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Belgica34432 Posts
On February 17 2014 07:22 Soohyung wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 07:20 opterown wrote:On February 17 2014 07:17 Squat wrote:On February 17 2014 07:10 Darkhorse wrote:On February 17 2014 07:09 Squat wrote:On February 17 2014 07:00 redviper wrote:On February 17 2014 06:55 robson1 wrote:On February 17 2014 06:53 Squat wrote:
It is absolutely baffling that JD still has not figured out that zerg is never supposed to be aggressive when ahead, unless you have already won. If he just falls back, makes some drones and masses hydras, hero has zero chance of winning. Again, his over-aggression kills him. And he never learns.
Fuck everything, I'll go drink some battery acid now or something. Lol. JD is so terrible with his consistent top 4 finishes. He never learns how to play decently. Must be hard to be butthurt all the time. I'll never understand this devotion that people bring over for JD from BW days. Lets list all the tournaments JD has won shall we. Asus ROG Numericable M-House Cup HyperX 10 year anniversary. Its pretty lol worthy to compare him to HerO. WCS NA S1 NASL S4 DH Winter DH Winter IPL Fight club MLG Summer quals IPL Season 3 qual 1. FXOpen Invite Not to mention that HerO actually plays in PL and Jaedong plays in .. well nothing really. Not even GSTL. JD was a Brood War legend. Without people like him, this game, this tournament, this website would not exist. Hate all you want but players like JD built this fucking scene with their hard work in a cramped apartment for shit pay over years and years. People respect him because he's fucking earned it. People like him because of what he's done, and for the awesome memories he's given them. Unless you were there, you will never understand. That guy is an idiot for shitting on JD, but seriously you are going to far with the whine today. Who is whining? I never even mentioned balance in this thread once. I was angry and disappointed that my biggest idol lost in a really stupid way. I thought he played poorly. Get off your high horse, being pretentious doesn't suit you. neither does it suit you lol You really don't deserve your quality poster icon, I hope they will take it away from you. Either way, it's quite sad that JD vs HerO took away the hype from the Grand Final. I hope Polt vs HerO is going to be a good match.
wow wtf
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On February 17 2014 07:24 iAmJeffReY wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 07:24 Jerom wrote:
this game shows whats wrong with TvP imo. If you don't get the perfect scout, you have to overcommit to defense so badly. Polt's pretty far behind now. 142 vs 116. Man he's miles behind.
Some people just don't even try to understand how this game works -_-
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On February 17 2014 07:23 Yorkie wrote:
What is the point of the people talking about the viewership drop after JD lost? That people should let JD win for the sake of the scene? Or that a lot of JD fans aren't actually Starcraft fans?
It's getting late in Europe, 1130pm here in Sweden and most got work/school in the morning so I'll watch the finals tomrrow unless it's a stomp.
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On February 17 2014 07:24 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 07:23 Yorkie wrote:
What is the point of the people talking about the viewership drop after JD lost? That people should let JD win for the sake of the scene? Or that a lot of JD fans aren't actually Starcraft fans? They're trying to say because Jaedong lost people tuned out, in some sort of naive protest at protoss apparently being bullshit.
Yeah it's just weird because it seems like the opposite of the point they want to be making lol. Viewers climbing back up gradually as well
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Spain10132 Posts
On February 17 2014 07:25 KrazyTrumpet wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 07:24 iAmJeffReY wrote:On February 17 2014 07:24 Jerom wrote:
this game shows whats wrong with TvP imo. If you don't get the perfect scout, you have to overcommit to defense so badly. Polt's pretty far behind now. 142 vs 116. Man he's miles behind. Some people just don't even try to understand how this game works -_-
protoss too stronk, you need to be up one base, and 50 supply, if not you dead, gg ?
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NIce save on that 1 ghost.
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Upgrades are gonna snowball for HerO soon.
