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Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
December 07 2013 12:02 GMT
#181
Ok, warm up is over and it's time for the co-main event, I for one am indescribably excited to see a cavalcade of highly inventive all-ins that work even when scouted 5 minutes in advance, mixed in with huge balls of void rays mowing down everything in sight.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
December 07 2013 12:03 GMT
#182
On December 07 2013 21:02 Squat wrote:
Ok, warm up is over and it's time for the co-main event, I for one am indescribably excited to see a cavalcade of highly inventive all-ins that work even when scouted 5 minutes in advance, mixed in with huge balls of void rays mowing down everything in sight.


Scarlett, you're not allowed multiple users on TL
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
December 07 2013 12:03 GMT
#183
On December 07 2013 21:01 Heartland wrote:
We have to stop this rampant racism vs Protoss.


Frakking toasters
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
December 07 2013 12:04 GMT
#184
On December 07 2013 21:01 Heartland wrote:
We have to stop this rampant racism vs Protoss.

Reducing their number of effective all-ins might do that
Neosteel Enthusiast
Walitgon
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia550 Posts
December 07 2013 12:04 GMT
#185
On December 07 2013 21:02 Squat wrote:
Ok, warm up is over and it's time for the co-main event, I for one am indescribably excited to see a cavalcade of highly inventive all-ins that work even when scouted 5 minutes in advance, mixed in with huge balls of void rays mowing down everything in sight.


Uncanny accuracy in prediction skillz
BRB laddering ^_^ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
December 07 2013 12:04 GMT
#186
On December 07 2013 20:56 Dingodile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 20:53 Zealously wrote:
On December 07 2013 20:49 m0ck wrote:
Those build order wins


If being intelligent is a build order win then yes, he won this series with build orders alone

build order wins are so retarted, I still cant believe that this is a part of esports rts game. It ruins almost everything and entertaining and this happened before you scout the build of your opponent. This is just luck.

I guess it's easier for some people to simplify things then actually understand what's happening.
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
December 07 2013 12:04 GMT
#187
On December 07 2013 20:58 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 20:57 m0ck wrote:
On December 07 2013 20:55 Zealously wrote:
On December 07 2013 20:54 m0ck wrote:
On December 07 2013 20:53 Zealously wrote:
On December 07 2013 20:49 m0ck wrote:
Those build order wins


If being intelligent is a build order win then yes, he won this series with build orders alone

It looks that way when it works


Does it strike you as strange that he makes it work so frequently?

Life looses plenty of ZvZs due to his risky/all in'ish style


And is currently on a 7-match win streak. I would love to be that lucky.

And before that lost 4 out of 5..

In fact, going by Aligulacs rating, ZvZ is by far his weakest match-up.

Intelligent or not, an all-in on top of a feint is still an all-in. And all-ins are all about taking a big risk for an effortless victory. Not that there is anything wrong with that.
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
December 07 2013 12:04 GMT
#188
On December 07 2013 20:55 ApolloSC2 wrote:
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On December 07 2013 20:54 TheFlexN wrote:
Question to Apollo: Scarlett or the Dong, if thats the finals, who would you like to win?

Scarlett, this tournament isn't big enough for Jaedong to claim his first win, it wouldn't feel right


The dong winning Blizzcon would have probably been the best story out of the top 16
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12888 Posts
December 07 2013 12:05 GMT
#189
also big thanks to taketv <3
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
December 07 2013 12:05 GMT
#190
On December 07 2013 21:04 m0ck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 20:58 Zealously wrote:
On December 07 2013 20:57 m0ck wrote:
On December 07 2013 20:55 Zealously wrote:
On December 07 2013 20:54 m0ck wrote:
On December 07 2013 20:53 Zealously wrote:
On December 07 2013 20:49 m0ck wrote:
Those build order wins


If being intelligent is a build order win then yes, he won this series with build orders alone

It looks that way when it works


Does it strike you as strange that he makes it work so frequently?

Life looses plenty of ZvZs due to his risky/all in'ish style


And is currently on a 7-match win streak. I would love to be that lucky.

And before that lost 4 out of 5..

In fact, going by Aligulacs rating, ZvZ is by far his weakest match-up.

Intelligent or not, an all-in on top of a feint is still an all-in. And all-ins are all about taking a big risk for an effortless victory. Not that there is anything wrong with that.


All-ins aren't effortless.
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
December 07 2013 12:06 GMT
#191
On December 07 2013 21:05 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 21:04 m0ck wrote:
On December 07 2013 20:58 Zealously wrote:
On December 07 2013 20:57 m0ck wrote:
On December 07 2013 20:55 Zealously wrote:
On December 07 2013 20:54 m0ck wrote:
On December 07 2013 20:53 Zealously wrote:
On December 07 2013 20:49 m0ck wrote:
Those build order wins


If being intelligent is a build order win then yes, he won this series with build orders alone

It looks that way when it works


Does it strike you as strange that he makes it work so frequently?

