★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
27%
★★★- Good game (5)
33%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (3)
20%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (3)
20%
15 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Creator vs Bunny?
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★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5)
36%
★★★- Good game (7)
50%
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0%
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0%
14 total votes
Your vote: Recommend KassiA vs herO?
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9%
★★★- Good game (4)
36%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (4)
36%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
9%
11 total votes
Your vote: Recommend SalvatioN vs Bbyong?
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★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
6%
★★★- Good game (3)
18%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (7)
41%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (5)
29%
17 total votes
Your vote: Recommend MarineKing vs Sora?
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★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
22%
★★★- Good game (4)
44%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
11%
9 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Ace Match?
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Why do two of the korean casters think Creator will lose :s He plays protoss in this PvT match up He is vs Bunny He is known for all in and abusive builds :s
On April 28 2014 20:26 Pandemona wrote: Why do two of the korean casters think Creator will lose :s He plays protoss in this PvT match up He is vs Bunny He is known for all in and abusive builds :s
On April 28 2014 20:26 Pandemona wrote: Why do two of the korean casters think Creator will lose :s He plays protoss in this PvT match up He is vs Bunny He is known for all in and abusive builds :s
actually, the third thing is part of the definition of protoss
On April 28 2014 20:26 Pandemona wrote: Why do two of the korean casters think Creator will lose :s He plays protoss in this PvT match up He is vs Bunny He is known for all in and abusive builds :s
On April 28 2014 20:26 Pandemona wrote: Why do two of the korean casters think Creator will lose :s He plays protoss in this PvT match up He is vs Bunny He is known for all in and abusive builds :s
He's on Prime
This is true i guess but still xD Surely Zealously Curse + not inform trumps being on prime?
On April 28 2014 20:26 Pandemona wrote: Why do two of the korean casters think Creator will lose :s He plays protoss in this PvT match up He is vs Bunny He is known for all in and abusive builds :s
what did he say this time? i'm sitting under my desk in a lecture
sc2 is a good drug
He takes every chance he can get to call Prime bad
PSA: Truth hurts
Sometimes you're just asking for it...
You should just ignore them. The only ones that call out prime are other garbage tier team league team fans like Startale and IM fans. Do you think any other team would do as awful if they had the resources of that partnership? They have like a 20 man roster from 4 teams and they're the only team besides prime that hasn't made the playoffs. They have to pick on someone to not feel completely pathetic for how they've performed in proleague.
what did he say this time? i'm sitting under my desk in a lecture
sc2 is a good drug
He takes every chance he can get to call Prime bad
PSA: Truth hurts
Sometimes you're just asking for it...
You should just ignore them. The only ones that call out prime are other garbage tier team league team fans like Startale and IM fans. Do you think any other team would do as awful if they had the resources of that partnership? They have like a 20 man roster from 4 teams and they're the only team besides prime that hasn't made the playoffs. They have to pick on someone to not feel completely pathetic for how they've performed in proleague.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
27%
★★★- Good game (5)
33%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (3)
20%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (3)
20%
15 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Creator vs Bunny?
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Really good game. Creator has to up his drop defense. A better terran will wreck that. Bunny played well, but that fight was hard anyhow. A lot of observers.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
27%
★★★- Good game (5)
33%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (3)
20%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (3)
20%
15 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Creator vs Bunny?
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On April 28 2014 20:57 Lorning wrote: Why are people whining? Creator held off the drop play very well. Only lost some buildings and units, nothing too big
He was better than Bunny
Wolf's closet racism against Protoss is rubbing off on them.
On April 28 2014 20:57 Lorning wrote: Why are people whining? Creator held off the drop play very well. Only lost some buildings and units, nothing too big
He was better than Bunny
I really wonder what your comment would be if the Terran was PRIME and the Protoss from another team. (:
On April 28 2014 20:57 Lorning wrote: Why are people whining? Creator held off the drop play very well. Only lost some buildings and units, nothing too big
He was better than Bunny
He handled that triple drop shittily
Then again Bunny didn't control it very well either so he didn't exactly do as much damage as he could have.
On April 28 2014 20:57 Lorning wrote: Why are people whining? Creator held off the drop play very well. Only lost some buildings and units, nothing too big
He was better than Bunny
Being better than Bunny isn't a lot to brag about, and compared to the better protosses in the league, there was a lot of way he could have improved on that aspect.
On April 28 2014 20:57 Lorning wrote: Why are people whining? Creator held off the drop play very well. Only lost some buildings and units, nothing too big
He was better than Bunny
I really wonder what your comment would be if the Terran was PRIME and the Protoss from another team. (:
Bunny did minimal damage, Creator could build his late game army pretty easily
This is a bad example if you want to balance whine
On April 28 2014 20:57 Lorning wrote: Why are people whining? Creator held off the drop play very well. Only lost some buildings and units, nothing too big
He was better than Bunny
You mean clicking on his nexus? Thats such great drop defence.
On April 28 2014 20:57 Lorning wrote: Why are people whining? Creator held off the drop play very well. Only lost some buildings and units, nothing too big
He was better than Bunny
Being better than Bunny isn't a lot to brag about, and compared to the better protosses in the league, there was a lot of way he could have improved on that aspect.