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United Kingdom10443 Posts
On February 17 2014 07:22 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 07:19 KelsierSC wrote:On February 17 2014 07:15 KelsierSC wrote:Grand Final Polt vs  HerOGame 1 - Heavy Rain LE 00:00 Polt Spawns Bottom, Hero Spawns Top 01:00 Fuck I don't know PvT, ah well, get ready for some shit rax opening for Polt gateway for Hero 02:00 Gas for Polt and 2 gases for Hero just chilling out man, looking good 03:00Reaper for Polt and an OC Cyber core for Hero Zealot for Hero not skipping that shit Polt looking to put down his CC at the natural Reaper is out 04:00 Stalker, MSC, warp gate research LOOK AT THAT REAPER GO, NNNNEEEEEWAAAAAAHHHHH so fucking fast bunker for Polt and marine production beginning Hero is moving out with a zealot a stalker and his MSC poly spots it with his reaper 05:00 Polt begins a quick factory The bunker will deflect the pressure quite easily HERO RUNS UP THE RAMP WOW THE STALKER AND THE ZEALOT GET INTO THE MAIN TIMEE WARP SCV PULLED OFF THE LINE!!!!! 06:00 The marines of polt falls but so does the zealot and the stalker Hero has to retreat and no scv's lost meanwhile Blink begins for Hero Polt has an engineering bay a starport and widow mines being procued. 07:00Polt tries to scout but unfortunately doesnt see it more gates being added for Hero could this be blink pressure? 08:00 Medivacs being produced and bunkers on the high ground for Polt He is readyt for any blink shenanigans Tech lab made for Polt Robo begins for Hero Medivac moving out for polt with a Mine in it 09:00 Hero with amazing game sense he has stalkers waiting for the medivac and he picks it off double forge instantly stim research starts for Polt 10:00Robo Bay for Hero +1 attack for Polt marine marauder production overall Hero putting on some pressure with his stalkers doing some good damage actually and meanwhile he has double upgrades going and a strong economy
11:00 Hero gets awarp prism out
collo range
hero still poking and prodding with his stalkers
great blink micro
charge begins
12:00Polt still kind of stuck without stim but it finishes up
ghost academy
2 medivacs loaded up!!!
meanwhile the warp prism sneaks towards the main
JAMES BOND!!!!!!
BUT HE SEES IT
OH SHIT DIE ANOTHER DAY!!!
13:00
The warp prism dies nice pick from polt
meanwhile hero has one collo out and another on the way
begins his 2/2
polt working on +1 armour, he will be behind in upgrades
ghosts on the way
14:00
3rd nexus for hero
Polt going for a double attack, one to the third of hero and one to the natural
hero moves down to defend his natural and polt snipes the third great job.
3rd CC for Polt
15:00
Another 3rd snipe and no cancel!!!!
vikings being made for Polt
more collo being made
POLT GOES FOR IT
HE MOVES INTO THE NATURAL
EMP!!!!!!!!
3 COLLOSUS!!
THEY ROAST THE BIO
4th COLLO POPS OUT
Polt has to move back
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On February 17 2014 07:25 RHoudini wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 07:22 Slardar wrote:
IEM has been the best SC2 content I've watched all year, as I'm sure it has been for a lot of others. To top it all off, we're still NOT done! Grand finals baby. Agreed. Awesome players, tense games and series, ESL production quality has been top notch. Perfect SC2 day.
And I'm about to top it off with a delicious pizza. Nom nom nom
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he lost his factory before making an armory. That's basically gg.
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OMG Twitch picked a great fucking time to start lagging on me.
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WHAT THE HELL ? Hero is in the finals ? how is that possible, i had to go out just when HerO lost everything in JD base excet the Warp Prism and the 2 immortals, can someone make me a quick summarize after that !!
Did i miss one of the most exciting games ever just to get some food  ?
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Oh fuck oh fuck.
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United States23455 Posts
On February 17 2014 07:25 Larkin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 07:23 Darkhorse wrote:On February 17 2014 07:22 Soohyung wrote:On February 17 2014 07:20 opterown wrote:On February 17 2014 07:17 Squat wrote:On February 17 2014 07:10 Darkhorse wrote:On February 17 2014 07:09 Squat wrote:On February 17 2014 07:00 redviper wrote:On February 17 2014 06:55 robson1 wrote:On February 17 2014 06:53 Squat wrote:
It is absolutely baffling that JD still has not figured out that zerg is never supposed to be aggressive when ahead, unless you have already won. If he just falls back, makes some drones and masses hydras, hero has zero chance of winning. Again, his over-aggression kills him. And he never learns.
