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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12381 Posts
June 08 2014 17:45 GMT
#1821
On June 09 2014 02:44 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2014 02:42 Nebuchad wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:40 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:38 Swisslink wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:35 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:33 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:32 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:29 Varroth wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:28 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:26 Vindicare605 wrote:
[quote]

Well that's due to a combination of two things IMO.

The HoTS Mutalisk on these absurdly large maps.

Yeah the main problem is Mutas. They are pretty freakin good in HotS and mines at least do something to them. I guess you just have to fight Zerg before they get an unsplittable number of banelings


I seriously didnt hear shit about mutas being too strong infact i heard Zerg was the weakest during protoss reign of terror and now suddenly mutas are overpowered cause maps are imbalanced?


It was Zergs saying that Zerg was weak during the Protoss reign of terror.

Whenever Zerg isn't blatantly overpowered (and even when they are) there will be people arguing that Zerg is the weakest race.

Such is the nature of the Zerg fans.

Fans of all races do this.


It's been a while since Terran was overpowered, (Helbat drop era) and I'm pretty sure that most Terran fans were acknowledging of how much bullshit that was.

I don't think I saw anyone at that time argue that terran was weak, I literally just never saw it.


W00z?
There were lots of people arguing that the Terrans weren't strong back then, but the players were just miles above the players of the other two races :-P


Weren't strong =/= weak.

As a contrast for reference, during the Protoss Reign of Terror, Rain says in an interview that Terran is unbeatable and that they were more imbalanced than Infestor/Broodlord.

That's the kind of ridiculous shit I've never seen during a period of Terran dominance.


What do you think ended the protoss reign of terror?

My guess is, some sort of patch had something to do with it.

When do you think Rain said that?

Oh, he said that after the patch.

All right then.

It was still BS because after that patch there still ended up only being 3/32 Terrans in Code S and Rain breezed his way to a top 4 finish.


He was wrong to say it, yeah. He still didn't say it during the period, so Vindicare's point is wrong.
No will to live, no wish to die
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
June 08 2014 17:46 GMT
#1822
On June 09 2014 02:44 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2014 02:43 Shellshock wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:42 stuchiu wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:42 Ej_ wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:41 stuchiu wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:39 Aeromi wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:39 Lorning wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:38 Aeromi wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:38 Shellshock wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:37 Myt wrote:
[quote]

signing from Vortix?

Mill only signs terrans

You'll see.

Symbol?

Maybe, maybe not.


Dear

YoDa


HAHAHHAHAHAH, May as well get Center if you're gonna get Yoda.

Remember when Yoda was world champion?



Literally no one remembers that


Poor Yoda ;;

banished to the void of sc2 with aLive
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8159 Posts
June 08 2014 17:46 GMT
#1823
On June 09 2014 02:45 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Yet another premier championship eludes Scarlett, and the whole hellbat push meta in the Terran's court certainly helped with that one...

I know I'm gonna get railed.


For what? It's a very new build, and zergs haven't figured it out yet. Everything you said was right
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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
June 08 2014 17:46 GMT
#1824
On June 09 2014 02:45 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2014 02:44 Yorkie wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:43 Lorning wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:43 Yorkie wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:42 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:40 Lorning wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:40 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:39 Lorning wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:38 Aeromi wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:38 Shellshock wrote:
[quote]
Mill only signs terrans

You'll see.

Symbol?

TSLLLLLLLLLLLL

I really hope he comes to EU if he gets picked up by Mill

Nah I hope he stays in Korea and wins code S by beating MKP in Ro32, sOs/Zest/Parting in Ro16, Rain in Ro8, soO in Ro4, and finally gets his revenge on Roro in the final.

Hahaha MKP making Code S hahahaha

shut ur mouth or ill have to beat on it

You're going to beat on my mouth? Ugh

your entire face

Can we at least film it so I can make some money?
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
June 08 2014 17:46 GMT
#1825
On June 09 2014 02:46 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2014 02:44 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:43 Shellshock wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:42 stuchiu wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:42 Ej_ wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:41 stuchiu wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:39 Aeromi wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:39 Lorning wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:38 Aeromi wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:38 Shellshock wrote:
[quote]
Mill only signs terrans

You'll see.

