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Okay calm down folks, stop balance whining or the bans are going to get long.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 16 2014 22:27 GMT
#6321
On February 17 2014 07:25 Larkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 07:23 Darkhorse wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:22 Soohyung wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:20 opterown wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:17 Squat wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:10 Darkhorse wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:09 Squat wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:00 redviper wrote:
On February 17 2014 06:55 robson1 wrote:
On February 17 2014 06:53 Squat wrote:
It is absolutely baffling that JD still has not figured out that zerg is never supposed to be aggressive when ahead, unless you have already won. If he just falls back, makes some drones and masses hydras, hero has zero chance of winning. Again, his over-aggression kills him. And he never learns.

Fuck everything, I'll go drink some battery acid now or something.


Lol. JD is so terrible with his consistent top 4 finishes. He never learns how to play decently. Must be hard to be butthurt all the time.


I'll never understand this devotion that people bring over for JD from BW days.
Lets list all the tournaments JD has won shall we.

Asus ROG
Numericable M-House Cup
HyperX 10 year anniversary.
Its pretty lol worthy to compare him to HerO.

WCS NA S1
NASL S4
DH Winter
DH Winter
IPL Fight club
MLG Summer quals
IPL Season 3 qual 1.
FXOpen Invite

Not to mention that HerO actually plays in PL and Jaedong plays in .. well nothing really. Not even GSTL.




JD was a Brood War legend. Without people like him, this game, this tournament, this website would not exist. Hate all you want but players like JD built this fucking scene with their hard work in a cramped apartment for shit pay over years and years.

People respect him because he's fucking earned it. People like him because of what he's done, and for the awesome memories he's given them. Unless you were there, you will never understand.

That guy is an idiot for shitting on JD, but seriously you are going to far with the whine today.

Who is whining? I never even mentioned balance in this thread once. I was angry and disappointed that my biggest idol lost in a really stupid way. I thought he played poorly. Get off your high horse, being pretentious doesn't suit you.

neither does it suit you lol

You really don't deserve your quality poster icon, I hope they will take it away from you.

Either way, it's quite sad that JD vs HerO took away the hype from the Grand Final. I hope Polt vs HerO is going to be a good match.

You have room to say that once you've done as much for LR threads and everything else opter does on TL.


Not that I agree with him, but quality posters do have an obligation to maintain a professional and proper attitude while posting, in my opinion. They should uphold all of the code of conduct.


The star doesn't mean that you have to do anything in the future, it means that you've contributed a lot in the past. They shouldn't be held to a higher standard than normal posters because they've contributed more. If anything, it should be (and probably is) the other way around. Quality posters have earned some leniency.
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robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
February 16 2014 22:27 GMT
#6322
On February 17 2014 07:26 Faruko wrote:
WHAT THE HELL ? Hero is in the finals ? how is that possible, i had to go out just when HerO lost everything in JD base excet the Warp Prism and the 2 immortals, can someone make me a quick summarize after that !!

Did i miss one of the most exciting games ever just to get some food ?


yes.
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24603 Posts
February 16 2014 22:27 GMT
#6323
On February 17 2014 07:26 Faruko wrote:
WHAT THE HELL ? Hero is in the finals ? how is that possible, i had to go out just when HerO lost everything in JD base excet the Warp Prism and the 2 immortals, can someone make me a quick summarize after that !!

Did i miss one of the most exciting games ever just to get some food ?


Yes, yes, you did.
ArTiFaKs
Profile Joined September 2013
United States1229 Posts
February 16 2014 22:27 GMT
#6324
BASE TRADEEEEEE
There are things known, and things unknown, and in-between are the doors.
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
February 16 2014 22:27 GMT
#6325
I think one of the hardest things if you play vs blink is, that you have to resist loading everything into medivacs if you cant win small fights vs stalkers. They just blink and snipe the medivac. Its a tough call if you can get out or if its better to stay and fight and take some stalkers with you
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-16 22:29:34
February 16 2014 22:28 GMT
#6326
On February 17 2014 07:20 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 07:17 Squat wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:10 Darkhorse wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:09 Squat wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:00 redviper wrote:
On February 17 2014 06:55 robson1 wrote:
On February 17 2014 06:53 Squat wrote:
It is absolutely baffling that JD still has not figured out that zerg is never supposed to be aggressive when ahead, unless you have already won. If he just falls back, makes some drones and masses hydras, hero has zero chance of winning. Again, his over-aggression kills him. And he never learns.

Fuck everything, I'll go drink some battery acid now or something.


Lol. JD is so terrible with his consistent top 4 finishes. He never learns how to play decently. Must be hard to be butthurt all the time.


I'll never understand this devotion that people bring over for JD from BW days.
Lets list all the tournaments JD has won shall we.

Asus ROG
Numericable M-House Cup
HyperX 10 year anniversary.

Its pretty lol worthy to compare him to HerO.

WCS NA S1
NASL S4
DH Winter
DH Winter
IPL Fight club
MLG Summer quals
IPL Season 3 qual 1.
FXOpen Invite

Not to mention that HerO actually plays in PL and Jaedong plays in .. well nothing really. Not even GSTL.




