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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 27 2013 11:14 GMT
#721
On September 27 2013 20:13 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 20:13 Dodgin wrote:
I'm rooting for soo to lose his next series

he'll lose one of the next two. gatekeepers don't belong in the ro8. that freak season with curious...

He tried to break rules and paid the price.
Glorious SEA doto
robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
September 27 2013 11:15 GMT
#722
On September 27 2013 20:13 robson1 wrote:
Winners Match
MyInsanityjjakji vs. Acer.Innovation 0:1
Map: Whirlwind

jjakji starting in the upper right position
innovation starting in the upper left position

Both players are opting for a gas first at 12 supply, into 13 rax
Both players mirroring each other, both building a factory right away


4 minutes
After factory both players get a second gas
Innovation get's a full scout, while jjakji does not.

5 minutes
Jjakji opting for a 2 mine, marine drop
Innovation going for cloaked banshee
Neither player has a CC down yet.
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
September 27 2013 11:15 GMT
#723
"I havent seen that one" haha
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24584 Posts
September 27 2013 11:15 GMT
#724
On September 27 2013 20:09 felisconcolori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 20:08 Heartland wrote:
On September 27 2013 20:04 Squat wrote:
On September 27 2013 20:02 Kasaraki wrote:
Innovation wearing a cape. He's trying to dress like a human. :o But obviously not doing it quite right.


His random exclamations of "I need blood!" is kind of giving him away too. Also dispersing into a cloud of bats may seem a bit odd. Time for some camarilla justice I say.


Haha, was that a Vampire: the Masquerade joke?


Don't make me find you and get Lasangrakavian on you.


I... I don't know what that is.
Conut
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1026 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 11:16:44
September 27 2013 11:15 GMT
#725
On September 27 2013 20:07 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 20:01 Conut wrote:
On September 27 2013 19:57 DJHelium wrote:
On September 27 2013 19:55 Conut wrote:
On September 27 2013 19:53 samurai80 wrote:
On September 27 2013 19:52 felisconcolori wrote:
On September 27 2013 19:51 samurai80 wrote:
On September 27 2013 19:49 TheDwf wrote:
On September 27 2013 19:48 samurai80 wrote:
On September 27 2013 19:46 graNite wrote:
[quote]
I think jjakjji is too marine heavy. marines are really bad vs ultras

Yeah, Jjakji building marines/mines vs Ultras is bad, as well soO should make some infestors instead of additional mutas imo.

What they are doing is perfectly fine. You should not comment on a match-up you don't know.

You should not comment my comments.


Umm. Commenting comments is kindof what a forum is built on. Just saying.

Without that, we're all just shouting messages down a wind tunnel thinking that maybe people heard us, without any feedback or knowing that what we're shouting is complete and utter BS.

I know but this guy is really sticking on my posts a bit too much.

plus you were actually right in that situation,
he really shouldn't have tried to get muta's and ultras once his muta ball was reduced to 9 he should have just kept that small muta count for drops and made infestors to help in the big engages.


Why? Do you have any pro replay/VoD of that being an effective strategy?


Are you really going to say that trying to remake a muta ball and an ultralisk based army is the right thing to do in low econ? You are calling people out on how much they know in the matchup but i am getting a vibe you really don't know that much from a zerg standpoint, he had ZERO chance to make another muta ball and actually have good fights, and saying anything other then that is just ludicrous.


I do believe that mutas are stronger than infestors in that situation, yes. And I'm just asking for a reason to switch into infestor over mutalisks at that point, since almost every pro game I see they keep making mutalisks.

I'm gladly proven wrong!


