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Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
March 03 2014 18:34 GMT
#621
On March 04 2014 02:59 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 02:39 Superiorwolf wrote:
On March 04 2014 00:09 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On March 03 2014 21:18 Greendotz wrote:
Just watched the Vods for Who? Vs MyI. I really think the 2v2 map needs to be changed. The idea behind it is really cool, but when it comes to 2v2 practicality it just doesn’t work. What makes 2v2 so tricky is you can both cheese and take out one guy, essentially making it a 2v1. The allied bases are just too far apart to defend each other. Jakji saw that attack coming for a good 30 seconds, if he and Stardust were sharing a base that would’ve easily been held.

At the very least teams need to realise that you have to be hyper aggressive on that map and keep an eye on the middle.


4 matches is by no means enough to make an assessment, especially since most players had no idea what they were doing.

We won't be changing maps on the basis of such a tiny sample size. Once maps get figured out, if they still end up not playing well, we can change them. Not a single team has used the map as it was intended yet. Only one team came close. Until that happens, no assessment can be made. Jjakji and Stardust did not lose because of the map, they lost because they didn't bother to practice and I have no sympathy for that.

A lot of these teams have clearly not practiced at all, for example Jjakji and stardust who didn't even wall off either the middle or their own bases... I didn't actually get a chance to watch the life hack game but as far as I know they did just get a bit lucky that the other team wasn't checking the rocks. Our practice 2v2s almost every game goes past 15 minutes macro game, so I think it's less a problem with the map (which really becomes more interesting the more we play it) and more so from teams not viewing the 2v2 as importantly as they should.


Yeah. I get that practicing 2v2 is maybe not a good use of peoples time but putting in just a couple of hours on that map will make people far more likely to succeed on it. Axiom actually did practice it and had a strategy, they just got unlucky with their supply depot placement being one square off where it needed to be to scout the lings. That's a bit of a shame since I htink that game would have got really interesting past that point.

Hopefully we can have a good game vs millennium to show off how cool it can be :D hopefully they don't just do some random no practice build and lose too quickly though!
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SlammerIV
Profile Joined December 2013
United States526 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-03 19:21:46
March 03 2014 19:21 GMT
#622
That was an EPIC series!!! so pumped for the next CW. I think we are going see some better and better matches as the players get more used to the maps.
fingers crossed for a great 2v2
Niko_Thien
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany2671 Posts
March 03 2014 19:40 GMT
#623
On March 04 2014 02:32 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Our next event, Mill vs EG, will be cocast by qxc.

Cocast by QXC? That is great! TB+ a strong analyst is always a great pleasure to listen to, looking forward to that series!
@Niko_Thien on twitter!
Xiphias
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway2223 Posts
March 03 2014 19:47 GMT
#624
On March 04 2014 01:38 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 00:48 Xiphias wrote:
No Startale Vs Axiom VOD's up yet? I keep looking for them. Maybe I'm just retarded....


Those vods are broken, we can't recover them intact. Basically for some reason the vods cut off the first couple of minutes of two of the matches. The only way to really repair that would be to recast them but I had a cocaster for that event making that next impossible.


Wanted to see the Starbow game. Oh well...
aka KanBan85. Working on Starbow.
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
March 03 2014 19:50 GMT
#625
On March 04 2014 04:47 Xiphias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 01:38 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On March 04 2014 00:48 Xiphias wrote:
No Startale Vs Axiom VOD's up yet? I keep looking for them. Maybe I'm just retarded....


Those vods are broken, we can't recover them intact. Basically for some reason the vods cut off the first couple of minutes of two of the matches. The only way to really repair that would be to recast them but I had a cocaster for that event making that next impossible.


Wanted to see the Starbow game. Oh well...


Frankly it was a waste of your time. Legend pretty obviously didn't know what he was doing. On the plus side, I have Startale playing Starbow again soon and it looks like this time they know what's going on.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Xiphias
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway2223 Posts
March 03 2014 19:51 GMT
#626
On March 04 2014 04:50 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 04:47 Xiphias wrote:
On March 04 2014 01:38 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On March 04 2014 00:48 Xiphias wrote:
No Startale Vs Axiom VOD's up yet? I keep looking for them. Maybe I'm just retarded....


Those vods are broken, we can't recover them intact. Basically for some reason the vods cut off the first couple of minutes of two of the matches. The only way to really repair that would be to recast them but I had a cocaster for that event making that next impossible.


