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imo it's between the 3 SKT tosses + herO for best toss atm
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So a TvT finals is still possible huh?
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If we get a tvt finals I will stream myself playing eating my prime uniform, if my internet can handle it
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On February 21 2014 23:26 LibertyRises wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2014 23:12 imrusty269 wrote:On February 21 2014 23:01 LibertyRises wrote:
Polt was playing out of his mind. The thing about Polt and why I believe hes very suited to these weekend tournaments is that he adjusts his build to counter the standard meta. It doesnt look all that different form any other top terrans build but he just deviates from the norm when because he thinks outside the box and it catches players off guard. Building viking instead of medvac here, pushing out when knowing blink is coming there etc etc.
And we do a good job of outing him too because we get giddy and be like OMG DID U SEE THAT TELL UR FRIENDZ
But after awhile toss will figure out this guy does shit differently and he wont be catching them by surprise as much. The bottom line is both Polt and Marus strength lie in their mirco but Maru is more mechanically gifted and ballsy. If polt was in code s with these toss studying him and preparing sniper builds against him i seriously doubt hed have as much success as say maru whos just flat out fast, talented, and ballsy enough to proxy two rax to close a series out lol Polt has always been more succesful in code S than Maru. When Maru became good Polt has switched region. Marus just a kid lets be honest did we expect 14 year old maru to win blizzcon? I have nothing against polt hands down hes the smartest terran playing but in korea especially the way the metas developed how much better players are than they were before i think korean terrans have to be mechanically tip top to compete. and i think polt isnt quite as fast. he makes up for it with his smarts and mirco i dont believe thats enough to to be winning gsls and osl as opposed to winning wcs na. i give it to maru hes doing this at a time when terrans the weakest race out of three in the hardest region and hes not even in his prime as a pro gamer this kid is all sorts of special not to take anything away from polt. i tip my hat to maru that were comparing a sixteen year old kids performances against someone like polt whos proven it all and still managed to be relevant.
Terran was in pretty good shape when Maru won OSL.
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On February 21 2014 23:26 LibertyRises wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2014 23:12 imrusty269 wrote:On February 21 2014 23:01 LibertyRises wrote:
Polt was playing out of his mind. The thing about Polt and why I believe hes very suited to these weekend tournaments is that he adjusts his build to counter the standard meta. It doesnt look all that different form any other top terrans build but he just deviates from the norm when because he thinks outside the box and it catches players off guard. Building viking instead of medvac here, pushing out when knowing blink is coming there etc etc.
And we do a good job of outing him too because we get giddy and be like OMG DID U SEE THAT TELL UR FRIENDZ
But after awhile toss will figure out this guy does shit differently and he wont be catching them by surprise as much. The bottom line is both Polt and Marus strength lie in their mirco but Maru is more mechanically gifted and ballsy. If polt was in code s with these toss studying him and preparing sniper builds against him i seriously doubt hed have as much success as say maru whos just flat out fast, talented, and ballsy enough to proxy two rax to close a series out lol Polt has always been more succesful in code S than Maru. When Maru became good Polt has switched region. Marus just a kid lets be honest did we expect 14 year old maru to win blizzcon? I have nothing against polt hands down hes the smartest terran playing but in korea especially the way the metas developed how much better players are than they were before i think korean terrans have to be mechanically tip top to compete. and i think polt isnt quite as fast. he makes up for it with his smarts and mirco i dont believe thats enough to to be winning gsls and osl as opposed to winning wcs na. i give it to maru hes doing this at a time when terrans the weakest race out of three in the hardest region and hes not even in his prime as a pro gamer this kid is all sorts of special not to take anything away from polt. i tip my hat to maru that were comparing a sixteen year old kids performances against someone like polt whos proven it all and still managed to be relevant.
Polt destroyed Rain, Classic, and Stardust at IEM. His games against HerO were amazing and the series could have gone either way. Polt has no fear of Korean Protosses. Maru is good too, but he's just a kid.
All the men have already left Korea (Bomber, Polt, Taeja, Jajji, MMA, Mvp, Ryung, Heart, aLive, etc.). Watch WCS EU or WCS NA if you want to see the best Terrans. Some of the better Protoss players also migrated, as well as Jaedong and Hyunn. To be honest, WCS Korea might not be the strongest region anymore.
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On February 22 2014 01:04 imrusty269 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2014 23:26 LibertyRises wrote:On February 21 2014 23:12 imrusty269 wrote:On February 21 2014 23:01 LibertyRises wrote:
Polt was playing out of his mind. The thing about Polt and why I believe hes very suited to these weekend tournaments is that he adjusts his build to counter the standard meta. It doesnt look all that different form any other top terrans build but he just deviates from the norm when because he thinks outside the box and it catches players off guard. Building viking instead of medvac here, pushing out when knowing blink is coming there etc etc.
