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[IEM] Cologne Day 4 - Ro8, Ro4 and Grand Finals - Page 314

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Okay calm down folks, stop balance whining or the bans are going to get long.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
February 16 2014 22:21 GMT
#6261
On February 17 2014 07:20 Caladan wrote:
lol, look at the viewer numbers.
Half an hour ago - 78.000 watching Jaedong.
Now grand finals and 64.000 watching. :D

No comment.

Whoever said that Jaedong commands an army of devoted fans was apparently right, lol
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
jakethesnake
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada4948 Posts
February 16 2014 22:21 GMT
#6262
How on earth did HerO figure that out?
Community Newsjjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji nshoseo.jpg
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24592 Posts
February 16 2014 22:21 GMT
#6263
Sweet move Hero < 3
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16109 Posts
February 16 2014 22:21 GMT
#6264
Not sure if map hacking or star sense.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
February 16 2014 22:21 GMT
#6265
HerO with the maphacks
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
noneforall
Profile Joined July 2013
125 Posts
February 16 2014 22:21 GMT
#6266
lol, how?
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 16 2014 22:21 GMT
#6267
On February 17 2014 07:20 Caladan wrote:
lol, look at the viewer numbers.
Half an hour ago - 78.000 watching Jaedong.
Now grand finals and 64.000 watching. :D

No comment.

That was a comment.
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raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
February 16 2014 22:21 GMT
#6268
Well i am not really a big Polt fan , but for the sake of more terrans i'll root for him , now that Jaedong is out . Hope he doesn't go full foreigner like Innovation did .
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
February 16 2014 22:21 GMT
#6269
On February 17 2014 07:17 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 07:17 stuchiu wrote:
Polt is not a knight.

He's a General.

[image loading]

you make that or stealborrow it?


Stole it.
Moderator
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
February 16 2014 22:21 GMT
#6270
protoss can even maphack

or is hero actually that good?
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
February 16 2014 22:21 GMT
#6271
such cheesy stalker positioning from hero
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 16 2014 22:21 GMT
#6272
On February 17 2014 07:20 Caladan wrote:
lol, look at the viewer numbers.
Half an hour ago - 78.000 watching Jaedong.
Now grand finals and 64.000 watching. :D

No comment.


And now 66,300

Oh wow, I guess viewer counts go down in breaks!
AdministratorBreak the chains
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
February 16 2014 22:22 GMT
#6273
I agree with NarutO. Yes that last game can cause severe butt-hurt and as a big JD can it's whatever no point in ranting on and on. HerO microed superbly at the end of the day, forces, prisms, and all.

IEM has been the best SC2 content I've watched all year, as I'm sure it has been for a lot of others. To top it all off, we're still NOT done! Grand finals baby.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24592 Posts
February 16 2014 22:22 GMT
#6274
Omg is he preparing that collapsible rock tower for later?
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
February 16 2014 22:22 GMT
#6275
On February 17 2014 07:19 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 07:17 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:17 stuchiu wrote:
Polt is not a knight.

He's a General.

[image loading]

you make that or stealborrow it?


I've had that in my sc2 folder for like a year


7 months. That's like two years.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 16 2014 22:22 GMT
#6276
On February 17 2014 07:20 Caladan wrote:
lol, look at the viewer numbers.
Half an hour ago - 78.000 watching Jaedong.
Now grand finals and 64.000 watching. :D

No comment.

there's always a dip lol don't read into this
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Soohyung
Profile Joined April 2012
Korea (South)116 Posts
February 16 2014 22:22 GMT
#6277
On February 17 2014 07:20 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 07:17 Squat wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:10 Darkhorse wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:09 Squat wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:00 redviper wrote:
On February 17 2014 06:55 robson1 wrote:
On February 17 2014 06:53 Squat wrote:
It is absolutely baffling that JD still has not figured out that zerg is never supposed to be aggressive when ahead, unless you have already won. If he just falls back, makes some drones and masses hydras, hero has zero chance of winning. Again, his over-aggression kills him. And he never learns.

Fuck everything, I'll go drink some battery acid now or something.


Lol. JD is so terrible with his consistent top 4 finishes. He never learns how to play decently. Must be hard to be butthurt all the time.


I'll never understand this devotion that people bring over for JD from BW days.
Lets list all the tournaments JD has won shall we.

Asus ROG
Numericable M-House Cup
HyperX 10 year anniversary.
Its pretty lol worthy to compare him to HerO.

WCS NA S1
NASL S4
DH Winter
DH Winter
IPL Fight club
MLG Summer quals
IPL Season 3 qual 1.
FXOpen Invite

Not to mention that HerO actually plays in PL and Jaedong plays in .. well nothing really. Not even GSTL.




