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On February 01 2014 03:11 FFW_Rude wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2014 03:11 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On February 01 2014 03:09 FFW_Rude wrote:
Hey. anyone know when JD is playing ? Do i have time to go ladder ? I dont think so Damnit. Play or Watch JD...
Play.
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On February 01 2014 03:13 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2014 03:11 FFW_Rude wrote:On February 01 2014 03:11 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On February 01 2014 03:09 FFW_Rude wrote:
Hey. anyone know when JD is playing ? Do i have time to go ladder ? I dont think so Damnit. Play or Watch JD... Play.
go away chobo
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On February 01 2014 03:11 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2014 03:09 ZAiNs wrote:On February 01 2014 03:06 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On February 01 2014 03:04 Destructicon wrote:
Damn, didn't expect Apocalypse to beat Elfi. But I'm glad I did, the Elfi hype train was getting on my nerves. Don't get me wrong, I love Elfi but his hype train was fucking obnoxious as shit, I hope it crashes and burns. So you think a good player should lose to an inferior player just because he's overhyped? Wouldn't you rather he get floored by someone better than him to end the hype? :/ Don't know how you can objectively say Apocalypse is an inferior player to Elfi. Elfi had a 76% chance to win the matchup according to Aligulac, so there's that. ;p
Aligulac predicted a 75% chance for KingKong against Nestea too. So there's that.
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On February 01 2014 03:11 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2014 03:09 ZAiNs wrote:On February 01 2014 03:06 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On February 01 2014 03:04 Destructicon wrote:
Damn, didn't expect Apocalypse to beat Elfi. But I'm glad I did, the Elfi hype train was getting on my nerves. Don't get me wrong, I love Elfi but his hype train was fucking obnoxious as shit, I hope it crashes and burns. So you think a good player should lose to an inferior player just because he's overhyped? Wouldn't you rather he get floored by someone better than him to end the hype? :/ Don't know how you can objectively say Apocalypse is an inferior player to Elfi. Elfi had a 76% chance to win the matchup according to Aligulac, so there's that. ;p
I agree with you here, but you put a lot of stock in what Aligulac says. It's a useful tool, but the rating sytem doesn't necessarily capture how skilled the player is. I mean, Stardust has a better aligulac rating than Rain, Bomber, Dear, and Soulkey.
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On February 01 2014 03:11 FFW_Rude wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2014 03:11 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On February 01 2014 03:09 FFW_Rude wrote:
Hey. anyone know when JD is playing ? Do i have time to go ladder ? I dont think so Damnit. Play or Watch JD...
twitch.tv/mori09tv says JD game starts at 19:30
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Is it just me that finds the Poseidon/Maximus commercials arousing? I mean look at that hardware... oh...
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On February 01 2014 03:13 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2014 03:11 FFW_Rude wrote:On February 01 2014 03:11 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On February 01 2014 03:09 FFW_Rude wrote:
Hey. anyone know when JD is playing ? Do i have time to go ladder ? I dont think so Damnit. Play or Watch JD... Play.
Damn... i want to make into gold tonight. I'm 17-0 right now in silver ... But if i don't watch the dong... i might get cursed
On February 01 2014 03:14 Zheryn wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2014 03:11 FFW_Rude wrote:On February 01 2014 03:11 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On February 01 2014 03:09 FFW_Rude wrote:
Hey. anyone know when JD is playing ? Do i have time to go ladder ? I dont think so Damnit. Play or Watch JD... twitch.tv/mori09tv says JD game starts at 19:30
Mori is german stream right ? I need to find KR or english stream. Gonna get on R1ch's post
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On February 01 2014 03:13 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2014 03:13 Heartland wrote:On February 01 2014 03:11 FFW_Rude wrote:On February 01 2014 03:11 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On February 01 2014 03:09 FFW_Rude wrote:
Hey. anyone know when JD is playing ? Do i have time to go ladder ? I dont think so Damnit. Play or Watch JD... Play. go away chobo
He could click the restream of the BW Vods stream too.