On April 28 2014 20:57 Lorning wrote: Why are people whining? Creator held off the drop play very well. Only lost some buildings and units, nothing too big
He was better than Bunny
Being better than Bunny isn't a lot to brag about, and compared to the better protosses in the league, there was a lot of way he could have improved on that aspect.
That's not the point
My post was about how his drop defense sucked. Then it is the point.
edit: sucked is a bit too harsh. It was not on the level of the top protosses.
On April 28 2014 20:57 Lorning wrote: Why are people whining? Creator held off the drop play very well. Only lost some buildings and units, nothing too big
He was better than Bunny
I really wonder what your comment would be if the Terran was PRIME and the Protoss from another team. (:
Race whiner vs team biased anti whiner commenter Lol
On April 28 2014 20:57 Lorning wrote: Why are people whining? Creator held off the drop play very well. Only lost some buildings and units, nothing too big
He was better than Bunny
I really wonder what your comment would be if the Terran was PRIME and the Protoss from another team. (:
Race whiner vs team biased anti whiner commenter Lol
I'm glad I took 2 seconds of my life to read your post.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5)
36%
★★★- Good game (7)
50%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
14 total votes
Your vote: Recommend KassiA vs herO?
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★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5)
36%
★★★- Good game (7)
50%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
14 total votes
Your vote: Recommend KassiA vs herO?
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herO played that out really well, wow. Disliked the split on the roach ball and hydra ball, being mixed is probably better. I love the roach burrow that is getting increasingly more popular lately.
On April 28 2014 21:13 Wintex wrote: herO played that out really well, wow. Disliked the split on the roach ball and hydra ball, being mixed is probably better. I love the roach burrow that is getting increasingly more popular lately.
Yeah just seems really weird to split up the hydra and roach.
On April 28 2014 21:18 TearsOfTheSun wrote: what tragedy was brendan just talking about?
Dunno, but maybe the ferry disaster that happened close to Jeju Island in Korea. Shit's gone bad. People are cancelling concerts and more and the prime minister GGed outta the game.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
9%
★★★- Good game (4)
36%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (4)
36%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
9%
11 total votes
Your vote: Recommend SalvatioN vs Bbyong?
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Haha, this was bound to happen, MKP knew he could kill Sora while Sora tried to make up for his 7 lost probes. Well done MKP still has a nice killer instinct.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
6%
★★★- Good game (3)
18%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (7)
41%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (5)
29%
17 total votes
Your vote: Recommend MarineKing vs Sora?
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★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
6%
★★★- Good game (3)
18%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (7)
41%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (5)
29%
17 total votes
Your vote: Recommend MarineKing vs Sora?
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Oh god.... What a terrible choice imo. Hoping he wins but, I wouldn't bet a dollar on Hydra to win a PL match these days.
Hopefully his snipe build works out! I can't get herO/Bbyong points out of this, nor can I get MKP points, but I can still get CJ points!!! (my FPL is already pretty shattered though, so oh well =P)
On April 28 2014 21:57 c0ldfusion wrote: lol everyone is shocked that it's Hydra
tbf it's usually pretty shocking that it's anyone but herO but with Creator's PvP and the map I was expecting Bbyong
Pffft, herO? The guy who's already lost two ace matches this round?
Even still, Hydra over both Bbyong and herO? Those 2 themselves ARE CJ =P I'm hoping the CJ lineup gets some depth soon, but putting the ace in the hands of someone other than the 2 people who have won almost all of their matches is pretty surprising. True though, that herO's results aren't "ace player" results this round, but aside from Bbyong's results, herO's still their best player.
On April 28 2014 21:57 c0ldfusion wrote: lol everyone is shocked that it's Hydra
tbf it's usually pretty shocking that it's anyone but herO but with Creator's PvP and the map I was expecting Bbyong
Pffft, herO? The guy who's already lost two ace matches this round?
Even still, Hydra over both Bbyong and herO? Those 2 themselves ARE CJ =P I'm hoping the CJ lineup gets some depth soon, but putting the ace in the hands of someone other than the 2 people who have won almost all of their matches is pretty surprising. True though, that herO's results aren't "ace player" results this round, but aside from Bbyong's results, herO's still their best player.
Even with relative herO's slump, Coach Park hadn't gave a single opportunity for Bbyong to play ace match. So, i guess, either he's not sure or only Hydra can come from herO's shadow.
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22%
★★★- Good game (4)
44%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
11%
9 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Ace Match?
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On April 28 2014 22:13 Pandemona wrote: So pissed missed MKP. fuck you Barclays you are the worst fucking bank in England.
lol you were held up at work?
Na i work for tyre company. I do the banking for the depot underneath the office and the Barclays branches have new set up and its fucking terrible. 1 Business till for the whole branch, the only branch in my city i might add. People have no idea how to uses the new set up so you have wasters in the queue, my average wait since it re opened 7 days ago is 30minutes ;_;
On April 28 2014 22:13 Pandemona wrote: So pissed missed MKP. fuck you Barclays you are the worst fucking bank in England.
lol you were held up at work?