And we do a good job of outing him too because we get giddy and be like OMG DID U SEE THAT TELL UR FRIENDZ
But after awhile toss will figure out this guy does shit differently and he wont be catching them by surprise as much. The bottom line is both Polt and Marus strength lie in their mirco but Maru is more mechanically gifted and ballsy. If polt was in code s with these toss studying him and preparing sniper builds against him i seriously doubt hed have as much success as say maru whos just flat out fast, talented, and ballsy enough to proxy two rax to close a series out lol Polt has always been more succesful in code S than Maru. When Maru became good Polt has switched region. Marus just a kid lets be honest did we expect 14 year old maru to win blizzcon? I have nothing against polt hands down hes the smartest terran playing but in korea especially the way the metas developed how much better players are than they were before i think korean terrans have to be mechanically tip top to compete. and i think polt isnt quite as fast. he makes up for it with his smarts and mirco i dont believe thats enough to to be winning gsls and osl as opposed to winning wcs na. i give it to maru hes doing this at a time when terrans the weakest race out of three in the hardest region and hes not even in his prime as a pro gamer this kid is all sorts of special not to take anything away from polt. i tip my hat to maru that were comparing a sixteen year old kids performances against someone like polt whos proven it all and still managed to be relevant. Terran was in pretty good shape when Maru won OSL.
But relative to the time Polt won I didnt follow the scene as closely as I do now but I hear that time period was the terran golden age. Maru was first terran champion in Korea since MVP two raxed Squirtle in the GSL. In the past TEN gsls and 2 osls since MVP Maru is the only terran champion.
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On February 22 2014 01:43 LibertyRises wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2014 01:04 imrusty269 wrote:On February 21 2014 23:26 LibertyRises wrote:On February 21 2014 23:12 imrusty269 wrote:On February 21 2014 23:01 LibertyRises wrote:
Polt was playing out of his mind. The thing about Polt and why I believe hes very suited to these weekend tournaments is that he adjusts his build to counter the standard meta. It doesnt look all that different form any other top terrans build but he just deviates from the norm when because he thinks outside the box and it catches players off guard. Building viking instead of medvac here, pushing out when knowing blink is coming there etc etc.
And we do a good job of outing him too because we get giddy and be like OMG DID U SEE THAT TELL UR FRIENDZ
But after awhile toss will figure out this guy does shit differently and he wont be catching them by surprise as much. The bottom line is both Polt and Marus strength lie in their mirco but Maru is more mechanically gifted and ballsy. If polt was in code s with these toss studying him and preparing sniper builds against him i seriously doubt hed have as much success as say maru whos just flat out fast, talented, and ballsy enough to proxy two rax to close a series out lol Polt has always been more succesful in code S than Maru. When Maru became good Polt has switched region. Marus just a kid lets be honest did we expect 14 year old maru to win blizzcon? I have nothing against polt hands down hes the smartest terran playing but in korea especially the way the metas developed how much better players are than they were before i think korean terrans have to be mechanically tip top to compete. and i think polt isnt quite as fast. he makes up for it with his smarts and mirco i dont believe thats enough to to be winning gsls and osl as opposed to winning wcs na. i give it to maru hes doing this at a time when terrans the weakest race out of three in the hardest region and hes not even in his prime as a pro gamer this kid is all sorts of special not to take anything away from polt. i tip my hat to maru that were comparing a sixteen year old kids performances against someone like polt whos proven it all and still managed to be relevant. Terran was in pretty good shape when Maru won OSL. But relative to the time Polt won I didnt follow the scene as closely as I do now but I hear that time period was the terran golden age. Maru was first terran champion in Korea since MVP two raxed Squirtle in the GSL. In the past TEN gsls and 2 osls since MVP Maru is the only terran champion.
Mvp only 2 raxed in the last game. He used a lot of cool timings and played macro games too.
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On February 22 2014 01:37 Salient wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2014 23:26 LibertyRises wrote:On February 21 2014 23:12 imrusty269 wrote:On February 21 2014 23:01 LibertyRises wrote:
Polt was playing out of his mind. The thing about Polt and why I believe hes very suited to these weekend tournaments is that he adjusts his build to counter the standard meta. It doesnt look all that different form any other top terrans build but he just deviates from the norm when because he thinks outside the box and it catches players off guard. Building viking instead of medvac here, pushing out when knowing blink is coming there etc etc.
And we do a good job of outing him too because we get giddy and be like OMG DID U SEE THAT TELL UR FRIENDZ
But after awhile toss will figure out this guy does shit differently and he wont be catching them by surprise as much. The bottom line is both Polt and Marus strength lie in their mirco but Maru is more mechanically gifted and ballsy. If polt was in code s with these toss studying him and preparing sniper builds against him i seriously doubt hed have as much success as say maru whos just flat out fast, talented, and ballsy enough to proxy two rax to close a series out lol Polt has always been more succesful in code S than Maru. When Maru became good Polt has switched region. Marus just a kid lets be honest did we expect 14 year old maru to win blizzcon? I have nothing against polt hands down hes the smartest terran playing but in korea especially the way the metas developed how much better players are than they were before i think korean terrans have to be mechanically tip top to compete. and i think polt isnt quite as fast. he makes up for it with his smarts and mirco i dont believe thats enough to to be winning gsls and osl as opposed to winning wcs na. i give it to maru hes doing this at a time when terrans the weakest race out of three in the hardest region and hes not even in his prime as a pro gamer this kid is all sorts of special not to take anything away from polt. i tip my hat to maru that were comparing a sixteen year old kids performances against someone like polt whos proven it all and still managed to be relevant. Polt destroyed Rain, Classic, and Stardust at IEM. His games against HerO were amazing and the series could have gone either way. Polt has no fear of Korean Protosses. Maru is good too, but he's just a kid. All the men have already left Korea (Bomber, Polt, Taeja, Jajji, MMA, Mvp, Ryung, etc.).
