Terran was too strong. I do remember I think a few that say Terran is too strong from Protoss players.
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On June 09 2014 02:47 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2014 02:46 Yorkie wrote:On June 09 2014 02:46 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On June 09 2014 02:44 chipmonklord17 wrote:On June 09 2014 02:43 Shellshock wrote:On June 09 2014 02:42 stuchiu wrote:On June 09 2014 02:42 Ej_ wrote:On June 09 2014 02:41 stuchiu wrote:On June 09 2014 02:39 Aeromi wrote:On June 09 2014 02:39 Lorning wrote:
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Symbol? Maybe, maybe not. Dear YoDa HAHAHHAHAHAH, May as well get Center if you're gonna get Yoda. Remember when Yoda was world champion? Literally no one remembers that Poor Yoda ;; banished to the void of sc2 with aLive aLive still plays in proleague sometimes though aLive looks like a prime player when he comes out in proleague
Oh c'mon he looks alright. he lost to Life in a weird Habitation game, played solidly against Reality and sOs
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On June 09 2014 02:50 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2014 02:45 Nebuchad wrote:On June 09 2014 02:44 Darkhorse wrote:On June 09 2014 02:42 Nebuchad wrote:On June 09 2014 02:40 Vindicare605 wrote:On June 09 2014 02:38 Swisslink wrote:On June 09 2014 02:35 Vindicare605 wrote:On June 09 2014 02:33 Darkhorse wrote:On June 09 2014 02:32 Vindicare605 wrote:On June 09 2014 02:29 Varroth wrote:
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I seriously didnt hear shit about mutas being too strong infact i heard Zerg was the weakest during protoss reign of terror and now suddenly mutas are overpowered cause maps are imbalanced? It was Zergs saying that Zerg was weak during the Protoss reign of terror. Whenever Zerg isn't blatantly overpowered (and even when they are) there will be people arguing that Zerg is the weakest race. Such is the nature of the Zerg fans. Fans of all races do this. It's been a while since Terran was overpowered, (Helbat drop era) and I'm pretty sure that most Terran fans were acknowledging of how much bullshit that was. I don't think I saw anyone at that time argue that terran was weak, I literally just never saw it. W00z? There were lots of people arguing that the Terrans weren't strong back then, but the players were just miles above the players of the other two races :-P Weren't strong =/= weak. As a contrast for reference, during the Protoss Reign of Terror, Rain says in an interview that Terran is unbeatable and that they were more imbalanced than Infestor/Broodlord. That's the kind of ridiculous shit I've never seen during a period of Terran dominance. What do you think ended the protoss reign of terror? My guess is, some sort of patch had something to do with it. When do you think Rain said that? Oh, he said that after the patch. All right then. It was still BS because after that patch there still ended up only being 3/32 Terrans in Code S and Rain breezed his way to a top 4 finish. He was wrong to say it, yeah. He still didn't say it during the period, so Vindicare's point is wrong. I'm trying to look up an exact date of Rain's interview. Because.... there were actually 2 patches that directly addressed TvP and they were patched in a month apart from one another. The first was just a MSC nerf. The second was the Widow Mine buff vs shields. In order for your argument to be correct Rain would've had to have made those statements after March 1st.
And he did. Interview on March 18/19. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/446651-interviews-2014-gsl-season-1-code-s-ro8-winners
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On June 09 2014 02:49 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2014 02:48 Heavenlee wrote:On June 09 2014 02:45 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Yet another premier championship eludes Scarlett, and the whole hellbat push meta in the Terran's court certainly helped with that one...
I know I'm gonna get railed. Are you trying to do one balance whine per page until the end of the tourney or what? Just curious. I'm not whining about the balance, it's more about how the cycle of the meta works against Scarlett here. Terrans get a buff and are able to incorporate a strong new build that is killing Zergs who are trying a bunch of things, and it's gonna take time before they figure it out. It just totally sucks is all.
I'm sure you were equally upset when Terrans were the victims of this via buffs/nerfs or map pool changes... Right?
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On June 09 2014 02:50 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2014 02:45 Nebuchad wrote:On June 09 2014 02:44 Darkhorse wrote:On June 09 2014 02:42 Nebuchad wrote:On June 09 2014 02:40 Vindicare605 wrote:On June 09 2014 02:38 Swisslink wrote:On June 09 2014 02:35 Vindicare605 wrote:On June 09 2014 02:33 Darkhorse wrote:On June 09 2014 02:32 Vindicare605 wrote:On June 09 2014 02:29 Varroth wrote:
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I seriously didnt hear shit about mutas being too strong infact i heard Zerg was the weakest during protoss reign of terror and now suddenly mutas are overpowered cause maps are imbalanced? It was Zergs saying that Zerg was weak during the Protoss reign of terror. Whenever Zerg isn't blatantly overpowered (and even when they are) there will be people arguing that Zerg is the weakest race. Such is the nature of the Zerg fans. Fans of all races do this. It's been a while since Terran was overpowered, (Helbat drop era) and I'm pretty sure that most Terran fans were acknowledging of how much bullshit that was. I don't think I saw anyone at that time argue that terran was weak, I literally just never saw it. W00z? There were lots of people arguing that the Terrans weren't strong back then, but the players were just miles above the players of the other two races :-P Weren't strong =/= weak. As a contrast for reference, during the Protoss Reign of Terror, Rain says in an interview that Terran is unbeatable and that they were more imbalanced than Infestor/Broodlord. That's the kind of ridiculous shit I've never seen during a period of Terran dominance. What do you think ended the protoss reign of terror? My guess is, some sort of patch had something to do with it. When do you think Rain said that? Oh, he said that after the patch. All right then. It was still BS because after that patch there still ended up only being 3/32 Terrans in Code S and Rain breezed his way to a top 4 finish. He was wrong to say it, yeah. He still didn't say it during the period, so Vindicare's point is wrong. I'm trying to look up an exact date of Rain's interview. Because.... there were actually 2 patches that directly addressed TvP and they were patched in a month apart from one another. The first was just a MSC nerf. The second was the Widow Mine buff vs shields. In order for your argument to be correct Rain would've had to have made those statements after March 1st.
Considering "broodlord-infestor" involves some type of mine play, I'd be surprised if he said it before the mine buff...
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