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![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/shiroiusagi/wcs/wcs_eu_lr.jpg) Tuesday, Oct 08 4:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Season_3_Europe/Challenger TL Preview:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/r9ZH0.png) Casters: Madals and Zombiegrub![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/7/7f/Twitch_ico.png) WCS Europe2
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/6wl40.png) ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/2579.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/2169.jpg)   sLivko vs   SaSe
Starting map: ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/1593.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/1836.jpg)  TLO vs  elfi
Starting map:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/bv8Kw.png) Everything is fine+ Show Spoiler [Spoiler-Free] ++ Show Spoiler [Overall Results] +
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/l5YZ8.png) + Show Spoiler +
sLivko vs SaSe Game 1
sLivko vs SaSe Game 2
sLivko vs SaSe Game 3
TLO vs elfi Game 1
TLO vs elfi Game 2
TLO vs elfi Game 3
Winners' Match Game 1
Winners' Match Game 2
Winners' Match Game 3
Losers' Match Game 1
Losers' Match Game 2
Losers' Match Game 3
Final Match Game 1
Final Match Game 2
Final Match Game 3
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/3wcCS.png) + Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler [sLivko vs SaSe] +Poll: Recommend sLivko vs. SaSe game 1?★★★★★- One of the best games this season (3) 50% ★- Do not see this game no matter what (2) 33% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 17% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (0) 0% 6 total votes Your vote: Recommend sLivko vs. SaSe game 1? (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend sLivko vs. SaSe game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (3) 50% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2) 33% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 17% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (0) 0% 6 total votes Your vote: Recommend sLivko vs. SaSe game 2? (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend sLivko vs. SaSe game 3?★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 33% ★★★- Good game (2) 33% ★- Do not see this game no matter what (2) 33% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% 6 total votes Your vote: Recommend sLivko vs. SaSe game 3? (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend TLO vs elfi Game 1?★ - Do not see this game no matter what (2) 67% ★★★ - Good game (1) 33% ★★★★★ - One of the best games of the season (0) 0% ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% 3 total votes Your vote: Recommend TLO vs elfi Game 1? (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games of the season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend TLO vs elfi Game 2?★★★ - Good game (5) 63% ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (2) 25% ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 13% ★★★★★ - One of the best games of the season (0) 0% ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0) 0% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend TLO vs elfi Game 2? (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games of the season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend TLO vs elfi Game 3?★★★★★ - One of the best games of the season (2) 33% ★★★ - Good game (2) 33% ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1) 17% ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1) 17% ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% 6 total votes Your vote: Recommend TLO vs elfi Game 3? (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games of the season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend sLivko vs. TLO game 1?★★★- Good game (1) 50% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 50% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% 2 total votes Your vote: Recommend sLivko vs. TLO game 1? (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend sLivko vs. TLO game 2?★★★- Good game (3) 75% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 25% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% 4 total votes Your vote: Recommend sLivko vs. TLO game 2? (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend sLivko vs. TLO game 3?★★★- Good game (6) 55% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (3) 27% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 9% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 9% ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% 11 total votes Your vote: Recommend sLivko vs. TLO game 3? (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend elfi vs. Sase game 1?★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2) 100% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (0) 0% ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% 2 total votes Your vote: Recommend elfi vs. Sase game 1? (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend elfi vs. Sase game 2?★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3) 100% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (0) 0% ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% 3 total votes Your vote: Recommend elfi vs. Sase game 2? (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend elfi vs. Sase game 3?★★★★★- One of the best games this season (7) 100% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend elfi vs. Sase game 3? (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend TLO vs. elfi game 1?★★★- Good game (3) 100% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% 3 total votes Your vote: Recommend TLO vs. elfi game 1? (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend TLO vs. elfi game 2?★★★- Good game (2) 67% ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1) 33% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% 3 total votes Your vote: Recommend TLO vs. elfi game 2? (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend TLO vs. elfi game 3?★★★- Good game (3) 100% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% 3 total votes Your vote: Recommend TLO vs. elfi game 3? (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
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Poll: Who will get out of this group?TLO (4) 36% elfi (4) 36% sLivko (2) 18% SaSe (1) 9% 11 total votes Your vote: Who will get out of this group? (Vote): sLivko
(Vote): SaSe
(Vote): TLO
(Vote): elfi
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
Someone please volunteer to take over the thread. NovstOrm would normally do it but he lost a temp ban bet against me on the Trap vs jjakji game earlier today :p
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
If no one shows interest in this then this will likely have to be closed.
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I would lichter but I am at work  I'll handle the Liquipedia bit as best I can.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
Come on someone be a hero
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Actionpacked first 30 minutes :D
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And for the second night *in a row*, WCS is over 30 minutes late starting... This is getting ridiculous.
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On October 09 2013 01:31 Tritone wrote:
And for the second night *in a row*, WCS is over 30 minutes late starting... This is getting ridiculous.
And if no one volunteers, it won't have an updated LR thread either =/
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chat seems to think that SaSe is late?
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Russian Federation823 Posts
Who is the girl co-casting?
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
If you're going to watch the whole broadcast might as well be the OP? :D
Anyone? :D
On October 09 2013 01:43 kusto wrote:
Who is the girl co-casting?