Hmm... So Polt 'destroyed' Rain and Classic? They were both 3-2 series and could have gone either way. Polt doesn't fear korean Protosses but if he were to play Rain, Classic tomorrow, it would still be a 50/50.
As for the others you mentioned, I don't think they can compete with the top KR protosses. Jjakji got beat by Rain and Patience. Both Taeja and Bomber have been struggling vs KR toss. MMA, Mvp, Ryung are not at their level.
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On February 22 2014 01:47 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2014 01:37 Salient wrote:On February 21 2014 23:26 LibertyRises wrote:On February 21 2014 23:12 imrusty269 wrote:On February 21 2014 23:01 LibertyRises wrote:
Polt was playing out of his mind. The thing about Polt and why I believe hes very suited to these weekend tournaments is that he adjusts his build to counter the standard meta. It doesnt look all that different form any other top terrans build but he just deviates from the norm when because he thinks outside the box and it catches players off guard. Building viking instead of medvac here, pushing out when knowing blink is coming there etc etc.
And we do a good job of outing him too because we get giddy and be like OMG DID U SEE THAT TELL UR FRIENDZ
But after awhile toss will figure out this guy does shit differently and he wont be catching them by surprise as much. The bottom line is both Polt and Marus strength lie in their mirco but Maru is more mechanically gifted and ballsy. If polt was in code s with these toss studying him and preparing sniper builds against him i seriously doubt hed have as much success as say maru whos just flat out fast, talented, and ballsy enough to proxy two rax to close a series out lol Polt has always been more succesful in code S than Maru. When Maru became good Polt has switched region. Marus just a kid lets be honest did we expect 14 year old maru to win blizzcon? I have nothing against polt hands down hes the smartest terran playing but in korea especially the way the metas developed how much better players are than they were before i think korean terrans have to be mechanically tip top to compete. and i think polt isnt quite as fast. he makes up for it with his smarts and mirco i dont believe thats enough to to be winning gsls and osl as opposed to winning wcs na. i give it to maru hes doing this at a time when terrans the weakest race out of three in the hardest region and hes not even in his prime as a pro gamer this kid is all sorts of special not to take anything away from polt. i tip my hat to maru that were comparing a sixteen year old kids performances against someone like polt whos proven it all and still managed to be relevant. Polt destroyed Rain, Classic, and Stardust at IEM. His games against HerO were amazing and the series could have gone either way. Polt has no fear of Korean Protosses. Maru is good too, but he's just a kid. All the men have already left Korea (Bomber, Polt, Taeja, Jajji, MMA, Mvp, Ryung, etc.). Hmm... So Polt 'destroyed' Rain and Classic? They were both 3-2 series and could have gone either way. Polt doesn't fear korean Protosses but if he were to play Rain, Classic tomorrow, it would still be a 50/50. As for the others you mentioned, I don't think they can compete with the top KR protosses. Jjakji got beat by Rain and Patience. Both Taeja and Bomber have been struggling vs KR toss. MMA, Mvp, Ryung are not at their level.
Never doubt the King.
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On February 22 2014 01:37 Salient wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2014 23:26 LibertyRises wrote:On February 21 2014 23:12 imrusty269 wrote:On February 21 2014 23:01 LibertyRises wrote:
Polt was playing out of his mind. The thing about Polt and why I believe hes very suited to these weekend tournaments is that he adjusts his build to counter the standard meta. It doesnt look all that different form any other top terrans build but he just deviates from the norm when because he thinks outside the box and it catches players off guard. Building viking instead of medvac here, pushing out when knowing blink is coming there etc etc.
And we do a good job of outing him too because we get giddy and be like OMG DID U SEE THAT TELL UR FRIENDZ
But after awhile toss will figure out this guy does shit differently and he wont be catching them by surprise as much. The bottom line is both Polt and Marus strength lie in their mirco but Maru is more mechanically gifted and ballsy. If polt was in code s with these toss studying him and preparing sniper builds against him i seriously doubt hed have as much success as say maru whos just flat out fast, talented, and ballsy enough to proxy two rax to close a series out lol Polt has always been more succesful in code S than Maru. When Maru became good Polt has switched region. Marus just a kid lets be honest did we expect 14 year old maru to win blizzcon? I have nothing against polt hands down hes the smartest terran playing but in korea especially the way the metas developed how much better players are than they were before i think korean terrans have to be mechanically tip top to compete. and i think polt isnt quite as fast. he makes up for it with his smarts and mirco i dont believe thats enough to to be winning gsls and osl as opposed to winning wcs na. i give it to maru hes doing this at a time when terrans the weakest race out of three in the hardest region and hes not even in his prime as a pro gamer this kid is all sorts of special not to take anything away from polt. i tip my hat to maru that were comparing a sixteen year old kids performances against someone like polt whos proven it all and still managed to be relevant. Polt destroyed Rain, Classic, and Stardust at IEM. His games against HerO were amazing and the series could have gone either way. Polt has no fear of Korean Protosses. Maru is good too, but he's just a kid. All the men have already left Korea (Bomber, Polt, Taeja, Jajji, MMA, Mvp, Ryung, Heart, aLive, etc.). Watch WCS EU or WCS NA if you want to see the best Terrans. Some of the better Protoss players also migrated, as well as Jaedong and Hyunn. To be honest, WCS Korea might not be the strongest region anymore.
Are you seriously? On average from 1-32, you really trying to argue EU and NA is stronger?