JD was a Brood War legend. Without people like him, this game, this tournament, this website would not exist. Hate all you want but players like JD built this fucking scene with their hard work in a cramped apartment for shit pay over years and years.

People respect him because he's fucking earned it. People like him because of what he's done, and for the awesome memories he's given them. Unless you were there, you will never understand.

That guy is an idiot for shitting on JD, but seriously you are going to far with the whine today.

Who is whining? I never even mentioned balance in this thread once. I was angry and disappointed that my biggest idol lost in a really stupid way. I thought he played poorly. Get off your high horse, being pretentious doesn't suit you.

neither does it suit you lol

Doesn't really suit anyone. I'm still not the one balance whining and flaming here. I was giving voice to my frustration. If that's pretentious, so be it.

Edit: and of course Opter should not lose his quality poster icon because he shot me a fairly harmless barb. It's fine, I'm a big boy, I can take it.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
February 16 2014 22:28 GMT
#6327
Why Polt build only 4 vikings is beyond me ...
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
February 16 2014 22:28 GMT
#6328
On February 17 2014 07:26 Faruko wrote:
WHAT THE HELL ? Hero is in the finals ? how is that possible, i had to go out just when HerO lost everything in JD base excet the Warp Prism and the 2 immortals, can someone make me a quick summarize after that !!

Did i miss one of the most exciting games ever just to get some food ?

It was exciting, but if you are JD fan I don't think you should watch it because it wasn't pretty...
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
February 16 2014 22:28 GMT
#6329
Never basetrade a polt?
Unbiased biased terran abuser Jeffrey. Sorry for the rage, friend!
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
February 16 2014 22:28 GMT
#6330
This game is already wonky.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
February 16 2014 22:28 GMT
#6331
gogo Polt
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Lumi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1616 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-16 22:31:01
February 16 2014 22:28 GMT
#6332
On February 17 2014 07:20 robson1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 07:18 Lumi wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:14 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:12 Sokrates wrote:
What pisses people of is not the fact that hero played really well it is the fact that he shouldnt have won after two failed allins. Not that hero didnt play well but after 2 failed allins you should have not a snowballs chance in hell to get back into it other than your enemy throwing it hard.

Which is pretty much exactly what happened lol


No? Lol. Btw, it's failed 4 gate vs 3 hatch before pool, into failed all in, into repeat of failed all-in vs superior tech. Chobos might assert that JD made mistakes and threw the match but if you pulled up the replay with them and asked them to point to specific moments and say "That exact command was a mistake" and also ask them to say exactly what could have been done better, they won't actually know, or will start spilling all of their bogus perceptions which serve to retain their lower league status in the game. Best not to sweat it, but then that makes this all hypocritical of me I like telling the truth.


lol. You like deluding yourself to confirm your bias.


Seems like my self-enjoyment over intellectual grounds is triggering your own egoistic insecurities toward the effect of wanting to dispatch with my would-be validity. What great justice you have just asserted and believed without any good evidence and even less of a chance of certainty. But if making things up and believing in them is what suits you, then, by all means. I'm not going to get in your way No harm done!
twitter.com/lumigaming - DongRaeGu is the One True Dong - /r/onetruedong
Ravomat
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany422 Posts
February 16 2014 22:28 GMT
#6333
On February 17 2014 07:27 Soohyung wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 07:22 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:18 Lumi wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:14 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:12 Sokrates wrote:
What pisses people of is not the fact that hero played really well it is the fact that he shouldnt have won after two failed allins. Not that hero didnt play well but after 2 failed allins you should have not a snowballs chance in hell to get back into it other than your enemy throwing it hard.

Which is pretty much exactly what happened lol


No? Lol. Btw, it's failed 4 gate vs 3 hatch before pool, into failed all in, into repeat of failed all-in vs superior tech. Chobos might assert that JD made mistakes and threw the match but if you pulled up the replay with them and asked them to point to specific moments and say "That exact command was a mistake" and also ask them to say exactly what could have been done better, they won't actually know, or will start spilling all of their bogus perceptions which serve to retain their lower league status in the game. Best not to sweat it, but then that makes this all hypocritical of me I like telling the truth.

Did you watch a different game than I did? JD made several key mistakes towards the end of the game and threw his lead.

-He fought off creep with Hydras when he didn't need to and lost a lot for just a few zealots
-He sent a bunch of roaches to kill a couple buildings and like one sentry and then lost almost all of them, making his standing army weaker later
-He didn't even try to target fire the warp prism FOREVER, you at least make HerO have to choose between microing to save the prism or pick up immortals or forcefield
-Not pulling drones early enough, especially after 3rd was killed and a lot of them were dead weight

I could go on, but those are the major ones. He had initially set himself up in an almost unwinnable position, but then made several key mistakes that HerO capitalized on.

Anyway, Polt time.

JD might not have played perfectly but considering that he held the first two allins almost perfectly it's weird that he had such a hard time defending the third allin. Hell, even the fact that HerO was able to go for _three_ allins is hilarious, you really shouldn't be able to allin for three times in a row.

