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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On December 07 2013 07:54 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2013 07:53 Zealously wrote:On December 07 2013 07:52 Xoronius wrote:On December 07 2013 07:50 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Congrats to Scarlett! On December 07 2013 07:32 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Embarrassing for MMA. Losing a series to Vortix. Oh, those double standarts. Especially, since Vortix has slightly more accomplishments. I don't think we can argue against Scarlett currently being better and performing better than Vortix though Currently? No, certainly not. Does´nt change my point, though.
It does, actually. If one player is currently good and the other isn't (Scarlett/Vortix), one of two players (MMA/jjakji) of roughly equal skill shouldn't be losing to the inferior player. I disagree that losing to Vortix is "embarrassing" since the guy is pretty good still, but I can see the reasoning.
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On December 07 2013 07:56 Fjodorov wrote: Hope Scarlett defeats Elfi because I want to see Jjakji vs Elfi.
Then again, jjakji likely wins that, and that's one less foreigner for midnight (yeah, I don't personnally care, I'm just playing the hype)
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On December 07 2013 07:57 DJHelium wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2013 07:56 TheDwf wrote:On December 07 2013 07:54 Swisslink wrote:On December 07 2013 07:52 TheDwf wrote:On December 07 2013 07:51 Hider wrote:On December 07 2013 07:49 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: This make muta -> kill orbital -> burrow baneling combobreaker is pretty good Yeh, I think she may have "revoulutiozed" TvZ. At least, I have a hard time seeing terran have any chance vs this unless they get some Ravens. Abusing mass mutas is nothing new, nor revolutionary... But the way he abuses the Baneling landmines all the time to secure the path for the Mutalisks to go back seems REALLY strong. On the other side I think Jjakji should just have gone for the kill instead of moving back and forth all the time. Pretty bad idea against someone like Scarlett imo. Basetrades are hopeless since Zerg sees everything, kills your OCs and can spam hatch everywhere anyway. Do you think jjakji misplayed when he got his third sniped? Can't tell, was on another screen when it happened.
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On December 07 2013 07:56 DJHelium wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2013 07:51 Hider wrote:On December 07 2013 07:49 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: This make muta -> kill orbital -> burrow baneling combobreaker is pretty good Yeh, I think she may have "revoulutiozed" TvZ. At least, I have a hard time seeing terran have any chance vs this unless they get some Ravens. Tasteless is that you? I'm pretty sure it's Drazerk.
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On December 07 2013 07:57 tshi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2013 07:52 Topin wrote:On December 07 2013 07:52 WigglingSquid wrote:On December 07 2013 07:51 Viserion wrote:On December 07 2013 07:51 Hider wrote:On December 07 2013 07:49 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: This make muta -> kill orbital -> burrow baneling combobreaker is pretty good Yeh, I think she may have "revoulutiozed" TvZ. At least, I have a hard time seeing terran have any chance vs this unless they get some Ravens. What are you going to do with Ravens? Sob on their shattered remains. HSM your medivac and speedbust to the mutaball ezpz That's too creative for it to work
And the mutas would regen their health too.
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On December 07 2013 07:53 BlackCompany wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2013 07:52 sharkie wrote:On December 07 2013 07:52 TheDwf wrote:On December 07 2013 07:51 Hider wrote:On December 07 2013 07:49 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: This make muta -> kill orbital -> burrow baneling combobreaker is pretty good Yeh, I think she may have "revoulutiozed" TvZ. At least, I have a hard time seeing terran have any chance vs this unless they get some Ravens. Abusing mass mutas is nothing new, nor revolutionary... sniping orbitals to abuse burrowed banelings is It feels good seeing Zerg using burrowed banes at all, its so cheap and can do so much damage, yet only very few people actually do it They work best if you, you know, detonate them though.
J/k mucho love Scarlett, but you have to stop giving me heart palpitations like that, I'm not a young buck anymore.
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On December 07 2013 07:56 ZenithM wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2013 07:55 BlackCompany wrote:On December 07 2013 07:53 Dodgin wrote: mutas will save foreigners just like bl/infestor did
all hail david kim Maybe one day a foreign terran can win a series again. Or a game. Or well maybe at least make the game look close You should trust Wulfen man. A star in the making.
You gotta be brave if you want to try your luck as terran as a foreigner, maybe he is the hero we need..
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United States23455 Posts
Three more bo5's guys we can do this. It's only been 10 hours since we started.
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On December 07 2013 07:52 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2013 07:32 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Embarrassing for MMA. Losing a series to Vortix. Oh, those double standarts. Especially, since Vortix has slightly more accomplishments.
It's not a double standard. There are exactly two foreigners who are considered to be on par with mid/ top Koreans, and they're Scarlett and Naniwa. Vortix isn't ever even in the conversation lol which is why it's embarrassing for MMA to lose to him.