Zombiegrub
Also what happened to sLivko vs SaSe
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Poll: Recommend TLO vs elfi Game 1?★ - Do not see this game no matter what (2) 67% ★★★ - Good game (1) 33% ★★★★★ - One of the best games of the season (0) 0% ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% 3 total votes Your vote: Recommend TLO vs elfi Game 1? (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games of the season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
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On October 09 2013 01:45 lichter wrote:
Also what happened to sLivko vs SaSe
Lag issues, apparently. Hopefully they'll get resolved, although I'm a bit worried for SaSe.
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Denmark244 Posts
How refreshing with a female caster
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
It's 1am, I need a replacement OP in a few minutes so that I can tell an admin
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On October 09 2013 01:54 InspiredFrog wrote:Lag issues, apparently. Hopefully they'll get resolved, although I'm a bit worried for SaSe.
The Russian caster showed the WCS lobby chat - basically, Slivko was late because he claims admins gave him the wrong date (which seems very possible given their track record). He's also saying that he can't play on NA, and has to play on EU because he lags from Russia to NA. SaSe responded that he was playing from Taiwan to EU and it would be the same for him because he lags there, and asked if Slivko could play on KR. Both are blaming the admins/rules (it's EU server unless both players agree another server, but they can't agree because Sase wants NA or KR and Slivko wants EU only).
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Gogogo Elfi!! Great casters for a change too! 
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I don't think Elfi or SaSe has the PvZ to get out of this group, though it depends on which SaSe we see today. Elfi has the most uphill battle.
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On October 09 2013 01:45 lichter wrote:If you're going to watch the whole broadcast might as well be the OP? :D Anyone? :D Zombiegrub Also what happened to sLivko vs SaSe
ZombieGrub has a man as twitter-picture, so I was very confused as well.
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On October 09 2013 01:57 orangeorange wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 01:54 InspiredFrog wrote:On October 09 2013 01:45 lichter wrote:
Also what happened to sLivko vs SaSe Lag issues, apparently. Hopefully they'll get resolved, although I'm a bit worried for SaSe. The Russian caster showed the WCS lobby chat - basically, Slivko was late because he claims admins gave him the wrong date (which seems very possible given their track record). He's also saying that he can't play on NA, and has to play on EU because he lags from Russia to NA. SaSe responded that he was playing from Taiwan to EU and it would be the same for him because he lags there, and asked if Slivko could play on KR. Both are blaming the admins/rules (it's EU server unless both players agree another server, but they can't agree because Sase wants NA or KR and Slivko wants EU only).
Oh ok, thanks! Kinda sad if they keep on misinforming the players about the dates/times. :/
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On October 09 2013 02:00 Zheryn wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 01:45 lichter wrote:If you're going to watch the whole broadcast might as well be the OP? :D Anyone? :D On October 09 2013 01:43 kusto wrote:
Who is the girl co-casting? Zombiegrub Also what happened to sLivko vs SaSe ZombieGrub has a man as twitter-picture, so I was very confused as well.
Her twitter profile picture is Boxer!!!!
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I find your lack of immortals disturbing. Also here is hoping TLO doesn't do what Moonglade did in this position against top last night.
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Poll: Recommend TLO vs elfi Game 2?★★★ - Good game (5) 63% ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (2) 25% ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 13% ★★★★★ - One of the best games of the season (0) 0% ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0) 0% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend TLO vs elfi Game 2? (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games of the season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
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Poll: Recommend TLO vs elfi Game 3?★★★★★ - One of the best games of the season (2) 33% ★★★ - Good game (2) 33% ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1) 17% ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1) 17% ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% 6 total votes Your vote: Recommend TLO vs elfi Game 3? (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games of the season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
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TLO abusing where he's good and elfi is awful. Multitasking.
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That's it for me today (1am here, I have work in 4 hours). If anyone wants to take over the OP, please message an admin.
Goodnight.
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On October 09 2013 02:00 Zheryn wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 01:45 lichter wrote:If you're going to watch the whole broadcast might as well be the OP? :D Anyone? :D On October 09 2013 01:43 kusto wrote:
Who is the girl co-casting? Zombiegrub Also what happened to sLivko vs SaSe ZombieGrub has a man as twitter-picture, so I was very confused as well.
That man is Boxer lol.
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On October 09 2013 02:09 lichter wrote:
That's it for me today (1am here, I have work in 4 hours). If anyone wants to take over the OP, please message an admin.
Goodnight.
Night night licter.
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Elfi needs to get used to that. That kind of play won't show any decline as the game progresses and zergs get better.
Well done, TLO. You're showing us you know how to close out a game, whereas before you didn't seem sure.
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Elfi is just too slow to play effectively in the late game against aggressive zergs with good multitasking who wont sit back and let him macro in peace.
Also, would be cool to get some kind of update on what's going on through the stream.
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On October 09 2013 02:18 Squat wrote:
Also, would be cool to get some kind of update on what's going on through the stream.
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The first challenge is always getting it up...
The 3rd on Derelict Watcher that is.
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On October 09 2013 02:36 mythandier wrote:
The first challenge is always getting it up...
The 3rd on Derelict Watcher that is.
When the Dong plays he never has any issue getting it up.
Sase with either major lags or derp.
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That was the most awkward game I've ever seen.
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Wouldn't be esports without drama.
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anyone saw what sase wrote? :D
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On October 09 2013 02:44 75 wrote:
anyone saw what sase wrote? :D
No sorry, he tapped out before I was able to read it. T_T
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Poll: Recommend sLivko vs. SaSe game 1?★★★★★- One of the best games this season (3) 50% ★- Do not see this game no matter what (2) 33% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 17% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (0) 0% 6 total votes Your vote: Recommend sLivko vs. SaSe game 1? (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
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So if I read the first screenshot correctly, they only sent them the info that they have to play today yesterday?! Well that is a bit late, isn't it?
