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On November 10 2013 00:47 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2013 00:42 StarStruck wrote:On November 10 2013 00:40 lolfail9001 wrote:On November 10 2013 00:40 Faruko wrote:On November 10 2013 00:35 LuckoftheIrish wrote:On November 10 2013 00:29 JazzJackrabbit wrote:
How insane would it be if Jaedong wins this....jesus. If Jaedong wins, he probably becomes the best Starcraft player ever. Thats one good joke hahaha He will be. At least he will manage to actually win something in both starcrafts. *Shakes head* If Jaedong goes on to win this and then maybe even DH Winter. He will finish 2013 as the bester sc2 player. He showed more consistency than anybody with 4 finals and 2 ro4 since April. If you combine that with the fact that he is the eSportler that won the most prize money of anybody and his BW legacy, I think you'd have a solid case for calling him the best ever. He would be the first to have succeded in both starcrafts. That's all "ifs" of course. First he has to win.
I think you are forgeting that certain someone that got #1 in WCS by just playing WCS KR, not some EU shenanigans
Im not saying that JD cant be best sc2 player ever, but it cant be a 1-hooneymoon vacation on WCS GF just to be declared by that, he needs to show that consistency in KR no in AM/EU
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On November 10 2013 00:51 Pyloss wrote:
So, whats up with the "StarCraft II Exhibition"? A fungame? Monobattel? 4v4?
or something else?
I'm hoping for Nexus Wars for the Lols 
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On November 10 2013 00:54 Faruko wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2013 00:47 Musicus wrote:On November 10 2013 00:42 StarStruck wrote:On November 10 2013 00:40 lolfail9001 wrote:On November 10 2013 00:40 Faruko wrote:On November 10 2013 00:35 LuckoftheIrish wrote:On November 10 2013 00:29 JazzJackrabbit wrote:
How insane would it be if Jaedong wins this....jesus. If Jaedong wins, he probably becomes the best Starcraft player ever. Thats one good joke hahaha He will be. At least he will manage to actually win something in both starcrafts. *Shakes head* If Jaedong goes on to win this and then maybe even DH Winter. He will finish 2013 as the bester sc2 player. He showed more consistency than anybody with 4 finals and 2 ro4 since April. If you combine that with the fact that he is the eSportler that won the most prize money of anybody and his BW legacy, I think you'd have a solid case for calling him the best ever. He would be the first to have succeded in both starcrafts. That's all "ifs" of course. First he has to win. I think you are forgeting that certain someone that got #1 in WCS by just playing WCS KR, not some EU shenanigans
North America confirmed Europe
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On November 10 2013 00:54 Faruko wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2013 00:47 Musicus wrote:On November 10 2013 00:42 StarStruck wrote:On November 10 2013 00:40 lolfail9001 wrote:On November 10 2013 00:40 Faruko wrote:On November 10 2013 00:35 LuckoftheIrish wrote:On November 10 2013 00:29 JazzJackrabbit wrote:
How insane would it be if Jaedong wins this....jesus. If Jaedong wins, he probably becomes the best Starcraft player ever. Thats one good joke hahaha He will be. At least he will manage to actually win something in both starcrafts. *Shakes head* If Jaedong goes on to win this and then maybe even DH Winter. He will finish 2013 as the bester sc2 player. He showed more consistency than anybody with 4 finals and 2 ro4 since April. If you combine that with the fact that he is the eSportler that won the most prize money of anybody and his BW legacy, I think you'd have a solid case for calling him the best ever. He would be the first to have succeded in both starcrafts. That's all "ifs" of course. First he has to win. I think you are forgeting that certain someone that got #1 in WCS by just playing WCS KR, not some EU shenanigans
Ok let's say with or right behind Soulkey, consistency wise.
