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On September 29 2013 16:58 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2013 16:55 Lunareste wrote:
I thought T was supposed to have an advantage in base trades? Nope, it's just a cliché without substance that people keep repeating for some reason. They think lifting buildings is the ultimate thing in that kind of situation, while it's not always useful; meanwhile, the vulnerability of having a centralized and slow production is always there.
To be fair I don't think T is strong because of flying buildings but because of high DPS armies in speedivacs.
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On September 29 2013 16:57 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2013 16:55 Lunareste wrote:
I thought T was supposed to have an advantage in base trades?
I feel like everything I've ever known was a lie. Parting dealt with the base trade better than Flash. His units were just better prepared for that situation. Multiple strray observors, a 3rd cannoned andwith HTS. Blink stalkers and dts roaming the map and he focused down all of the scans.
What you wrote simply means Protoss has better tools for base trades...
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On September 29 2013 17:00 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2013 16:58 Shellshock wrote:On September 29 2013 16:58 Dodgin wrote:On September 29 2013 16:57 NovaMB wrote:
Congrats soO for making the ro4 of WCS KR. clearly you don't know the purpose of SKT zergs in individual leagues soOjwa transcends all known purpose soOjwa? Is this some kind of meta joke to fuse terrible players' names with bonjwa?
Its only for the soOjwa, because he is the one and only true soOjwa
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On September 29 2013 16:58 sudete wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2013 16:56 shockaslim wrote:
I am convinced that there is something with that map where Protoss just wins. Maru was outplaying PartinG on that map before and then he just bam lost. You mean the 5 minutes when he was sitting back while Parting got his 3rd and 4th, then dying to DTs because of no defence at home? I believe it's not completely "Protoss just wins". Then again, I might be wrong..
Getting his 3rd and 4th after Maru killed the 3rd twice you mean? Then was able to just hang out in the center of the map and keep Maru in check because his army is big enough to do so?
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On September 29 2013 17:00 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2013 16:58 Shellshock wrote:On September 29 2013 16:58 Dodgin wrote:On September 29 2013 16:57 NovaMB wrote:
Congrats soO for making the ro4 of WCS KR. clearly you don't know the purpose of SKT zergs in individual leagues soOjwa transcends all known purpose soOjwa? Is this some kind of meta joke to fuse terrible players' names with bonjwa?
The only true -jwa is the ByuNjwa
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On September 29 2013 17:00 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2013 16:58 Shellshock wrote:On September 29 2013 16:58 Dodgin wrote:On September 29 2013 16:57 NovaMB wrote:
Congrats soO for making the ro4 of WCS KR. clearly you don't know the purpose of SKT zergs in individual leagues soOjwa transcends all known purpose soOjwa? Is this some kind of meta joke to fuse terrible players' names with bonjwa?
B-but he's in the ro8! He can't be terrible, can he?
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on the bright side, if Flash finishes 2nd that'd actually be what I'd prefer... if he can win the last series of course. would much rather Flash play jjakji than soO in the ro8... pls pls advance :/
GJ PARTING have fun with the teamkill next round 
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On September 29 2013 16:59 tozi wrote:
honestly tvp protoss has the advantage in base race with cannons, templar, and dts, all verrry cost efficient in base rase scenarios.
ghosts use energy on templar, army forces ccs to lift, warp mass dts slowly -> gg
Don't forget, hts and dts almost come for free.
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i missed TvZ mech?? god damn
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On September 29 2013 16:56 -RusH wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2013 16:52 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
PartinG now on a collision course for his dreaded enemy Soulkey Parting gets destroyed by soulkey any day. IMO
Like it's subjective! :D
Facts are, Parting is 2-7 against Soulkey in Hots.