Life looses plenty of ZvZs due to his risky/all in'ish style


And is currently on a 7-match win streak. I would love to be that lucky.

And before that lost 4 out of 5..

In fact, going by Aligulacs rating, ZvZ is by far his weakest match-up.

Intelligent or not, an all-in on top of a feint is still an all-in. And all-ins are all about taking a big risk for an effortless victory. Not that there is anything wrong with that.


All-ins aren't effortless.

Good, important point that really cuts to the heart of the issue
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
December 07 2013 12:06 GMT
#192
On December 07 2013 21:03 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 21:02 Squat wrote:
Ok, warm up is over and it's time for the co-main event, I for one am indescribably excited to see a cavalcade of highly inventive all-ins that work even when scouted 5 minutes in advance, mixed in with huge balls of void rays mowing down everything in sight.


Scarlett, you're not allowed multiple users on TL

I'm afraid my hair is nowhere near as luxurious and vibrant as her's.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
December 07 2013 12:06 GMT
#193
Is take the second coming of jesus ?
RIP MKP
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-07 12:07:55
December 07 2013 12:07 GMT
#194
On December 07 2013 20:56 Dingodile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 20:53 Zealously wrote:
On December 07 2013 20:49 m0ck wrote:
Those build order wins


If being intelligent is a build order win then yes, he won this series with build orders alone

build order wins are so retarted, I still cant believe that this is a part of esports rts game. It ruins almost everything and entertaining and this happened before you scout the build of your opponent. This is just luck.

That was´nt a build order win, though. 2 Rax vs triplle hatch is a build order win. That was just Life playing smart, denying any form of scouting, lure Vortix into being greedy (0 Spines, a lot more drones) and then securing the victory. And I am saying this as a supporter of Vortix.
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
December 07 2013 12:07 GMT
#195
On December 07 2013 21:04 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 21:01 Heartland wrote:
We have to stop this rampant racism vs Protoss.

Reducing their number of effective all-ins might do that

I thought we hated Protoss end game?
Flash | Mvp
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
December 07 2013 12:07 GMT
#196
On December 07 2013 21:06 m0ck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 21:05 Heartland wrote:
On December 07 2013 21:04 m0ck wrote:
On December 07 2013 20:58 Zealously wrote:
On December 07 2013 20:57 m0ck wrote:
On December 07 2013 20:55 Zealously wrote:
On December 07 2013 20:54 m0ck wrote:
On December 07 2013 20:53 Zealously wrote:
On December 07 2013 20:49 m0ck wrote:
Those build order wins


If being intelligent is a build order win then yes, he won this series with build orders alone

It looks that way when it works


Does it strike you as strange that he makes it work so frequently?

Life looses plenty of ZvZs due to his risky/all in'ish style


And is currently on a 7-match win streak. I would love to be that lucky.

And before that lost 4 out of 5..

In fact, going by Aligulacs rating, ZvZ is by far his weakest match-up.

Intelligent or not, an all-in on top of a feint is still an all-in. And all-ins are all about taking a big risk for an effortless victory. Not that there is anything wrong with that.


All-ins aren't effortless.

Good, important point that really cuts to the heart of the issue


Sorry for my snarky tone. I just think it should be mentioned. Because there is some sort of idea that all-ins are somehow morally worse than playing like HasuObs.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
December 07 2013 12:07 GMT
#197
On December 07 2013 21:06 shid0x wrote:
Is take the second coming of jesus ?

He's the second coming of sundance. He gets it.
Neosteel Enthusiast
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
December 07 2013 12:08 GMT
#198
On December 07 2013 21:07 Ctesias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 21:04 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On December 07 2013 21:01 Heartland wrote:
We have to stop this rampant racism vs Protoss.

Reducing their number of effective all-ins might do that

I thought we hated Protoss end game?

Racism is a complex topic ^^
Neosteel Enthusiast
Swiipii
Profile Joined January 2012
2195 Posts
December 07 2013 12:08 GMT
#199
On December 07 2013 21:07 Ctesias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 21:04 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On December 07 2013 21:01 Heartland wrote:
We have to stop this rampant racism vs Protoss.

Reducing their number of effective all-ins might do that

I thought we hated Protoss end game?

At least they need some effort to reach this phase of the game.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
December 07 2013 12:08 GMT
#200
@Startale_Life 1m

Scarlett come on!!
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