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I guess Jjakji's TvP is actually the most comparable to Polts. Maybe Maru.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On February 15 2014 23:48 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2014 23:47 stuchiu wrote:On February 15 2014 23:45 Mozdk wrote:On February 15 2014 23:43 stuchiu wrote:On February 15 2014 23:41 Mozdk wrote:
Aligulac has polt at 73% to beat Mana in a BO3. Argh! Polt is weak against Soul Trains and Soul Planes. If Mana realizes this, he could win. So you wouldn't classify Soul Train as a PvZ build? JUst cause it's only used in PvZ, doesn't mean you can't use it in PvT as Parting has proved time and time and time again. When did he sentry immortal all in terrans?
Near the end of WoL. I forget the games, but I remember it cause I stole the build and won with it on ladder.
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When did Mana have the best PvT in the world?
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On February 15 2014 23:52 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2014 23:48 opterown wrote:On February 15 2014 23:47 stuchiu wrote:On February 15 2014 23:45 Mozdk wrote:On February 15 2014 23:43 stuchiu wrote:On February 15 2014 23:41 Mozdk wrote:
Aligulac has polt at 73% to beat Mana in a BO3. Argh! Polt is weak against Soul Trains and Soul Planes. If Mana realizes this, he could win. So you wouldn't classify Soul Train as a PvZ build? JUst cause it's only used in PvZ, doesn't mean you can't use it in PvT as Parting has proved time and time and time again. When did he sentry immortal all in terrans? Near the end of WoL. I forget the games, but I remember it cause I stole the build and won with it on ladder.
iirc it was on 1 base and/or proxied though?
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On February 15 2014 23:53 Nirel wrote:
When did Mana have the best PvT in the world?
Never?
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On February 15 2014 23:53 Nirel wrote:
When did Mana have the best PvT in the world?
when he was the only protoss to beat puma or something, it was only for a short period
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On February 15 2014 23:51 Mozdk wrote:
I guess Jjakji's TvP is actually the most comparable to Polts. Maybe Maru.
I dunno, Polt style is kind of unique.
Mvp used a similar style against Mana in fight night, doing a three pronged attack on Alterzim after Mana had established a third. Mana couldn't handle it at all and just fell apart.
I think Polt is very favored here in this match. Cheering for Mana though!
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On February 15 2014 23:49 m0ck wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2014 23:37 stuchiu wrote:On February 15 2014 23:34 Xoronius wrote:On February 15 2014 23:19 Nirel wrote:On February 15 2014 23:14 Xoronius wrote:On February 15 2014 23:13 ACrow wrote:On February 15 2014 23:12 Noonius wrote:
why hasn't MaNa found a new team yet? With games like that, it shouldn't be a problem for him to find a team
and he is well spoken, funny and marketable - actually he is exactly what teams should be looking for in a foreign player. I think the main reason is, that he is also pretty expensive, as one of the top-5 foreign players of all time. I don't think top 5 all time though: Stephano, Naniwa, Thorzain, Idra, Huk, Scarlett... I know, I´m pretty late to the party, but since I was watching the game at that time, I´m responding now: Stephano and Nani are pretty much without a doubt the top 2. HuK has won 3 premiers, so I put him in as well. After that, there are 4 guys with 2 premiers: MaNa, Nerchio, ThorZaIN, Idra. Of those, Nerchio won by far the most money and MaNa has the most overall medals, so I put them in as well. Neither Scarlett or Sen has ever won a premier, so they still have some way to go. Sen's multiple 3rd place finishes (Most notably at NASL's and Blizzcons) and his 1st at ESL this year are more impressive than most of the wins Mana, Nerchio and Idra ever had. When mana won ESWC, he won against Stephano at the top of his ZvP reign (and he had the most dominating ZvP in the whole of SC2) and forGG in the final. I don't see how Sen's result is better.
