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Okay calm down folks, stop balance whining or the bans are going to get long.
sagi
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland346 Posts
February 16 2014 17:41 GMT
#2801
Polt better win to soothe my terran soul. Also to prevent possible forum apocalypse of whine.
hi patrik!
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-16 17:42:53
February 16 2014 17:41 GMT
#2802
nvm
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
February 16 2014 17:41 GMT
#2803
Let's go Polt!!
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-16 17:42:29
February 16 2014 17:41 GMT
#2804
On February 17 2014 02:39 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 02:36 bo1b wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:35 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:34 Squat wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:28 Xinzoe wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:27 Godwrath wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:26 pmp10 wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:25 eurTsItniH wrote:
A PvP final is pretty likely isn't it?

Was JD looking bad against Patience?
Didn't see the games.

I am confident on JD destroying hero.


Only if JD takes his jacket off.

JD actually has a pretty good track record against Hero, which is weird since Hero, at least on paper seems like a player who would give JD fits.

I don't know, JD has looked thoroughly unimpressive so far in HotS, but if he can beat Patience, he should be able to beat Hero.

Have you been watching a different JD the last 6 months or so than the rest of us...?

He's looked unimpressive for majority of games in 2014 at least, and early 2013 he looked fucking horrid vs protoss, and every zerg was losing vT for a while. So he's kind of right

Again...have you people been watching a completely different JD than the rest of us? His vP has improved *drastically* so I'm not sure why you're even bringing that up.
I will agree that his previous tournament he looked completely off, but the entire second half of 2013 was pretty much complete ownage from him, and he's back on form this tournament. I don't really understand how you can argue.

What part of early 2013 = second half of 2013

edit: I have no fucking clue what I'm doing with this apparently
Fhiz
Profile Joined October 2013
361 Posts
February 16 2014 17:42 GMT
#2805
On February 17 2014 02:41 Lorning wrote:
ugh Apollo, that blazer is awful


it was better then tod's short sleeved dress shirt with the top 3 buttons undone at sao paulo
girls generation make u feel da heat
Ufnal
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland1435 Posts
February 16 2014 17:42 GMT
#2806
On February 17 2014 02:38 Abominous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 02:37 KelsierSC wrote:
I am really surprised how much people like discussing balance rather than enjoying epic games.

For me the fun in this game comes from talking about cool shit and awesome games
rather than random balance discussion which I don't understand because I am not a pro.

Not much of balance discussion was raised before the Inno vs HerO series (mind you that was the first awful series of the day).


That's funny, by the way. When the games play out well and are interesting, it's purely the player's merit and nobody mentions how the game is well suited for bringing us epic fun. While when games are bad, it's mainly (though not only, to be fair) balance whine.
OG | Secret | Liquid | Nigma | Alliance | VP | Fnatic | EG | T1 | LGD
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
February 16 2014 17:42 GMT
#2807
On February 17 2014 02:41 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
So can somebody explain rationally why innovation lost so hard? Im too biased and fed up right now for a proper analysis.

He didn't scout correctly and lost to an all-in different than he was expecting in the first two games. In the third game he got the worse end of a base trade.
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Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
February 16 2014 17:42 GMT
#2808
On February 17 2014 02:41 Lorning wrote:
ugh Apollo, that blazer is awful

I've never understood TL's obsession with clothes
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
February 16 2014 17:42 GMT
#2809
On February 17 2014 02:37 KelsierSC wrote:
I am really surprised how much people like discussing balance rather than enjoying epic games.

For me the fun in this game comes from talking about cool shit and awesome games
rather than random balance discussion which I don't understand because I am not a pro.

It can be difficult to find anything cool to talk about if you fundamentally dislike what you see in a large quantity of the games.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
seak99
Profile Joined November 2013
Canada69 Posts
February 16 2014 17:42 GMT
#2810
First game innovation read the situation wrong.

Second game he should have scanned or something.

So we can say he should have scouted better. But it wasn't like he played completely blind. Why should that amount of missed scouting for Terran always result in GG.

What openings does terran have, if gone unscouted , would result in insta losses for protoss? Can't think of any off the top of my head
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
February 16 2014 17:42 GMT
#2811
On February 17 2014 02:41 Lorning wrote:
ugh Apollo, that blazer is awful

Really? I quite like it o_O
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44306 Posts
February 16 2014 17:42 GMT
#2812
On February 17 2014 02:39 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 02:36 bo1b wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:35 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:34 Squat wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:28 Xinzoe wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:27 Godwrath wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:26 pmp10 wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:25 eurTsItniH wrote:
A PvP final is pretty likely isn't it?