Na i work for tyre company. I do the banking for the depot underneath the office and the Barclays branches have new set up and its fucking terrible. 1 Business till for the whole branch, the only branch in my city i might add. People have no idea how to uses the new set up so you have wasters in the queue, my average wait since it re opened 7 days ago is 30minutes ;_;
Well yeah obviously that system would be bad too, but right now the "best player" could have 15:21 stats, i mean that is pretty stupid if you ask me (the best player right now has 14 wins right?)
Should just be most wins with a % tiebreaker, if you want to do most wins.
But I think an indicator might be a fun way to do it too, just like for the team ranking. The one with the biggest different betweens wins and losses tops the ranking. :p
On April 28 2014 22:36 The_Red_Viper wrote: Well yeah obviously that system would be bad too, but right now the "best player" could have 15:21 stats, i mean that is pretty stupid if you ask me (the best player right now has 14 wins right?)
It's pretty difficult to get 14 or 15 wins with how many opportunities they get. Whoever has the most wins has gotta be playing a lot, as well as ace matches and winning a good % of them. No way a 15-21 record could happen while other ACE players are stuck at records like 14-7.
On April 28 2014 22:36 The_Red_Viper wrote: Well yeah obviously that system would be bad too, but right now the "best player" could have 15:21 stats, i mean that is pretty stupid if you ask me (the best player right now has 14 wins right?)
It's pretty difficult to get 14 or 15 wins with how many opportunities they get. Whoever has the most wins has gotta be playing a lot, as well as ace matches and winning a good % of them. No way a 15-21 record could happen while other ACE players are stuck at records like 14-7.
Well i just mentioned the worst possible result right now (that would be number one though), obviously it isn't very likely, but imo it shows the problem of this system. I mean the best way to get number one is to have a mediocre team that goes to the ace very often. Now you can "farm" wins, you don't even need to win all of them, just around 50%, that isn't really the best player imo :D So yeah, i really dislike the current system.
On April 28 2014 22:36 The_Red_Viper wrote: Well yeah obviously that system would be bad too, but right now the "best player" could have 15:21 stats, i mean that is pretty stupid if you ask me (the best player right now has 14 wins right?)
It's pretty difficult to get 14 or 15 wins with how many opportunities they get. Whoever has the most wins has gotta be playing a lot, as well as ace matches and winning a good % of them. No way a 15-21 record could happen while other ACE players are stuck at records like 14-7.
Well i just mentioned the worst possible result right now (that would be number one though), obviously it isn't very likely, but imo it shows the problem of this system. I mean the best way to get number one is to have a mediocre team that goes to the ace very often. Now you can "farm" wins, you don't even need to win all of them, just around 50%, that isn't really the best player imo :D So yeah, i really dislike the current system.
You should be happy KT is in the top.
Also there's no other possible Top ranking. Maybe an aligulac ? Does it account for game played / % wins etc.. ?
On April 28 2014 22:24 Big J wrote: Those stats... Ty with 13-3, how is that not better than 14-7...
because it's sorted by most wins and not win %
Which is stupid
No because if they take the win % system, that would mean that a guy with 1-0 is #1.
It makes just as much sense if #1 has score of 8-11 while #2 is 7-0 in the current system. Both systems are heavily flawed, they should use the third one.
Well i guess there is no real simple solution, i mean everybody who watches it casually has to understand the ranking instantly^^ So i guess i have to live with it and just be mad that TY isn't number one :D
On April 28 2014 22:24 Big J wrote: Those stats... Ty with 13-3, how is that not better than 14-7...
because it's sorted by most wins and not win %
Which is stupid
No because if they take the win % system, that would mean that a guy with 1-0 is #1.
It makes just as much sense if #1 has score of 8-11 while #2 is 7-0 in the current system. Both systems are heavily flawed, they should use the third one.
Except it's virtually impossible for one mediocre player to play 19 games whilst an unstoppable player only plays 7 (barring some ridiculous rookie breakout - still mathematically there's just no way an 8-11 record can be #1). The best players will get to the top of this ranking over the course of a season just like they always do. If you don't have a good winrate you simply can't amass the number of wins to top this anyway in the long term.
If TY played more ace matches he'd probably be #1. The ranking actually favors ace players (extra opportunity for wins), which is fair enough given their opponents.
considering the small sample size of games and taking into account variance - most wins is more often than not, a better indicator of a player's ability than win-%.
also Flash is apparently a practice bonjwa in the KT house, and that's probably why he gets sent out for ace matches more than TY.
Damn it MKP won in a protoss map against a protoss, thats hurt .. At least hydra wear his super hero tshirt and won the ace, and ofc Bbyong won as well, more points to me.
On April 29 2014 00:35 Yorkie wrote: I guess has herO has officially lost his spot as CJ's ace surprised they sent out Hydra and not Bbyong, maybe because he was fresh
I would guess Creator would've prepared hard for playing against Bbyong - it's fairly likely that the one true hero is suffering from a little bit of a confidence issue right now, so Bbyong would be a better choice, which means he would be the target of a lot of prep, which means Hydra could snipe in peace
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