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On February 22 2014 01:48 Salient wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2014 01:47 vthree wrote:On February 22 2014 01:37 Salient wrote:On February 21 2014 23:26 LibertyRises wrote:On February 21 2014 23:12 imrusty269 wrote:On February 21 2014 23:01 LibertyRises wrote:
Polt was playing out of his mind. The thing about Polt and why I believe hes very suited to these weekend tournaments is that he adjusts his build to counter the standard meta. It doesnt look all that different form any other top terrans build but he just deviates from the norm when because he thinks outside the box and it catches players off guard. Building viking instead of medvac here, pushing out when knowing blink is coming there etc etc.
And we do a good job of outing him too because we get giddy and be like OMG DID U SEE THAT TELL UR FRIENDZ
But after awhile toss will figure out this guy does shit differently and he wont be catching them by surprise as much. The bottom line is both Polt and Marus strength lie in their mirco but Maru is more mechanically gifted and ballsy. If polt was in code s with these toss studying him and preparing sniper builds against him i seriously doubt hed have as much success as say maru whos just flat out fast, talented, and ballsy enough to proxy two rax to close a series out lol Polt has always been more succesful in code S than Maru. When Maru became good Polt has switched region. Marus just a kid lets be honest did we expect 14 year old maru to win blizzcon? I have nothing against polt hands down hes the smartest terran playing but in korea especially the way the metas developed how much better players are than they were before i think korean terrans have to be mechanically tip top to compete. and i think polt isnt quite as fast. he makes up for it with his smarts and mirco i dont believe thats enough to to be winning gsls and osl as opposed to winning wcs na. i give it to maru hes doing this at a time when terrans the weakest race out of three in the hardest region and hes not even in his prime as a pro gamer this kid is all sorts of special not to take anything away from polt. i tip my hat to maru that were comparing a sixteen year old kids performances against someone like polt whos proven it all and still managed to be relevant. Polt destroyed Rain, Classic, and Stardust at IEM. His games against HerO were amazing and the series could have gone either way. Polt has no fear of Korean Protosses. Maru is good too, but he's just a kid. All the men have already left Korea (Bomber, Polt, Taeja, Jajji, MMA, Mvp, Ryung, etc.). Hmm... So Polt 'destroyed' Rain and Classic? They were both 3-2 series and could have gone either way. Polt doesn't fear korean Protosses but if he were to play Rain, Classic tomorrow, it would still be a 50/50. As for the others you mentioned, I don't think they can compete with the top KR protosses. Jjakji got beat by Rain and Patience. Both Taeja and Bomber have been struggling vs KR toss. MMA, Mvp, Ryung are not at their level. Never doubt the King.
Big Mvp fan here. But if Mvp was crushing Protoss in practice, he would get more play time in PL.
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On February 22 2014 01:37 Salient wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2014 23:26 LibertyRises wrote:On February 21 2014 23:12 imrusty269 wrote:On February 21 2014 23:01 LibertyRises wrote:
Polt was playing out of his mind. The thing about Polt and why I believe hes very suited to these weekend tournaments is that he adjusts his build to counter the standard meta. It doesnt look all that different form any other top terrans build but he just deviates from the norm when because he thinks outside the box and it catches players off guard. Building viking instead of medvac here, pushing out when knowing blink is coming there etc etc.
And we do a good job of outing him too because we get giddy and be like OMG DID U SEE THAT TELL UR FRIENDZ
But after awhile toss will figure out this guy does shit differently and he wont be catching them by surprise as much. The bottom line is both Polt and Marus strength lie in their mirco but Maru is more mechanically gifted and ballsy. If polt was in code s with these toss studying him and preparing sniper builds against him i seriously doubt hed have as much success as say maru whos just flat out fast, talented, and ballsy enough to proxy two rax to close a series out lol Polt has always been more succesful in code S than Maru. When Maru became good Polt has switched region. Marus just a kid lets be honest did we expect 14 year old maru to win blizzcon? I have nothing against polt hands down hes the smartest terran playing but in korea especially the way the metas developed how much better players are than they were before i think korean terrans have to be mechanically tip top to compete. and i think polt isnt quite as fast. he makes up for it with his smarts and mirco i dont believe thats enough to to be winning gsls and osl as opposed to winning wcs na. i give it to maru hes doing this at a time when terrans the weakest race out of three in the hardest region and hes not even in his prime as a pro gamer this kid is all sorts of special not to take anything away from polt. i tip my hat to maru that were comparing a sixteen year old kids performances against someone like polt whos proven it all and still managed to be relevant. Polt destroyed Rain, Classic, and Stardust at IEM. His games against HerO were amazing and the series could have gone either way. Polt has no fear of Korean Protosses. Maru is good too, but he's just a kid. All the men have already left Korea (Bomber, Polt, Taeja, Jajji, MMA, Mvp, Ryung, Heart, aLive, etc.). Watch WCS EU or WCS NA if you want to see the best Terrans. Some of the best Protoss players also migrated, as well as Jaedong and Hyunn. To be honest, WCS Korea might not be the strongest region anymore.
Im pretty sure most of those guys left because it was easier elsewhere and they werent performing up to expectations. So they did the logical thing and went to other regions where they felt they could perform well enough. Korea is where nerds go to die. Europe and America is where nerds go to live.
