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On February 17 2014 02:34 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 02:28 Xinzoe wrote:On February 17 2014 02:27 Godwrath wrote:On February 17 2014 02:26 pmp10 wrote:On February 17 2014 02:25 eurTsItniH wrote:
A PvP final is pretty likely isn't it? Was JD looking bad against Patience? Didn't see the games. I am confident on JD destroying hero. Only if JD takes his jacket off. JD actually has a pretty good track record against Hero, which is weird since Hero, at least on paper seems like a player who would give JD fits. I don't know, JD has looked thoroughly unimpressive so far in HotS, but if he can beat Patience, he should be able to beat Hero.
JD is the second best zerg. he looks anything but unimpressive.
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On February 17 2014 02:33 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Papa White-Ra has spoken! You can't argue with him.
+ Show Spoiler +Good to hear from him, am somewhat worried about him with the situation in the Ukraine.
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On February 17 2014 02:35 KrazyTrumpet wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 02:34 Squat wrote:On February 17 2014 02:28 Xinzoe wrote:On February 17 2014 02:27 Godwrath wrote:On February 17 2014 02:26 pmp10 wrote:On February 17 2014 02:25 eurTsItniH wrote:
A PvP final is pretty likely isn't it? Was JD looking bad against Patience? Didn't see the games. I am confident on JD destroying hero. Only if JD takes his jacket off. JD actually has a pretty good track record against Hero, which is weird since Hero, at least on paper seems like a player who would give JD fits. I don't know, JD has looked thoroughly unimpressive so far in HotS, but if he can beat Patience, he should be able to beat Hero. Have you been watching a different JD the last 6 months or so than the rest of us...?
He's looked unimpressive for majority of games in 2014 at least, and early 2013 he looked fucking horrid vs protoss, and every zerg was losing vT for a while. So he's kind of right
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On February 17 2014 02:35 KrazyTrumpet wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 02:34 Squat wrote:On February 17 2014 02:28 Xinzoe wrote:On February 17 2014 02:27 Godwrath wrote:On February 17 2014 02:26 pmp10 wrote:On February 17 2014 02:25 eurTsItniH wrote:
A PvP final is pretty likely isn't it? Was JD looking bad against Patience? Didn't see the games. I am confident on JD destroying hero. Only if JD takes his jacket off. JD actually has a pretty good track record against Hero, which is weird since Hero, at least on paper seems like a player who would give JD fits. I don't know, JD has looked thoroughly unimpressive so far in HotS, but if he can beat Patience, he should be able to beat Hero. Have you been watching a different JD the last 6 months or so than the rest of us...?
Ahah yeah... "JD unimpressive in hots"... What the fuck man ! Top 5 zerg in the world, unimpressive.. >_>
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On February 17 2014 02:34 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 02:28 Xinzoe wrote:On February 17 2014 02:27 Godwrath wrote:On February 17 2014 02:26 pmp10 wrote:On February 17 2014 02:25 eurTsItniH wrote:
A PvP final is pretty likely isn't it? Was JD looking bad against Patience? Didn't see the games. I am confident on JD destroying hero. Only if JD takes his jacket off. JD actually has a pretty good track record against Hero, which is weird since Hero, at least on paper seems like a player who would give JD fits. I don't know, JD has looked thoroughly unimpressive so far in HotS, but if he can beat Patience, he should be able to beat Hero.
Are you sure you're watching the same HotS as the rest of us?
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On February 17 2014 02:36 felisconcolori wrote:Papa White-Ra has spoken! You can't argue with him. + Show Spoiler +Good to hear from him, am somewhat worried about him with the situation in the Ukraine.
I believe he's in Poland at the moment.
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On February 17 2014 02:33 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 02:30 DaedricTV wrote:
Why are people even arguing about this?
Innovation played worst in every game and lost 3-0, that's the way it's meant to be. At present terrans are feeling like they're playing coinflips against Protoss, except the coin has 8 sides and they need to call the right one or they die. Also sometimes they die anyway Frankly it's hard to blame them for feeling that way and this series didn't do much to dispel that since 2 games were flatout cheese.
I liken it to playing russian roulette with a semi-automatic.
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On February 17 2014 02:33 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 02:30 DaedricTV wrote:
Why are people even arguing about this?