JD was a Brood War legend. Without people like him, this game, this tournament, this website would not exist. Hate all you want but players like JD built this fucking scene with their hard work in a cramped apartment for shit pay over years and years.

People respect him because he's fucking earned it. People like him because of what he's done, and for the awesome memories he's given them. Unless you were there, you will never understand.

That guy is an idiot for shitting on JD, but seriously you are going to far with the whine today.

Who is whining? I never even mentioned balance in this thread once. I was angry and disappointed that my biggest idol lost in a really stupid way. I thought he played poorly. Get off your high horse, being pretentious doesn't suit you.

neither does it suit you lol

You really don't deserve your quality poster icon, I hope they will take it away from you.

Either way, it's quite sad that JD vs HerO took away the hype from the Grand Final. I hope Polt vs HerO is going to be a good match.
이지은
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
February 16 2014 22:22 GMT
#6278
On February 17 2014 07:19 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 07:15 KelsierSC wrote:
Grand Final

(T)Polt vs (P)HerO


Game 1 - Heavy Rain LE

00:00 Polt Spawns Bottom, Hero Spawns Top


01:00 Fuck I don't know PvT, ah well, get ready for some shit
rax opening for Polt
gateway for Hero

02:00 Gas for Polt
and 2 gases for Hero
just chilling out man, looking good

03:00
Reaper for Polt and an OC
Cyber core for Hero
Zealot for Hero not skipping that shit
Polt looking to put down his CC at the natural
Reaper is out


04:00 Stalker, MSC, warp gate research
LOOK AT THAT REAPER GO, NNNNEEEEEWAAAAAAHHHHH
so fucking fast
bunker for Polt
and marine production beginning
Hero is moving out with a zealot a stalker and his MSC
poly spots it with his reaper

05:00 Polt begins a quick factory
The bunker will deflect the pressure quite easily
HERO RUNS UP THE RAMP WOW
THE STALKER AND THE ZEALOT GET INTO THE MAIN
TIMEE WARP
SCV PULLED OFF THE LINE!!!!!


06:00 The marines of polt falls but so does the zealot and the stalker
Hero has to retreat and no scv's lost
meanwhile Blink begins for Hero
Polt has an engineering bay
a starport and widow mines being procued.

07:00Polt tries to scout but unfortunately doesnt see it
more gates being added for Hero
could this be blink pressure?

08:00 Medivacs being produced and bunkers on the high ground for Polt
He is readyt for any blink shenanigans
Tech lab made for Polt
Robo begins for Hero
Medivac moving out for polt with a Mine in it

09:00 Hero with amazing game sense
he has stalkers waiting for the medivac and he picks it off
double forge instantly
stim research starts for Polt

10:00Robo Bay for Hero
+1 attack for Polt
marine marauder production overall
Hero putting on some pressure with his stalkers
doing some good damage actually and meanwhile he has double upgrades going and a strong economy
Zerg for Life
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
February 16 2014 22:22 GMT
#6279
Let's go Polt!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
February 16 2014 22:22 GMT
#6280
On February 17 2014 07:18 Lumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 07:14 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:12 Sokrates wrote:
What pisses people of is not the fact that hero played really well it is the fact that he shouldnt have won after two failed allins. Not that hero didnt play well but after 2 failed allins you should have not a snowballs chance in hell to get back into it other than your enemy throwing it hard.

Which is pretty much exactly what happened lol


No? Lol. Btw, it's failed 4 gate vs 3 hatch before pool, into failed all in, into repeat of failed all-in vs superior tech. Chobos might assert that JD made mistakes and threw the match but if you pulled up the replay with them and asked them to point to specific moments and say "That exact command was a mistake" and also ask them to say exactly what could have been done better, they won't actually know, or will start spilling all of their bogus perceptions which serve to retain their lower league status in the game. Best not to sweat it, but then that makes this all hypocritical of me I like telling the truth.

Did you watch a different game than I did? JD made several key mistakes towards the end of the game and threw his lead.

-He fought off creep with Hydras when he didn't need to and lost a lot for just a few zealots
-He sent a bunch of roaches to kill a couple buildings and like one sentry and then lost almost all of them, making his standing army weaker later
-He didn't even try to target fire the warp prism FOREVER, you at least make HerO have to choose between microing to save the prism or pick up immortals or forcefield
-Not pulling drones early enough, especially after 3rd was killed and a lot of them were dead weight

I could go on, but those are the major ones. He had initially set himself up in an almost unwinnable position, but then made several key mistakes that HerO capitalized on.

Anyway, Polt time.
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