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On October 09 2013 02:44 IntoTheheart wrote:No sorry, he tapped out before I was able to read it. T_T
something like "gg thx for making me wait 2 hours"
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Good bronze league game, looking forward to further lols
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Kill Hatch, port home, profit?!
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On October 09 2013 02:45 CruelZeratul wrote:
Kill Hatch, port home, profit?!
I actually thought that he would've been okay with the MSC surviving.
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SaSe is playing super angry, ZvP this map Slivko would be insane not to go muta to try and get him tilting harder.
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On October 09 2013 02:46 ThomasjServo wrote:
SaSe is playing super angry, ZvP this map Slivko would be insane not to go muta to try and get him tilting harder.
SaSe's temper has always been his main weakness, he is very good skill wise, but often his own worst enemy. Troll tactics can be surprisingly effective against him if you can get him to start tilting.
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Poll: Recommend sLivko vs. SaSe game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (3) 50% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2) 33% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 17% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (0) 0% 6 total votes Your vote: Recommend sLivko vs. SaSe game 2? (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend sLivko vs. SaSe game 3?★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 33% ★★★- Good game (2) 33% ★- Do not see this game no matter what (2) 33% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% 6 total votes Your vote: Recommend sLivko vs. SaSe game 3? (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
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Strange game by Sase, don't get what the plan was there
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On October 09 2013 02:51 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 02:46 ThomasjServo wrote:
SaSe is playing super angry, ZvP this map Slivko would be insane not to go muta to try and get him tilting harder. SaSe's temper has always been his main weakness, he is very good skill wise, but often his own worst enemy. Troll tactics can be surprisingly effective against him if you can get him to start tilting.
Seems like he may have some justification, especially when you compare what happened with Polt in WCS NA.
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On October 09 2013 02:51 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 02:46 ThomasjServo wrote:
SaSe is playing super angry, ZvP this map Slivko would be insane not to go muta to try and get him tilting harder. SaSe's temper has always been his main weakness, he is very good skill wise, but often his own worst enemy. Troll tactics can be surprisingly effective against him if you can get him to start tilting.
Think so to, people often talk about Naniwa regarding this stuff, but I think Sase is more prone to tilting.
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Now we have TLO's 60% win rate in ZvZ to Slivko's 40%, this should be interesting.
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I've been updating the OP since lichter left but I have class soon. Does anyone want to message an admin to take over it?
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On October 09 2013 02:55 4ZakeN87 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 02:51 Squat wrote:On October 09 2013 02:46 ThomasjServo wrote:
SaSe is playing super angry, ZvP this map Slivko would be insane not to go muta to try and get him tilting harder. SaSe's temper has always been his main weakness, he is very good skill wise, but often his own worst enemy. Troll tactics can be surprisingly effective against him if you can get him to start tilting. Think so to, people often talk about Naniwa regarding this stuff, but I think Sase is more prone to tilting.
Nani often gets mad, but he is better at staying calm and focusing on the game regardless of agitation. It's pretty rare that I see Nani do something really rash or poorly considered, even when he's annoyed.
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On October 09 2013 02:59 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 02:55 4ZakeN87 wrote:On October 09 2013 02:51 Squat wrote:On October 09 2013 02:46 ThomasjServo wrote:
SaSe is playing super angry, ZvP this map Slivko would be insane not to go muta to try and get him tilting harder. SaSe's temper has always been his main weakness, he is very good skill wise, but often his own worst enemy. Troll tactics can be surprisingly effective against him if you can get him to start tilting. Think so to, people often talk about Naniwa regarding this stuff, but I think Sase is more prone to tilting. Nani often gets mad, but he is better at staying calm and focusing on the game regardless of agitation. It's pretty rare that I see Nani do something really rash or poorly considered, even when he's annoyed.
Yea, seems like that to me too. Naniwa's certainly gotten better at holding it together over the years (certainly not 6 probe rushing anymore :p). Sase on the other hand seems to often fall apart unless he's playing under ideal conditions.
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On October 09 2013 03:02 orangeorange wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 02:59 Squat wrote:On October 09 2013 02:55 4ZakeN87 wrote:On October 09 2013 02:51 Squat wrote:On October 09 2013 02:46 ThomasjServo wrote:
SaSe is playing super angry, ZvP this map Slivko would be insane not to go muta to try and get him tilting harder. SaSe's temper has always been his main weakness, he is very good skill wise, but often his own worst enemy. Troll tactics can be surprisingly effective against him if you can get him to start tilting. Think so to, people often talk about Naniwa regarding this stuff, but I think Sase is more prone to tilting. Nani often gets mad, but he is better at staying calm and focusing on the game regardless of agitation. It's pretty rare that I see Nani do something really rash or poorly considered, even when he's annoyed. Yea, seems like that to me too. Naniwa's certainly gotten better at holding it together over the years (certainly not 6 probe rushing anymore :p). Sase on the other hand seems to often fall apart unless he's playing under ideal conditions.
Nani comes into series with much more of a plan, at least it appears to me. SaSe seems to play much more off the cuff, which when he lands his punches is awesome but is far less tailored that Nani's style.