Well in that game, it would have been better to have 5-6 infestors then it was to have 9 extra mutalisks in the fight, If you can get a solid army of like 30 muta's with ultras and ling/bane i think its WAY better then and infestor based army, but in THAT GAME he did not have the economy to make that muta ball while getting the ultras. The infestors can really lock down that army and the banes can actually connect. When you are trying to make a comeback don't do it the way you can't afford

He already had those 9 mutas, thats all you need for drops with a group of lings, just don't use them in the fights. The infestors add so much more depth in a large fight then mutas do, and that should have been the whole goal of SoO that game.
Sc2 always got your back
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
September 27 2013 11:15 GMT
#726
Tasteless going deeper and deeper, lol.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
September 27 2013 11:15 GMT
#727
HAHA DODGED THE MINE
jjakji fan
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 27 2013 11:15 GMT
#728
On September 27 2013 20:14 Scarecrow wrote:
how can he not have watched bond movies??


He only has so much time in his life, man.
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 11:16:07
September 27 2013 11:15 GMT
#729
Fucking el-oh-el
Hello
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
September 27 2013 11:15 GMT
#730
If he doesn't know "shaken not stirred", maybe he's just clueless in general and not just about SC2. He's a casting idiot savant.
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
September 27 2013 11:16 GMT
#731
Now that's what I call a punch. Holy shit that mine hurt.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 27 2013 11:16 GMT
#732
On September 27 2013 20:15 Kasaraki wrote:
If he doesn't know "shaken not stirred", maybe he's just clueless in general and not just about SC2. He's a casting idiot savant.

He lost his passion for James Bond
Glorious SEA doto
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
September 27 2013 11:16 GMT
#733
the minimap looks pretty cool atm ^^
robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
September 27 2013 11:17 GMT
#734
On September 27 2013 20:15 robson1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 20:13 robson1 wrote:
Winners Match
MyInsanityjjakji vs. Acer.Innovation 0:1
Map: Whirlwind

jjakji starting in the upper right position
innovation starting in the upper left position

Both players are opting for a gas first at 12 supply, into 13 rax
Both players mirroring each other, both building a factory right away


4 minutes
After factory both players get a second gas
Innovation get's a full scout, while jjakji does not.

5 minutes
Jjakji opting for a 2 mine, marine drop
Innovation going for cloaked banshee
Neither player has a CC down yet.


6:30
jjakji dodges a widow mine by innovation
His drop kills 10 scvs by innovation

8:00
Innovations banshee gets 6 kills before turret and viking get up for jjajkji
17 ScVs for Innovation, 22 for Jjajki
Both players now building a CC
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
September 27 2013 11:17 GMT
#735
On September 27 2013 20:15 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 20:09 felisconcolori wrote:
On September 27 2013 20:08 Heartland wrote:
On September 27 2013 20:04 Squat wrote:
On September 27 2013 20:02 Kasaraki wrote:
Innovation wearing a cape. He's trying to dress like a human. :o But obviously not doing it quite right.


His random exclamations of "I need blood!" is kind of giving him away too. Also dispersing into a cloud of bats may seem a bit odd. Time for some camarilla justice I say.


Haha, was that a Vampire: the Masquerade joke?


Don't make me find you and get Lasangrakavian on you.


I... I don't know what that is.


That's what happens when an insane shadow wielding bad ass with claws shows up. (Hint - it's an amalgam of three clan names. From VtM.)
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
NPF
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1635 Posts
September 27 2013 11:17 GMT
#736
For just clarity sake Canada just passed over 35 million. Source

I really hope Jjakji wins
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
September 27 2013 11:17 GMT
#737
On September 27 2013 20:17 NPF wrote:
For just clarity sake Canada just passed over 35 million. Source

I really hope Jjakji wins

Congratulations!
jjakji fan
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
September 27 2013 11:18 GMT
#738
On September 27 2013 20:15 Conut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 20:07 DJHelium wrote:
On September 27 2013 20:01 Conut wrote:
On September 27 2013 19:57 DJHelium wrote:
On September 27 2013 19:55 Conut wrote:
On September 27 2013 19:53 samurai80 wrote:
On September 27 2013 19:52 felisconcolori wrote:
On September 27 2013 19:51 samurai80 wrote:
On September 27 2013 19:49 TheDwf wrote:
On September 27 2013 19:48 samurai80 wrote:
[quote]
Yeah, Jjakji building marines/mines vs Ultras is bad, as well soO should make some infestors instead of additional mutas imo.