Innovation played worst in every game and lost 3-0, that's the way it's meant to be. At present terrans are feeling like they're playing coinflips against Protoss, except the coin has 8 sides and they need to call the right one or they die. Also sometimes they die anyway Frankly it's hard to blame them for feeling that way and this series didn't do much to dispel that since 2 games were flatout cheese.
Perfect explanation.
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On February 17 2014 02:28 Eliezar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 02:24 travis wrote:
I am pretty amused by people who are balance whining after game 3?
Clearly innovation had poor decisionmaking that game..
whatever lol I thought Innovation had a lead at that point...and decided to base trade... In fact, his decisions in all three games were pretty darn dubious. Game 1 was WAY too greedy and just blind counter to oracles...because?Game 2 was weird...he just let the mothership core scout his base, he doesn't have an answer to DTs...happens, but his scans and attempts to kill dts were comically bad Game 3 was just so dumb...looking solid, getting an earlier third and then pull a :+:Lokus:+:...protoss moves out, drop your entire army and start a basetrade. What? And if he was going to do that why didn't he start walling off the top of his ramp and building bunkers so he wouldn't just die instantly to storm? Just bad play.
Don't know about the other games. But I do think that Innovation probably chose to open anti oracle because the map is habitation station.
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On February 17 2014 02:35 Tanzklaue wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 02:33 TotalBiscuit wrote:On February 17 2014 02:30 DaedricTV wrote:
Why are people even arguing about this?
Innovation played worst in every game and lost 3-0, that's the way it's meant to be. At present terrans are feeling like they're playing coinflips against Protoss, except the coin has 8 sides and they need to call the right one or they die. Also sometimes they die anyway Frankly it's hard to blame them for feeling that way and this series didn't do much to dispel that since 2 games were flatout cheese. and then you have people like polt dispatching protoss despite them cheesing. really, innovation didn't play that good here. protoss is strong, yes, but for a suposed top 5 terran, it shouldn't be this crushing.
Hey, let's be fair, Polt is just on another level. It's so hard to be as good as Polt when you're playing full time instead of going to school.
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On February 17 2014 02:36 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 02:34 Squat wrote:On February 17 2014 02:28 Xinzoe wrote:On February 17 2014 02:27 Godwrath wrote:On February 17 2014 02:26 pmp10 wrote:On February 17 2014 02:25 eurTsItniH wrote:
A PvP final is pretty likely isn't it? Was JD looking bad against Patience? Didn't see the games. I am confident on JD destroying hero. Only if JD takes his jacket off. JD actually has a pretty good track record against Hero, which is weird since Hero, at least on paper seems like a player who would give JD fits. I don't know, JD has looked thoroughly unimpressive so far in HotS, but if he can beat Patience, he should be able to beat Hero. Are you sure you're watching the same HotS as the rest of us?
ugh my bad, I meant 2014. Disregard earlier statement.
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I am really surprised how much people like discussing balance rather than enjoying epic games.
For me the fun in this game comes from talking about cool shit and awesome games
rather than random balance discussion which I don't understand because I am not a pro.
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On February 17 2014 02:37 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 02:36 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On February 17 2014 02:34 Squat wrote:On February 17 2014 02:28 Xinzoe wrote:On February 17 2014 02:27 Godwrath wrote:On February 17 2014 02:26 pmp10 wrote:On February 17 2014 02:25 eurTsItniH wrote:
A PvP final is pretty likely isn't it? Was JD looking bad against Patience? Didn't see the games. I am confident on JD destroying hero. Only if JD takes his jacket off. JD actually has a pretty good track record against Hero, which is weird since Hero, at least on paper seems like a player who would give JD fits. I don't know, JD has looked thoroughly unimpressive so far in HotS, but if he can beat Patience, he should be able to beat Hero. Are you sure you're watching the same HotS as the rest of us? ugh my bad, I meant 2014. Disregard earlier statement.
That I agree with.
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On February 17 2014 02:36 royalroadweed wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 02:28 Eliezar wrote:On February 17 2014 02:24 travis wrote:
I am pretty amused by people who are balance whining after game 3?