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Poll: Recommend sLivko vs. TLO game 1?★★★- Good game (1) 50% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 50% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% 2 total votes Your vote: Recommend sLivko vs. TLO game 1? (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
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On October 09 2013 03:16 Shellshock wrote:Poll: Recommend sLivko vs. TLO game 1?★★★- Good game (1) 50% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 50% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% 2 total votes Your vote: Recommend sLivko vs. TLO game 1? (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
Standard ZvZ.
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1 base, 2 gas muta. The sLivko build.
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ok I'm leaving for class now so I can't update the thread for lichter anymore. gl thread. can someone at least post the polls so they can be added to the OP at some point?
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On October 09 2013 02:59 Shellshock wrote:
I've been updating the OP since lichter left but I have class soon. Does anyone want to message an admin to take over it?
i could do that.
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cool thanks. Looks like TLO pretty much has this wrapped up
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On October 09 2013 03:28 Shellshock wrote:
cool thanks. Looks like TLO pretty much has this wrapped up
should i just pm plexa?
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On October 09 2013 03:28 Paljas wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 03:28 Shellshock wrote:
cool thanks. Looks like TLO pretty much has this wrapped up should i just pm plexa?
yea plexa or any admin should be able to transfer the OP to you
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SH tech change was TLO trying to get fancy.
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On October 09 2013 03:36 Paljas wrote:
how to make star polls?
you can copy paste that stars.
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On October 09 2013 03:29 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 03:28 Paljas wrote:On October 09 2013 03:28 Shellshock wrote:
cool thanks. Looks like TLO pretty much has this wrapped up should i just pm plexa? yea plexa or any admin should be able to transfer the OP to you
I like that this is my reputation on the forum 
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Poll: Recommend sLivko vs. TLO game 2?★★★- Good game (3) 75% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 25% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% 4 total votes Your vote: Recommend sLivko vs. TLO game 2? (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
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TLO banking on the fact that sLivko never gets upgrades.
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On October 09 2013 03:39 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 03:29 Shellshock wrote:On October 09 2013 03:28 Paljas wrote:On October 09 2013 03:28 Shellshock wrote:
cool thanks. Looks like TLO pretty much has this wrapped up should i just pm plexa? yea plexa or any admin should be able to transfer the OP to you I like that this is my reputation on the forum
Job Title: Official thread ownership transferer.
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On October 09 2013 03:49 packrat386 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 03:39 Plexa wrote:On October 09 2013 03:29 Shellshock wrote:On October 09 2013 03:28 Paljas wrote:On October 09 2013 03:28 Shellshock wrote:
cool thanks. Looks like TLO pretty much has this wrapped up should i just pm plexa? yea plexa or any admin should be able to transfer the OP to you I like that this is my reputation on the forum Job Title: Official thread ownership transferer.
Substitute counter for KBB.
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Cool to hear a female caster, not listened long enough to figure out if she's any good, but thinking about it can't really understand why there haven't been more(guess just so few girls in the community).
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On October 09 2013 03:50 Zarahtra wrote:
Cool to hear a female caster, not listened long enough to figure out if she's any good, but thinking about it can't really understand why there haven't been more(guess just so few girls in the community).
ZG is a masters Terran player, she has been around the NA scene for about a year now. The first WCS tournament gave her a good leg up into the broader scene.
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That was way too close for comfort for TLO
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Slivko needs to get drops now... easy drops with lings and swarm hosts cant defend it.
Drops and Broodlords.
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ye i don't know what i have expected when i decided to turn on the stream, but seeing queens running away from locusts suprises me quite a bit
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Blinding clouds against a melee army?
On October 09 2013 03:54 Undead1993 wrote:
ye i don't know what i have expected when i decided to turn on the stream, but seeing queens running away from locusts suprises me quite a bit
TLO is in the group... just saying.
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This casting bias for TLO is ridiculous. Slivko is also playing the game here...
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Lol... abduct on Ultralisks....
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TLO is really playing with fire, 10 secs earlier and he would be in huge trouble
Looking good now for him though, Vipers pulling Ultras is so wrong >.<
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Slivko still forcing Ultras... not transitioning to Broods and drops.
He has 3k and doing nothing with it.
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sLivko needs to time the direction and spawn of the locust, I am trying to think how zerg breaks SH without broodlords or drops and and coming up with nothing.
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Or rolling banelings around a Locust wave... nice.
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Slivko is really trying to throw this hard. Finally he attacks from the side.. Jeez
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On October 09 2013 03:57 Sufinsil wrote:
Or rolling banelings around a Locust wave... nice.
occams razer in action, fifth up for sLivko gg nicely done onto watch TLO beat elfi again.
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Really wasn't sure about TLO staying on the same build
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I don't think TLO can win this now.
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slivko wooohooooo! sick banes there
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Thought TLO was going to pull it off for a minute
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Poll: Recommend sLivko vs. TLO game 3?★★★- Good game (6) 55% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (3) 27% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 9% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 9% ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% 11 total votes Your vote: Recommend sLivko vs. TLO game 3? (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
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these germans with their slow games, yesterday hasuobs today tlo turtleing :D
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On October 09 2013 03:54 Sufinsil wrote:
Lol... abduct on Ultralisks....
yeah exactly lol...... what.
i'm not sure if you are supposed to build swarm host viper...