Getting 3rd in WCS 2012 over Curious (Who next season got top 4 in GSL) and Hero in winter was more impressive to me.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On February 15 2014 23:53 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2014 23:52 stuchiu wrote:On February 15 2014 23:48 opterown wrote:On February 15 2014 23:47 stuchiu wrote:On February 15 2014 23:45 Mozdk wrote:On February 15 2014 23:43 stuchiu wrote:On February 15 2014 23:41 Mozdk wrote:
Aligulac has polt at 73% to beat Mana in a BO3. Argh! Polt is weak against Soul Trains and Soul Planes. If Mana realizes this, he could win. So you wouldn't classify Soul Train as a PvZ build? JUst cause it's only used in PvZ, doesn't mean you can't use it in PvT as Parting has proved time and time and time again. When did he sentry immortal all in terrans? Near the end of WoL. I forget the games, but I remember it cause I stole the build and won with it on ladder. iirc it was on 1 base and/or proxied though?
There were 3 versions I used. Proxy was the choya version though.
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On February 15 2014 23:53 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2014 23:52 stuchiu wrote:On February 15 2014 23:48 opterown wrote:On February 15 2014 23:47 stuchiu wrote:On February 15 2014 23:45 Mozdk wrote:On February 15 2014 23:43 stuchiu wrote:On February 15 2014 23:41 Mozdk wrote:
Aligulac has polt at 73% to beat Mana in a BO3. Argh! Polt is weak against Soul Trains and Soul Planes. If Mana realizes this, he could win. So you wouldn't classify Soul Train as a PvZ build? JUst cause it's only used in PvZ, doesn't mean you can't use it in PvT as Parting has proved time and time and time again. When did he sentry immortal all in terrans? Near the end of WoL. I forget the games, but I remember it cause I stole the build and won with it on ladder. iirc it was on 1 base and/or proxied though?
He is talking about that weird map with a 3rd on high ground across a choke to your nat ramp. It was in GSL but never ladder. I think.
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On February 15 2014 23:52 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2014 23:48 opterown wrote:On February 15 2014 23:47 stuchiu wrote:On February 15 2014 23:45 Mozdk wrote:On February 15 2014 23:43 stuchiu wrote:On February 15 2014 23:41 Mozdk wrote:
Aligulac has polt at 73% to beat Mana in a BO3. Argh! Polt is weak against Soul Trains and Soul Planes. If Mana realizes this, he could win. So you wouldn't classify Soul Train as a PvZ build? JUst cause it's only used in PvZ, doesn't mean you can't use it in PvT as Parting has proved time and time and time again. When did he sentry immortal all in terrans? Near the end of WoL. I forget the games, but I remember it cause I stole the build and won with it on ladder.
PartinG vs ByuN, Icarus, Code S RO32 Season 1 2013.
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On February 15 2014 23:53 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2014 23:49 m0ck wrote:On February 15 2014 23:37 stuchiu wrote:On February 15 2014 23:34 Xoronius wrote:On February 15 2014 23:19 Nirel wrote:On February 15 2014 23:14 Xoronius wrote:On February 15 2014 23:13 ACrow wrote:On February 15 2014 23:12 Noonius wrote:
why hasn't MaNa found a new team yet? With games like that, it shouldn't be a problem for him to find a team
and he is well spoken, funny and marketable - actually he is exactly what teams should be looking for in a foreign player. I think the main reason is, that he is also pretty expensive, as one of the top-5 foreign players of all time. I don't think top 5 all time though: Stephano, Naniwa, Thorzain, Idra, Huk, Scarlett... I know, I´m pretty late to the party, but since I was watching the game at that time, I´m responding now: Stephano and Nani are pretty much without a doubt the top 2. HuK has won 3 premiers, so I put him in as well. After that, there are 4 guys with 2 premiers: MaNa, Nerchio, ThorZaIN, Idra. Of those, Nerchio won by far the most money and MaNa has the most overall medals, so I put them in as well. Neither Scarlett or Sen has ever won a premier, so they still have some way to go. Sen's multiple 3rd place finishes (Most notably at NASL's and Blizzcons) and his 1st at ESL this year are more impressive than most of the wins Mana, Nerchio and Idra ever had. When mana won ESWC, he won against Stephano at the top of his ZvP reign (and he had the most dominating ZvP in the whole of SC2) and forGG in the final. I don't see how Sen's result is better. Getting 3rd in WCS 2012 over Curious (Who next season got top 4 in GSL) and Hero in winter was more impressive to me.