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Cheering for ya Jaedong, though I wont watch it
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On November 10 2013 00:54 Faruko wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2013 00:47 Musicus wrote:On November 10 2013 00:42 StarStruck wrote:On November 10 2013 00:40 lolfail9001 wrote:On November 10 2013 00:40 Faruko wrote:On November 10 2013 00:35 LuckoftheIrish wrote:On November 10 2013 00:29 JazzJackrabbit wrote:
How insane would it be if Jaedong wins this....jesus. If Jaedong wins, he probably becomes the best Starcraft player ever. Thats one good joke hahaha He will be. At least he will manage to actually win something in both starcrafts. *Shakes head* If Jaedong goes on to win this and then maybe even DH Winter. He will finish 2013 as the bester sc2 player. He showed more consistency than anybody with 4 finals and 2 ro4 since April. If you combine that with the fact that he is the eSportler that won the most prize money of anybody and his BW legacy, I think you'd have a solid case for calling him the best ever. He would be the first to have succeded in both starcrafts. That's all "ifs" of course. First he has to win. I think you are forgeting that certain someone that got #1 in WCS by just playing WCS KR, not some EU shenanigans
JD played in WCS AM which is also a really hard bracket.
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On November 10 2013 00:53 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2013 00:47 ffadicted wrote:On November 10 2013 00:40 Faruko wrote:On November 10 2013 00:35 LuckoftheIrish wrote:On November 10 2013 00:29 JazzJackrabbit wrote:
How insane would it be if Jaedong wins this....jesus. If Jaedong wins, he probably becomes the best Starcraft player ever. Thats one good joke hahaha ???? He's already been declared the most successful gamer of ANY game EVER as of last night, so... Gee I wonder who said that? Grain of salt folks.
http://www.esportsearnings.com/players you can add at least 17,500$ to Jaedong, which makes him number 1
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Not sure what I'm going to do with myself once the WCS is over. I might have to get a life...
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I still can't believe that JD vs Dear final game last night.. . So epic, made only more epic by how badly JD had played some of his muta games before that...
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On November 10 2013 00:36 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2013 00:35 LuckoftheIrish wrote:On November 10 2013 00:29 JazzJackrabbit wrote:
How insane would it be if Jaedong wins this....jesus. If Jaedong wins, he probably becomes the best Starcraft player ever. oh please.
Can we call him the b word then?
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On November 10 2013 00:57 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2013 00:53 StarStruck wrote:On November 10 2013 00:47 ffadicted wrote:On November 10 2013 00:40 Faruko wrote:On November 10 2013 00:35 LuckoftheIrish wrote:On November 10 2013 00:29 JazzJackrabbit wrote:
How insane would it be if Jaedong wins this....jesus. If Jaedong wins, he probably becomes the best Starcraft player ever. Thats one good joke hahaha ???? He's already been declared the most successful gamer of ANY game EVER as of last night, so... Gee I wonder who said that? Grain of salt folks. http://www.esportsearnings.com/players you can add at least 17,500$ to Jaedong, which makes him number 1
Then Alliance/Navi players are clearly going to be #1 in a matter of months, and i doubt any SC2 player will be able to top that, ever... now that prize money its so low compared to the old days of SCBW
Give Alliance/Navi players of dota 2 a few more months and JD its not going to be best ever... Just to remind you that Valve does a 1.5m (to the winner, around 3m total) or more tournament every year
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On November 10 2013 00:47 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2013 00:42 StarStruck wrote:On November 10 2013 00:40 lolfail9001 wrote:On November 10 2013 00:40 Faruko wrote:On November 10 2013 00:35 LuckoftheIrish wrote:On November 10 2013 00:29 JazzJackrabbit wrote:
How insane would it be if Jaedong wins this....jesus. If Jaedong wins, he probably becomes the best Starcraft player ever. Thats one good joke hahaha He will be. At least he will manage to actually win something in both starcrafts. *Shakes head* If Jaedong goes on to win this and then maybe even DH Winter. He will finish 2013 as the bester sc2 player. He showed more consistency than anybody with 4 finals and 2 ro4 since April. If you combine that with the fact that he is the eSportler that won the most prize money of anybody and his BW legacy, I think you'd have a solid case for calling him the best ever. He would be the first to have succeded in both starcrafts. That's all "ifs" of course. First he has to win.