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TLO -- stop trying to be cute, just try and win
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TLOs SH play looks like it totally counts on the fact that the enemy wont attack before you have 20 SHs and a few infestors
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On October 09 2013 04:00 BlackCompany wrote:
TLOs SH play looks like it totally counts on the fact that the enemy wont attack before you have 20 SHs and a few infestors
I don't get the abduct. Abduct is for armies that DON'T want to engage you, but the ultras just want to rush in and kill shit.
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Mass swarmhost looks like a boring zvz style. Glad it didnt work out although I like TLO!
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On October 09 2013 04:02 packrat386 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 04:00 BlackCompany wrote:
TLOs SH play looks like it totally counts on the fact that the enemy wont attack before you have 20 SHs and a few infestors I don't get the abduct. Abduct is for armies that DON'T want to engage you, but the ultras just want to rush in and kill shit.
he could have pulled the ultras away :O
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On October 09 2013 04:02 packrat386 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 04:00 BlackCompany wrote:
TLOs SH play looks like it totally counts on the fact that the enemy wont attack before you have 20 SHs and a few infestors I don't get the abduct. Abduct is for armies that DON'T want to engage you, but the ultras just want to rush in and kill shit.
maybe he wanted to abduct the overseers into his mass spores he made
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On October 09 2013 03:59 Undead1993 wrote:
these germans with their slow games, yesterday hasuobs today tlo turtleing :D
This is so totally begging for an inappropriate joke about germans overextending with aggression.
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On October 09 2013 04:04 75 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 04:02 packrat386 wrote:On October 09 2013 04:00 BlackCompany wrote:
TLOs SH play looks like it totally counts on the fact that the enemy wont attack before you have 20 SHs and a few infestors I don't get the abduct. Abduct is for armies that DON'T want to engage you, but the ultras just want to rush in and kill shit. maybe he wanted to abduct the overseers into his mass spores he made
Or abduct the ultras away? I mean TLO seemed to have that game until he failed to fungal the blings before they got to the SHs
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On October 09 2013 04:06 Zarahtra wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 04:04 75 wrote:On October 09 2013 04:02 packrat386 wrote:On October 09 2013 04:00 BlackCompany wrote:
TLOs SH play looks like it totally counts on the fact that the enemy wont attack before you have 20 SHs and a few infestors I don't get the abduct. Abduct is for armies that DON'T want to engage you, but the ultras just want to rush in and kill shit. maybe he wanted to abduct the overseers into his mass spores he made Or abduct the ultras away? I mean TLO seemed to have that game until he failed to fungal the blings before they got to the SHs
but why did tlo build spores then?
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A lone ultra onto 20 locust will die fast when abducted.
The problem was TLO did not get a 5th and thought it could just keep up with Slivko's army... Slivko had the room to waste units and wittle TLO down.
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On October 09 2013 04:06 Zarahtra wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 04:04 75 wrote:On October 09 2013 04:02 packrat386 wrote:On October 09 2013 04:00 BlackCompany wrote:
TLOs SH play looks like it totally counts on the fact that the enemy wont attack before you have 20 SHs and a few infestors I don't get the abduct. Abduct is for armies that DON'T want to engage you, but the ultras just want to rush in and kill shit. maybe he wanted to abduct the overseers into his mass spores he made Or abduct the ultras away? I mean TLO seemed to have that game until he failed to fungal the blings before they got to the SHs
Yah those banes killing the front half of his SH was pretty huge. Good move to kill a lot of SH at one time.
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hi hi, have been at work all day, what happened to sase and elfi? well I guess I can understand elfi loosing two zero to tlo, but I didn't think that slivko was good enough to 2-0 sase. Were they good games at least?
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Oh well, Elfi will likely beat SaSe and then lose 0-2 to TLO.
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Just imagine if TLO had suceeded and went on to established SHs in ZvZ ... you would see SHs vs. SHs matches... omg...
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On October 09 2013 04:02 packrat386 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 04:00 BlackCompany wrote:
TLOs SH play looks like it totally counts on the fact that the enemy wont attack before you have 20 SHs and a few infestors I don't get the abduct. Abduct is for armies that DON'T want to engage you, but the ultras just want to rush in and kill shit.
I'd say TLOs plan was to pull the ultras 1 by 1 and kill them. But if that was his plan he would have to get in a position where the ultras dont want to fight. But he stayed at home all the time.. his infestors were also too late, if he had fungeled the banes as they rushed in, he would have won the fight.
Vipers were probably not meant to pull overseers, 6 vipers for some overseers is WAY to much gas + the ultras kill the SH anyway with their splash while attacking locust on top of them
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PvP is now always archon immortal vs archon immortal, assuming you make it to mid game.
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On October 09 2013 04:10 stuchiu wrote:
PvP is now always archon immortal vs archon immortal, assuming you make it to mid game.
Elfi doesn't play immortals though he doesn't think they are worth it. Prioritizes charge first usually oh and DTs XD.
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On October 09 2013 04:08 Squat wrote:
Oh well, Elfi will likely beat SaSe and then lose 0-2 to TLO.
i predict elfi wins against sase and then elfi wins 2-1 against tlo.
that makes is to 3-2 in favor for tlo and some people start argueing about the groupsystem
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On October 09 2013 04:10 ThomasjServo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 04:10 stuchiu wrote:
PvP is now always archon immortal vs archon immortal, assuming you make it to mid game. Elfi doesn't play immortals though.
Elfi needs to handicap himself one way or he'd be banned for being a god.
