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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
February 15 2014 14:44 GMT
#721
Hello people. How in the hell mana beat JD ? Good games ?
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Abominous
Profile Joined March 2013
Croatia1625 Posts
February 15 2014 14:44 GMT
#722
On February 15 2014 23:44 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 23:44 Abominous wrote:
So with Jaedong out of the tournament, give me someone to cheer for?


he isnt out

As if he's going to beat Stardust.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
February 15 2014 14:44 GMT
#723
Poll: Polt vs MaNa?

Polt! (13)
 
68%

MaNa! (6)
 
32%

19 total votes

Your vote: Polt vs MaNa?

(Vote): Polt!
(Vote): MaNa!

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Holytornados
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1022 Posts
February 15 2014 14:44 GMT
#724
MaNa gonna have to go full gosu with his PvT to take this one =S
CLG/Liquid ~~ youtube.com/reddedgaming
HystericaLaughter
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia720 Posts
February 15 2014 14:44 GMT
#725
On February 15 2014 23:44 Abominous wrote:
So with Jaedong out of the tournament, give me someone to cheer for?


He isn't out yet! Just in the loser's match of the group against Stardust.
My wife for hire! - Zealot
Holytornados
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1022 Posts
February 15 2014 14:45 GMT
#726
On February 15 2014 23:44 FFW_Rude wrote:
Hello people. How in the hell mana beat JD ? Good games ?


Definitely. You should check them out; all three were entertaining.
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Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
February 15 2014 14:45 GMT
#727
On February 15 2014 23:43 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 23:41 Mozdk wrote:
Aligulac has polt at 73% to beat Mana in a BO3. Argh!


Polt is weak against Soul Trains and Soul Planes. If Mana realizes this, he could win.


So you wouldn't classify Soul Train as a PvZ build?
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Xinzoe
Profile Joined January 2014
Korea (South)2373 Posts
February 15 2014 14:45 GMT
#728
On February 15 2014 23:42 mycro wrote:
Damn I missed MaNa vs Jaedong, was it good?


was great games, but i can't tell if its just the winner playing good or the loser playing horribly. Recommend game 3
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
February 15 2014 14:46 GMT
#729
On February 15 2014 23:45 Holytornados wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 23:44 FFW_Rude wrote:
Hello people. How in the hell mana beat JD ? Good games ?


Definitely. You should check them out; all three were entertaining.


Great series no doubt.
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
February 15 2014 14:46 GMT
#730
On February 15 2014 23:37 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 23:34 Xoronius wrote:
On February 15 2014 23:19 Nirel wrote:
On February 15 2014 23:14 Xoronius wrote:
On February 15 2014 23:13 ACrow wrote:
On February 15 2014 23:12 Noonius wrote:
why hasn't MaNa found a new team yet? With games like that, it shouldn't be a problem for him to find a team

and he is well spoken, funny and marketable - actually he is exactly what teams should be looking for in a foreign player.

I think the main reason is, that he is also pretty expensive, as one of the top-5 foreign players of all time.

I don't think top 5 all time though: Stephano, Naniwa, Thorzain, Idra, Huk, Scarlett...

I know, I´m pretty late to the party, but since I was watching the game at that time, I´m responding now:
Stephano and Nani are pretty much without a doubt the top 2. HuK has won 3 premiers, so I put him in as well. After that, there are 4 guys with 2 premiers: MaNa, Nerchio, ThorZaIN, Idra. Of those, Nerchio won by far the most money and MaNa has the most overall medals, so I put them in as well. Neither Scarlett or Sen has ever won a premier, so they still have some way to go.


Sen's multiple 3rd place finishes (Most notably at NASL's and Blizzcons) and his 1st at ESL this year are more impressive than most of the wins Mana, Nerchio and Idra ever had.

I could agree about Idra, but MaNa/Nerchio not only have 2 big tournaments with koreans in their favor, but also multiple second places (MaNa) and periods of absolute online dominance (Nerchio).
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
February 15 2014 14:47 GMT
#731
On February 15 2014 23:45 Mozdk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 23:43 stuchiu wrote:
On February 15 2014 23:41 Mozdk wrote:
Aligulac has polt at 73% to beat Mana in a BO3. Argh!


Polt is weak against Soul Trains and Soul Planes. If Mana realizes this, he could win.


So you wouldn't classify Soul Train as a PvZ build?

A true Soul Train can traverse any terrain.
jjakji fan
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
February 15 2014 14:47 GMT
#732
On February 15 2014 23:45 Mozdk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 23:43 stuchiu wrote:
On February 15 2014 23:41 Mozdk wrote:
Aligulac has polt at 73% to beat Mana in a BO3. Argh!


Polt is weak against Soul Trains and Soul Planes. If Mana realizes this, he could win.