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On February 22 2014 01:51 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2014 01:37 Salient wrote:On February 21 2014 23:26 LibertyRises wrote:On February 21 2014 23:12 imrusty269 wrote:On February 21 2014 23:01 LibertyRises wrote:
Polt was playing out of his mind. The thing about Polt and why I believe hes very suited to these weekend tournaments is that he adjusts his build to counter the standard meta. It doesnt look all that different form any other top terrans build but he just deviates from the norm when because he thinks outside the box and it catches players off guard. Building viking instead of medvac here, pushing out when knowing blink is coming there etc etc.
And we do a good job of outing him too because we get giddy and be like OMG DID U SEE THAT TELL UR FRIENDZ
But after awhile toss will figure out this guy does shit differently and he wont be catching them by surprise as much. The bottom line is both Polt and Marus strength lie in their mirco but Maru is more mechanically gifted and ballsy. If polt was in code s with these toss studying him and preparing sniper builds against him i seriously doubt hed have as much success as say maru whos just flat out fast, talented, and ballsy enough to proxy two rax to close a series out lol Polt has always been more succesful in code S than Maru. When Maru became good Polt has switched region. Marus just a kid lets be honest did we expect 14 year old maru to win blizzcon? I have nothing against polt hands down hes the smartest terran playing but in korea especially the way the metas developed how much better players are than they were before i think korean terrans have to be mechanically tip top to compete. and i think polt isnt quite as fast. he makes up for it with his smarts and mirco i dont believe thats enough to to be winning gsls and osl as opposed to winning wcs na. i give it to maru hes doing this at a time when terrans the weakest race out of three in the hardest region and hes not even in his prime as a pro gamer this kid is all sorts of special not to take anything away from polt. i tip my hat to maru that were comparing a sixteen year old kids performances against someone like polt whos proven it all and still managed to be relevant. Polt destroyed Rain, Classic, and Stardust at IEM. His games against HerO were amazing and the series could have gone either way. Polt has no fear of Korean Protosses. Maru is good too, but he's just a kid. All the men have already left Korea (Bomber, Polt, Taeja, Jajji, MMA, Mvp, Ryung, Heart, aLive, etc.). Watch WCS EU or WCS NA if you want to see the best Terrans. Some of the better Protoss players also migrated, as well as Jaedong and Hyunn. To be honest, WCS Korea might not be the strongest region anymore. Are you seriously? On average from 1-32, you really trying to argue EU and NA is stronger?
Not the whole thing, just the cream of the crop. WCS KR is definitely the highest average skill, but maybe the best players in other regions may be better than the best players in WCS KR -- due to migration. All those guys I mentioned were champions before they migrated. If you keep stealing all the champions, eventually the quality of WCS KR is bound to be lower. For example, Dear won the last GSL, and now plays for a European team. It wouldn't be very surprising if he were to switch to WCS EU at some point.
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On February 22 2014 01:54 LibertyRises wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2014 01:37 Salient wrote:On February 21 2014 23:26 LibertyRises wrote:On February 21 2014 23:12 imrusty269 wrote:On February 21 2014 23:01 LibertyRises wrote:
Polt was playing out of his mind. The thing about Polt and why I believe hes very suited to these weekend tournaments is that he adjusts his build to counter the standard meta. It doesnt look all that different form any other top terrans build but he just deviates from the norm when because he thinks outside the box and it catches players off guard. Building viking instead of medvac here, pushing out when knowing blink is coming there etc etc.
And we do a good job of outing him too because we get giddy and be like OMG DID U SEE THAT TELL UR FRIENDZ
But after awhile toss will figure out this guy does shit differently and he wont be catching them by surprise as much. The bottom line is both Polt and Marus strength lie in their mirco but Maru is more mechanically gifted and ballsy. If polt was in code s with these toss studying him and preparing sniper builds against him i seriously doubt hed have as much success as say maru whos just flat out fast, talented, and ballsy enough to proxy two rax to close a series out lol Polt has always been more succesful in code S than Maru. When Maru became good Polt has switched region. Marus just a kid lets be honest did we expect 14 year old maru to win blizzcon? I have nothing against polt hands down hes the smartest terran playing but in korea especially the way the metas developed how much better players are than they were before i think korean terrans have to be mechanically tip top to compete. and i think polt isnt quite as fast. he makes up for it with his smarts and mirco i dont believe thats enough to to be winning gsls and osl as opposed to winning wcs na. i give it to maru hes doing this at a time when terrans the weakest race out of three in the hardest region and hes not even in his prime as a pro gamer this kid is all sorts of special not to take anything away from polt. i tip my hat to maru that were comparing a sixteen year old kids performances against someone like polt whos proven it all and still managed to be relevant. Polt destroyed Rain, Classic, and Stardust at IEM. His games against HerO were amazing and the series could have gone either way. Polt has no fear of Korean Protosses. Maru is good too, but he's just a kid. All the men have already left Korea (Bomber, Polt, Taeja, Jajji, MMA, Mvp, Ryung, Heart, aLive, etc.). Watch WCS EU or WCS NA if you want to see the best Terrans. Some of the best Protoss players also migrated, as well as Jaedong and Hyunn. To be honest, WCS Korea might not be the strongest region anymore. Im pretty sure most of those guys left because it was easier elsewhere and they werent performing up to expectations. So they did the logical thing and went to other regions where they felt they could perform well enough. Korea is where nerds go to die. Europe and America is where nerds go to live.