Also, I like Scarlett more than Vortix ffs. I'm allowed to cheer for one and not the other.
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On December 07 2013 07:57 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2013 07:53 Zealously wrote:On December 07 2013 07:52 Xoronius wrote:On December 07 2013 07:50 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Congrats to Scarlett! On December 07 2013 07:32 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Embarrassing for MMA. Losing a series to Vortix. Oh, those double standarts. Especially, since Vortix has slightly more accomplishments. I don't think we can argue against Scarlett currently being better and performing better than Vortix though She hasn't advanced yet while VortiX is in the next round. Techincally VortiX is better currently. ;D
(1652) Scarlett 0-0 VortiX (1690) --------------------------------------------- 2.63% 5-0 0-5 3.69% 6.80% 5-1 1-5 8.92% 10.54% 5-2 2-5 12.92% 12.71% 5-3 3-5 14.57% 13.15% 5-4 4-5 14.07% --------------------------------------------- 45.82% 54.18%
Median outcome: Scarlett 4-5 VortiX
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Scarlett was way behind until she sniped the 3rd
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What's up with the lighting? Just tuned into the stream.
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On December 07 2013 07:58 JustPassingBy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2013 07:57 StarVe wrote:On December 07 2013 07:53 Zealously wrote:On December 07 2013 07:52 Xoronius wrote:On December 07 2013 07:50 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Congrats to Scarlett! On December 07 2013 07:32 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Embarrassing for MMA. Losing a series to Vortix. Oh, those double standarts. Especially, since Vortix has slightly more accomplishments. I don't think we can argue against Scarlett currently being better and performing better than Vortix though She hasn't advanced yet while VortiX is in the next round. Techincally VortiX is better currently. ;D (1652) Scarlett 0-0 VortiX (1690) --------------------------------------------- 2.63% 5-0 0-5 3.69% 6.80% 5-1 1-5 8.92% 10.54% 5-2 2-5 12.92% 12.71% 5-3 3-5 14.57% 13.15% 5-4 4-5 14.07% --------------------------------------------- 45.82% 54.18%
Median outcome: Scarlett 4-5 VortiX We only accept Bo69s.
Eh, in general I don't really care who is better or not, I just think lots of people don't rate VortiX appropriately because they dislike him for whatever reason. Maybe because he did well in late WoL while not being Scarlett.
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Scarlett's beaten more Koreans than Vortix recently, that's all.
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On December 07 2013 07:57 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2013 07:53 Zealously wrote:On December 07 2013 07:52 Xoronius wrote:On December 07 2013 07:50 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Congrats to Scarlett! On December 07 2013 07:32 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Embarrassing for MMA. Losing a series to Vortix. Oh, those double standarts. Especially, since Vortix has slightly more accomplishments. I don't think we can argue against Scarlett currently being better and performing better than Vortix though She hasn't advanced yet while VortiX is in the next round. Techincally VortiX is better currently. ;D I cannot express with words how sick I am of these debates.
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On December 07 2013 07:58 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2013 07:52 Xoronius wrote:On December 07 2013 07:50 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Congrats to Scarlett! On December 07 2013 07:32 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Embarrassing for MMA. Losing a series to Vortix. Oh, those double standarts. Especially, since Vortix has slightly more accomplishments. It's not a double standard. There are exactly two foreigners who are considered to be on par with mid/ top Koreans, and they're Scarlett and Naniwa. Vortix isn't ever even in the conversation lol which is why it's embarrassing for MMA to lose to him.
Scarlett participates in many more tournaments than Vortix, can't blame Vortix's skills for her being more prominent representing the foreigners in the international scene.
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On December 07 2013 07:59 TheDougler wrote: What's up with the lighting? Just tuned into the stream. It's a patchwork stream (Grubby is obs/Khaldor is admin) as all the technical issues stalled the main production. They hope to have everything up for tomorrow.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On December 07 2013 08:00 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2013 07:57 StarVe wrote:On December 07 2013 07:53 Zealously wrote:On December 07 2013 07:52 Xoronius wrote:On December 07 2013 07:50 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Congrats to Scarlett! On December 07 2013 07:32 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Embarrassing for MMA. Losing a series to Vortix. Oh, those double standarts. Especially, since Vortix has slightly more accomplishments. I don't think we can argue against Scarlett currently being better and performing better than Vortix though She hasn't advanced yet while VortiX is in the next round. Techincally VortiX is better currently. ;D I cannot express with words how sick I am of these debates.
I think most of them are in jest at this point, no?
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On December 07 2013 07:53 Dodgin wrote: mutas will save foreigners just like bl/infestor did
all hail david kim This is particularly funny after Life beat innovation with BLs ^^
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On December 07 2013 07:59 TheDougler wrote: What's up with the lighting? Just tuned into the stream. This is Plan D. A, B and C failed.
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