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On September 29 2013 16:59 tozi wrote:
honestly tvp protoss has the advantage in base race with cannons, templar, and dts, all verrry cost efficient in base rase scenarios.
ghosts use energy on templar, army forces ccs to lift, warp mass dts slowly -> gg
yep toss has the advantage .. but its not unwinnable .. although really good terran players stand out when they win a very long game vs very good toss
just look at taeja vs rain .. rain played perfectly .. but when taeja also played perfectly .. terran looked really imbalanced that time even though it isnt
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United States97276 Posts
On September 29 2013 17:00 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2013 16:58 Shellshock wrote:On September 29 2013 16:58 Dodgin wrote:On September 29 2013 16:57 NovaMB wrote:
Congrats soO for making the ro4 of WCS KR. clearly you don't know the purpose of SKT zergs in individual leagues soOjwa transcends all known purpose soOjwa? Is this some kind of meta joke to fuse terrible players' names with bonjwa?
But what if he's... the next zerg bonjwa
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That is not the Flash of SC1. His play still seems so unrefined. Strong, but not quite where it should be.
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On September 29 2013 17:00 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2013 16:57 stuchiu wrote:On September 29 2013 16:55 Lunareste wrote:
I thought T was supposed to have an advantage in base trades?
I feel like everything I've ever known was a lie. Parting dealt with the base trade better than Flash. His units were just better prepared for that situation. Multiple strray observors, a 3rd cannoned andwith HTS. Blink stalkers and dts roaming the map and he focused down all of the scans. What you wrote simply means Protoss has better tools for base trades...
oh shut up according to you every race has everything better than terran's equivalent. Flash never had planetary walls set up to begin with.
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On September 29 2013 17:01 neptunusfisk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2013 16:56 -RusH wrote:On September 29 2013 16:52 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
PartinG now on a collision course for his dreaded enemy Soulkey Parting gets destroyed by soulkey any day. IMO Like it's subjective! :D Facts are, Parting is 2-7 against Soulkey in Hots.
In these games, PartinG is 26–30 (46.43%) in games and 9–14 (39.13%) in matches.
Hots stats for PartingvZ
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Poll: Who will win?Maru (11) 55% KangHo (9) 45% 20 total votes Your vote: Who will win? (Vote): Maru
(Vote): KangHo
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And this is why you don't go macro vs Protoss ladies and gentlemen. Protoss blob too strong, can't be killed.
User was temp banned for this post.
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On September 29 2013 16:55 Lunareste wrote:
I thought T was supposed to have an advantage in base trades?
I feel like everything I've ever known was a lie.
If a game trade happens at 11-15 minutes into the game than yes, the P doesn't have a stargate, doesn't have DTs and so on.
As the game goes on this advantage diminishes.
Also, I'm kind of sick of people calling "throws" and "overextensions" whenever a P makes a come back in PvT. This is what they do all throught the SC2 - they come back from a disadvantege. It only takes a couple of seconds to land good storms, set up a runby or a nasty WP harassment and regain momentum.
And this is what these guys were trying to do all game long, consistently looking for opportunities, finding and exploiting them. Flash did not snipe the tech of his opponent when he had the chance and it came back to bite him.
This was a great game overall and the "throw calls" are bad and disgusting as always.
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On September 29 2013 17:01 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2013 16:59 tozi wrote:
honestly tvp protoss has the advantage in base race with cannons, templar, and dts, all verrry cost efficient in base rase scenarios.
ghosts use energy on templar, army forces ccs to lift, warp mass dts slowly -> gg yep toss has the advantage .. but its not unwinnable .. although really good terran players stand out when they win a very long game vs very good toss just look at taeja vs rain .. rain played perfectly .. but when taeja also played perfectly .. terran looked really imbalanced that time even though it isnt
Wut? He made horrible blunders at the beginning of midgame in the Whirlwind game.
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On September 29 2013 17:00 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2013 16:58 TheDwf wrote:On September 29 2013 16:55 Lunareste wrote:
I thought T was supposed to have an advantage in base trades? Nope, it's just a cliché without substance that people keep repeating for some reason. They think lifting buildings is the ultimate thing in that kind of situation, while it's not always useful; meanwhile, the vulnerability of having a centralized and slow production is always there. To be fair I don't think T is strong because of flying buildings but because of high DPS armies in speedivacs.
Those are nice and all but when you can sprinkle the map with invisible units and powerful spellcasters against a race whose detection abilities are quickly reduced to zero in a base race, you find yourself in a pretty nice situation.
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