Many of them left because they had established sufficient reputations to command lots of foreign money! Just look at Innovation. He left shortly after he was hailed as the best player in the world. I'm sure his contract with Acer is more lucrative for him than whatever he could get in Korea. Others left because they had the means to travel and viewed the other regions as an easier place to make money. It's all about the money in the end.
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On February 22 2014 01:55 Salient wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2014 01:51 vthree wrote:On February 22 2014 01:37 Salient wrote:On February 21 2014 23:26 LibertyRises wrote:On February 21 2014 23:12 imrusty269 wrote:On February 21 2014 23:01 LibertyRises wrote:
Polt was playing out of his mind. The thing about Polt and why I believe hes very suited to these weekend tournaments is that he adjusts his build to counter the standard meta. It doesnt look all that different form any other top terrans build but he just deviates from the norm when because he thinks outside the box and it catches players off guard. Building viking instead of medvac here, pushing out when knowing blink is coming there etc etc.
And we do a good job of outing him too because we get giddy and be like OMG DID U SEE THAT TELL UR FRIENDZ
But after awhile toss will figure out this guy does shit differently and he wont be catching them by surprise as much. The bottom line is both Polt and Marus strength lie in their mirco but Maru is more mechanically gifted and ballsy. If polt was in code s with these toss studying him and preparing sniper builds against him i seriously doubt hed have as much success as say maru whos just flat out fast, talented, and ballsy enough to proxy two rax to close a series out lol Polt has always been more succesful in code S than Maru. When Maru became good Polt has switched region. Marus just a kid lets be honest did we expect 14 year old maru to win blizzcon? I have nothing against polt hands down hes the smartest terran playing but in korea especially the way the metas developed how much better players are than they were before i think korean terrans have to be mechanically tip top to compete. and i think polt isnt quite as fast. he makes up for it with his smarts and mirco i dont believe thats enough to to be winning gsls and osl as opposed to winning wcs na. i give it to maru hes doing this at a time when terrans the weakest race out of three in the hardest region and hes not even in his prime as a pro gamer this kid is all sorts of special not to take anything away from polt. i tip my hat to maru that were comparing a sixteen year old kids performances against someone like polt whos proven it all and still managed to be relevant. Polt destroyed Rain, Classic, and Stardust at IEM. His games against HerO were amazing and the series could have gone either way. Polt has no fear of Korean Protosses. Maru is good too, but he's just a kid. All the men have already left Korea (Bomber, Polt, Taeja, Jajji, MMA, Mvp, Ryung, Heart, aLive, etc.). Watch WCS EU or WCS NA if you want to see the best Terrans. Some of the better Protoss players also migrated, as well as Jaedong and Hyunn. To be honest, WCS Korea might not be the strongest region anymore. Are you seriously? On average from 1-32, you really trying to argue EU and NA is stronger? Not the whole thing, just the cream of the crop. WCS KR is definitely the highest average skill, but maybe the best players in other regions may be better than the best players in WCS KR -- due to migration. All those guys I mentioned were champions before they migrated. If you keep stealing all the champions, eventually the quality of WCS KR is bound to be lower. For example, Dear won the last GSL, and now plays for a European team. It wouldn't be very surprising if he were to switch to WCS EU at some point.
When you talk about the strength of the region, you have to take the average of the top 32. Top 8 NA/EU is definitely competitive with Top 8 KR but KR still has the edge. And below that, there is a huge gap.
But you can't just take the top because that would be saying that Switzerland was the strongest country in tennis just because Federer was ranked #1.
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On February 22 2014 02:01 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2014 01:55 Salient wrote:On February 22 2014 01:51 vthree wrote:On February 22 2014 01:37 Salient wrote:On February 21 2014 23:26 LibertyRises wrote:On February 21 2014 23:12 imrusty269 wrote:On February 21 2014 23:01 LibertyRises wrote:
Polt was playing out of his mind. The thing about Polt and why I believe hes very suited to these weekend tournaments is that he adjusts his build to counter the standard meta. It doesnt look all that different form any other top terrans build but he just deviates from the norm when because he thinks outside the box and it catches players off guard. Building viking instead of medvac here, pushing out when knowing blink is coming there etc etc.
