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lantz
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States762 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-25 18:01:35
April 25 2014 17:57 GMT
#1121
Zest is overrated,

He was bad at IEM NY

I think SoO takes it
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 25 2014 18:15 GMT
#1122
On April 26 2014 02:57 lantz wrote:
Zest is overrated,

He was bad at IEM NY

I think SoO takes it

Yeah i know right, his results 6 months ago just don't allow him to be the favorite now
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
April 25 2014 18:21 GMT
#1123
On April 26 2014 02:57 lantz wrote:
Zest is overrated,

He was bad at IEM NY

I think SoO takes it


Youre supposed to be a bit less obvious when you be sarcastic, but funny none the less.

I think San will shock us again against Parting.

Zest v Parting finals would be nice though, they put on some great PvP the other day.
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
April 25 2014 19:59 GMT
#1124
Maru.
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
April 25 2014 20:08 GMT
#1125
No terran in Ro4 so lame.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
April 25 2014 20:09 GMT
#1126
Alright, I think Zest should have this, unless the SKT Zerg curse somehow doesn't work in this exceptional (as in "doesn't happen that often) tournament.

Otherwise, San got this I think
LiquipediaWanderer
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 25 2014 20:17 GMT
#1127
maru trying his best to kill my passion
aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
April 25 2014 20:36 GMT
#1128
So stoked to see San make it through.

And a Zest vs SoO rematch. Oh yes.
KT best KT ~ 2014
negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
April 25 2014 22:02 GMT
#1129
SAN THE MAN

so sad I didn't get to watch this because my internet died last night ;_;
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-25 22:26:22
April 25 2014 22:14 GMT
#1130
As a MMA fan:

MMA finished 3-4 in maps
Maru finished 3-5 in maps

MMA > Maru
MMA best Terran

+ Show Spoiler +
I am slightly joking
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Clicker
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1012 Posts
April 25 2014 22:18 GMT
#1131
Nice to see an old school sc2 guy like San advance, woo
CutTheEnemy
Profile Joined November 2013
Canada373 Posts
April 25 2014 22:57 GMT
#1132
That was very well played by everyone, but Terran is so doomed until the next batch of patches. They have to do such obnoxious things to even have a 50-50 chance these days of winning.
Can we help spread the word and create pressure to get Rob Pardo to replace Browder as head of Sc2? Pardo led the team for broodwar, frozen throne, and wow/BC. We need to make this a thing before LotV development starts. Think about it.
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
April 25 2014 23:54 GMT
#1133
Are people blaming stuff now for the sake of blaming stuff? Maru chose the 3rd map because the near positions are close. He got the best spawn location because it's very easy for terran to push zerg in their spawn locations. He saw that Soo was on two bases with late 3rd. He knows that if the game goes into mid-game, it's incredibly advantageous for him unlike Frost cross-positions in game 2.
.
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Yet he still didn't bother to check the natural to see if Soo would try to go for some sort of 2-base timing when Soo also understand that it's advantageous for the terran should the game last long.

Just because a terran lost doesn't mean you should blame race imba. A terran losing to all-in due to supreme greed in a situation where he doesn't even need to be greedy is on the player. Maru fucked up and he has no one to blame but himself. All he needed to do was play safe and let his incredible macro/control to take over in mid/late game. But he didn't. And he lost.
Meh
SirPinky
Profile Joined February 2011
United States525 Posts
April 26 2014 01:05 GMT
#1134
On April 26 2014 08:54 baubo wrote:
Are people blaming stuff now for the sake of blaming stuff? Maru chose the 3rd map because the near positions are close. He got the best spawn location because it's very easy for terran to push zerg in their spawn locations. He saw that Soo was on two bases with late 3rd. He knows that if the game goes into mid-game, it's incredibly advantageous for him unlike Frost cross-positions in game 2.
.
.
Yet he still didn't bother to check the natural to see if Soo would try to go for some sort of 2-base timing when Soo also understand that it's advantageous for the terran should the game last long.

Just because a terran lost doesn't mean you should blame race imba. A terran losing to all-in due to supreme greed in a situation where he doesn't even need to be greedy is on the player. Maru fucked up and he has no one to blame but himself. All he needed to do was play safe and let his incredible macro/control to take over in mid/late game. But he didn't. And he lost.


Stop the balance discussion/langauge and enjoy the PvP/PvZ finals...again...and again...and again. There is nothing wrong, you're right, Terran's just make too many mistakes and don't know how to play their race. Please bestow us your GSL progaming wisdom.
How much better to get wisdom than gold; to get insight rather than silver!
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
April 26 2014 01:22 GMT
#1135
On April 26 2014 10:05 SirPinky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2014 08:54 baubo wrote:
Are people blaming stuff now for the sake of blaming stuff? Maru chose the 3rd map because the near positions are close. He got the best spawn location because it's very easy for terran to push zerg in their spawn locations. He saw that Soo was on two bases with late 3rd. He knows that if the game goes into mid-game, it's incredibly advantageous for him unlike Frost cross-positions in game 2.
.
.
Yet he still didn't bother to check the natural to see if Soo would try to go for some sort of 2-base timing when Soo also understand that it's advantageous for the terran should the game last long.

