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On January 22 2014 21:04 SlixSC wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 21:02 bo1b wrote:On January 22 2014 20:57 SlixSC wrote:On January 22 2014 20:53 bo1b wrote:
I'm about 90% certain I remember some of the people who are bringing up statistics waving away some of the old tvz stats from the last few seasons lol.
What hypocrites. Could you link us to a Code S season where only 2 zergs or let's be generous and say less than 6 zergs qualified for Code S (in HotS)? Pretty sure that was never the case. I don't really follow Sc2 anymore personally, only occasionally watch Proleague or Code S, so I have no vested interest in balance, but even I can see that the way it is right now isn't right. What hurts the game alot more than balance whine, is people being blind to even the most obvious imbalances. It ruins the fun for everybody, the viewers, the players.... why defend that status quo? I'm not defending it, I think the games current "meta" is a fucking joke. In any event we had several seasons in wcs premier of having just jaedong or and soulkey or scarlett being the only zergs in the finals. I still think despite all of this taeja is going to win. But you are shifting the goalposts here and it's obvious. "In the finals" is veeeeeery different from the Ro32. And one player potentially (just potentially) doing well does not justify the rest of the playerbase being unable to even qualify for the tournament.
The gsl/osl wcs eu and am were qualifying events for the wcs finals after each season, and the points accrued were the qualification for the grand finals. 2 zergs were in the ro16 in the grandfinals. In any event check out the wcs season 2 osl, where there were 14 zergs in the tournament, 0 of which made it past the ro8.
And I've been banned enough times ragging on protoss that I just don't say what I really want to anymore.
edit: This is ridiculously off topic so I'm not going to keep going with this.
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Once again I advice you all to check IEM qualifier games, a really good series going on.
+ Show Spoiler +Soulkey vs Cure, currently 1-1 after Cure going mech both games. + Show Spoiler +also no protoss etc etc trololol
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On January 22 2014 21:10 DJHelium wrote:Once again I advice you all to check IEM qualifier games, a really good series going on. + Show Spoiler +Soulkey vs Cure, currently 1-1 after Cure going mech both games.
+ awesome play by both player, 0 turtling involved atm
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On January 22 2014 21:04 Bagi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 21:01 samurai80 wrote:On January 22 2014 20:58 DJHelium wrote:On January 22 2014 20:56 Bagi wrote:On January 22 2014 20:45 samurai80 wrote:
A bunch of P win in GSL: twitch mode activated. We had multiple times the same "imbalance" in GSL results in previous seasons, often in favor of terrans, but interestingly enough the whine wasn't that hard. Nerf T whine pls ! That was 2011, people were only starting to play on bigger maps and the game as a whole wasn't figured out in the least. People expect better balance in the games 4th year. Also having a race imbalanced just because another race was imbalanced before isn't a great way to reason. I think most viewers and players rather have a balanced and fun game to watch, instead of "fairness". There are some balance variations along a short period of time that are naturally going to happen. The shorter the period the more likely it is to have imblance. P endured imbalance for so much more time than this and didn't even whine that much. So I say at the very least wait for over a season (as there are still 6 T remaining this seaon) before whining. Seriously if the crux of your argument is going to be "protoss deserves to be OP" maybe you should just go sit in the corner and really think it over.
My point is that some imbalance on a short period of time (half a season of GSL code A) is naturally going to happen, no need to get that mad about it.