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On February 01 2014 03:13 Darkhoarse wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2014 03:11 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On February 01 2014 03:09 ZAiNs wrote:On February 01 2014 03:06 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On February 01 2014 03:04 Destructicon wrote:
Damn, didn't expect Apocalypse to beat Elfi. But I'm glad I did, the Elfi hype train was getting on my nerves. Don't get me wrong, I love Elfi but his hype train was fucking obnoxious as shit, I hope it crashes and burns. So you think a good player should lose to an inferior player just because he's overhyped? Wouldn't you rather he get floored by someone better than him to end the hype? :/ Don't know how you can objectively say Apocalypse is an inferior player to Elfi. Elfi had a 76% chance to win the matchup according to Aligulac, so there's that. ;p I agree with you here, but you put a lot of stock in what Aligulac says. It's a useful tool, but the rating sytem doesn't necessarily capture how skilled the player is. I mean, Stardust has a better aligulac rating than Rain, Bomber, Dear, and Soulkey.
Even as a NaNi fan I don't think he's the second best vT player in the world, so the system can be flawed I definately agree!
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On February 01 2014 03:13 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2014 03:11 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On February 01 2014 03:09 ZAiNs wrote:On February 01 2014 03:06 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On February 01 2014 03:04 Destructicon wrote:
Damn, didn't expect Apocalypse to beat Elfi. But I'm glad I did, the Elfi hype train was getting on my nerves. Don't get me wrong, I love Elfi but his hype train was fucking obnoxious as shit, I hope it crashes and burns. So you think a good player should lose to an inferior player just because he's overhyped? Wouldn't you rather he get floored by someone better than him to end the hype? :/ Don't know how you can objectively say Apocalypse is an inferior player to Elfi. Elfi had a 76% chance to win the matchup according to Aligulac, so there's that. ;p Aligulac predicted a 75% chance for KingKong against Nestea too. So there's that.
KingKong farmed the SEA scene for a long time, of course there's gonna be inflation when one guy owns foreigners all day every day and NesTea makes an appearance once in a blue moon.
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On February 01 2014 03:13 Darkhoarse wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2014 03:11 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On February 01 2014 03:09 ZAiNs wrote:On February 01 2014 03:06 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On February 01 2014 03:04 Destructicon wrote:
Damn, didn't expect Apocalypse to beat Elfi. But I'm glad I did, the Elfi hype train was getting on my nerves. Don't get me wrong, I love Elfi but his hype train was fucking obnoxious as shit, I hope it crashes and burns. So you think a good player should lose to an inferior player just because he's overhyped? Wouldn't you rather he get floored by someone better than him to end the hype? :/ Don't know how you can objectively say Apocalypse is an inferior player to Elfi. Elfi had a 76% chance to win the matchup according to Aligulac, so there's that. ;p I agree with you here, but you put a lot of stock in what Aligulac says. It's a useful tool, but the rating sytem doesn't necessarily capture how skilled the player is. I mean, Stardust has a better aligulac rating than Rain, Bomber, Dear, and Soulkey.
Then tell Rain, Bomber, Dear and Soulkey to play in more tournaments.
Better yet, go sponsor tournaments for the Korean scene.
The only way to combat inflation is by having more games be played.
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On February 01 2014 03:14 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2014 03:13 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On February 01 2014 03:13 Heartland wrote:On February 01 2014 03:11 FFW_Rude wrote:On February 01 2014 03:11 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On February 01 2014 03:09 FFW_Rude wrote:
Hey. anyone know when JD is playing ? Do i have time to go ladder ? I dont think so Damnit. Play or Watch JD... Play. go away chobo He could click the restream of the BW Vods stream too.
Wait... Are you telling me there's a stream of BW's Jaedong game ?