Symbol?

Maybe, maybe not.


Dear

YoDa


HAHAHHAHAHAH, May as well get Center if you're gonna get Yoda.

Remember when Yoda was world champion?



Literally no one remembers that


Poor Yoda ;;

banished to the void of sc2 with aLive


ro16 void is ok
Zest fanboy.
Deleted User 218615
Profile Joined September 2011
163 Posts
June 08 2014 17:46 GMT
#1826
Does anyone have a link to the HSC playlist?
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
June 08 2014 17:46 GMT
#1827
On June 09 2014 02:45 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Yet another premier championship eludes Scarlett, and the whole hellbat push meta in the Terran's court certainly helped with that one...

I know I'm gonna get railed.

If only you could build a Roach Warren for 150 minerals in case Terran uses this kind of push.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
June 08 2014 17:46 GMT
#1828
On June 09 2014 02:43 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2014 02:43 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:42 stuchiu wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:42 Ej_ wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:41 stuchiu wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:39 Aeromi wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:39 Lorning wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:38 Aeromi wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:38 Shellshock wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:37 Myt wrote:
[quote]

signing from Vortix?

Mill only signs terrans

You'll see.

Symbol?

Maybe, maybe not.


Dear

YoDa


HAHAHHAHAHAH, May as well get Center if you're gonna get Yoda.

Center still looks good. I watched his stream a few times.


I'm also good looking but I suck at sc2


Pls give pictures
AdministratorBreak the chains
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
June 08 2014 17:46 GMT
#1829
On June 09 2014 02:46 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2014 02:45 Lorning wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:44 Yorkie wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:43 Lorning wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:43 Yorkie wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:42 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:40 Lorning wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:40 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:39 Lorning wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:38 Aeromi wrote:
[quote]
You'll see.

Symbol?

TSLLLLLLLLLLLL

I really hope he comes to EU if he gets picked up by Mill

Nah I hope he stays in Korea and wins code S by beating MKP in Ro32, sOs/Zest/Parting in Ro16, Rain in Ro8, soO in Ro4, and finally gets his revenge on Roro in the final.

Hahaha MKP making Code S hahahaha

shut ur mouth or ill have to beat on it

You're going to beat on my mouth? Ugh

your entire face

Can we at least film it so I can make some money?

ur face will be redder than prime's icon m8
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
June 08 2014 17:46 GMT
#1830
On June 09 2014 02:45 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2014 02:44 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:42 Nebuchad wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:40 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:38 Swisslink wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:35 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:33 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:32 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:29 Varroth wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:28 Darkhorse wrote:
[quote]
Yeah the main problem is Mutas. They are pretty freakin good in HotS and mines at least do something to them. I guess you just have to fight Zerg before they get an unsplittable number of banelings


I seriously didnt hear shit about mutas being too strong infact i heard Zerg was the weakest during protoss reign of terror and now suddenly mutas are overpowered cause maps are imbalanced?


It was Zergs saying that Zerg was weak during the Protoss reign of terror.

Whenever Zerg isn't blatantly overpowered (and even when they are) there will be people arguing that Zerg is the weakest race.

Such is the nature of the Zerg fans.

Fans of all races do this.


It's been a while since Terran was overpowered, (Helbat drop era) and I'm pretty sure that most Terran fans were acknowledging of how much bullshit that was.

I don't think I saw anyone at that time argue that terran was weak, I literally just never saw it.


W00z?
There were lots of people arguing that the Terrans weren't strong back then, but the players were just miles above the players of the other two races :-P


Weren't strong =/= weak.

As a contrast for reference, during the Protoss Reign of Terror, Rain says in an interview that Terran is unbeatable and that they were more imbalanced than Infestor/Broodlord.

That's the kind of ridiculous shit I've never seen during a period of Terran dominance.


What do you think ended the protoss reign of terror?

My guess is, some sort of patch had something to do with it.

When do you think Rain said that?

Oh, he said that after the patch.

All right then.

It was still BS because after that patch there still ended up only being 3/32 Terrans in Code S and Rain breezed his way to a top 4 finish.

Well, he's so good he naturally overcame the imbalance.

