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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 11 2013 20:12 GMT
#1681
On October 12 2013 05:11 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 05:09 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:06 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:05 herMan wrote:
No one seems to remember flash's absolute tear at proleague. This community sure has a short memory.

He actually has a lower WR than Innovation at proleague. He was played by Kt almost every game though.

Yes he had a lower win rate than INNOVATION at proleague (by less than .5%) and was only played two more times than Innovation, so that clearly means his record in proleague wasn't that good.


PL was overrated, It was missing the other half of the really good Korean players.

This one too. And yes, if you talk about on a tear, you may want to consider if his winrate was an on a tear.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
openbox1
Profile Joined March 2011
1393 Posts
October 11 2013 20:12 GMT
#1682
I think that's what Koreans have to do to foreigners. Stress their micro and multi-tasking.
Vs Toss, its too hard to just let them go that far into the late game especially if you aren't dropping like Flash on whirlwind and Toss is using warp prisms
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
October 11 2013 20:12 GMT
#1683
Flash so humble. But State did great in game2.

And ... Video stutter...
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Megiddosc
Profile Joined April 2011
United States966 Posts
October 11 2013 20:12 GMT
#1684
Impressive by State to take advantage in 2 macro games (though definitely a costly mistake in the first game) to force the cheese out of Flash.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
October 11 2013 20:12 GMT
#1685
Now flash needs to step it up and show godlike TvZ because I still remember that Inno vs Curious series and my god curious can play ZvT when he wants to
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
October 11 2013 20:12 GMT
#1686
LR threads so full of whine
Hello
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18572 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-11 20:13:41
October 11 2013 20:13 GMT
#1687
On October 12 2013 05:07 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 05:05 sharkie wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:04 SoFrOsTy wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:02 sharkie wrote:
On October 12 2013 04:59 Fat_Elephant wrote:
Hmmmm, I wasnt interested in StarCraft when Flash was dominating Broodwar. Im wondering how much of his skill was placed on the much higher demands of mechanics as opposed to overall game sense. Maybe players like Jaedong and Flash simply succeeded because there wasnt as much leniency in BW then today. idk


Jaedong is top3 zerg in sc2, dont compare him to the average terran


Top 3? You think he is better than soO, Soulkey, Hyvaa, Dongraegu, and Symbol? I don't think so. He is definitely below them. I might even put him below Hyun ATM.


better than hyvaa, drg and symbol easily
soo and soulkey depends on the matchups


Nah. His ZvZ is worse than Hyun. DRG's ZvT is better than Jaedong's. His ZvP is at best even with Soo and Soulkey, same thing for his ZvZ. But his ZvT is much worse than either of them.

You're underrating Symbol and Hyvaa greatly.


Symbol below 50% winrate, hyvaa barely 50% - no further need to mention those two
DRG is better in ONE matchup (1 > 2 or what?)
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 11 2013 20:13 GMT
#1688
On October 12 2013 05:12 DinoToss wrote:
God does play dice ;/


Didnt seem that gambly to me. In the first game he did a 1 widow mine drop marine pressure and it did pretty decent damage. There is no reason to think State would do worse on a smaller map with double the widow mines.
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TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
October 11 2013 20:13 GMT
#1689
On October 12 2013 05:11 LimeNade wrote:
can someone PM me a quick summary of game 3 of Flash vs State? I walked away for like 4 minutes at the beginning of the game and I come back and it was over lol

Flash proxy factory adn starport, pushes the natural of State with marines while dropping 2 mines which kills 11 workers in the main then the marines, along with a couple good widow mine hits on states army, kill him.
#TheOneTrueDong
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
October 11 2013 20:13 GMT
#1690
ah. he noticed the medivac but stayed 2 seconds too long trying to put the forcefield on the ramp.

hurts.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
October 11 2013 20:13 GMT
#1691
haha.. god does what he wants.
~ The Ultimate Weapon
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
October 11 2013 20:13 GMT
#1692
On October 12 2013 05:12 GumBa wrote:
Now flash needs to step it up and show godlike TvZ because I still remember that Inno vs Curious series and my god curious can play ZvT when he wants to

Yes, it will be very difficult.
DinoToss
Profile Joined August 2013
Poland507 Posts
October 11 2013 20:13 GMT
#1693
Wax seems dissapointed ? :p
My wrist really started to flare up. My colossi number started to pile up and with the last of my concentration I prepared for a win.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
October 11 2013 20:13 GMT
#1694
yay back to roots Flash ! first cheese them then become the macro god when they fear you.
aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
October 11 2013 20:14 GMT
#1695
On October 12 2013 05:12 Sufinsil wrote:
State was fine if he did not panic. Bad probe pull and photon at wrong location.


Hmm. Those probe pulls are difficult. You lose probes regardless.

I agree with the photon overcharge at the wrong location, though.
KT best KT ~ 2014
Wiggins8
Profile Joined October 2013
Germany107 Posts
October 11 2013 20:14 GMT
#1696
Flash: "I'm outta here..."
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
October 11 2013 20:14 GMT
#1697
Ok... Twitch telling me stream is down but... sounds still running in the background
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 11 2013 20:14 GMT
#1698
On October 12 2013 05:13 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 05:07 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:05 sharkie wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:04 SoFrOsTy wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:02 sharkie wrote:
On October 12 2013 04:59 Fat_Elephant wrote:
Hmmmm, I wasnt interested in StarCraft when Flash was dominating Broodwar. Im wondering how much of his skill was placed on the much higher demands of mechanics as opposed to overall game sense. Maybe players like Jaedong and Flash simply succeeded because there wasnt as much leniency in BW then today. idk


Jaedong is top3 zerg in sc2, dont compare him to the average terran


Top 3? You think he is better than soO, Soulkey, Hyvaa, Dongraegu, and Symbol? I don't think so. He is definitely below them. I might even put him below Hyun ATM.


better than hyvaa, drg and symbol easily
soo and soulkey depends on the matchups


Nah. His ZvZ is worse than Hyun. DRG's ZvT is better than Jaedong's. His ZvP is at best even with Soo and Soulkey, same thing for his ZvZ. But his ZvT is much worse than either of them.

You're underrating Symbol and Hyvaa greatly.


Symbol below 50% winrate, hyvaa barely 50%
DRG is better in ONE matchup (1 > 2 or what?)


Symbol and Hyvaa also didn't run away from Code S and didn't get the chance to bolster their winrates through going to every lan outside of Korea. DRG is better in ZvT, but I can't prove or disprove his ZvP or ZvZ is better or worse because there is no data on it.
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rave[wcr]
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1166 Posts
October 11 2013 20:14 GMT
#1699
nooooooooooooooo stream
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
October 11 2013 20:14 GMT
#1700
On October 12 2013 05:13 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 05:12 GumBa wrote:
Now flash needs to step it up and show godlike TvZ because I still remember that Inno vs Curious series and my god curious can play ZvT when he wants to

Yes, it will be very difficult.

But it could also be soooooooo sick if Flash plays to his potential!
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
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