Then maybe those pushes shouldn't be called all-in.
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
February 16 2014 22:29 GMT
#6334
Oh great. This shit again
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 16 2014 22:29 GMT
#6335
On February 17 2014 07:28 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 07:20 opterown wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:17 Squat wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:10 Darkhorse wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:09 Squat wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:00 redviper wrote:
On February 17 2014 06:55 robson1 wrote:
On February 17 2014 06:53 Squat wrote:
It is absolutely baffling that JD still has not figured out that zerg is never supposed to be aggressive when ahead, unless you have already won. If he just falls back, makes some drones and masses hydras, hero has zero chance of winning. Again, his over-aggression kills him. And he never learns.

Fuck everything, I'll go drink some battery acid now or something.


Lol. JD is so terrible with his consistent top 4 finishes. He never learns how to play decently. Must be hard to be butthurt all the time.


I'll never understand this devotion that people bring over for JD from BW days.
Lets list all the tournaments JD has won shall we.

Asus ROG
Numericable M-House Cup
HyperX 10 year anniversary.

Its pretty lol worthy to compare him to HerO.

WCS NA S1
NASL S4
DH Winter
DH Winter
IPL Fight club
MLG Summer quals
IPL Season 3 qual 1.
FXOpen Invite

Not to mention that HerO actually plays in PL and Jaedong plays in .. well nothing really. Not even GSTL.




JD was a Brood War legend. Without people like him, this game, this tournament, this website would not exist. Hate all you want but players like JD built this fucking scene with their hard work in a cramped apartment for shit pay over years and years.

People respect him because he's fucking earned it. People like him because of what he's done, and for the awesome memories he's given them. Unless you were there, you will never understand.

That guy is an idiot for shitting on JD, but seriously you are going to far with the whine today.

Who is whining? I never even mentioned balance in this thread once. I was angry and disappointed that my biggest idol lost in a really stupid way. I thought he played poorly. Get off your high horse, being pretentious doesn't suit you.

neither does it suit you lol

Doesn't really suit anyone. I'm still not the one balance whining and flaming here. I was giving voice to my frustration. If that's pretentious, so be it.

I apologize I erroneously lectured you for whining when you were pretty mature about it that's my bad.
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ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
February 16 2014 22:29 GMT
#6336
Holy shit a draw for game 1!!!
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 16 2014 22:29 GMT
#6337
On February 17 2014 07:25 Larkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 07:23 Darkhorse wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:22 Soohyung wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:20 opterown wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:17 Squat wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:10 Darkhorse wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:09 Squat wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:00 redviper wrote:
On February 17 2014 06:55 robson1 wrote:
On February 17 2014 06:53 Squat wrote:
It is absolutely baffling that JD still has not figured out that zerg is never supposed to be aggressive when ahead, unless you have already won. If he just falls back, makes some drones and masses hydras, hero has zero chance of winning. Again, his over-aggression kills him. And he never learns.

Fuck everything, I'll go drink some battery acid now or something.


Lol. JD is so terrible with his consistent top 4 finishes. He never learns how to play decently. Must be hard to be butthurt all the time.


I'll never understand this devotion that people bring over for JD from BW days.
Lets list all the tournaments JD has won shall we.

Asus ROG
Numericable M-House Cup
HyperX 10 year anniversary.
Its pretty lol worthy to compare him to HerO.

WCS NA S1
NASL S4
DH Winter
DH Winter
IPL Fight club
MLG Summer quals
IPL Season 3 qual 1.
FXOpen Invite

Not to mention that HerO actually plays in PL and Jaedong plays in .. well nothing really. Not even GSTL.




JD was a Brood War legend. Without people like him, this game, this tournament, this website would not exist. Hate all you want but players like JD built this fucking scene with their hard work in a cramped apartment for shit pay over years and years.

People respect him because he's fucking earned it. People like him because of what he's done, and for the awesome memories he's given them. Unless you were there, you will never understand.

That guy is an idiot for shitting on JD, but seriously you are going to far with the whine today.

Who is whining? I never even mentioned balance in this thread once. I was angry and disappointed that my biggest idol lost in a really stupid way. I thought he played poorly. Get off your high horse, being pretentious doesn't suit you.

neither does it suit you lol

You really don't deserve your quality poster icon, I hope they will take it away from you.

Either way, it's quite sad that JD vs HerO took away the hype from the Grand Final. I hope Polt vs HerO is going to be a good match.

You have room to say that once you've done as much for LR threads and everything else opter does on TL.


Not that I agree with him, but quality posters do have an obligation to maintain a professional and proper attitude while posting, in my opinion. They should uphold all of the code of conduct.

it's not like i represent team liquid lol, plus that post was hardly unprofessional lol
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iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
February 16 2014 22:29 GMT
#6338
I like this style.

Fuck vikings. Basetrade and draw.

lol
Unbiased biased terran abuser Jeffrey. Sorry for the rage, friend!
plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
February 16 2014 22:29 GMT
#6339
Draw it Polt. YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
February 16 2014 22:29 GMT
#6340
Heros army won't be beaten.
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
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