Was JD looking bad against Patience?
Didn't see the games.

I am confident on JD destroying hero.


Only if JD takes his jacket off.

JD actually has a pretty good track record against Hero, which is weird since Hero, at least on paper seems like a player who would give JD fits.

I don't know, JD has looked thoroughly unimpressive so far in HotS, but if he can beat Patience, he should be able to beat Hero.

Have you been watching a different JD the last 6 months or so than the rest of us...?

He's looked unimpressive for majority of games in 2014 at least, and early 2013 he looked fucking horrid vs protoss, and every zerg was losing vT for a while. So he's kind of right

Again...have you people been watching a completely different JD than the rest of us? His vP has improved *drastically* so I'm not sure why you're even bringing that up.

I will agree that his previous tournament he looked completely off, but the entire second half of 2013 was pretty much complete ownage from him, and he's back on form this tournament. I don't really understand how you can argue.

I remember JD wiping out every single protoss and dropping only a single map during his run at wcs global finals s2 2013. He was facing all kinds of protoss. From the overhyped "solid" protoss like rain. Even to the hyped First. It was shocking to watch every single toss being outplayed. Then proceeded to lose against bomber.
this is a quote
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-16 17:42:50
February 16 2014 17:42 GMT
#2813
Please Jaedong and Polt
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nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
February 16 2014 17:42 GMT
#2814
On February 17 2014 02:42 Fhiz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 02:41 Lorning wrote:
ugh Apollo, that blazer is awful


it was better then tod's short sleeved dress shirt with the top 3 buttons undone at sao paulo


really, who cares

when esports becomes a dressing contest im outa here
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illidanx
Profile Joined November 2011
United States973 Posts
February 16 2014 17:42 GMT
#2815
GO GO RAIN! FULFILL YOUR KESPA DESTINY!!!!
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VeNoM HaZ Skill
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1528 Posts
February 16 2014 17:43 GMT
#2816
On February 17 2014 02:40 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 02:38 VeNoM HaZ Skill wrote:
I don't even blame Hero. When the maps are inexplicably absolutely irrefutably fucking garbage, why not abuse them? Terrans did it for years in BW. Sure the MSC is finally being recognized as being more OP than the defiler, but the maps are still a large part of controlling balance, especially in between the oh so frequent patches.

Let's not be too hasty here...wait, what am I saying?! This is TL! Carry on.

Fair enough. Defilers allowed GGPlay to win a final. Clearly worse than the MSC.
#1 MMA fan! I like you too Taeja. Still patiently waiting for the Crown Prince to become the King.
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
February 16 2014 17:43 GMT
#2817
Can't pick a favorite, they're both playing fantastically and I love both of these players so much. Might have to root for Rain since he's my first favorite pro, but I do want to see that Polt vs JD finals.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
February 16 2014 17:43 GMT
#2818
On February 17 2014 02:41 Lorning wrote:
ugh Apollo, that blazer is awful


That dirty e-sports caster money doesn't buy you style

jkjk
Zerg for Life
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
February 16 2014 17:43 GMT
#2819
On February 17 2014 02:41 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 02:39 goody153 wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:37 KelsierSC wrote:
I am really surprised how much people like discussing balance rather than enjoying epic games.

For me the fun in this game comes from talking about cool shit and awesome games
rather than random balance discussion which I don't understand because I am not a pro.

Actually there wasn't balance discussion much and this thread was pretty neat. Until hero decided to cheese innovation 2 times hell broke lose.


Yeh I wasn't specifically targetting this thread it just seems to happen a lot.

I mean I am trying to avoid reddit and I never go on twitch chat because of the balance whine and TL is usually a bit more reasonable.

It just surprises me that people still enjoy discussing balance rather than epic shit

Well, that last series was anything but epic lol

For the rest of the day I've been too busy jizzing over all the amazing games haha
www.twitch.tv/krazy Best Stream Quality NA @KClarkSC2
Fhiz
Profile Joined October 2013
361 Posts
February 16 2014 17:43 GMT
#2820
On February 17 2014 02:42 nkr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 02:42 Fhiz wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:41 Lorning wrote:
ugh Apollo, that blazer is awful


it was better then tod's short sleeved dress shirt with the top 3 buttons undone at sao paulo


really, who cares

when esports becomes a dressing contest im outa here



It's a pretty important aspect to broadcasting no matter where you are/ who your audience is. You're most likely more affected by it then you think.
girls generation make u feel da heat
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