Ah yeah that's true. Terrans always say that the Terran players are just better but really it's just Rain.

Anyways Safety Dance!
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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
June 08 2014 17:46 GMT
#1831
On June 09 2014 02:46 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2014 02:44 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:43 Shellshock wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:42 stuchiu wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:42 Ej_ wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:41 stuchiu wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:39 Aeromi wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:39 Lorning wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:38 Aeromi wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:38 Shellshock wrote:
[quote]
Mill only signs terrans

You'll see.

Symbol?

Maybe, maybe not.


Dear

YoDa


HAHAHHAHAHAH, May as well get Center if you're gonna get Yoda.

Remember when Yoda was world champion?



Literally no one remembers that


Poor Yoda ;;

banished to the void of sc2 with aLive

aLive still plays in proleague sometimes though
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 08 2014 17:47 GMT
#1832
On June 09 2014 02:45 Yorkie wrote:
And Life is your Dreamhack Bucharest Champion! Ty commercial I feel less bad that Bomber is out

Bomber fans should feel bad. He lost to a random player and a foreign Terran. When was the last time a foreign terran won an offline TvT vs a Korean? MajOr vs Bbyong?
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VeNoM HaZ Skill
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1528 Posts
June 08 2014 17:47 GMT
#1833
S-A-F-E-T-Y! SAFETY! DANCE!
#1 MMA fan! I like you too Taeja. Still patiently waiting for the Crown Prince to become the King.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 08 2014 17:47 GMT
#1834
On June 09 2014 02:46 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2014 02:44 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:43 Shellshock wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:42 stuchiu wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:42 Ej_ wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:41 stuchiu wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:39 Aeromi wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:39 Lorning wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:38 Aeromi wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:38 Shellshock wrote:
[quote]
Mill only signs terrans

You'll see.

Symbol?

Maybe, maybe not.


Dear

YoDa


HAHAHHAHAHAH, May as well get Center if you're gonna get Yoda.

Remember when Yoda was world champion?



Literally no one remembers that


Poor Yoda ;;

banished to the void of sc2 with aLive

I still remember when Scarlett punished Mvp in GSTL and IM had to bring in YoDa to kill her
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Varroth
Profile Joined April 2014
Sweden471 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-08 17:47:56
June 08 2014 17:47 GMT
#1835
On June 09 2014 02:44 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2014 02:42 Nebuchad wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:40 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:38 Swisslink wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:35 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:33 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:32 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:29 Varroth wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:28 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:26 Vindicare605 wrote:
[quote]

Well that's due to a combination of two things IMO.

The HoTS Mutalisk on these absurdly large maps.

Yeah the main problem is Mutas. They are pretty freakin good in HotS and mines at least do something to them. I guess you just have to fight Zerg before they get an unsplittable number of banelings


I seriously didnt hear shit about mutas being too strong infact i heard Zerg was the weakest during protoss reign of terror and now suddenly mutas are overpowered cause maps are imbalanced?


It was Zergs saying that Zerg was weak during the Protoss reign of terror.

Whenever Zerg isn't blatantly overpowered (and even when they are) there will be people arguing that Zerg is the weakest race.

Such is the nature of the Zerg fans.

Fans of all races do this.


It's been a while since Terran was overpowered, (Helbat drop era) and I'm pretty sure that most Terran fans were acknowledging of how much bullshit that was.

I don't think I saw anyone at that time argue that terran was weak, I literally just never saw it.


W00z?
There were lots of people arguing that the Terrans weren't strong back then, but the players were just miles above the players of the other two races :-P


Weren't strong =/= weak.

As a contrast for reference, during the Protoss Reign of Terror, Rain says in an interview that Terran is unbeatable and that they were more imbalanced than Infestor/Broodlord.

That's the kind of ridiculous shit I've never seen during a period of Terran dominance.


What do you think ended the protoss reign of terror?

My guess is, some sort of patch had something to do with it.

When do you think Rain said that?

Oh, he said that after the patch.

All right then.

It was still BS because after that patch there still ended up only being 3/32 Terrans in Code S and Rain breezed his way to a top 4 finish.


