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[IEM] Cologne Day 4 - Ro8, Ro4 and Grand Finals - Page 138

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Okay calm down folks, stop balance whining or the bans are going to get long.
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
February 16 2014 17:32 GMT
#2741
On February 17 2014 02:31 Inflicted_ wrote:
Interesting that both Polt & Jaedong vP'd their way to the Ro4 (and possibly finals)

MURICA.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
February 16 2014 17:32 GMT
#2742
Qxc just went ahead and became part of the IEM crew, they should look into paying him
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
February 16 2014 17:32 GMT
#2743
On February 17 2014 02:31 Inflicted_ wrote:
Interesting that both Polt & Jaedong vP'd their way to the Ro4 (and possibly finals)

Gives me confidence that we can see that Polt vs JD rematch finals.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-16 17:33:50
February 16 2014 17:33 GMT
#2744
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-16 17:33:45
February 16 2014 17:33 GMT
#2745
On February 17 2014 02:30 DaedricTV wrote:
Why are people even arguing about this?

Innovation played worst in every game and lost 3-0, that's the way it's meant to be.


At present terrans are feeling like they're playing coinflips against Protoss, except the coin has 8 sides and they need to call the right one or they die. Also sometimes they die anyway

Frankly it's hard to blame them for feeling that way and this series didn't do much to dispel that since 2 games were flatout cheese.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
February 16 2014 17:33 GMT
#2746
I can't stop giggling after that last series
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
February 16 2014 17:33 GMT
#2747
Good analysis by qxc, he should do more at future events.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
February 16 2014 17:33 GMT
#2748
On February 17 2014 02:33 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 02:30 DaedricTV wrote:
Why are people even arguing about this?

Innovation played worst in every game and lost 3-0, that's the way it's meant to be.


At present terrans are feeling like they're playing coinflips against Protoss, except the coin has 8 sides and they need to call the right one or they die.

Frankly it's hard to blame them for feeling that way and this series didn't do much to dispel that since 2 games were flatout cheese.

And the third was a fake out
www.twitch.tv/krazy Best Stream Quality NA @KClarkSC2
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-16 17:37:58
February 16 2014 17:34 GMT
#2749
On February 17 2014 02:28 Xinzoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 02:27 Godwrath wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:26 pmp10 wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:25 eurTsItniH wrote:
A PvP final is pretty likely isn't it?

Was JD looking bad against Patience?
Didn't see the games.

I am confident on JD destroying hero.


Only if JD takes his jacket off.

JD actually has a pretty good track record against Hero, which is weird since Hero, at least on paper seems like a player who would give JD fits.

I don't know, JD has looked thoroughly unimpressive so far in 2014, but if he can beat Patience, he should be able to beat Hero.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Ufnal
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland1435 Posts
February 16 2014 17:34 GMT
#2750
On February 17 2014 02:28 Eliezar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 02:24 travis wrote:
I am pretty amused by people who are balance whining after game 3?
Clearly innovation had poor decisionmaking that game..
whatever lol


I thought Innovation had a lead at that point...and decided to base trade...

In fact, his decisions in all three games were pretty darn dubious.

Game 1 was WAY too greedy and just blind counter to oracles...because?
Game 2 was weird...he just let the mothership core scout his base, he doesn't have an answer to DTs...happens, but his scans and attempts to kill dts were comically bad
Game 3 was just so dumb...looking solid, getting an earlier third and then pull a :+:Lokus:+:...protoss moves out, drop your entire army and start a basetrade. What?

And if he was going to do that why didn't he start walling off the top of his ramp and building bunkers so he wouldn't just die instantly to storm?

Just bad play.



I'm beginning to wonder if TvP losses could not at least in some part be a result of people overhyping Protoss, which causes Terran players to get too stressed, overreact and generally do weird things due to too much pressure.
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
February 16 2014 17:34 GMT
#2751
On February 17 2014 02:33 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 02:33 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:30 DaedricTV wrote:
Why are people even arguing about this?

Innovation played worst in every game and lost 3-0, that's the way it's meant to be.


At present terrans are feeling like they're playing coinflips against Protoss, except the coin has 8 sides and they need to call the right one or they die.

Frankly it's hard to blame them for feeling that way and this series didn't do much to dispel that since 2 games were flatout cheese.

And the third was a fake out

The third was a failure you mean, except it didn't matter
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
February 16 2014 17:34 GMT
#2752
On February 17 2014 02:33 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Good analysis by qxc, he should do more at future events.