No one would agree on such criteria. You do realize there are some people out there who think BoxeR. I repeat BoxeR is the best ever? Go figure. You will never find people agreeing on such a criteria and his BW legacy has always been overshadowed by Flash and the two other guys. You should have seen the BW forums back then because there would always be a good debate about it. Guess which side I was on back in '08? The Legend Killers. Guess where I stood after Flash's tear post 2010. Flash's. There really is no such thing as absolutes. Sure we talk about bonjwa's back in BW from time to time, but we haven't had one of those in a while because of those four guys and then Flash went on his spree and was declared by the Korean Media as "God." Under the current format and with all the events taking place in today's game. There can never be another Bonjwa. You can win a few tournaments in a row like Dear did, or go back to the Nestea/MVP days where they reigned for more than several months but it is practically impossible with the frequent updates and shifts in the game. It just won't happen, so when people use the word, 'best' you just have to frown upon them.
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On November 10 2013 00:59 Steveling wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2013 00:36 StarStruck wrote:On November 10 2013 00:35 LuckoftheIrish wrote:On November 10 2013 00:29 JazzJackrabbit wrote:
How insane would it be if Jaedong wins this....jesus. If Jaedong wins, he probably becomes the best Starcraft player ever. oh please. Can we call him the b word then?
wait until Bomber slaps him down. then you can call him Bomber's bitch.
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On November 10 2013 00:36 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2013 00:33 Musicus wrote:On November 10 2013 00:31 Zealously wrote:On November 10 2013 00:27 Musicus wrote:On November 10 2013 00:19 Zealously wrote:On November 10 2013 00:17 Musicus wrote:On November 10 2013 00:13 Zealously wrote:
I think:
Bomber vs JD finals will be the best for hype (game quality not guaranteed)
Maru vs Bomber will be the most satisfying for ST fans as we will once again be able to show our superiority
sOs vs Maru will involve a lot of cheese
Bomber vs sOs will be a 4-0 stomp What about sOs vs Jaedong? Well that's never going to happen Or is it? (1925) Bomber 0-0 sOs (1941)
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11.97% 3-0 0-3 13.05%
18.21% 3-1 1-3 19.29%
18.47% 3-2 2-3 19.01%
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48.65% 51.35%
Median outcome: Bomber 2-3 sOs (1778) Jaedong 0-0 Maru (1731)
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14.15% 3-0 0-3 10.98%
20.33% 3-1 1-3 17.17%
19.47% 3-2 2-3 17.90%
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53.95% 46.05%
Median outcome: Jaedong 3-2 Maru (1932) LucifroN 0-0 Soulkey (1763)
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18.97% 3-0 0-3 7.70%
24.21% 3-1 1-3 13.27%
20.60% 3-2 2-3 15.25%
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63.78% 36.22%
Median outcome: LucifroN 3-2 Soulkey All hail our new Aligulac overlords Mvp was also 70% favoured vs Jaedong yesterday  , still everything can happen. Doesn't really matter as long as Jaedong wins, and he will. That was complete bullshit though. MVP is no where near where he was. I think a lot of people expected Jaedong to stomp him and he did.
Those aligulac predictions are often quite off. Lucifron - Soulkey prediction is ridiculous. Soulkey would crush Lucifron even without keybord...
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On November 10 2013 00:57 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2013 00:53 StarStruck wrote:On November 10 2013 00:47 ffadicted wrote:On November 10 2013 00:40 Faruko wrote:On November 10 2013 00:35 LuckoftheIrish wrote:On November 10 2013 00:29 JazzJackrabbit wrote:
How insane would it be if Jaedong wins this....jesus. If Jaedong wins, he probably becomes the best Starcraft player ever. Thats one good joke hahaha ???? He's already been declared the most successful gamer of ANY game EVER as of last night, so... Gee I wonder who said that? Grain of salt folks. http://www.esportsearnings.com/players you can add at least 17,500$ to Jaedong, which makes him number 1
Yeah because entering more tournaments than most players really helps. Thanks to EG.
