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Let's cut down on the excessive hashtagging in this thread. This isn't Twitter.

Please don't "500!" on page 500 (and similar comments)

non twitch stream: http://eu.battle.net/blizzcon/en/live-stream/
GWdeathscythe
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1091 Posts
November 09 2013 04:57 GMT
#23221
On November 09 2013 13:53 Qwyn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2013 13:52 stuchiu wrote:
On November 09 2013 13:50 StarStruck wrote:
On November 09 2013 13:49 Arceus wrote:
Dong's ZvP of outbase-->baserace is legit but Dear's top1 control trumps everything


agreed with taking the outbasing concept. I don't agree with his unit composition though in game 2.


Game 2 was legit. He used Jaedong's tendency to not use roac hydra against him. Roach hydra is the medium comp thats decent against everything. Jaedong swings from extremes and Dear abused that fact and slaughtered him.


No Jaedong just lost because he decided to send his undefended swarmhosts to his fourth instead of his natural. Had he gone to the natural, sacked the fourth and fought with his queens, infestors and swarmhosts together he would have done quite well.

He was dead before the roach production ever began.

I agree with you. I feel like JD could 3-0 dear if he just did what you said in game 2 and didn't over extended attacking dear's 3rd in game 3. Now I hope he can pull the magic and win 3-2, 2 games in a row plz JD.
JD is BONJWA!
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
November 09 2013 04:58 GMT
#23222
On November 09 2013 13:56 Arceus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2013 13:54 Tobblish wrote:
On November 09 2013 13:54 Shellshock wrote:
These Polt vs sOs games are pretty good scrappy games

Starting to become the new TvP standard

you mean terran gets outplayed, forces a basetrade and win?


Getting the Protoss to go on the "fuck it I can't handle dealing with all these drops and attacks, time to end it"
Is the best feeling in the world..
The curse is real
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 09 2013 04:58 GMT
#23223
On November 09 2013 13:56 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2013 13:53 Qwyn wrote:
On November 09 2013 13:52 stuchiu wrote:
On November 09 2013 13:50 StarStruck wrote:
On November 09 2013 13:49 Arceus wrote:
Dong's ZvP of outbase-->baserace is legit but Dear's top1 control trumps everything


agreed with taking the outbasing concept. I don't agree with his unit composition though in game 2.


Game 2 was legit. He used Jaedong's tendency to not use roac hydra against him. Roach hydra is the medium comp thats decent against everything. Jaedong swings from extremes and Dear abused that fact and slaughtered him.


No Jaedong just lost because he decided to send his undefended swarmhosts to his fourth instead of his natural. Had he gone to the natural, sacked the fourth and fought with his queens, infestors and swarmhosts together he would have done quite well.

He was dead before the roach production ever began.


He had 3 parts of the army. Infestors, SH and Queens. With the warp prism he had to commit the queens and infestors to defense cause guess what? Dear can warp in 10 units at a time. He gave Jaedong a hard problem to solve, how do I protect my 4 bases? Even if you sac t fourth, Dear has shown he isn't above just waiting there and having his warp prism just kill you instead so Jaedong was in a bad spot. He needed to split is queens and infestors in a better ratio, but it was too hard and he lost his SH.


Mobility is your best friend.
Bonham
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada655 Posts
November 09 2013 04:58 GMT
#23224
How come Dear and Dong aren't in the same room a la Maru and Ducky? I miss those cuts to awkwardness.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
November 09 2013 04:58 GMT
#23225
HYPED
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
November 09 2013 04:58 GMT
#23226
Damn, Polt is a fighter!
Seed's # 1 fan!!! #ForVengeance
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
November 09 2013 04:58 GMT
#23227
that constant harass from sOs... but polt countering with drops.. and snipes 3rd!! that archon ball is getting big!
jakethesnake
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada4948 Posts
November 09 2013 04:58 GMT
#23228
On November 09 2013 13:57 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2013 13:56 Bonham wrote:
On November 09 2013 13:55 BisuDagger wrote:
On November 09 2013 13:53 Shellshock wrote:
On November 09 2013 13:53 BisuDagger wrote:
On November 09 2013 13:52 Shellshock wrote:
On November 09 2013 13:52 BisuDagger wrote:
On November 09 2013 13:50 The_Templar wrote:
On November 09 2013 13:49 BisuDagger wrote:
On November 09 2013 13:48 The_Templar wrote:
ok I'm done for tonight, internet cuts off in 10 minutes