What they are doing is perfectly fine. You should not comment on a match-up you don't know.

You should not comment my comments.


Umm. Commenting comments is kindof what a forum is built on. Just saying.

Without that, we're all just shouting messages down a wind tunnel thinking that maybe people heard us, without any feedback or knowing that what we're shouting is complete and utter BS.

I know but this guy is really sticking on my posts a bit too much.

plus you were actually right in that situation,
he really shouldn't have tried to get muta's and ultras once his muta ball was reduced to 9 he should have just kept that small muta count for drops and made infestors to help in the big engages.


Why? Do you have any pro replay/VoD of that being an effective strategy?


Are you really going to say that trying to remake a muta ball and an ultralisk based army is the right thing to do in low econ? You are calling people out on how much they know in the matchup but i am getting a vibe you really don't know that much from a zerg standpoint, he had ZERO chance to make another muta ball and actually have good fights, and saying anything other then that is just ludicrous.


I do believe that mutas are stronger than infestors in that situation, yes. And I'm just asking for a reason to switch into infestor over mutalisks at that point, since almost every pro game I see they keep making mutalisks.

I'm gladly proven wrong!


Well in that game, it would have been better to have 5-6 infestors then it was to have 9 extra mutalisks in the fight, If you can get a solid army of like 30 muta's with ultras and ling/bane i think its WAY better then and infestor based army, but in THAT GAME he did not have the economy to make that muta ball while getting the ultras. The infestors can really lock down that army and the banes can actually connect. When you are trying to make a comeback don't do it the way you can't afford

He already had those 9 mutas, thats all you need for drops with a group of lings, just don't use them in the fights. The infestors add so much more depth in a large fight then mutas do, and that should have been the whole goal of SoO that game.


We agree to disagree then! I don't think infestors would've done that much. They are slow and easy to counter imo.

No need to clutter the LR thread anymore, let's cheer for the greatest GSL champion of all time instead!
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
September 27 2013 11:18 GMT
#739
On September 27 2013 20:15 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 20:09 felisconcolori wrote:
On September 27 2013 20:08 Heartland wrote:
On September 27 2013 20:04 Squat wrote:
On September 27 2013 20:02 Kasaraki wrote:
Innovation wearing a cape. He's trying to dress like a human. :o But obviously not doing it quite right.


His random exclamations of "I need blood!" is kind of giving him away too. Also dispersing into a cloud of bats may seem a bit odd. Time for some camarilla justice I say.


Haha, was that a Vampire: the Masquerade joke?


Don't make me find you and get Lasangrakavian on you.


I... I don't know what that is.


All the more reason to fear it. I think it may be a hybrid between a malkavian and lasagne.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24584 Posts
September 27 2013 11:18 GMT
#740
On September 27 2013 20:17 felisconcolori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 20:15 Heartland wrote:
On September 27 2013 20:09 felisconcolori wrote:
On September 27 2013 20:08 Heartland wrote:
On September 27 2013 20:04 Squat wrote:
On September 27 2013 20:02 Kasaraki wrote:
Innovation wearing a cape. He's trying to dress like a human. :o But obviously not doing it quite right.


His random exclamations of "I need blood!" is kind of giving him away too. Also dispersing into a cloud of bats may seem a bit odd. Time for some camarilla justice I say.


Haha, was that a Vampire: the Masquerade joke?


Don't make me find you and get Lasangrakavian on you.


I... I don't know what that is.


That's what happens when an insane shadow wielding bad ass with claws shows up. (Hint - it's an amalgam of three clan names. From VtM.)


Ah, of course. Well, I'm a True Brujah, so it's fine.
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