And we do a good job of outing him too because we get giddy and be like OMG DID U SEE THAT TELL UR FRIENDZ
But after awhile toss will figure out this guy does shit differently and he wont be catching them by surprise as much. The bottom line is both Polt and Marus strength lie in their mirco but Maru is more mechanically gifted and ballsy. If polt was in code s with these toss studying him and preparing sniper builds against him i seriously doubt hed have as much success as say maru whos just flat out fast, talented, and ballsy enough to proxy two rax to close a series out lol Polt has always been more succesful in code S than Maru. When Maru became good Polt has switched region. Marus just a kid lets be honest did we expect 14 year old maru to win blizzcon? I have nothing against polt hands down hes the smartest terran playing but in korea especially the way the metas developed how much better players are than they were before i think korean terrans have to be mechanically tip top to compete. and i think polt isnt quite as fast. he makes up for it with his smarts and mirco i dont believe thats enough to to be winning gsls and osl as opposed to winning wcs na. i give it to maru hes doing this at a time when terrans the weakest race out of three in the hardest region and hes not even in his prime as a pro gamer this kid is all sorts of special not to take anything away from polt. i tip my hat to maru that were comparing a sixteen year old kids performances against someone like polt whos proven it all and still managed to be relevant. Polt destroyed Rain, Classic, and Stardust at IEM. His games against HerO were amazing and the series could have gone either way. Polt has no fear of Korean Protosses. Maru is good too, but he's just a kid. All the men have already left Korea (Bomber, Polt, Taeja, Jajji, MMA, Mvp, Ryung, Heart, aLive, etc.). Watch WCS EU or WCS NA if you want to see the best Terrans. Some of the better Protoss players also migrated, as well as Jaedong and Hyunn. To be honest, WCS Korea might not be the strongest region anymore. Are you seriously? On average from 1-32, you really trying to argue EU and NA is stronger? Not the whole thing, just the cream of the crop. WCS KR is definitely the highest average skill, but maybe the best players in other regions may be better than the best players in WCS KR -- due to migration. All those guys I mentioned were champions before they migrated. If you keep stealing all the champions, eventually the quality of WCS KR is bound to be lower. For example, Dear won the last GSL, and now plays for a European team. It wouldn't be very surprising if he were to switch to WCS EU at some point. When you talk about the strength of the region, you have to take the average of the top 32. Top 8 NA/EU is definitely competitive with Top 8 KR but KR still has the edge. And below that, there is a huge gap. But you can't just take the top because that would be saying that Switzerland was the strongest country in tennis just because Federer was ranked #1.
I'm saying the other regions are more likely to produce the Global Champion, regardless of the average skill of the top 32.
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On February 22 2014 01:55 Salient wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2014 01:51 vthree wrote:On February 22 2014 01:37 Salient wrote:On February 21 2014 23:26 LibertyRises wrote:On February 21 2014 23:12 imrusty269 wrote:On February 21 2014 23:01 LibertyRises wrote:
Polt was playing out of his mind. The thing about Polt and why I believe hes very suited to these weekend tournaments is that he adjusts his build to counter the standard meta. It doesnt look all that different form any other top terrans build but he just deviates from the norm when because he thinks outside the box and it catches players off guard. Building viking instead of medvac here, pushing out when knowing blink is coming there etc etc.
And we do a good job of outing him too because we get giddy and be like OMG DID U SEE THAT TELL UR FRIENDZ
But after awhile toss will figure out this guy does shit differently and he wont be catching them by surprise as much. The bottom line is both Polt and Marus strength lie in their mirco but Maru is more mechanically gifted and ballsy. If polt was in code s with these toss studying him and preparing sniper builds against him i seriously doubt hed have as much success as say maru whos just flat out fast, talented, and ballsy enough to proxy two rax to close a series out lol Polt has always been more succesful in code S than Maru. When Maru became good Polt has switched region. Marus just a kid lets be honest did we expect 14 year old maru to win blizzcon? I have nothing against polt hands down hes the smartest terran playing but in korea especially the way the metas developed how much better players are than they were before i think korean terrans have to be mechanically tip top to compete. and i think polt isnt quite as fast. he makes up for it with his smarts and mirco i dont believe thats enough to to be winning gsls and osl as opposed to winning wcs na. i give it to maru hes doing this at a time when terrans the weakest race out of three in the hardest region and hes not even in his prime as a pro gamer this kid is all sorts of special not to take anything away from polt. i tip my hat to maru that were comparing a sixteen year old kids performances against someone like polt whos proven it all and still managed to be relevant. Polt destroyed Rain, Classic, and Stardust at IEM. His games against HerO were amazing and the series could have gone either way. Polt has no fear of Korean Protosses. Maru is good too, but he's just a kid. All the men have already left Korea (Bomber, Polt, Taeja, Jajji, MMA, Mvp, Ryung, Heart, aLive, etc.). Watch WCS EU or WCS NA if you want to see the best Terrans. Some of the better Protoss players also migrated, as well as Jaedong and Hyunn. To be honest, WCS Korea might not be the strongest region anymore. Are you seriously? On average from 1-32, you really trying to argue EU and NA is stronger? Not the whole thing, just the cream of the crop. WCS KR is definitely the highest average skill, but maybe the best players in other regions may be better than the best players in WCS KR -- due to migration. All those guys I mentioned were champions before they migrated. If you keep stealing all the champions, eventually the quality of WCS KR is bound to be lower. For example, Dear won the last GSL, and now plays for a European team. It wouldn't be very surprising if he were to switch to WCS EU at some point.
KESPA alone means its harder than ever and thats why the old guard left because they werent the big dogs on the block anymore. Shit got real when the BW guys came over.
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On February 22 2014 01:47 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2014 01:37 Salient wrote:On February 21 2014 23:26 LibertyRises wrote:On February 21 2014 23:12 imrusty269 wrote:On February 21 2014 23:01 LibertyRises wrote:
Polt was playing out of his mind. The thing about Polt and why I believe hes very suited to these weekend tournaments is that he adjusts his build to counter the standard meta. It doesnt look all that different form any other top terrans build but he just deviates from the norm when because he thinks outside the box and it catches players off guard. Building viking instead of medvac here, pushing out when knowing blink is coming there etc etc.