Those damn US internet rations.

no it's my parents haha

#Being16
Too bad they won't let you stay up long since it's the weekend. I'd force my kids to say awake and watch this regardless of age.

even if it was a KT vs KT final?

KT would lose. Totally worth it.

touche. can't argue with that

I just realized I need to have kids! Any TL ladies feeling lucky?

There are TL ladies?

opterown


Ziiing! round 2!
Community Newsjjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji nshoseo.jpg
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19351 Posts
November 09 2013 04:58 GMT
#23229
On November 09 2013 13:56 NPF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2013 13:55 BisuDagger wrote:
On November 09 2013 13:53 Shellshock wrote:
On November 09 2013 13:53 BisuDagger wrote:
On November 09 2013 13:52 Shellshock wrote:
On November 09 2013 13:52 BisuDagger wrote:
On November 09 2013 13:50 The_Templar wrote:
On November 09 2013 13:49 BisuDagger wrote:
On November 09 2013 13:48 The_Templar wrote:
ok I'm done for tonight, internet cuts off in 10 minutes

Those damn US internet rations.

no it's my parents haha

#Being16
Too bad they won't let you stay up long since it's the weekend. I'd force my kids to say awake and watch this regardless of age.

even if it was a KT vs KT final?

KT would lose. Totally worth it.

touche. can't argue with that

I just realized I need to have kids! Any TL ladies feeling lucky?


There always adoption

Any TL ladies want to give me their kid? (Accepting protoss race picking kids only).
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Caladan
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany1238 Posts
November 09 2013 04:58 GMT
#23230
On November 09 2013 13:56 Bonham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2013 13:55 BisuDagger wrote:
On November 09 2013 13:53 Shellshock wrote:
On November 09 2013 13:53 BisuDagger wrote:
On November 09 2013 13:52 Shellshock wrote:
On November 09 2013 13:52 BisuDagger wrote:
On November 09 2013 13:50 The_Templar wrote:
On November 09 2013 13:49 BisuDagger wrote:
On November 09 2013 13:48 The_Templar wrote:
ok I'm done for tonight, internet cuts off in 10 minutes

Those damn US internet rations.

no it's my parents haha

#Being16
Too bad they won't let you stay up long since it's the weekend. I'd force my kids to say awake and watch this regardless of age.

even if it was a KT vs KT final?

KT would lose. Totally worth it.

touche. can't argue with that

I just realized I need to have kids! Any TL ladies feeling lucky?

There are TL ladies?


There are no girls on the internet.
Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2779 Posts
November 09 2013 04:58 GMT
#23231
On November 09 2013 13:56 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2013 13:53 Qwyn wrote:
On November 09 2013 13:52 stuchiu wrote:
On November 09 2013 13:50 StarStruck wrote:
On November 09 2013 13:49 Arceus wrote:
Dong's ZvP of outbase-->baserace is legit but Dear's top1 control trumps everything


agreed with taking the outbasing concept. I don't agree with his unit composition though in game 2.


Game 2 was legit. He used Jaedong's tendency to not use roac hydra against him. Roach hydra is the medium comp thats decent against everything. Jaedong swings from extremes and Dear abused that fact and slaughtered him.


No Jaedong just lost because he decided to send his undefended swarmhosts to his fourth instead of his natural. Had he gone to the natural, sacked the fourth and fought with his queens, infestors and swarmhosts together he would have done quite well.

He was dead before the roach production ever began.


