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looken
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On February 01 2014 03:17 MasterOfPuppets wrote: I know how good SEA is, I follow results more than 99% of people in this community, but still he owned them nerds pretty hard for a long time and only recently did they manage to beat him more consistently. If anything, that plus his games against NesTea mean he's just not that good anymore. ;p It's ok, he can always fall back on his cooking career. | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On February 01 2014 03:17 NovaMB wrote: Someone edited that into the OP while I wasnt looking, no need to search the post Oh yeah i saw. Nice  On February 01 2014 03:17 Heartland wrote: He's played a few hundred games so it's not too rare that they come up on that stream, no. So not right now  Lost all my BW VODS when my last computer died. Need to redl them  @Zheryn. God multitwitch ! it's awesome. Didn't know about that. Can you share your URL ? | ||
Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On February 01 2014 03:16 MasterOfPuppets wrote: Then tell Rain, Bomber, Dear and Soulkey to play in more tournaments. Better yet, go sponsor tournaments for the Korean scene. The only way to combat inflation is by having more games be played. ... I realize that the aligulac system has inflation based on the fact that some of these players (eg Stardust) play in a lot of foreign tournaments which increases their rating based on the number of matches. My point is that aligulac's rating system is flawed (not much you can do about it and I think aligulac is great) in that the rating system will then project a "farmed" player such as Stardust to beat a player that plays only in Korean tournaments that is better than him. So I'm just saying take aligulac ratings with a grain of salt when making your projections. Your insistence that I go support the Korean scene to make some good players have better aligulac ratings is strange. | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On February 01 2014 03:19 Darkhoarse wrote: ... I realize that the aligulac system has inflation based on the fact that some of these players (eg Stardust) play in a lot of foreign tournaments which increases their rating based on the number of matches. My point is that aligulac's rating system is flawed (not much you can do about it and I think aligulac is great) in that the rating system will then project a "farmed" player such as Stardust to beat a player that plays only in Korean tournaments that is better than him. So I'm just saying take aligulac ratings with a grain of salt when making your projections. Your insistence that I go support the Korean scene to make some good players have better aligulac ratings is strange. Both Apocalypse and elfi play in the foreign scene and both compete online as well as far as I know, so I don't see how this affects it in any way. Inflation only applies when comparing people from different regions. And elfi's a good couple hundred points ahead, not like a minor difference. | ||
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On February 01 2014 03:20 MasterOfPuppets wrote: Both Apocalypse and elfi play in the foreign scene and both compete online as well as far as I know, so I don't see how this affects it in any way. Inflation only applies when comparing people from different regions. And elfi's a good couple hundred points ahead, not like a minor difference. Well elfi has ~1550 games recorded on aligulac to Apocalypse's ~600 so elfi certainly has had more tournaments and matches. However like I said I agree with you in the case of elfi and Apoc. However, your earlier assertion that welmu is better than Paralyze/other protosses Life has beaten in Korea was based on aligulac as well. | ||
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AlternativeEgo
Sweden17309 Posts
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On February 01 2014 03:25 AlternativeEgo wrote: Aligulac is best we have got. Better to promote playing and winning a lot of games than watching Moonglade and Demuslim climb up to the top-2 TLPD by not competing at all for like six months. And doesn't the Koreans get a starting point bonus? I think I've read that once. Yeah they get a starting bonus of like 1200 compared to foreigners 1000 or something in rating. And yeah aligulac is an excellent rating system. | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On February 01 2014 03:26 Darkhoarse wrote: Yeah they get a starting bonus of like 1200 compared to foreigners 1000 or something in rating. And yeah aligulac is an excellent rating system. That is correct. It was one of the measures put in place to combat inflation and it has turned out well so far. | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24603 Posts
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On February 01 2014 03:25 AlternativeEgo wrote: Aligulac is best we have got. Better to promote playing and winning a lot of games than watching Moonglade and Demuslim climb up to the top-2 TLPD by not competing at all for like six months. And doesn't the Koreans get a starting point bonus? I think I've read that once. Koreans get a bonus because they in general have smaller sample sizes due to less small tournaments which may inflate stats On February 01 2014 03:28 Heartland wrote: All statistics hide as much as it shows. You have to be aware of it's limitations and how it's skewed to be able to fully understand statistics. I prefer to be completely sweeping about statistics. | ||
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
All hail Polt! | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24603 Posts
On February 01 2014 03:28 Fusilero wrote: Koreans get a bonus because they in general have smaller sample sizes due to less small tournaments which may inflate stats I prefer to be completely sweeping about statistics. 95% of all people do. | ||
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aZealot
New Zealand5447 Posts
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On February 01 2014 03:30 MasterOfPuppets wrote: Since we're on this topic, I'd like to point out that TaeJa's results vs Serral and SortOf lead to him dropping by 132 points, making him now #4 worldwide. All hail Polt! Polt for America! Polt for Freedom! Polt for Democracy! | ||
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NovaMB
Germany9534 Posts
On February 01 2014 03:30 aZealot wrote: Do the QFs start soon? If I am reading the groups right, Taeja vs JD is one of the matchups, right? The ro16 hasnt even started yet | ||
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aZealot
New Zealand5447 Posts
On February 01 2014 03:28 Fusilero wrote: Koreans get a bonus because they in general have smaller sample sizes due to less small tournaments which may inflate stats I prefer to be completely sweeping about statistics. You want to be a show-er not a grower when it comes to statistics. | ||
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aZealot
New Zealand5447 Posts
Lol, sorry, I meant the RO 16. | ||
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