Yeah, I like him. Always very smart. Has a tendency to be a little long winded sometimes, but w/e
www.twitch.tv/krazy Best Stream Quality NA @KClarkSC2
SiroKO
Profile Joined February 2012
France721 Posts
February 16 2014 17:34 GMT
#2753
On February 17 2014 02:32 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 02:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:29 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:28 Naphal wrote:
the amount of baiting, provoking and gloating of (nonpro)protossplayers in this thread is hilarious, i will try to measure it up to the whine when the nerfs go live <.<

Most of us who are still rational Protoss players welcome the changes.

I welcome the changes, but I love to see the little Terrans whine when Inno crumbles, it's even better than watching Inno crumble

Yeah, I just don't understand why people keep hyping him up.


Would be a shame to stop supporting him after losing in a MU claimed to be unfair by pretty much everybody.
Our envy always last longer than the happiness of those we envy
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
February 16 2014 17:35 GMT
#2754
On February 17 2014 02:34 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 02:28 Xinzoe wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:27 Godwrath wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:26 pmp10 wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:25 eurTsItniH wrote:
A PvP final is pretty likely isn't it?

Was JD looking bad against Patience?
Didn't see the games.

I am confident on JD destroying hero.


Only if JD takes his jacket off.

JD actually has a pretty good track record against Hero, which is weird since Hero, at least on paper seems like a player who would give JD fits.

I don't know, JD has looked thoroughly unimpressive so far in HotS, but if he can beat Patience, he should be able to beat Hero.

Have you been watching a different JD the last 6 months or so than the rest of us...?
www.twitch.tv/krazy Best Stream Quality NA @KClarkSC2
Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1420 Posts
February 16 2014 17:35 GMT
#2755
On February 17 2014 02:33 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 02:30 DaedricTV wrote:
Why are people even arguing about this?

Innovation played worst in every game and lost 3-0, that's the way it's meant to be.


At present terrans are feeling like they're playing coinflips against Protoss, except the coin has 8 sides and they need to call the right one or they die. Also sometimes they die anyway

Frankly it's hard to blame them for feeling that way and this series didn't do much to dispel that since 2 games were flatout cheese.

and then you have people like polt dispatching protoss despite them cheesing.

really, innovation didn't play that good here. protoss is strong, yes, but for a suposed top 5 terran, it shouldn't be this crushing.
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
February 16 2014 17:35 GMT
#2756
On February 17 2014 02:34 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 02:33 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:33 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:30 DaedricTV wrote:
Why are people even arguing about this?

Innovation played worst in every game and lost 3-0, that's the way it's meant to be.


At present terrans are feeling like they're playing coinflips against Protoss, except the coin has 8 sides and they need to call the right one or they die.

Frankly it's hard to blame them for feeling that way and this series didn't do much to dispel that since 2 games were flatout cheese.

And the third was a fake out

The third was a failure you mean, except it didn't matter

No, that's not what I meant at all.
www.twitch.tv/krazy Best Stream Quality NA @KClarkSC2
plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
February 16 2014 17:35 GMT
#2757
Omg Polt vs Rain next. >_< Go Polt. My spirit power to you!
tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
February 16 2014 17:35 GMT
#2758
On February 17 2014 02:34 Squat wrote:
I don't know, JD has looked thoroughly unimpressive so far in HotS, but if he can beat Patience, he should be able to beat Hero.


What the hell is your definition of impressive?
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10156 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-16 17:37:11
February 16 2014 17:36 GMT
#2759
On February 17 2014 02:34 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 02:28 Xinzoe wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:27 Godwrath wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:26 pmp10 wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:25 eurTsItniH wrote:
A PvP final is pretty likely isn't it?

Was JD looking bad against Patience?
Didn't see the games.

I am confident on JD destroying hero.


Only if JD takes his jacket off.

JD actually has a pretty good track record against Hero, which is weird since Hero, at least on paper seems like a player who would give JD fits.

I don't know, JD has looked thoroughly unimpressive so far in HotS, but if he can beat Patience, he should be able to beat Hero.

Dude, unimpressive after his 2013 is such a wrong word.
And yeah, as they were practicing together on the EGTL house, JD always had the upper hand against him. I don't know how they will fair later on, but if i had to bet, i would be on Jaedong.
Abominous
Profile Joined March 2013
Croatia1625 Posts
February 16 2014 17:36 GMT
#2760
On February 17 2014 02:34 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 02:28 Xinzoe wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:27 Godwrath wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:26 pmp10 wrote:
On February 17 2014 02:25 eurTsItniH wrote:
A PvP final is pretty likely isn't it?

Was JD looking bad against Patience?
Didn't see the games.

I am confident on JD destroying hero.


Only if JD takes his jacket off.

JD actually has a pretty good track record against Hero, which is weird since Hero, at least on paper seems like a player who would give JD fits.

I don't know, JD has looked thoroughly unimpressive so far in HotS, but if he can beat Patience, he should be able to beat Hero.

What?
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