On December 07 2013 20:49 m0ck wrote:
Those build order wins
Those build order wins
not really
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ApolloSC2
United Kingdom804 Posts
On December 07 2013 20:49 m0ck wrote: Those build order wins not really | ||
Walitgon
Australia550 Posts
On December 07 2013 20:49 m0ck wrote: Those build order wins Please mate | ||
Fyzar
Netherlands8010 Posts
On December 07 2013 20:49 ApolloSC2 wrote: use your noodle, why was he greedy? because he was shown something that led him to believe that he could get away with it, game isn't as simple as the comment you make I like that ^^. Life just playing this series really well. | ||
Qwerty85
Croatia5536 Posts
On December 07 2013 20:46 ArTiFaKs wrote: Show nested quote + On December 07 2013 20:40 Fjodorov wrote: fast paced series, lots of action. Im liking this ZvZ So what's everybody's problem with PvP then? Fast paced, lots of action... sounds like PvP or ZvZ to me! #StoptheProtossHate #FreeP #RaceEquality Well for me, ZvZ is entertaining as long as both don't tech up to roaches, after that it becomes boring. It is even boring if you get to some free vs. free unit scenario. PvP on the other hand always looks like 2 guys cheesing each other, but I don't watch too much PvP anyway and can't say I understand the matchup that much. | ||
FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On December 07 2013 20:47 Zealously wrote: Show nested quote + On December 07 2013 20:45 Fjodorov wrote: Does swarmhost have any role at all in ZvZ? Dont think ive ever seen them They would have been great in that one game between Roro and Symbol a while back They popped up every now and then early on in the more drawn out roach/hydra battles. Namely in HSC VII iirc. There's also been some muta/SH styles floating around here and there, but generally not much at all in pro ZvZ ![]() | ||
Dingodile
4133 Posts
It was exactly the same ZvT two years ago (T went marines+hellions+marauders). | ||
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NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
On December 07 2013 20:50 Qwerty85 wrote: Show nested quote + On December 07 2013 20:46 ArTiFaKs wrote: On December 07 2013 20:40 Fjodorov wrote: fast paced series, lots of action. Im liking this ZvZ So what's everybody's problem with PvP then? Fast paced, lots of action... sounds like PvP or ZvZ to me! #StoptheProtossHate #FreeP #RaceEquality Well for me, ZvZ is entertaining as long as both don't tech up to roaches, after that it becomes boring. It is even boring if you get to some free vs. free unit scenario. PvP on the other hand always looks like 2 guys cheesing each other, but I don't watch too much PvP anyway and can't say I understand the matchup that much. PvP is fun to watch but i think it sucks to play or at least from what I have observed. | ||
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On December 07 2013 20:49 m0ck wrote: Those build order wins If being intelligent is a build order win then yes, he won this series with build orders alone | ||
BakedButters
United States748 Posts
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Swiipii
2195 Posts
On December 07 2013 20:49 ApolloSC2 wrote: use your noodle, why was he greedy? because he was shown something that led him to believe that he could get away with it, game isn't as simple as the comment you make You don't throw down your third until you saw 2 evos and the roach warren. He didn't even have a spinecrowler and making a baneling nest after a speedling opening isn't going to cost you much. | ||
Raskit
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Sumahi
Guam5609 Posts
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ShakkaFL
Norway647 Posts
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m0ck
4194 Posts
On December 07 2013 20:53 Zealously wrote: If being intelligent is a build order win then yes, he won this series with build orders alone It looks that way when it works | ||
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ArTiFaKs
United States1229 Posts
On December 07 2013 20:51 NovemberstOrm wrote: Show nested quote + On December 07 2013 20:50 Qwerty85 wrote: On December 07 2013 20:46 ArTiFaKs wrote: On December 07 2013 20:40 Fjodorov wrote: fast paced series, lots of action. Im liking this ZvZ So what's everybody's problem with PvP then? Fast paced, lots of action... sounds like PvP or ZvZ to me! #StoptheProtossHate #FreeP #RaceEquality Well for me, ZvZ is entertaining as long as both don't tech up to roaches, after that it becomes boring. It is even boring if you get to some free vs. free unit scenario. PvP on the other hand always looks like 2 guys cheesing each other, but I don't watch too much PvP anyway and can't say I understand the matchup that much. PvP is fun to watch but i think it sucks to play or at least from what I have observed. Ya right now a lot of pro's say it's a coin flip with the openers, but I guess that could happen in any matchup just is very extreme in PvP right now. With such variety it's impossible to have a "safe" opener that protects against practically anything so players are forced to one or the other tech because of MSC imo. I'm guessing that's why it seems like it's "cheese" but really every unit is viable so it's chaotic, which is fun to watch for sure ![]() | ||
TheFlexN
Israel472 Posts
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On December 07 2013 20:54 m0ck wrote: Show nested quote + On December 07 2013 20:53 Zealously wrote: On December 07 2013 20:49 m0ck wrote: Those build order wins If being intelligent is a build order win then yes, he won this series with build orders alone It looks that way when it works Does it strike you as strange that he makes it work so frequently? | ||
ApolloSC2
United Kingdom804 Posts
On December 07 2013 20:54 TheFlexN wrote: Question to Apollo: Scarlett or the Dong, if thats the finals, who would you like to win? Scarlett, this tournament isn't big enough for Jaedong to claim his first win, it wouldn't feel right | ||
FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On December 07 2013 20:54 m0ck wrote: Show nested quote + On December 07 2013 20:53 Zealously wrote: On December 07 2013 20:49 m0ck wrote: Those build order wins If being intelligent is a build order win then yes, he won this series with build orders alone It looks that way when it works naw, I think we can give Life the benefit of the doubt. He tends to have a 6th sense for putting on the ling aggression | ||
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