Just because a terran lost doesn't mean you should blame race imba. A terran losing to all-in due to supreme greed in a situation where he doesn't even need to be greedy is on the player. Maru fucked up and he has no one to blame but himself. All he needed to do was play safe and let his incredible macro/control to take over in mid/late game. But he didn't. And he lost.


Stop the balance discussion/langauge and enjoy the PvP/PvZ finals...again...and again...and again. There is nothing wrong, you're right, Terran's just make too many mistakes and don't know how to play their race. Please bestow us your GSL progaming wisdom.


Yes. Because I'm not GM on Korean ladder therefore my opinion's worthless. And everyone else here who complains that Maru lost because of race imba are obviously progamers who knows their stuff.

Maru lost game 2 because Alterzim Stronghold's a ridiculously huge map and with cross-spawns. If you want to blame map imba, so be it. TvZ historically regardless of patching has always been more advantageous to zerg in proportion to distance(you can ask progamers on this and I'm certain they'll agree with me). There's nothing Blizzard can do about that except give terran drop pod ability or something that was in the campaigns.

But I dare you to find me a terran progamer who can claim that TvZ on Frost with horizontal spawn positions is imba towards zerg and terran can't win on it.
Meh
SirPinky
Profile Joined February 2011
United States525 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-26 01:36:54
April 26 2014 01:34 GMT
#1136
On April 26 2014 10:22 baubo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2014 10:05 SirPinky wrote:
On April 26 2014 08:54 baubo wrote:
Are people blaming stuff now for the sake of blaming stuff? Maru chose the 3rd map because the near positions are close. He got the best spawn location because it's very easy for terran to push zerg in their spawn locations. He saw that Soo was on two bases with late 3rd. He knows that if the game goes into mid-game, it's incredibly advantageous for him unlike Frost cross-positions in game 2.
.
.
Yet he still didn't bother to check the natural to see if Soo would try to go for some sort of 2-base timing when Soo also understand that it's advantageous for the terran should the game last long.

Just because a terran lost doesn't mean you should blame race imba. A terran losing to all-in due to supreme greed in a situation where he doesn't even need to be greedy is on the player. Maru fucked up and he has no one to blame but himself. All he needed to do was play safe and let his incredible macro/control to take over in mid/late game. But he didn't. And he lost.


Stop the balance discussion/langauge and enjoy the PvP/PvZ finals...again...and again...and again. There is nothing wrong, you're right, Terran's just make too many mistakes and don't know how to play their race. Please bestow us your GSL progaming wisdom.


Yes. Because I'm not GM on Korean ladder therefore my opinion's worthless. And everyone else here who complains that Maru lost because of race imba are obviously progamers who knows their stuff.

Maru lost game 2 because Alterzim Stronghold's a ridiculously huge map and with cross-spawns. If you want to blame map imba, so be it. TvZ historically regardless of patching has always been more advantageous to zerg in proportion to distance(you can ask progamers on this and I'm certain they'll agree with me). There's nothing Blizzard can do about that except give terran drop pod ability or something that was in the campaigns.

But I dare you to find me a terran progamer who can claim that TvZ on Frost with horizontal spawn positions is imba towards zerg and terran can't win on it.


I don't disagree with you I think the maps this season are very Zerg favored with their size and distance to the 3rd - some taking 5 depots and a bunker to wall-off? Combined with the PvT "issues" I think it speaks to the low presence of Terran. But I think TvZ in is a good state other than the fact I think some builds are too easy and powerful to excute; nonetheless, they can be held with scouting properly.
How much better to get wisdom than gold; to get insight rather than silver!
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
April 26 2014 03:30 GMT
#1137
Maru actually lost? what? well, San being a boss beating both Maru and soO. Truly the dark horse imo!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
April 26 2014 03:40 GMT
#1138
On April 26 2014 07:14 Bagration wrote:
As a MMA fan:

MMA finished 3-4 in maps
Maru finished 3-5 in maps

MMA > Maru
MMA best Terran

+ Show Spoiler +
I am slightly joking


Also beat San who beat Maru.

MMA confirmed best Terran in the world
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 26 2014 03:41 GMT
#1139
On April 26 2014 12:40 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2014 07:14 Bagration wrote:
As a MMA fan:

MMA finished 3-4 in maps
Maru finished 3-5 in maps

MMA > Maru
MMA best Terran

+ Show Spoiler +
I am slightly joking


Also beat San who beat Maru.

MMA confirmed best Terran in the world

gom listed Parting as Terran and he's in the Ro4 so you're both wrong
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