Zergs eliminated all the terrans from Code A, most toss are just remenants from previous season. also was 4 not 3
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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
June 08 2014 17:47 GMT
#1836
On June 09 2014 02:46 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2014 02:46 Yorkie wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:45 Lorning wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:44 Yorkie wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:43 Lorning wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:43 Yorkie wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:42 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:40 Lorning wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:40 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:39 Lorning wrote:
[quote]
Symbol?

TSLLLLLLLLLLLL

I really hope he comes to EU if he gets picked up by Mill

Nah I hope he stays in Korea and wins code S by beating MKP in Ro32, sOs/Zest/Parting in Ro16, Rain in Ro8, soO in Ro4, and finally gets his revenge on Roro in the final.

Hahaha MKP making Code S hahahaha

shut ur mouth or ill have to beat on it

You're going to beat on my mouth? Ugh

your entire face

Can we at least film it so I can make some money?

ur face will be redder than prime's icon m8

Wouldn't it be white? If it's red you should get that checked out
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
jakethesnake
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada4948 Posts
June 08 2014 17:47 GMT
#1837
You can dance if you want to!
Community Newsjjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji nshoseo.jpg
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
June 08 2014 17:47 GMT
#1838
On June 09 2014 02:44 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2014 02:42 Nebuchad wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:40 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:38 Swisslink wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:35 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:33 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:32 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:29 Varroth wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:28 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:26 Vindicare605 wrote:
[quote]

Well that's due to a combination of two things IMO.

The HoTS Mutalisk on these absurdly large maps.

Yeah the main problem is Mutas. They are pretty freakin good in HotS and mines at least do something to them. I guess you just have to fight Zerg before they get an unsplittable number of banelings


I seriously didnt hear shit about mutas being too strong infact i heard Zerg was the weakest during protoss reign of terror and now suddenly mutas are overpowered cause maps are imbalanced?


It was Zergs saying that Zerg was weak during the Protoss reign of terror.

Whenever Zerg isn't blatantly overpowered (and even when they are) there will be people arguing that Zerg is the weakest race.

Such is the nature of the Zerg fans.

Fans of all races do this.


It's been a while since Terran was overpowered, (Helbat drop era) and I'm pretty sure that most Terran fans were acknowledging of how much bullshit that was.

I don't think I saw anyone at that time argue that terran was weak, I literally just never saw it.


W00z?
There were lots of people arguing that the Terrans weren't strong back then, but the players were just miles above the players of the other two races :-P


Weren't strong =/= weak.

As a contrast for reference, during the Protoss Reign of Terror, Rain says in an interview that Terran is unbeatable and that they were more imbalanced than Infestor/Broodlord.

That's the kind of ridiculous shit I've never seen during a period of Terran dominance.


What do you think ended the protoss reign of terror?

My guess is, some sort of patch had something to do with it.

When do you think Rain said that?

Oh, he said that after the patch.

All right then.

It was still BS because after that patch there still ended up only being 3/32 Terrans in Code S and Rain breezed his way to a top 4 finish.


I don't think that Rain is right, but your argument doesn't mean anything. GSL and WCS have a ton of inertia which delays the result of any patch on competition, and ZvT was fairly zerg favoured around that time which would also impact the results.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
June 08 2014 17:47 GMT
#1839
It's not like Rain was the only one complaining about terran. Pretty much every interview after the widow mine patch was protoss/terrans saying how strong terran is now.

It lasted like a week before all the terrans went back to complaining.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 08 2014 17:47 GMT
#1840
On June 09 2014 02:46 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2014 02:46 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:44 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:43 Shellshock wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:42 stuchiu wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:42 Ej_ wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:41 stuchiu wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:39 Aeromi wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:39 Lorning wrote:
On June 09 2014 02:38 Aeromi wrote:
[quote]
You'll see.

Symbol?

Maybe, maybe not.


Dear

YoDa


HAHAHHAHAHAH, May as well get Center if you're gonna get Yoda.

Remember when Yoda was world champion?



Literally no one remembers that


Poor Yoda ;;

banished to the void of sc2 with aLive

aLive still plays in proleague sometimes though

aLive looks like a prime player when he comes out in proleague
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