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On January 22 2014 21:11 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 21:10 DJHelium wrote:Once again I advice you all to check IEM qualifier games, a really good series going on. + Show Spoiler +Soulkey vs Cure, currently 1-1 after Cure going mech both games. + awesome play by both player, 0 turtling involved atm
Intriguing how rapidly mech vZ has seemingly come out of nowhere to become an incredibly important strat
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On January 22 2014 21:11 samurai80 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 21:04 Bagi wrote:On January 22 2014 21:01 samurai80 wrote:On January 22 2014 20:58 DJHelium wrote:On January 22 2014 20:56 Bagi wrote:On January 22 2014 20:45 samurai80 wrote:
A bunch of P win in GSL: twitch mode activated. We had multiple times the same "imbalance" in GSL results in previous seasons, often in favor of terrans, but interestingly enough the whine wasn't that hard. Nerf T whine pls ! That was 2011, people were only starting to play on bigger maps and the game as a whole wasn't figured out in the least. People expect better balance in the games 4th year. Also having a race imbalanced just because another race was imbalanced before isn't a great way to reason. I think most viewers and players rather have a balanced and fun game to watch, instead of "fairness". There are some balance variations along a short period of time that are naturally going to happen. The shorter the period the more likely it is to have imblance. P endured imbalance for so much more time than this and didn't even whine that much. So I say at the very least wait for over a season (as there are still 6 T remaining this seaon) before whining. Seriously if the crux of your argument is going to be "protoss deserves to be OP" maybe you should just go sit in the corner and really think it over. My point is that some imbalance on a short period of time (half a season of GSL code A) is naturally going to happen, no need to get that mad about it.
And six months from now Time Warp will take more skill to cast? OK.
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On January 22 2014 21:12 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 21:11 sAsImre wrote:On January 22 2014 21:10 DJHelium wrote:Once again I advice you all to check IEM qualifier games, a really good series going on. + Show Spoiler +Soulkey vs Cure, currently 1-1 after Cure going mech both games. + awesome play by both player, 0 turtling involved atm Intriguing how rapidly mech vZ has seemingly come out of nowhere to become an incredibly important strat
Well, tanks did get quite buffed and mines quite nerfed.
edit: also vikings a lot stronger with upgrades.
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I am not watching GSL anymore. SC2 is no longer fun to watch as a spectator.
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On January 22 2014 21:12 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 21:11 sAsImre wrote:On January 22 2014 21:10 DJHelium wrote:Once again I advice you all to check IEM qualifier games, a really good series going on. + Show Spoiler +Soulkey vs Cure, currently 1-1 after Cure going mech both games. + awesome play by both player, 0 turtling involved atm Intriguing how rapidly mech vZ has seemingly come out of nowhere to become an incredibly important strat
It's like when Mvp just blitzkrieged Cologne.
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On January 22 2014 21:13 PesteNoire wrote:
I am not watching GSL anymore. SC2 is no longer fun to watch as a spectator.
Everyone knows the real SC2 tournaments are IEM qualifiers, that's where the action is.
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On January 22 2014 21:12 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 21:11 sAsImre wrote:On January 22 2014 21:10 DJHelium wrote:Once again I advice you all to check IEM qualifier games, a really good series going on. + Show Spoiler +Soulkey vs Cure, currently 1-1 after Cure going mech both games. + awesome play by both player, 0 turtling involved atm Intriguing how rapidly mech vZ has seemingly come out of nowhere to become an incredibly important strat
combined upgrades mean vikings even destroy mutalisk once 2/2 or 3/3
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On January 22 2014 21:13 PesteNoire wrote:
I am not watching GSL anymore. SC2 is no longer fun to watch as a spectator.
Imo we've had some insane games lately! GSL just seems a bit unlucky in getting them, needs more TRUE vs Fantasy or Bomber vs Xenocider.
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On January 22 2014 21:15 DJHelium wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 21:13 PesteNoire wrote:
I am not watching GSL anymore. SC2 is no longer fun to watch as a spectator. Imo we've had some insane games lately! GSL just seems a bit unlucky in getting them, needs more TRUE vs Fantasy or Bomber vs Xenocider.
even most PvP are good :p
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On January 22 2014 21:14 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 21:12 Fusilero wrote:On January 22 2014 21:11 sAsImre wrote:On January 22 2014 21:10 DJHelium wrote:Once again I advice you all to check IEM qualifier games, a really good series going on. + Show Spoiler +Soulkey vs Cure, currently 1-1 after Cure going mech both games. + awesome play by both player, 0 turtling involved atm Intriguing how rapidly mech vZ has seemingly come out of nowhere to become an incredibly important strat combined upgrades mean vikings even destroy mutalisk once 2/2 or 3/3
I forgot how quickly viking vs muta tips towards vikings when upgrades come in. I suppose that would be important.