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On October 09 2013 04:10 stuchiu wrote:
PvP is now always archon immortal vs archon immortal, assuming you make it to mid game.
did you watch wcs eu ro8 and so on
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On October 09 2013 04:11 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 04:10 ThomasjServo wrote:On October 09 2013 04:10 stuchiu wrote:
PvP is now always archon immortal vs archon immortal, assuming you make it to mid game. Elfi doesn't play immortals though. Elfi needs to handicap himself one way or he'd be banned for being a god.
He does it by letting you know he is going to play the same way he played late in WCS PvP on this map as well.
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On October 09 2013 04:09 BlackCompany wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 04:02 packrat386 wrote:On October 09 2013 04:00 BlackCompany wrote:
TLOs SH play looks like it totally counts on the fact that the enemy wont attack before you have 20 SHs and a few infestors I don't get the abduct. Abduct is for armies that DON'T want to engage you, but the ultras just want to rush in and kill shit. I'd say TLOs plan was to pull the ultras 1 by 1 and kill them. But if that was his plan he would have to get in a position where the ultras dont want to fight. But he stayed at home all the time.. his infestors were also too late, if he had fungeled the banes as they rushed in, he would have won the fight. Vipers were probably not meant to pull overseers, 6 vipers for some overseers is WAY to much gas + the ultras kill the SH anyway with their splash while attacking locust on top of them
i was thinking that tlo makes vipers to pull the overseers into his spores.
and when there is no detection and ultras want to escape he might have abducts left to pull them into the locusts
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Elfi being sporting, it seems.
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First blood!
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On October 09 2013 04:14 Squat wrote:First blood!
lol, not that again
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Sase's build looked so weird.
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Poll: Recommend elfi vs. Sase game 1?★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2) 100% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (0) 0% ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% 2 total votes Your vote: Recommend elfi vs. Sase game 1? (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
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On October 09 2013 04:15 Heartland wrote:
Sase's build looked so weird.
It really was, elfi responded as a normal toss would/should 9/10 times.
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On October 09 2013 04:13 75 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 04:09 BlackCompany wrote:On October 09 2013 04:02 packrat386 wrote:On October 09 2013 04:00 BlackCompany wrote:
TLOs SH play looks like it totally counts on the fact that the enemy wont attack before you have 20 SHs and a few infestors I don't get the abduct. Abduct is for armies that DON'T want to engage you, but the ultras just want to rush in and kill shit. I'd say TLOs plan was to pull the ultras 1 by 1 and kill them. But if that was his plan he would have to get in a position where the ultras dont want to fight. But he stayed at home all the time.. his infestors were also too late, if he had fungeled the banes as they rushed in, he would have won the fight. Vipers were probably not meant to pull overseers, 6 vipers for some overseers is WAY to much gas + the ultras kill the SH anyway with their splash while attacking locust on top of them i was thinking that tlo makes vipers to pull the overseers into his spores. and when there is no detection and ultras want to escape he might have abducts left to pull them into the locusts
Well, then i'd say that the plan wasnt that good. Of course it works on paper but in the battles you could see that the SH were taking a lot of damage from the splash from the ultras. And you cant kill all the overseers before the banes roll in and kill have of them
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On October 09 2013 04:10 ThomasjServo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 04:10 stuchiu wrote:
PvP is now always archon immortal vs archon immortal, assuming you make it to mid game. Elfi doesn't play immortals though he doesn't think they are worth it. Prioritizes charge first usually oh and DTs XD.
Immoratls are here. Plz patch Elfi.
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The dt also forces the msc home so sase can't use the timewarp.
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Immortals kick the shit ouf of archons. With that pylon wall, it'll be very hard to break.
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Live by the Dark Templar, die by the Dark Templar
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On October 09 2013 04:22 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 04:10 ThomasjServo wrote:On October 09 2013 04:10 stuchiu wrote:
PvP is now always archon immortal vs archon immortal, assuming you make it to mid game. Elfi doesn't play immortals though he doesn't think they are worth it. Prioritizes charge first usually oh and DTs XD. Immoratls are here. Plz patch Elfi.
:o No charge yet either? Everything I know is a lie.,
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DT robo is Parting's build and one of the most stable solid builds in the matchup.
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Poll: Recommend elfi vs. Sase game 2?★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3) 100% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (0) 0% ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% 3 total votes Your vote: Recommend elfi vs. Sase game 2? (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
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On October 09 2013 04:25 stuchiu wrote:
DT robo is Parting's build and one of the most stable solid builds in the matchup.
Another member of the pantheon of PvP gods.
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On October 09 2013 04:25 Squat wrote:Elfi gets back on track, solid defense. + Show Spoiler +
You're taking the edge out of your BM pictures by posting pictures for the other team as well.
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On October 09 2013 04:25 ThomasjServo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 04:25 stuchiu wrote:
DT robo is Parting's build and one of the most stable solid builds in the matchup. Another member of the pantheon of PvP gods.
No matter how volatile PvP was, there was always 1-3 protosses that were around 70-90% winrate at any given time.
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Time for elfi to go nex first
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On October 09 2013 04:26 Heartland wrote:You're taking the edge out of your BM pictures by posting pictures for the other team as well.
My honour as a gentleman demands it. Also, we must show appropriate compassion for the people of the colonies.
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Needs to know where to put that proxy stargate dark shrine down.
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Can you spolier that or something.
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saaaaaaaase googogogoogog
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Immortals are better than archons, I favor elfi.
