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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 06 2013 22:57 GMT
#2841
On December 07 2013 07:54 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 07:53 Zealously wrote:
On December 07 2013 07:52 Xoronius wrote:
On December 07 2013 07:50 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Congrats to Scarlett!

On December 07 2013 07:32 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Embarrassing for MMA. Losing a series to Vortix.


Oh, those double standarts. Especially, since Vortix has slightly more accomplishments.


I don't think we can argue against Scarlett currently being better and performing better than Vortix though

Currently? No, certainly not. Does´nt change my point, though.


It does, actually. If one player is currently good and the other isn't (Scarlett/Vortix), one of two players (MMA/jjakji) of roughly equal skill shouldn't be losing to the inferior player. I disagree that losing to Vortix is "embarrassing" since the guy is pretty good still, but I can see the reasoning.
AdministratorBreak the chains
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12501 Posts
December 06 2013 22:57 GMT
#2842
On December 07 2013 07:56 Fjodorov wrote:
Hope Scarlett defeats Elfi because I want to see Jjakji vs Elfi.


Then again, jjakji likely wins that, and that's one less foreigner for midnight (yeah, I don't personnally care, I'm just playing the hype)
No will to live, no wish to die
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
December 06 2013 22:57 GMT
#2843
On December 07 2013 07:57 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 07:56 TheDwf wrote:
On December 07 2013 07:54 Swisslink wrote:
On December 07 2013 07:52 TheDwf wrote:
On December 07 2013 07:51 Hider wrote:
On December 07 2013 07:49 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
This make muta -> kill orbital -> burrow baneling combobreaker is pretty good


Yeh, I think she may have "revoulutiozed" TvZ. At least, I have a hard time seeing terran have any chance vs this unless they get some Ravens.

Abusing mass mutas is nothing new, nor revolutionary...


But the way he abuses the Baneling landmines all the time to secure the path for the Mutalisks to go back seems REALLY strong. On the other side I think Jjakji should just have gone for the kill instead of moving back and forth all the time. Pretty bad idea against someone like Scarlett imo.

Basetrades are hopeless since Zerg sees everything, kills your OCs and can spam hatch everywhere anyway.


Do you think jjakji misplayed when he got his third sniped?

Can't tell, was on another screen when it happened.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
December 06 2013 22:58 GMT
#2844
On December 07 2013 07:56 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 07:51 Hider wrote:
On December 07 2013 07:49 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
This make muta -> kill orbital -> burrow baneling combobreaker is pretty good


Yeh, I think she may have "revoulutiozed" TvZ. At least, I have a hard time seeing terran have any chance vs this unless they get some Ravens.


Tasteless is that you?

I'm pretty sure it's Drazerk.
Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
December 06 2013 22:58 GMT
#2845
On December 07 2013 07:57 tshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 07:52 Topin wrote:
On December 07 2013 07:52 WigglingSquid wrote:
On December 07 2013 07:51 Viserion wrote:
On December 07 2013 07:51 Hider wrote:
On December 07 2013 07:49 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
This make muta -> kill orbital -> burrow baneling combobreaker is pretty good


Yeh, I think she may have "revoulutiozed" TvZ. At least, I have a hard time seeing terran have any chance vs this unless they get some Ravens.


What are you going to do with Ravens?

Sob on their shattered remains.

HSM your medivac and speedbust to the mutaball ezpz

That's too creative for it to work


And the mutas would regen their health too.
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
December 06 2013 22:58 GMT
#2846
On December 07 2013 07:53 BlackCompany wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 07:52 sharkie wrote:
On December 07 2013 07:52 TheDwf wrote:
On December 07 2013 07:51 Hider wrote:
On December 07 2013 07:49 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
This make muta -> kill orbital -> burrow baneling combobreaker is pretty good


Yeh, I think she may have "revoulutiozed" TvZ. At least, I have a hard time seeing terran have any chance vs this unless they get some Ravens.

Abusing mass mutas is nothing new, nor revolutionary...


sniping orbitals to abuse burrowed banelings is


It feels good seeing Zerg using burrowed banes at all, its so cheap and can do so much damage, yet only very few people actually do it

They work best if you, you know, detonate them though.

J/k mucho love Scarlett, but you have to stop giving me heart palpitations like that, I'm not a young buck anymore.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
December 06 2013 22:58 GMT
#2847
On December 07 2013 07:56 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 07:55 BlackCompany wrote:
On December 07 2013 07:53 Dodgin wrote:
mutas will save foreigners just like bl/infestor did

all hail david kim


Maybe one day a foreign terran can win a series again. Or a game. Or well maybe at least make the game look close


You should trust Wulfen man. A star in the making.


You gotta be brave if you want to try your luck as terran as a foreigner, maybe he is the hero we need..
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
December 06 2013 22:58 GMT
#2848
Three more bo5's guys we can do this. It's only been 10 hours since we started.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46275 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-06 23:01:34
December 06 2013 22:58 GMT
#2849
On December 07 2013 07:52 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 07:50 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Congrats to Scarlett!

Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 07:32 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Embarrassing for MMA. Losing a series to Vortix.


Oh, those double standarts. Especially, since Vortix has slightly more accomplishments.


It's not a double standard. There are exactly two foreigners who are considered to be on par with mid/ top Koreans, and they're Scarlett and Naniwa. Vortix isn't ever even in the conversation lol which is why it's embarrassing for MMA to lose to him.