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On February 01 2014 03:15 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2014 03:13 stuchiu wrote:On February 01 2014 03:11 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On February 01 2014 03:09 ZAiNs wrote:On February 01 2014 03:06 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On February 01 2014 03:04 Destructicon wrote:
Damn, didn't expect Apocalypse to beat Elfi. But I'm glad I did, the Elfi hype train was getting on my nerves. Don't get me wrong, I love Elfi but his hype train was fucking obnoxious as shit, I hope it crashes and burns. So you think a good player should lose to an inferior player just because he's overhyped? Wouldn't you rather he get floored by someone better than him to end the hype? :/ Don't know how you can objectively say Apocalypse is an inferior player to Elfi. Elfi had a 76% chance to win the matchup according to Aligulac, so there's that. ;p Aligulac predicted a 75% chance for KingKong against Nestea too. So there's that. KingKong farmed the SEA scene for a long time, of course there's gonna be inflation when one guy owns foreigners all day every day and NesTea makes an appearance once in a blue moon.
SEA is better than you'd think. Especially in ZvZ.
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On February 01 2014 03:16 FFW_Rude wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2014 03:14 Heartland wrote:On February 01 2014 03:13 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On February 01 2014 03:13 Heartland wrote:On February 01 2014 03:11 FFW_Rude wrote:On February 01 2014 03:11 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On February 01 2014 03:09 FFW_Rude wrote:
Hey. anyone know when JD is playing ? Do i have time to go ladder ? I dont think so Damnit. Play or Watch JD... Play. go away chobo He could click the restream of the BW Vods stream too. Wait... Are you telling me there's a stream of BW's Jaedong game ?
He's played a few hundred games so it's not too rare that they come up on that stream, no.
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On February 01 2014 03:14 FFW_Rude wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2014 03:13 Heartland wrote:On February 01 2014 03:11 FFW_Rude wrote:On February 01 2014 03:11 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On February 01 2014 03:09 FFW_Rude wrote:
Hey. anyone know when JD is playing ? Do i have time to go ladder ? I dont think so Damnit. Play or Watch JD... Play. Damn... i want to make into gold tonight. I'm 17-0 right now in silver ... But if i don't watch the dong... i might get cursed Show nested quote +On February 01 2014 03:14 Zheryn wrote:On February 01 2014 03:11 FFW_Rude wrote:On February 01 2014 03:11 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On February 01 2014 03:09 FFW_Rude wrote:
Hey. anyone know when JD is playing ? Do i have time to go ladder ? I dont think so Damnit. Play or Watch JD... twitch.tv/mori09tv says JD game starts at 19:30 Mori is german stream right ? I need to find KR or english stream. Gonna get on R1ch's post
Someone edited that into the OP while I wasnt looking, no need to search the post
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On February 01 2014 03:16 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2014 03:15 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On February 01 2014 03:13 stuchiu wrote:On February 01 2014 03:11 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On February 01 2014 03:09 ZAiNs wrote:On February 01 2014 03:06 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On February 01 2014 03:04 Destructicon wrote:
Damn, didn't expect Apocalypse to beat Elfi. But I'm glad I did, the Elfi hype train was getting on my nerves. Don't get me wrong, I love Elfi but his hype train was fucking obnoxious as shit, I hope it crashes and burns. So you think a good player should lose to an inferior player just because he's overhyped? Wouldn't you rather he get floored by someone better than him to end the hype? :/ Don't know how you can objectively say Apocalypse is an inferior player to Elfi. Elfi had a 76% chance to win the matchup according to Aligulac, so there's that. ;p Aligulac predicted a 75% chance for KingKong against Nestea too. So there's that. KingKong farmed the SEA scene for a long time, of course there's gonna be inflation when one guy owns foreigners all day every day and NesTea makes an appearance once in a blue moon. SEA is better than you'd think. Especially in ZvZ.
#freemoonglade
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On February 01 2014 03:16 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2014 03:13 Darkhoarse wrote:On February 01 2014 03:11 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On February 01 2014 03:09 ZAiNs wrote:On February 01 2014 03:06 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On February 01 2014 03:04 Destructicon wrote:
Damn, didn't expect Apocalypse to beat Elfi. But I'm glad I did, the Elfi hype train was getting on my nerves. Don't get me wrong, I love Elfi but his hype train was fucking obnoxious as shit, I hope it crashes and burns. So you think a good player should lose to an inferior player just because he's overhyped? Wouldn't you rather he get floored by someone better than him to end the hype? :/ Don't know how you can objectively say Apocalypse is an inferior player to Elfi. Elfi had a 76% chance to win the matchup according to Aligulac, so there's that. ;p I agree with you here, but you put a lot of stock in what Aligulac says. It's a useful tool, but the rating sytem doesn't necessarily capture how skilled the player is. I mean, Stardust has a better aligulac rating than Rain, Bomber, Dear, and Soulkey. Then tell Rain, Bomber, Dear and Soulkey to play in more tournaments. Better yet, go sponsor tournaments for the Korean scene. The only way to combat inflation is by having more games be played.