that game 5 against hero was glorious
or horrible, if you are a hero fan
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On February 15 2014 23:53 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2014 23:53 Nirel wrote:
When did Mana have the best PvT in the world? when he was the only protoss to beat puma or something, it was only for a short period
it was in the 1-1-1 era when protoss had something like 34% winrate in gsl. Mana was like the only protoss to beat terrans for a time
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On February 15 2014 23:54 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2014 23:52 stuchiu wrote:On February 15 2014 23:48 opterown wrote:On February 15 2014 23:47 stuchiu wrote:On February 15 2014 23:45 Mozdk wrote:On February 15 2014 23:43 stuchiu wrote:On February 15 2014 23:41 Mozdk wrote:
Aligulac has polt at 73% to beat Mana in a BO3. Argh! Polt is weak against Soul Trains and Soul Planes. If Mana realizes this, he could win. So you wouldn't classify Soul Train as a PvZ build? JUst cause it's only used in PvZ, doesn't mean you can't use it in PvT as Parting has proved time and time and time again. When did he sentry immortal all in terrans? Near the end of WoL. I forget the games, but I remember it cause I stole the build and won with it on ladder. PartinG vs ByuN, Icarus, Code S RO32 Season 1 2013.
Do you have a document with all these games or just a great memory?
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On February 15 2014 23:56 DJHelium wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2014 23:54 TheDwf wrote:On February 15 2014 23:52 stuchiu wrote:On February 15 2014 23:48 opterown wrote:On February 15 2014 23:47 stuchiu wrote:On February 15 2014 23:45 Mozdk wrote:On February 15 2014 23:43 stuchiu wrote:On February 15 2014 23:41 Mozdk wrote:
Aligulac has polt at 73% to beat Mana in a BO3. Argh! Polt is weak against Soul Trains and Soul Planes. If Mana realizes this, he could win. So you wouldn't classify Soul Train as a PvZ build? JUst cause it's only used in PvZ, doesn't mean you can't use it in PvT as Parting has proved time and time and time again. When did he sentry immortal all in terrans? Near the end of WoL. I forget the games, but I remember it cause I stole the build and won with it on ladder. PartinG vs ByuN, Icarus, Code S RO32 Season 1 2013. Do you have a document with all these games or just a great memory?
Both. ;p
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
Did anyone see what the third map was?
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On February 15 2014 23:53 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2014 23:53 Nirel wrote:
When did Mana have the best PvT in the world? when he was the only protoss to beat puma or something, it was only for a short period
It feels like too much of a stretch to me btw.
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On February 15 2014 23:54 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2014 23:53 opterown wrote:On February 15 2014 23:52 stuchiu wrote:On February 15 2014 23:48 opterown wrote:On February 15 2014 23:47 stuchiu wrote:On February 15 2014 23:45 Mozdk wrote:On February 15 2014 23:43 stuchiu wrote:On February 15 2014 23:41 Mozdk wrote:
Aligulac has polt at 73% to beat Mana in a BO3. Argh! Polt is weak against Soul Trains and Soul Planes. If Mana realizes this, he could win. So you wouldn't classify Soul Train as a PvZ build? JUst cause it's only used in PvZ, doesn't mean you can't use it in PvT as Parting has proved time and time and time again. When did he sentry immortal all in terrans? Near the end of WoL. I forget the games, but I remember it cause I stole the build and won with it on ladder. iirc it was on 1 base and/or proxied though? There were 3 versions I used. Proxy was the choya version though.
I stole the proxy one from Welmu, but it works with inbase as well. also there is 1base and 2 base version too, and also one which has +1 armor
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On February 15 2014 23:56 Lorning wrote:
Did anyone see what the third map was?
Heavy Rain.
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