And we do a good job of outing him too because we get giddy and be like OMG DID U SEE THAT TELL UR FRIENDZ
But after awhile toss will figure out this guy does shit differently and he wont be catching them by surprise as much. The bottom line is both Polt and Marus strength lie in their mirco but Maru is more mechanically gifted and ballsy. If polt was in code s with these toss studying him and preparing sniper builds against him i seriously doubt hed have as much success as say maru whos just flat out fast, talented, and ballsy enough to proxy two rax to close a series out lol Polt has always been more succesful in code S than Maru. When Maru became good Polt has switched region. Marus just a kid lets be honest did we expect 14 year old maru to win blizzcon? I have nothing against polt hands down hes the smartest terran playing but in korea especially the way the metas developed how much better players are than they were before i think korean terrans have to be mechanically tip top to compete. and i think polt isnt quite as fast. he makes up for it with his smarts and mirco i dont believe thats enough to to be winning gsls and osl as opposed to winning wcs na. i give it to maru hes doing this at a time when terrans the weakest race out of three in the hardest region and hes not even in his prime as a pro gamer this kid is all sorts of special not to take anything away from polt. i tip my hat to maru that were comparing a sixteen year old kids performances against someone like polt whos proven it all and still managed to be relevant. Polt destroyed Rain, Classic, and Stardust at IEM. His games against HerO were amazing and the series could have gone either way. Polt has no fear of Korean Protosses. Maru is good too, but he's just a kid. All the men have already left Korea (Bomber, Polt, Taeja, Jajji, MMA, Mvp, Ryung, etc.). Hmm... So Polt 'destroyed' Rain and Classic? They were both 3-2 series and could have gone either way. Polt doesn't fear korean Protosses but if he were to play Rain, Classic tomorrow, it would still be a 50/50. As for the others you mentioned, I don't think they can compete with the top KR protosses. Jjakji got beat by Rain and Patience. Both Taeja and Bomber have been struggling vs KR toss. MMA, Mvp, Ryung are not at their level.
Talked about patience. I hope a patch go through soon and put him back in his place. Very BM guy.
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On February 22 2014 02:02 Salient wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2014 02:01 vthree wrote:On February 22 2014 01:55 Salient wrote:On February 22 2014 01:51 vthree wrote:On February 22 2014 01:37 Salient wrote:On February 21 2014 23:26 LibertyRises wrote:On February 21 2014 23:12 imrusty269 wrote:On February 21 2014 23:01 LibertyRises wrote:
Polt was playing out of his mind. The thing about Polt and why I believe hes very suited to these weekend tournaments is that he adjusts his build to counter the standard meta. It doesnt look all that different form any other top terrans build but he just deviates from the norm when because he thinks outside the box and it catches players off guard. Building viking instead of medvac here, pushing out when knowing blink is coming there etc etc.
And we do a good job of outing him too because we get giddy and be like OMG DID U SEE THAT TELL UR FRIENDZ
But after awhile toss will figure out this guy does shit differently and he wont be catching them by surprise as much. The bottom line is both Polt and Marus strength lie in their mirco but Maru is more mechanically gifted and ballsy. If polt was in code s with these toss studying him and preparing sniper builds against him i seriously doubt hed have as much success as say maru whos just flat out fast, talented, and ballsy enough to proxy two rax to close a series out lol Polt has always been more succesful in code S than Maru. When Maru became good Polt has switched region. Marus just a kid lets be honest did we expect 14 year old maru to win blizzcon? I have nothing against polt hands down hes the smartest terran playing but in korea especially the way the metas developed how much better players are than they were before i think korean terrans have to be mechanically tip top to compete. and i think polt isnt quite as fast. he makes up for it with his smarts and mirco i dont believe thats enough to to be winning gsls and osl as opposed to winning wcs na. i give it to maru hes doing this at a time when terrans the weakest race out of three in the hardest region and hes not even in his prime as a pro gamer this kid is all sorts of special not to take anything away from polt. i tip my hat to maru that were comparing a sixteen year old kids performances against someone like polt whos proven it all and still managed to be relevant. Polt destroyed Rain, Classic, and Stardust at IEM. His games against HerO were amazing and the series could have gone either way. Polt has no fear of Korean Protosses. Maru is good too, but he's just a kid. All the men have already left Korea (Bomber, Polt, Taeja, Jajji, MMA, Mvp, Ryung, Heart, aLive, etc.). Watch WCS EU or WCS NA if you want to see the best Terrans. Some of the better Protoss players also migrated, as well as Jaedong and Hyunn. To be honest, WCS Korea might not be the strongest region anymore. Are you seriously? On average from 1-32, you really trying to argue EU and NA is stronger? Not the whole thing, just the cream of the crop. WCS KR is definitely the highest average skill, but maybe the best players in other regions may be better than the best players in WCS KR -- due to migration. All those guys I mentioned were champions before they migrated. If you keep stealing all the champions, eventually the quality of WCS KR is bound to be lower. For example, Dear won the last GSL, and now plays for a European team. It wouldn't be very surprising if he were to switch to WCS EU at some point. When you talk about the strength of the region, you have to take the average of the top 32. Top 8 NA/EU is definitely competitive with Top 8 KR but KR still has the edge. And below that, there is a huge gap. But you can't just take the top because that would be saying that Switzerland was the strongest country in tennis just because Federer was ranked #1. I'm saying the other regions are more likely to produce the Global Champion, regardless of the average skill of the top 32.
You said 'To be honest, WCS Korea might not be the strongest region anymore.'... Also, didn't KR swept all 4 finals last year? The only big moves were a Jjakji and Bomber. So no, KR still has the best chance to produce the Global Champion.
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