EPT[IEM] Cologne Day 4 - Ro8, Ro4 and Grand Finals - Page 313
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Okay calm down folks, stop balance whining or the bans are going to get long. | ||
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herMan
Japan2057 Posts
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Godwrath
Spain10142 Posts
On February 17 2014 07:18 Elite_ wrote: About a failed Immortal all-in that went into a bigger Immortal all-in that lasted like 10 or so minutes. That happened in 2012 too. The ways of the soul train are capricious. | ||
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Captain Peabody
United States3128 Posts
Of course Hero made mistakes. But in this particular game, using this particular strategy against JD's particular strategy, with his units and level of micro against JD's units and level of micro, his mistakes ended up being less impactful than JD's mistakes. Now, why is that? It's because SC2 is a karking complicated game. Maps, strategies, micro, macro, meta-gaming, units, army movement, racial asymmetry, and decision making all contribute to the outcome of games--AND ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE INHERENTLY ASYMMETRICAL THEREFORE 'UNFAIR.' Yet to ascribe a victory in a game like this to only one of these factors (e.g. "herp derp Protoss," "immortals unfair," "yeonsu," etc), and then to try to use this to argue that the game as a whole is therefore 'unfair' is utterly nonsensical. These players are both amazing. They both played amazingly, making use of all of the factors I talked about. One of them won. It's an insult to both of them, to all competitive players, and to the community as a whole to try to pretend that this win is somehow illegitimate or 'undeserved' because the players played the actual game of SC2 skillfully. Which, to remind you again, is as an asymmetrical RTS game. | ||
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imrusty269
United States1404 Posts
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Miragee
8661 Posts
On February 17 2014 07:03 NarutO wrote: Why the hell are so many people negative? Yes people don't like allins, I can understand. People don't like their favorite losing, I get that. But who the hell can say that this series wasn't nailbiting and exciting till the end? Seriously what is wrong with you. Today we got some of the best Starcraft out there and we should all be happy that IEM hits over 80000 viewers. Please make the scene a bit more enjoyable for yourself. It was close and nail-biting until the and. It was still ugly to watch and not enjoyable at all (for me). Happy now? | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On February 17 2014 07:17 Squat wrote: Who is whining? I never even mentioned balance in this thread once. I was angry and disappointed that my biggest idol lost in a really stupid way. I thought he played poorly. Get off your high horse, being pretentious doesn't suit you. neither does it suit you lol | ||
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
another marine runby to beat this | ||
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Caladan
Germany1238 Posts
Half an hour ago - 78.000 watching Jaedong. Now grand finals and 64.000 watching. :D No comment. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16121 Posts
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robson1
3632 Posts
On February 17 2014 07:18 Lumi wrote: No? Lol. Btw, it's failed 4 gate vs 3 hatch before pool, into failed all in, into repeat of failed all-in vs superior tech. Chobos might assert that JD made mistakes and threw the match but if you pulled up the replay with them and asked them to point to specific moments and say "That exact command was a mistake" and also ask them to say exactly what could have been done better, they won't actually know, or will start spilling all of their bogus perceptions which serve to retain their lower league status in the game. Best not to sweat it, but then that makes this all hypocritical of me  I like telling the truth.lol. You like deluding yourself to confirm your bias. | ||
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Yorkie
United States12612 Posts
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DaedricTV
United Kingdom94 Posts
On February 17 2014 07:18 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Thank god you are giving us such a good contribution There is nothing good about this thread, not for the past 20 pages. All because of children complaining their favourite got outplayed. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On February 17 2014 07:20 Caladan wrote: lol, look at the viewer numbers. Half an hour ago - 78.000 watching Jaedong. Now grand finals and 64.000 watching. :D No comment. I'll be sure to quote you in an hour | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24603 Posts
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Gullis
Sweden740 Posts
Come on please Polt win! | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12461 Posts
On February 17 2014 07:15 SpikeStarcraft wrote: well... allining protosses arent really popular. I think people have a lot of respect for Rain's macro game. People like their protosses to play well, have close games, and then lose in the end. If you look at the games Rain won vs Polt, you will find complaints about them as well. I would put that in perspective, it's not really about "popular" or not; usually the LR thread people are the only people who really suffer from this. | ||
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Wildmoon
Thailand4189 Posts
On February 17 2014 07:18 Lumi wrote: No? Lol. Btw, it's failed 4 gate vs 3 hatch before pool, into failed all in, into repeat of failed all-in vs superior tech. Chobos might assert that JD made mistakes and threw the match but if you pulled up the replay with them and asked them to point to specific moments and say "That exact command was a mistake" and also ask them to say exactly what could have been done better, they won't actually know, or will start spilling all of their bogus perceptions which serve to retain their lower league status in the game. Best not to sweat it, but then that makes this all hypocritical of me I like telling the truth.The suicide engagement in open area was an obvious mistake and a terrible one. JD didn't have to do that at all. He had all the advantages. I am not sure how could you know anything about SC if you can't even point out JD's mistakes in that game. | ||
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kckkryptonite
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On February 17 2014 07:20 imrusty269 wrote: I'm so glad that Polt vs HerO final and all them annoying CJ entoss fans have raged quit. You underestimate me but I'm not sure what the deal is with CJ since they had no players at this IEM | ||
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