So you wouldn't classify Soul Train as a PvZ build?


JUst cause it's only used in PvZ, doesn't mean you can't use it in PvT as Parting has proved time and time and time again.
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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
February 15 2014 14:47 GMT
#733
On February 15 2014 23:44 FFW_Rude wrote:
Hello people. How in the hell mana beat JD ? Good games ?


I'd say clever builds. Taking on Jaedong mechanically isn't possible, so Mana focused on preparing a good strategy, and it worked out.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 15 2014 14:48 GMT
#734
On February 15 2014 23:47 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 23:45 Mozdk wrote:
On February 15 2014 23:43 stuchiu wrote:
On February 15 2014 23:41 Mozdk wrote:
Aligulac has polt at 73% to beat Mana in a BO3. Argh!


Polt is weak against Soul Trains and Soul Planes. If Mana realizes this, he could win.


So you wouldn't classify Soul Train as a PvZ build?


JUst cause it's only used in PvZ, doesn't mean you can't use it in PvT as Parting has proved time and time and time again.

When did he sentry immortal all in terrans?
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
February 15 2014 14:48 GMT
#735
On February 15 2014 23:47 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 23:45 Mozdk wrote:
On February 15 2014 23:43 stuchiu wrote:
On February 15 2014 23:41 Mozdk wrote:
Aligulac has polt at 73% to beat Mana in a BO3. Argh!


Polt is weak against Soul Trains and Soul Planes. If Mana realizes this, he could win.


So you wouldn't classify Soul Train as a PvZ build?


JUst cause it's only used in PvZ, doesn't mean you can't use it in PvT as Parting has proved time and time and time again.


It's been a while since I've seen it. And as I remember it, it was often proxy'd. And it's not with a not even remotely saturrated nat.
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
February 15 2014 14:48 GMT
#736
On February 15 2014 23:44 Abominous wrote:
So with Jaedong out of the tournament, give me someone to cheer for?


he isn't out yet but always cheers for Polt
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
February 15 2014 14:48 GMT
#737
On February 15 2014 23:47 slowbacontron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 23:45 Mozdk wrote:
On February 15 2014 23:43 stuchiu wrote:
On February 15 2014 23:41 Mozdk wrote:
Aligulac has polt at 73% to beat Mana in a BO3. Argh!


Polt is weak against Soul Trains and Soul Planes. If Mana realizes this, he could win.


So you wouldn't classify Soul Train as a PvZ build?

A true Soul Train can traverse any terrain.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
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m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
February 15 2014 14:49 GMT
#738
On February 15 2014 23:37 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 23:34 Xoronius wrote:
On February 15 2014 23:19 Nirel wrote:
On February 15 2014 23:14 Xoronius wrote:
On February 15 2014 23:13 ACrow wrote:
On February 15 2014 23:12 Noonius wrote:
why hasn't MaNa found a new team yet? With games like that, it shouldn't be a problem for him to find a team

and he is well spoken, funny and marketable - actually he is exactly what teams should be looking for in a foreign player.

I think the main reason is, that he is also pretty expensive, as one of the top-5 foreign players of all time.

I don't think top 5 all time though: Stephano, Naniwa, Thorzain, Idra, Huk, Scarlett...

I know, I´m pretty late to the party, but since I was watching the game at that time, I´m responding now:
Stephano and Nani are pretty much without a doubt the top 2. HuK has won 3 premiers, so I put him in as well. After that, there are 4 guys with 2 premiers: MaNa, Nerchio, ThorZaIN, Idra. Of those, Nerchio won by far the most money and MaNa has the most overall medals, so I put them in as well. Neither Scarlett or Sen has ever won a premier, so they still have some way to go.


Sen's multiple 3rd place finishes (Most notably at NASL's and Blizzcons) and his 1st at ESL this year are more impressive than most of the wins Mana, Nerchio and Idra ever had.

When mana won ESWC, he won against Stephano at the top of his ZvP reign (and he had the most dominating ZvP in the whole of SC2) and forGG in the final. I don't see how Sen's result is better.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
February 15 2014 14:49 GMT
#739
On February 15 2014 23:48 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 23:47 slowbacontron wrote:
On February 15 2014 23:45 Mozdk wrote:
On February 15 2014 23:43 stuchiu wrote:
On February 15 2014 23:41 Mozdk wrote:
Aligulac has polt at 73% to beat Mana in a BO3. Argh!


Polt is weak against Soul Trains and Soul Planes. If Mana realizes this, he could win.


So you wouldn't classify Soul Train as a PvZ build?

A true Soul Train can traverse any terrain.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I have no idea how to alter gifs, but that one with a picture of Parting, a ton of sentries and some immortals on the side would be amazing.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
February 15 2014 14:50 GMT
#740
shame on you polt, look how happy he is!!!
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