Fuck everything, I'll go drink some battery acid now or something. Lol. JD is so terrible with his consistent top 4 finishes. He never learns how to play decently. Must be hard to be butthurt all the time. I'll never understand this devotion that people bring over for JD from BW days. Lets list all the tournaments JD has won shall we. Asus ROG Numericable M-House Cup HyperX 10 year anniversary. Its pretty lol worthy to compare him to HerO. WCS NA S1 NASL S4 DH Winter DH Winter IPL Fight club MLG Summer quals IPL Season 3 qual 1. FXOpen Invite Not to mention that HerO actually plays in PL and Jaedong plays in .. well nothing really. Not even GSTL. JD was a Brood War legend. Without people like him, this game, this tournament, this website would not exist. Hate all you want but players like JD built this fucking scene with their hard work in a cramped apartment for shit pay over years and years. People respect him because he's fucking earned it. People like him because of what he's done, and for the awesome memories he's given them. Unless you were there, you will never understand. That guy is an idiot for shitting on JD, but seriously you are going to far with the whine today. Who is whining? I never even mentioned balance in this thread once. I was angry and disappointed that my biggest idol lost in a really stupid way. I thought he played poorly. Get off your high horse, being pretentious doesn't suit you. neither does it suit you lol You really don't deserve your quality poster icon, I hope they will take it away from you.Either way, it's quite sad that JD vs HerO took away the hype from the Grand Final. I hope Polt vs HerO is going to be a good match. You have room to say that once you've done as much for LR threads and everything else opter does on TL. Not that I agree with him, but quality posters do have an obligation to maintain a professional and proper attitude while posting, in my opinion. They should uphold all of the code of conduct.
Now we're holding posters on TL to a higher standard than players/casters whining about balance. You shouldn't be forced to post incredible literature every time you post after earning a star.
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lol when i attack 1 collosus without viking all my shit dies instantly.... Polt is just yoloing all his shit into 4 collosi....
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This game is back and forth.
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On February 17 2014 07:25 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 07:24 Dodgin wrote:On February 17 2014 07:23 Yorkie wrote:
What is the point of the people talking about the viewership drop after JD lost? That people should let JD win for the sake of the scene? Or that a lot of JD fans aren't actually Starcraft fans? They're trying to say because Jaedong lost people tuned out, in some sort of naive protest at protoss apparently being bullshit. Yeah it's just weird because it seems like the opposite of the point they want to be making lol. Viewers climbing back up gradually as well
Yeah, I don't get it. Viewers dropping off going into a long break between series?! YOU DON'T SAY!
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On February 17 2014 07:25 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 07:24 Dodgin wrote:On February 17 2014 07:23 Yorkie wrote:
What is the point of the people talking about the viewership drop after JD lost? That people should let JD win for the sake of the scene? Or that a lot of JD fans aren't actually Starcraft fans? They're trying to say because Jaedong lost people tuned out, in some sort of naive protest at protoss apparently being bullshit. Yeah it's just weird because it seems like the opposite of the point they want to be making lol. Viewers climbing back up gradually as well
It's just another form of whining. It happens a lot in different matchups.
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such a broken game... LOL at the 5th jaedong vs hero game... ridiculous...
User was warned for this post
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On February 17 2014 07:22 KrazyTrumpet wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 07:18 Lumi wrote:On February 17 2014 07:14 KrazyTrumpet wrote:On February 17 2014 07:12 Sokrates wrote:
What pisses people of is not the fact that hero played really well it is the fact that he shouldnt have won after two failed allins. Not that hero didnt play well but after 2 failed allins you should have not a snowballs chance in hell to get back into it other than your enemy throwing it hard. Which is pretty much exactly what happened lol No? Lol. Btw, it's failed 4 gate vs 3 hatch before pool, into failed all in, into repeat of failed all-in vs superior tech. Chobos might assert that JD made mistakes and threw the match but if you pulled up the replay with them and asked them to point to specific moments and say "That exact command was a mistake" and also ask them to say exactly what could have been done better, they won't actually know, or will start spilling all of their bogus perceptions which serve to retain their lower league status in the game. Best not to sweat it, but then that makes this all hypocritical of me  I like telling the truth. Did you watch a different game than I did? JD made several key mistakes towards the end of the game and threw his lead. -He fought off creep with Hydras when he didn't need to and lost a lot for just a few zealots -He sent a bunch of roaches to kill a couple buildings and like one sentry and then lost almost all of them, making his standing army weaker later -He didn't even try to target fire the warp prism FOREVER, you at least make HerO have to choose between microing to save the prism or pick up immortals or forcefield -Not pulling drones early enough, especially after 3rd was killed and a lot of them were dead weight I could go on, but those are the major ones. He had initially set himself up in an almost unwinnable position, but then made several key mistakes that HerO capitalized on. Anyway, Polt time.
JD might not have played perfectly but considering that he held the first two allins almost perfectly it's weird that he had such a hard time defending the third allin. Hell, even the fact that HerO was able to go for _three_ allins is hilarious, you really shouldn't be able to allin for three times in a row.
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