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Is that common in PvP at the moment? You go DTs and if they dont do damage you go more DTs?
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On October 09 2013 04:34 BlackCompany wrote:
Is that common in PvP at the moment? You go DTs and if they dont do damage you go more DTs?
Yes, its called the Inca mindgame.
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On October 09 2013 04:34 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 04:34 BlackCompany wrote:
Is that common in PvP at the moment? You go DTs and if they dont do damage you go more DTs? Yes, its called the Inca mindgame.
I thought that was Incas entire gameplan and not only the midgame
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Typical elfi decision making. That warp prism can win this game.
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What do you call a mexican standoff between a Swede and a Finnish person? This isn't the start of a joke, I am legitimately curious.
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On October 09 2013 04:34 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 04:34 BlackCompany wrote:
Is that common in PvP at the moment? You go DTs and if they dont do damage you go more DTs? Yes, its called the Inca mindgame.
wtf? -_-
The God knows how to play PvP
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On October 09 2013 04:35 BlackCompany wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 04:34 stuchiu wrote:On October 09 2013 04:34 BlackCompany wrote:
Is that common in PvP at the moment? You go DTs and if they dont do damage you go more DTs? Yes, its called the Inca mindgame. I thought that was Incas entire gameplan and not only the midgame
The gameplan encompasses the earlygame, midgame and lategame. To know Inca is to know the dt.
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On October 09 2013 04:35 ThomasjServo wrote:
What do you call a mexican standoff between a Swede and a Finnish person? This isn't the start of a joke, I am legitimately curious.
Saturday night in Rågsved
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On October 09 2013 04:36 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 04:34 stuchiu wrote:On October 09 2013 04:34 BlackCompany wrote:
Is that common in PvP at the moment? You go DTs and if they dont do damage you go more DTs? Yes, its called the Inca mindgame. wtf? -_- The God knows how to play PvP
Inca did have a 96% winrate in PvP.
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On October 09 2013 04:35 BlackCompany wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 04:34 stuchiu wrote:On October 09 2013 04:34 BlackCompany wrote:
Is that common in PvP at the moment? You go DTs and if they dont do damage you go more DTs? Yes, its called the Inca mindgame. I thought that was Incas entire gameplan and not only the midgame
yes, InCa mindgame, ie all game, not InCa mid game
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Sase just has this quality that he shares with Naniwa, an utter hatred of expanding when he can build his army.
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On October 09 2013 04:36 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 04:36 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On October 09 2013 04:34 stuchiu wrote:On October 09 2013 04:34 BlackCompany wrote:
Is that common in PvP at the moment? You go DTs and if they dont do damage you go more DTs? Yes, its called the Inca mindgame. wtf? -_- The God knows how to play PvP Inca did have a 96% winrate in PvP.
Inca did have a 95% winrate in every match up.
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On October 09 2013 04:36 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 04:35 BlackCompany wrote:On October 09 2013 04:34 stuchiu wrote:On October 09 2013 04:34 BlackCompany wrote:
Is that common in PvP at the moment? You go DTs and if they dont do damage you go more DTs? Yes, its called the Inca mindgame. I thought that was Incas entire gameplan and not only the midgame The gameplan encompasses the earlygame, midgame and lategame. To know Inca is to know the dt.
Oh i read midgame, not mindgame, my bad!
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On October 09 2013 04:37 Paljas wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 04:36 stuchiu wrote:On October 09 2013 04:36 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On October 09 2013 04:34 stuchiu wrote:On October 09 2013 04:34 BlackCompany wrote:
Is that common in PvP at the moment? You go DTs and if they dont do damage you go more DTs? Yes, its called the Inca mindgame. wtf? -_- The God knows how to play PvP Inca did have a 96% winrate in PvP. Inca did have a 95% winrate in every match up.
Plz nerf dts.
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On October 09 2013 04:36 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 04:35 ThomasjServo wrote:
What do you call a mexican standoff between a Swede and a Finnish person? This isn't the start of a joke, I am legitimately curious. Saturday night in Rågsved
Context please?
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Okay, thats game. No economy, no army, no chance.
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Sase decides to let his army die, then recall the last 2 Zealots. brilliant
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u just cant win against elfi in a 20 minute 1base vs 1base game
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SaSe? WHO?
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On October 09 2013 04:38 ThomasjServo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 04:36 Heartland wrote:On October 09 2013 04:35 ThomasjServo wrote:
What do you call a mexican standoff between a Swede and a Finnish person? This isn't the start of a joke, I am legitimately curious. Saturday night in Rågsved Context please?
It's a working class neighbourhood in Stockholm with a large finnish population. So the joke would be that every saturday night there is a row. I am sure there's not, but hopefully someone got a cheap laugh out of it.
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was sase afk during the last 10 minutes?
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Poll: Recommend elfi vs. Sase game 3?★★★★★- One of the best games this season (7) 100% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend elfi vs. Sase game 3? (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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(Vote): ★★★- Good game
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Elfi's PvP too g00d
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On October 09 2013 04:40 Paljas wrote:
was sase afk during the last 10 minutes?
I was wondering too, basicly while Elfi got +2, colossus tech and 2 colossi out, Sase didnt do anything but building stlakers and zealots..