Also, I like Scarlett more than Vortix ffs. I'm allowed to cheer for one and not the other.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
December 06 2013 22:58 GMT
#2850
On December 07 2013 07:57 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 07:53 Zealously wrote:
On December 07 2013 07:52 Xoronius wrote:
On December 07 2013 07:50 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Congrats to Scarlett!

On December 07 2013 07:32 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Embarrassing for MMA. Losing a series to Vortix.


Oh, those double standarts. Especially, since Vortix has slightly more accomplishments.


I don't think we can argue against Scarlett currently being better and performing better than Vortix though

She hasn't advanced yet while VortiX is in the next round. Techincally VortiX is better currently. ;D


    (1652) Scarlett  0-0  VortiX (1690)      
---------------------------------------------
2.63% 5-0 0-5 3.69%
6.80% 5-1 1-5 8.92%
10.54% 5-2 2-5 12.92%
12.71% 5-3 3-5 14.57%
13.15% 5-4 4-5 14.07%
---------------------------------------------
45.82% 54.18%

Median outcome: Scarlett 4-5 VortiX
StutteR
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1903 Posts
December 06 2013 22:59 GMT
#2851
Scarlett was way behind until she sniped the 3rd
`~` | effOrt Movie sKyHigh forever & SEn
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8318 Posts
December 06 2013 22:59 GMT
#2852
What's up with the lighting? Just tuned into the stream.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-06 23:02:02
December 06 2013 22:59 GMT
#2853
On December 07 2013 07:58 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 07:57 StarVe wrote:
On December 07 2013 07:53 Zealously wrote:
On December 07 2013 07:52 Xoronius wrote:
On December 07 2013 07:50 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Congrats to Scarlett!

On December 07 2013 07:32 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Embarrassing for MMA. Losing a series to Vortix.


Oh, those double standarts. Especially, since Vortix has slightly more accomplishments.


I don't think we can argue against Scarlett currently being better and performing better than Vortix though

She hasn't advanced yet while VortiX is in the next round. Techincally VortiX is better currently. ;D


    (1652) Scarlett  0-0  VortiX (1690)      
---------------------------------------------
2.63% 5-0 0-5 3.69%
6.80% 5-1 1-5 8.92%
10.54% 5-2 2-5 12.92%
12.71% 5-3 3-5 14.57%
13.15% 5-4 4-5 14.07%
---------------------------------------------
45.82% 54.18%

Median outcome: Scarlett 4-5 VortiX

We only accept Bo69s.

Eh, in general I don't really care who is better or not, I just think lots of people don't rate VortiX appropriately because they dislike him for whatever reason. Maybe because he did well in late WoL while not being Scarlett.
Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
December 06 2013 23:00 GMT
#2854
Scarlett's beaten more Koreans than Vortix recently, that's all.
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
December 06 2013 23:00 GMT
#2855
On December 07 2013 07:57 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 07:53 Zealously wrote:
On December 07 2013 07:52 Xoronius wrote:
On December 07 2013 07:50 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Congrats to Scarlett!

On December 07 2013 07:32 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Embarrassing for MMA. Losing a series to Vortix.


Oh, those double standarts. Especially, since Vortix has slightly more accomplishments.


I don't think we can argue against Scarlett currently being better and performing better than Vortix though

She hasn't advanced yet while VortiX is in the next round. Techincally VortiX is better currently. ;D

I cannot express with words how sick I am of these debates.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-06 23:00:55
December 06 2013 23:00 GMT
#2856
On December 07 2013 07:58 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 07:52 Xoronius wrote:
On December 07 2013 07:50 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Congrats to Scarlett!

On December 07 2013 07:32 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Embarrassing for MMA. Losing a series to Vortix.


Oh, those double standarts. Especially, since Vortix has slightly more accomplishments.


It's not a double standard. There are exactly two foreigners who are considered to be on par with mid/ top Koreans, and they're Scarlett and Naniwa. Vortix isn't ever even in the conversation lol which is why it's embarrassing for MMA to lose to him.


Scarlett participates in many more tournaments than Vortix, can't blame Vortix's skills for her being more prominent representing the foreigners in the international scene.
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
December 06 2013 23:00 GMT
#2857
On December 07 2013 07:59 TheDougler wrote:
What's up with the lighting? Just tuned into the stream.

It's a patchwork stream (Grubby is obs/Khaldor is admin) as all the technical issues stalled the main production. They hope to have everything up for tomorrow.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 06 2013 23:01 GMT
#2858
On December 07 2013 08:00 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 07:57 StarVe wrote:
On December 07 2013 07:53 Zealously wrote:
On December 07 2013 07:52 Xoronius wrote:
On December 07 2013 07:50 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Congrats to Scarlett!

On December 07 2013 07:32 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Embarrassing for MMA. Losing a series to Vortix.


Oh, those double standarts. Especially, since Vortix has slightly more accomplishments.


I don't think we can argue against Scarlett currently being better and performing better than Vortix though

She hasn't advanced yet while VortiX is in the next round. Techincally VortiX is better currently. ;D

I cannot express with words how sick I am of these debates.


I think most of them are in jest at this point, no?
AdministratorBreak the chains
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
December 06 2013 23:01 GMT
#2859
On December 07 2013 07:53 Dodgin wrote:
mutas will save foreigners just like bl/infestor did

all hail david kim

This is particularly funny after Life beat innovation with BLs ^^
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
December 06 2013 23:01 GMT
#2860
On December 07 2013 07:59 TheDougler wrote:
What's up with the lighting? Just tuned into the stream.

This is Plan D. A, B and C failed.
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