Wanted to see the Starbow game. Oh well...


Frankly it was a waste of your time. Legend pretty obviously didn't know what he was doing. On the plus side, I have Startale playing Starbow again soon and it looks like this time they know what's going on.


Sweet! It was 2am at night for me for one Starbow game so I chose sleep over game. Might sacrifice sleep next time
aka KanBan85. Working on Starbow.
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
March 03 2014 20:05 GMT
#627
Its weird that adelscott vs JYP is played on a normal sc2 map.
I know adel loves starbow, it could have been good to see him vs some EG guy on it.
RIP MKP
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
March 03 2014 20:23 GMT
#628
On March 04 2014 05:05 shid0x wrote:
Its weird that adelscott vs JYP is played on a normal sc2 map.
I know adel loves starbow, it could have been good to see him vs some EG guy on it.


It's more a case that EG doesn't have a Starbow player yet. It's good to know that Mill does though, I'll try and get them matched up with other teams that do as well.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
March 03 2014 21:18 GMT
#629
On March 04 2014 05:23 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 05:05 shid0x wrote:
Its weird that adelscott vs JYP is played on a normal sc2 map.
I know adel loves starbow, it could have been good to see him vs some EG guy on it.


It's more a case that EG doesn't have a Starbow player yet. It's good to know that Mill does though, I'll try and get them matched up with other teams that do as well.


Oh, i thought at least one EG guy would play it...well you can't have it all^^
RIP MKP
Jawra
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden146 Posts
March 03 2014 22:13 GMT
#630
I've seen HuK play it quite a bit actually. Maybe he wants to play the regular 1v1 though.
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-04 15:39:25
March 04 2014 15:35 GMT
#631
2 new events announced

ROOT vs Complexity - Monday, Mar 17 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
Team Liquid vs MVP - Thursday, Mar 20 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)

IVD vs MyI lineup also announced in the OP
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
March 04 2014 22:48 GMT
#632
On March 05 2014 00:35 TotalBiscuit wrote:
2 new events announced

ROOT vs Complexity - Monday, Mar 17 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
Team Liquid vs MVP - Thursday, Mar 20 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)

IVD vs MyI lineup also announced in the OP


Cool. Stand out for me is Team Liquid versus MVP. Can't wait for that. TaeJa vs DRG would be awesome.
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
Kimb3r
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany744 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-05 02:39:06
March 05 2014 02:22 GMT
#633
I just updated the LU for IvD and myI in Liquipedia. I'm going to add the rest of the games in the page aswell!

How weird that we have on the 6th March two clanwars at nearly the same time, just 30 minutes apart from each other!!
Maru | Dark | Zest | Reynor | Scarlett
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
March 05 2014 02:59 GMT
#634
On March 05 2014 11:22 Kimb3r wrote:
I just updated the LU for IvD and myI in Liquipedia. I'm going to add the rest of the games in the page aswell!

How weird that we have on the 6th March two clanwars at nearly the same time, just 30 minutes apart from each other!!


That was a mistake, apologies, updated with the right date.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Kimb3r
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany744 Posts
March 05 2014 03:10 GMT
#635
You have to check the sides of the names of the teams and the Lineup below aswell.. sometimes the players and their teams names are not on the same side..

I updated the Liquipedia-page, added all the new matches, the VoDs for the already played matches and an overview of "Participating Teams". I hope that soon someone will approve my changes so that you can see those.

To be honest.. it makes hell of a fun I will add something like a table or atleast something like statistics tomorrow!
Maru | Dark | Zest | Reynor | Scarlett
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5490 Posts
March 05 2014 17:44 GMT
#636
Am I allowed to ask how the Clan wars have been doing commercially.
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
March 05 2014 17:53 GMT
#637
On March 06 2014 02:44 thezanursic wrote:
Am I allowed to ask how the Clan wars have been doing commercially.


My impression so far is that MLG is in the black on them and is very pleased. It does vary from war to war though depending on how many viewers we get, in what regions and how many ads can be served.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Energycore
Profile Joined May 2013
Mexico56 Posts
March 05 2014 20:54 GMT
#638
do you have permission to release viewership statistics for clan wars?
Victory is ours! Let's go home.
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
March 06 2014 01:40 GMT
#639
Love it!
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
March 06 2014 17:54 GMT
#640
4 hours until a great Clan War between Millenium and EG cast by myself and qXC.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
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