Nah, I like the inflation cause it makes casters say funny things like, "ForGG is a favorite here against Mvp cause he has a 94% winrate in TvT."
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On February 01 2014 03:09 ZAiNs wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2014 03:06 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On February 01 2014 03:04 Destructicon wrote:
Damn, didn't expect Apocalypse to beat Elfi. But I'm glad I did, the Elfi hype train was getting on my nerves. Don't get me wrong, I love Elfi but his hype train was fucking obnoxious as shit, I hope it crashes and burns. So you think a good player should lose to an inferior player just because he's overhyped? Wouldn't you rather he get floored by someone better than him to end the hype? :/ Don't know how you can objectively say Apocalypse is an inferior player to Elfi.
I thnik that is pretty easy, if you look at the results of both of them. I don´t think Apoc has ever had a run like elfi had for example at Bucharest, where he defeated Stardust, ForGG, Oz and more. Elfi had 3 premier ro8 in last year, Apoc has´nt made a premier ro8 in his career yet. I´m probably overestimating Elfi in many situations, but in this case I´m pretty sure, the facts would support the opinion of him being the objectively better player.
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On February 01 2014 03:14 FFW_Rude wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2014 03:13 Heartland wrote:On February 01 2014 03:11 FFW_Rude wrote:On February 01 2014 03:11 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On February 01 2014 03:09 FFW_Rude wrote:
Hey. anyone know when JD is playing ? Do i have time to go ladder ? I dont think so Damnit. Play or Watch JD... Play. Damn... i want to make into gold tonight. I'm 17-0 right now in silver ... But if i don't watch the dong... i might get cursed Show nested quote +On February 01 2014 03:14 Zheryn wrote:On February 01 2014 03:11 FFW_Rude wrote:On February 01 2014 03:11 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On February 01 2014 03:09 FFW_Rude wrote:
Hey. anyone know when JD is playing ? Do i have time to go ladder ? I dont think so Damnit. Play or Watch JD... twitch.tv/mori09tv says JD game starts at 19:30 Mori is german stream right ? I need to find KR or english stream. Gonna get on R1ch's post
No idea, I have 8 streams up on multitwitch and have been watching muted streams for the most part. There are a lot of community casters I don't really enjoy listening to.
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On February 01 2014 03:16 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2014 03:15 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On February 01 2014 03:13 stuchiu wrote:On February 01 2014 03:11 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On February 01 2014 03:09 ZAiNs wrote:On February 01 2014 03:06 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On February 01 2014 03:04 Destructicon wrote:
Damn, didn't expect Apocalypse to beat Elfi. But I'm glad I did, the Elfi hype train was getting on my nerves. Don't get me wrong, I love Elfi but his hype train was fucking obnoxious as shit, I hope it crashes and burns. So you think a good player should lose to an inferior player just because he's overhyped? Wouldn't you rather he get floored by someone better than him to end the hype? :/ Don't know how you can objectively say Apocalypse is an inferior player to Elfi. Elfi had a 76% chance to win the matchup according to Aligulac, so there's that. ;p Aligulac predicted a 75% chance for KingKong against Nestea too. So there's that. KingKong farmed the SEA scene for a long time, of course there's gonna be inflation when one guy owns foreigners all day every day and NesTea makes an appearance once in a blue moon. SEA is better than you'd think. Especially in ZvZ.
I know how good SEA is, I follow results more than 99% of people in this community, but still he owned them nerds pretty hard for a long time and only recently did they manage to beat him more consistently. If anything, that plus his games against NesTea mean he's just not that good anymore. ;p
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