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Relaaja

Finland193 Posts

September 15 2013 21:16 GMT

#5361

On September 16 2013 06:14 phil.ipp wrote:
lol half the stadium is empty .. thats akward

Its only Dreamhacks fault to start game past midnight local time. it fucking MONDAY already.

DueSs

United States765 Posts

September 15 2013 21:16 GMT

#5362

On September 16 2013 06:16 SixStrings wrote:
Call me a racist, but Asians have the nicest hair...

Why would that be racist????

TheRabidDeer

United States3806 Posts

September 15 2013 21:16 GMT

#5363

In other news, go Innovation! It is odd, but I consider inno the underdog here.

gape.ninja

Japan249 Posts

September 15 2013 21:16 GMT

#5364

Logged onto SC2 and there's nothing on the client saying anything about DH, why :<

Noonius

Estonia17413 Posts

September 15 2013 21:16 GMT

#5365

wth did Day9 do after asking TaeJa the first question?

Caladan

Germany1238 Posts

September 15 2013 21:17 GMT

#5366

Day9 actually looks like he's a bit nervous...
Decent intro, but I think Redeye is the better host. Still like Day9 as a streamer/caster though!

Also I dont understand why DH is not Friday/Saturday.

stuchiu

Fiddler's Green42661 Posts

September 15 2013 21:17 GMT

#5367

On September 16 2013 06:16 DueSs wrote:

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Why would that be racist????

He went to the same school as Incontrol, where anything that can be misconstrued as racist must be prefaced.

NarutO

Germany18839 Posts

September 15 2013 21:17 GMT

#5368

On September 16 2013 06:13 pylonsalad wrote:

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On September 16 2013 06:03 NarutO wrote:

On September 16 2013 05:59 pylonsalad wrote:

On September 16 2013 05:53 NarutO wrote:

On September 16 2013 05:51 pylonsalad wrote:

On September 16 2013 05:36 Mohdoo wrote:
As someone who had been away from the scene for a long time, but chose to watch DH, I've gotta say: Widow mines really ruin TvZ. I'm a Protoss player and always enjoyed TvZ, but its just not the same anymore. Plain and simply bad for the game.

Everyone has been saying this since forever, including many terran players. The only ones still in denial are the biased terrans who want to enjoy an easy match-up.

In regards to the DRG vs Innovation games, what we saw was the very best that any zerg performed mechanically, probably in the history of SC2, against Innovation on an off-day.

So hyvaa did as well? The only ones still crying are the ones that are mechanically not capable. DRG even said himself that control decides who wins / the outcome of TvZ. Serrel went nearly toe to toe with Supernova (mid GM EU vs Code S) and yet people still balance whine. Its a shame really. You realize what the correct answer should be instead of your bullshit?

"The Zergs enjoyed broodlord infestor freewins so much and their insane domination, that they forgot what it is to earn wins" . No one likes biomine, no Zergs nor Terrans, but as long as there are no viable options for Terrans, it will be played

How about imbalances should be fixed instead of calling everyone who addressed the situation a balance whiner. You gonna call MC a balance whiner even though he doesn't even play the matchup? Addressing and fixing balance issues helps the game. Before the hellbat was nerfed there were quite a few terrans who kept insisting: Hellbats are not the problem, if you can't defend against a hellbat drop then you just suck.

We see more Zergs play well against biomine and adapt. Why didn't MC adress the current Protoss vs Terran state in any way? Don't you believe if even DRG states that its about mechanical skill and control that it might be nothing to balance whine about?

Besides that I already pointed out and wrote a huge explanation that those TvZ statistics are hugely pushed by INnoVation and Flash (I think together they have over 50 wins) which is huge, because those seem to be simply outstanding in the match up. (don't know what Flash is about right now... really fell down this Dreamhack) Anyways.

We saw DRG beat INnoVation and even his loss looked good. We saw hyvaa to toe to toe with INnovation in an amazing game. Serral vs SuperNoVa. There are quiet a few examples. We saw YuGiOh making it out of his 3 Terran group. It is simple balance whine.