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On January 22 2014 21:14 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 21:13 PesteNoire wrote:
I am not watching GSL anymore. SC2 is no longer fun to watch as a spectator. Everyone knows the real SC2 tournaments are IEM qualifiers, that's where the action is.
Also the most bizzare results happen in those tournaments.
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On January 22 2014 21:11 samurai80 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 21:04 Bagi wrote:On January 22 2014 21:01 samurai80 wrote:On January 22 2014 20:58 DJHelium wrote:On January 22 2014 20:56 Bagi wrote:On January 22 2014 20:45 samurai80 wrote:
A bunch of P win in GSL: twitch mode activated. We had multiple times the same "imbalance" in GSL results in previous seasons, often in favor of terrans, but interestingly enough the whine wasn't that hard. Nerf T whine pls ! That was 2011, people were only starting to play on bigger maps and the game as a whole wasn't figured out in the least. People expect better balance in the games 4th year. Also having a race imbalanced just because another race was imbalanced before isn't a great way to reason. I think most viewers and players rather have a balanced and fun game to watch, instead of "fairness". There are some balance variations along a short period of time that are naturally going to happen. The shorter the period the more likely it is to have imblance. P endured imbalance for so much more time than this and didn't even whine that much. So I say at the very least wait for over a season (as there are still 6 T remaining this seaon) before whining. Seriously if the crux of your argument is going to be "protoss deserves to be OP" maybe you should just go sit in the corner and really think it over. My point is that some imbalance on a short period of time (half a season of GSL code A) is naturally going to happen, no need to get that mad about it.
Yet you get mad when protoss loses some games in pro league, or when terran attempts one SCV Pull.
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On January 22 2014 21:16 AxionSteel wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 21:11 samurai80 wrote:On January 22 2014 21:04 Bagi wrote:On January 22 2014 21:01 samurai80 wrote:On January 22 2014 20:58 DJHelium wrote:On January 22 2014 20:56 Bagi wrote:On January 22 2014 20:45 samurai80 wrote:
A bunch of P win in GSL: twitch mode activated. We had multiple times the same "imbalance" in GSL results in previous seasons, often in favor of terrans, but interestingly enough the whine wasn't that hard. Nerf T whine pls ! That was 2011, people were only starting to play on bigger maps and the game as a whole wasn't figured out in the least. People expect better balance in the games 4th year. Also having a race imbalanced just because another race was imbalanced before isn't a great way to reason. I think most viewers and players rather have a balanced and fun game to watch, instead of "fairness". There are some balance variations along a short period of time that are naturally going to happen. The shorter the period the more likely it is to have imblance. P endured imbalance for so much more time than this and didn't even whine that much. So I say at the very least wait for over a season (as there are still 6 T remaining this seaon) before whining. Seriously if the crux of your argument is going to be "protoss deserves to be OP" maybe you should just go sit in the corner and really think it over. My point is that some imbalance on a short period of time (half a season of GSL code A) is naturally going to happen, no need to get that mad about it. Yet you get mad when protoss loses some games in pro league, or when terran attempts one SCV Pull.
Or toss can't wall on daedalous lol.
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On January 22 2014 21:15 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 21:14 sAsImre wrote:On January 22 2014 21:12 Fusilero wrote:On January 22 2014 21:11 sAsImre wrote:On January 22 2014 21:10 DJHelium wrote:Once again I advice you all to check IEM qualifier games, a really good series going on. + Show Spoiler +Soulkey vs Cure, currently 1-1 after Cure going mech both games. + awesome play by both player, 0 turtling involved atm Intriguing how rapidly mech vZ has seemingly come out of nowhere to become an incredibly important strat combined upgrades mean vikings even destroy mutalisk once 2/2 or 3/3 I forgot how quickly viking vs muta tips towards vikings when upgrades come in. I suppose that would be important.
the style flash uses has like 10+ vikings before 15Min, which both means mutas sucks and blord transition is just bad. + wm nerf makes it useless before you can mass them and nobody's playing 4M anymore in korea atm.
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Another stork derp incoming
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