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Some of you guys should be hired as trash-talk consultants for the players lol
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On November 10 2013 01:00 Faruko wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2013 00:57 Musicus wrote:On November 10 2013 00:53 StarStruck wrote:On November 10 2013 00:47 ffadicted wrote:On November 10 2013 00:40 Faruko wrote:On November 10 2013 00:35 LuckoftheIrish wrote:On November 10 2013 00:29 JazzJackrabbit wrote:
How insane would it be if Jaedong wins this....jesus. If Jaedong wins, he probably becomes the best Starcraft player ever. Thats one good joke hahaha ???? He's already been declared the most successful gamer of ANY game EVER as of last night, so... Gee I wonder who said that? Grain of salt folks. http://www.esportsearnings.com/players you can add at least 17,500$ to Jaedong, which makes him number 1 Give Alliance/Navi players of dota 2 a few more months and JD its not going to be best ever... Just to remind you that Valve does a 1.5m (to the winner, around 3m total) or more tournament every year
Well then we can still filter just Starcraft and the original point still stands. Being the most succeful of any game for a long period of time will indeed be hard for any Starcraft player with the prize money in Mobas.
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On November 10 2013 01:02 TruEcz wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2013 00:36 StarStruck wrote:On November 10 2013 00:33 Musicus wrote:On November 10 2013 00:31 Zealously wrote:On November 10 2013 00:27 Musicus wrote:On November 10 2013 00:19 Zealously wrote:On November 10 2013 00:17 Musicus wrote:On November 10 2013 00:13 Zealously wrote:
I think:
Bomber vs JD finals will be the best for hype (game quality not guaranteed)
Maru vs Bomber will be the most satisfying for ST fans as we will once again be able to show our superiority
sOs vs Maru will involve a lot of cheese
Bomber vs sOs will be a 4-0 stomp What about sOs vs Jaedong? Well that's never going to happen Or is it? (1925) Bomber 0-0 sOs (1941)
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11.97% 3-0 0-3 13.05%
18.21% 3-1 1-3 19.29%
18.47% 3-2 2-3 19.01%
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48.65% 51.35%
Median outcome: Bomber 2-3 sOs (1778) Jaedong 0-0 Maru (1731)
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14.15% 3-0 0-3 10.98%
20.33% 3-1 1-3 17.17%
19.47% 3-2 2-3 17.90%
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53.95% 46.05%
Median outcome: Jaedong 3-2 Maru (1932) LucifroN 0-0 Soulkey (1763)
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18.97% 3-0 0-3 7.70%
24.21% 3-1 1-3 13.27%
20.60% 3-2 2-3 15.25%
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63.78% 36.22%
Median outcome: LucifroN 3-2 Soulkey All hail our new Aligulac overlords Mvp was also 70% favoured vs Jaedong yesterday , still everything can happen. Doesn't really matter as long as Jaedong wins, and he will. That was complete bullshit though. MVP is no where near where he was. I think a lot of people expected Jaedong to stomp him and he did. Those aligulac predictions are often quite off. LUcifron - Soulkey prediction is ridiculous. Soulkey would crush Lucifron even without keybord...
Yeah, yeah we know.
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On November 10 2013 00:54 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2013 00:53 StarStruck wrote:On November 10 2013 00:47 ffadicted wrote:On November 10 2013 00:40 Faruko wrote:On November 10 2013 00:35 LuckoftheIrish wrote:On November 10 2013 00:29 JazzJackrabbit wrote:
How insane would it be if Jaedong wins this....jesus. If Jaedong wins, he probably becomes the best Starcraft player ever. Thats one good joke hahaha ???? He's already been declared the most successful gamer of ANY game EVER as of last night, so... Gee I wonder who said that? Grain of salt folks. In terms or prize money alone, he is. That's actually undebatable. As for success in more abstract terms, I would agree he's not the most successful of all time.
At the end of the day in today's day and age, more $$$ for your work typically = more success lol
edit: I realize "best sc player ever" is not the right word. We should say most successful, it's hard to debate otherwise
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Success is a very subjective word.
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