Clearly innovation had poor decisionmaking that game..
whatever lol I thought Innovation had a lead at that point...and decided to base trade... In fact, his decisions in all three games were pretty darn dubious. Game 1 was WAY too greedy and just blind counter to oracles...because?Game 2 was weird...he just let the mothership core scout his base, he doesn't have an answer to DTs...happens, but his scans and attempts to kill dts were comically bad Game 3 was just so dumb...looking solid, getting an earlier third and then pull a :+:Lokus:+:...protoss moves out, drop your entire army and start a basetrade. What? And if he was going to do that why didn't he start walling off the top of his ramp and building bunkers so he wouldn't just die instantly to storm? Just bad play. Don't know about the other games. But I do think that Innovation probably chose to open anti oracle because the map is habitation station.
That was on Frost though, really don't know what he was doing there
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On February 17 2014 02:36 Tanzklaue wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 02:34 Squat wrote:On February 17 2014 02:28 Xinzoe wrote:On February 17 2014 02:27 Godwrath wrote:On February 17 2014 02:26 pmp10 wrote:On February 17 2014 02:25 eurTsItniH wrote:
A PvP final is pretty likely isn't it? Was JD looking bad against Patience? Didn't see the games. I am confident on JD destroying hero. Only if JD takes his jacket off. JD actually has a pretty good track record against Hero, which is weird since Hero, at least on paper seems like a player who would give JD fits. I don't know, JD has looked thoroughly unimpressive so far in HotS, but if he can beat Patience, he should be able to beat Hero. JD is the second best zerg. he looks anything but unimpressive.
To be honest, right now he is looking really shaky, he may be the second best Zerg in 2013, but so far in 2014 RorO is looking great. So I would say that Soulkey and RorO are two best right now, other are behind.
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On February 17 2014 02:30 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 02:28 YoloSwaggins wrote:On February 17 2014 02:26 Ramiz1989 wrote:On February 17 2014 02:24 YoloSwaggins wrote:On February 17 2014 02:23 SoulCapsule wrote:On February 17 2014 02:22 Nomzter wrote:
Innovation is probably more overrated than TLO bullshit. ah shut it with this crap. if anyone out of these 2 players is overrated it's not innovation Well, it surely isn't HerO that just 3-0'ed Innovation... yeah because a series where hero cheesed the crap out of him totally proves stuff about him as a whole. gotcha I've never said that Innovation is overrated, all I am saying that HerO isn't either.
hero is the definition of overrated. he is pretty good, but a throng of fanboys always sing odes about him, they said he is the best protoss in the world at 1-1-1 era, they said he innovated pvz, etc etc. they are always hugely exaggerating stuff about him. now hero beat a terran who isn't exactly famous for tvp in the time where pvt is considered protoss favored, with the most op openings that are getting nerfed soon.
basically you shouldn't use this series to prove anything.
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On February 17 2014 02:36 Insoleet wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 02:35 KrazyTrumpet wrote:On February 17 2014 02:34 Squat wrote:On February 17 2014 02:28 Xinzoe wrote:On February 17 2014 02:27 Godwrath wrote:On February 17 2014 02:26 pmp10 wrote:On February 17 2014 02:25 eurTsItniH wrote:
A PvP final is pretty likely isn't it? Was JD looking bad against Patience? Didn't see the games. I am confident on JD destroying hero. Only if JD takes his jacket off. JD actually has a pretty good track record against Hero, which is weird since Hero, at least on paper seems like a player who would give JD fits. I don't know, JD has looked thoroughly unimpressive so far in HotS, but if he can beat Patience, he should be able to beat Hero. Have you been watching a different JD the last 6 months or so than the rest of us...? Ahah yeah... "JD unimpressive in hots"... What the fuck man ! Top 5 zerg in the world, unimpressive.. >_>
I think he should be considered top 1 after last years last few months tbh. He was, imo the most successful player for the last 4 months of the year.
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On February 17 2014 02:37 KelsierSC wrote:
I am really surprised how much people like discussing balance rather than enjoying epic games.
For me the fun in this game comes from talking about cool shit and awesome games
rather than random balance discussion which I don't understand because I am not a pro.
Not much of balance discussion was raised before the Inno vs HerO series (mind you that was the first awful series of the day).
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