If DRG can win against the most mechanically sound player with INnoVation I am pretty sure other Zergs can step up their game and do so as well against lower-tier Terrans. We saw Life beat down SuperNova as well this Dreamhack, yet Zergs QQ.

I believe DRG said its about control because that's the only element Z can control in the matchup. The optimal compositions have been figured out and muta/bling loses to 4M consistently if both players are the same skill level. DRG had the best performance of his life that day, and Innovation had a below average performance. If DRG can beat Innovation at the same rate that Innovation beats Soulkey then I gladly admit I'm full of shit. One series does not reverse a year-long trend.

Serral / SuperNoVa
hyvaa / INnoVation

What about those?

Scarlett/Bomber

You fail to realize that INnoVation is worlds above other Terrans in TvZ. I even made a write up and there are not even 10 Terrans with 60% Winrate in TvZ, so its complete and utter bullshit that there would be Terran domination across all levels, not even across the top level its complete domination. The only player that looked untouchable was INnoVation. But keep crying

figq

12519 Posts

September 15 2013 21:18 GMT

#5369

On September 16 2013 06:15 Muffloe wrote:

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Haha that'll show 'em ^^

Wait, then how does U sound? (because O sounds like I thought U would sound)

ohmybuddha

8 Posts

September 15 2013 21:18 GMT

#5370

Howdy fellow starcraft fans.

Not sure if this is OT, but does anyone know the title of that video, of the old guy playing pipe organ. It was played while waiting for the finals of DHO Bucharest.

HammerKick

France6190 Posts

September 15 2013 21:18 GMT

#5371

On September 16 2013 06:16 TheRabidDeer wrote:
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In other news, go Innovation! It is odd, but I consider inno the underdog here.

need that frankerz btw

GO TEAM TAEJA GO!

BBV

213 Posts

September 15 2013 21:18 GMT

#5372

calling day9 nervous. lol u r just plain retarded. day9 is hyped as fk so he is a bit weird, gotta love this guy.

Mouzone

3937 Posts

September 15 2013 21:18 GMT

#5373

On September 16 2013 06:17 stuchiu wrote:

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He went to the same school as Incontrol, where anything that can be misconstrued as racist must be prefaced.

Either that or he's a Swedish leftist.

xN.07)MaK

Spain1159 Posts

September 15 2013 21:18 GMT

#5374

On September 16 2013 06:13 Aldehyde wrote:

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A lot of words in Spanish sound the same to me as well but only because I don't speak Spanish.

That must be it, because vowels are VERY DIFFERENT from each other, there's no partial overlap. And the same vowel cannot be pronounced in different ways, as in English.

However there are several words that are homophones and heterographs (h is silent, and b/v are usually pronounced the same way), but that's a different thing.

Cracy

Poland221 Posts

September 15 2013 21:18 GMT

#5375

DH Music Guy... Never change

On September 16 2013 06:16 TheRabidDeer wrote:
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In other news, go Innovation! It is odd, but I consider inno the underdog here.

Always cheering for the underdog. Whoever he is :D

DueSs

United States765 Posts

September 15 2013 21:18 GMT

#5376

On September 16 2013 06:17 stuchiu wrote:

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He went to the same school as Incontrol, where anything that can be misconstrued as racist must be prefaced.

I kinda hate that over-political correctness. Anyway, carry on. Whatev.

NarutO

Germany18839 Posts

September 15 2013 21:19 GMT

#5377

On September 16 2013 06:13 Onos wrote:

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And yet we have again, a top tier tourney being won by a terran. With this, we will have

10 Terran, 4 Zerg, and 3 Protoss

http://www.starcrafttrends.com/

Terran have ~59% tourney win rate (in a 3 way split)

Edit: And Zerg won Dreamhack Valencia, because Zergs met only 3 Terrans in the bracket - TheSTC, Lucifron and Dayshi.

Do you believe the Zerg and Protoss lineup was equal to the Terran lineup?