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#elfiisgod
WHERE IS WAXANGEL? You are missing God's playing
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On October 09 2013 04:39 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 04:38 ThomasjServo wrote:On October 09 2013 04:36 Heartland wrote:On October 09 2013 04:35 ThomasjServo wrote:
What do you call a mexican standoff between a Swede and a Finnish person? This isn't the start of a joke, I am legitimately curious. Saturday night in Rågsved Context please? It's a working class neighbourhood in Stockholm with a large finnish population. So the joke would be that every saturday night there is a row. I am sure there's not, but hopefully someone got a cheap laugh out of it.
That is what I thought from the wiki article, I appreciate the effort if it is any consolation :p
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He saw the warp prism also. should have had a nexus going and defend it... once Elfi moves delay and recall.
Instead he lost most of his probes, expanded late and never changed tech. Oh and ran all his units into the death ramp for no reason.
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Elfi just has the perfect skillset fot pvp!
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On October 09 2013 04:43 Sufinsil wrote:
He saw the warp prism also. should have had a nexus going and defend it... once Elfi moves delay and recall.
Instead he lost most of his probes, expanded late and never changed tech. Oh and ran all his units into the death ramp for no reason.
Kind of a band aid solution even if the MSC was there, and elfi then knows that he won't have a recall. Elfi gains everything with that.
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Time for WCS Kr for SaSe now, hopefully he can qualify some season next year (I dont think he is very bothered since he hated playing in the EU region)
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Those oracles are so good in these fights. Really underused unit against Zerg.
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TLO needs to focus the oracles, they shred hydras if you dont kill them first
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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Poll: Recommend TLO vs. elfi game 1?★★★- Good game (3) 100% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% 3 total votes Your vote: Recommend TLO vs. elfi game 1? (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
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On October 09 2013 04:56 ThePlagueJG wrote:Time for WCS Kr for SaSe now, hopefully he can qualify some season next year (I dont think he is very bothered since he hated playing in the EU region)
If a region lock comes-in he may not even be allowed to try.
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On October 09 2013 05:03 pmp10 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 04:56 ThePlagueJG wrote:Time for WCS Kr for SaSe now, hopefully he can qualify some season next year (I dont think he is very bothered since he hated playing in the EU region) If a region lock comes-in he may not even be allowed to try.
I though SaSe lives in korea?
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
You can still cannon a pool first. Assuming Elfi saw a Hero game once in his life on Akilon.
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On October 09 2013 05:03 pmp10 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 04:56 ThePlagueJG wrote:Time for WCS Kr for SaSe now, hopefully he can qualify some season next year (I dont think he is very bothered since he hated playing in the EU region) If a region lock comes-in he may not even be allowed to try.
Not going to put anything past Blizzard at this point but it seems unreasonable to expect all those not living in one of the three regions to have to move to a region to play. I kinda expect that anyone not living in AM/KR/EU will get to choose a region to play in that makes sense for them.
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On October 09 2013 05:07 Heartland wrote:
That wall..
baneling bust pls
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On October 09 2013 05:04 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 05:03 pmp10 wrote:On October 09 2013 04:56 ThePlagueJG wrote:Time for WCS Kr for SaSe now, hopefully he can qualify some season next year (I dont think he is very bothered since he hated playing in the EU region) If a region lock comes-in he may not even be allowed to try. I though SaSe lives in korea?
I think he lives in Taiwan.
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On October 09 2013 05:16 Heartland wrote:
What's Elfi's plan?
Probably dieing to TLOs remax on ultra ling
That baneling play better work, that was a ton of ressources
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That was awesome
suddenly: BANELINGS FROM EVERYWHERE :D
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btw, do the winners of the group advance to premier?
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Poll: Recommend TLO vs. elfi game 2?★★★- Good game (2) 67% ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1) 33% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% 3 total votes Your vote: Recommend TLO vs. elfi game 2? (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend TLO vs. elfi game 3?★★★- Good game (3) 100% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% 3 total votes Your vote: Recommend TLO vs. elfi game 3? (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
WCS points don't matter anymore.
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On October 09 2013 05:18 Paljas wrote:
btw, do the winners of the group advance to premier?
Probably not, there's been talk about that you get difference seeds in a premier qualifier depending where you end up in this challenger.
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Poor elfi. Not his day today.
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Thats how my PvZ go. Zerg have mutas so I cant never move out. Not even to take 4th.
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On October 09 2013 05:18 Paljas wrote:
btw, do the winners of the group advance to premier?
no, it seems that they get a good seeding for some qualifiers
+ Show Spoiler +
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On October 09 2013 05:22 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Thats how my PvZ go. Zerg have mutas so I cant never move out. Not even to take 4th.
Bring MSC to recall or open phoenix, well they might go mutas later on anyways. I almost never face mutas though but that might just be on my level.
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On October 09 2013 05:04 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 05:03 pmp10 wrote:On October 09 2013 04:56 ThePlagueJG wrote:Time for WCS Kr for SaSe now, hopefully he can qualify some season next year (I dont think he is very bothered since he hated playing in the EU region) If a region lock comes-in he may not even be allowed to try. I though SaSe lives in korea?
SaSe and Harstem are living in Taiwan at the moment.
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SaSe
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United States97276 Posts
Thanks for finishing up the thread, Paljas.
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Why does it say "X and X win the group, but dont get anything from this!" at the bottom? Don't they both get back into Premier?
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United States97276 Posts
cause we arent sure how challenger and premier are working next season
It might be confirmed (not sure) but I know it was at least rumored by the players that there wouldnt be seeds into premier from these challenger groups
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