He had 3 parts of the army. Infestors, SH and Queens. With the warp prism he had to commit the queens and infestors to defense cause guess what? Dear can warp in 10 units at a time. He gave Jaedong a hard problem to solve, how do I protect my 4 bases? Even if you sac t fourth, Dear has shown he isn't above just waiting there and having his warp prism just kill you instead so Jaedong was in a bad spot. He needed to split is queens and infestors in a better ratio, but it was too hard and he lost his SH.


He lost his swarmhosts because he sent them to the THIRD ( a very clear and depressing action) allowing dear to just kill them.

Between saccing the 4th and keeping your whole army together at the natural it is obvious what is the stronger choice. The loss had nothing to do with making roaches he lost the moment he sent his SH to his third giving Dear the opportunity to shit on them.

Yes it's a hard sitatuation to assess obviously but it's clear that was the wrong decision...
"Think of the hysteria following the realization that they consciously consume babies and raise the dead people from their graves" - N0
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
November 09 2013 04:58 GMT
#23232
polt needs to snipe the other TC!!
DMXD
Profile Joined February 2008
United States4064 Posts
November 09 2013 04:58 GMT
#23233
artosis pylon
ShadowReaver
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada563 Posts
November 09 2013 04:58 GMT
#23234
lets go POLT!
templar rage
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2509 Posts
November 09 2013 04:58 GMT
#23235
On November 09 2013 13:58 Tobblish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2013 13:56 Arceus wrote:
On November 09 2013 13:54 Tobblish wrote:
On November 09 2013 13:54 Shellshock wrote:
These Polt vs sOs games are pretty good scrappy games

Starting to become the new TvP standard

you mean terran gets outplayed, forces a basetrade and win?


Getting the Protoss to go on the "fuck it I can't handle dealing with all these drops and attacks, time to end it"
Is the best feeling in the world..


Doing it with mutas against T/P is the same way.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 09 2013 04:58 GMT
#23236
On November 09 2013 13:58 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2013 13:56 stuchiu wrote:
On November 09 2013 13:53 Qwyn wrote:
On November 09 2013 13:52 stuchiu wrote:
On November 09 2013 13:50 StarStruck wrote:
On November 09 2013 13:49 Arceus wrote:
Dong's ZvP of outbase-->baserace is legit but Dear's top1 control trumps everything


agreed with taking the outbasing concept. I don't agree with his unit composition though in game 2.


Game 2 was legit. He used Jaedong's tendency to not use roac hydra against him. Roach hydra is the medium comp thats decent against everything. Jaedong swings from extremes and Dear abused that fact and slaughtered him.


No Jaedong just lost because he decided to send his undefended swarmhosts to his fourth instead of his natural. Had he gone to the natural, sacked the fourth and fought with his queens, infestors and swarmhosts together he would have done quite well.

He was dead before the roach production ever began.


He had 3 parts of the army. Infestors, SH and Queens. With the warp prism he had to commit the queens and infestors to defense cause guess what? Dear can warp in 10 units at a time. He gave Jaedong a hard problem to solve, how do I protect my 4 bases? Even if you sac t fourth, Dear has shown he isn't above just waiting there and having his warp prism just kill you instead so Jaedong was in a bad spot. He needed to split is queens and infestors in a better ratio, but it was too hard and he lost his SH.


Mobility is your best friend.


Mobility is the reason I chose to main zerg. Though when I played Toss and Terran, I only used mobile comps.
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Bonham
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada655 Posts
November 09 2013 04:59 GMT
#23237
Aw, man, I missed my window to pee before game 4 started. GOSU BLADDER ENGAGE
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
November 09 2013 04:59 GMT
#23238
polt, kill the TC - and why no bunkers!!!
Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
November 09 2013 04:59 GMT
#23239
On November 09 2013 13:58 y0su wrote:
polt needs to snipe the other TC!!

TC?
Countdown to victory: 1 200!
Vesky
Profile Joined January 2013
United States857 Posts
November 09 2013 04:59 GMT
#23240
Fuck, with those hts that's like 12 archons.
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