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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
September 14 2013 23:55 GMT
#4761
On September 15 2013 08:53 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 08:49 Darkhoarse wrote:
On September 15 2013 06:52 ZAiNs wrote:
Innovation has such an easy top bracket!

You crazy. Hyun and HerO is enough to make it more than a challenge.

You mean StarDust , ForGG, MMA, Avenge and HerO. Hyun is zerg so he does not count as challenge.

Of course, the whole bracket is stacked. I just wanted to throw out the (arguably) two most accomplished HotS players to dispute his argument.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Neptuneajax
Profile Joined April 2009
Australia206 Posts
September 15 2013 00:35 GMT
#4762
This is the sickest bracket I have ever seen.
Shinta)
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1716 Posts
September 15 2013 00:41 GMT
#4763
On September 15 2013 06:23 Swisslink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 06:19 Shinta) wrote:
On September 15 2013 06:08 Yonnua wrote:
On September 15 2013 06:04 Chemiczny84 wrote:
On September 15 2013 05:59 Sufinsil wrote:
On September 15 2013 05:58 Chemiczny84 wrote:
when will there be vod's? I'd like to see that "korean throw"


Life did a 1 base baneling bust on Whirlwind.

2nd game seemed standard.

1 base baneling bust? lol? really?


Huk loses to 2 aggressive builds from Life > "Life trying really hard to beat foreigners"
Life uses aggressive builds against Stardust > "Life throwing to help Koreans get through"

Looks like Huk is being as deluded as usual.

Meh not really, because out of all of the games those two players played today, that was probably the weakest Life has played and the easiest time Stardust has had considering the matchups.
Stardust too was probably going into that thinking Life would play much better.

Not here to defend HuK, but just saying that Life did indeed throw away HuK's chances without a fight.


Definitely NOT. If Life lost 2:1, Huk would have been out for sure, no matter what he does. The 2:0 for Sturdust increased his chances rather then threw them away.

=P you're silly. You seem to have overlooked the fact that only the 2:0 result would eliminate HuK.

2:1 for Stardust would bring upon a 3 way tiebreaker between Stardust HuK and Life.
2:1 for Life would have been HuK advancing
2:0 for Life would have been HuK advancing

In the end, it's all on HuK for not winning 2:0 over Heart (which would have giving him a 4-2 score + advantage over Stardust, leaving him with 1st place in the group, and Stardust in 2nd). Him losing that 1 game, plus Life throwing the 2:0 loss in there was the deciding factor between 1st in the group and 3rd.

Like I said, no way to defend HuK when he could have won himself a spot in the top two on his own merit, but Life did, in fact, threw HuK's chances without a fight.
Suteki Da Ne 素敵だね Isn't it Wonderful
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
September 15 2013 00:47 GMT
#4764
Jaedong, please!

This one is yours.
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
GranDGranT
Profile Joined April 2011
Sri Lanka2141 Posts
September 15 2013 00:48 GMT
#4765
Go Nerchio!
All Dota 2 casters are bad at their job
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
September 15 2013 00:49 GMT
#4766
Glad to see Avenge and Life made it through the group stages. Startale fighting!
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
Frostlone
Profile Joined February 2012
Australia75 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-15 01:12:57
September 15 2013 01:09 GMT
#4767
On September 15 2013 06:28 DarkLordOlli wrote:
HerO definitely can beat Innovation and if that happens his bracket to the finals is looking pretty set.

Looking at the bracket I agree. I think the winner of the 2 will be favoured to make it to the finals from there. Although MMA has been beasting it up as of recently and I wouldn't be surprised if he defeats everyone in his path either.

Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
September 15 2013 01:11 GMT
#4768
On September 15 2013 09:41 Shinta) wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 06:23 Swisslink wrote:
On September 15 2013 06:19 Shinta) wrote:
On September 15 2013 06:08 Yonnua wrote:
On September 15 2013 06:04 Chemiczny84 wrote:
On September 15 2013 05:59 Sufinsil wrote:
On September 15 2013 05:58 Chemiczny84 wrote:
when will there be vod's? I'd like to see that "korean throw"


Life did a 1 base baneling bust on Whirlwind.

2nd game seemed standard.

1 base baneling bust? lol? really?


Huk loses to 2 aggressive builds from Life > "Life trying really hard to beat foreigners"
Life uses aggressive builds against Stardust > "Life throwing to help Koreans get through"

Looks like Huk is being as deluded as usual.

Meh not really, because out of all of the games those two players played today, that was probably the weakest Life has played and the easiest time Stardust has had considering the matchups.
Stardust too was probably going into that thinking Life would play much better.

Not here to defend HuK, but just saying that Life did indeed throw away HuK's chances without a fight.


Definitely NOT. If Life lost 2:1, Huk would have been out for sure, no matter what he does. The 2:0 for Sturdust increased his chances rather then threw them away.

=P you're silly. You seem to have overlooked the fact that only the 2:0 result would eliminate HuK.

2:1 for Stardust would bring upon a 3 way tiebreaker between Stardust HuK and Life.
2:1 for Life would have been HuK advancing
2:0 for Life would have been HuK advancing

In the end, it's all on HuK for not winning 2:0 over Heart (which would have giving him a 4-2 score + advantage over Stardust, leaving him with 1st place in the group, and Stardust in 2nd). Him losing that 1 game, plus Life throwing the 2:0 loss in there was the deciding factor between 1st in the group and 3rd.

Like I said, no way to defend HuK when he could have won himself a spot in the top two on his own merit, but Life did, in fact, threw HuK's chances without a fight.

Would not have been a 3 way tiebreaker.. Had Life lost 2-1 he would have had a score of 5-3 instead of 4-3, giving him the highest map score in 1st place. Huk would have his map score of 4-3 and Stardust would have a map score of 4-3, letting huk advance off of head to head.

But there is no evidence of Life throwing the series. And Huk should not have allowed that second game vs. Heart to happen.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
September 15 2013 01:46 GMT
#4769
Are VoDs for Day 2 out?
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Shinta)
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1716 Posts
September 15 2013 01:50 GMT
#4770
On September 15 2013 10:11 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 09:41 Shinta) wrote:
On September 15 2013 06:23 Swisslink wrote:
On September 15 2013 06:19 Shinta) wrote:
On September 15 2013 06:08 Yonnua wrote:
On September 15 2013 06:04 Chemiczny84 wrote:
On September 15 2013 05:59 Sufinsil wrote:
On September 15 2013 05:58 Chemiczny84 wrote:
when will there be vod's? I'd like to see that "korean throw"


Life did a 1 base baneling bust on Whirlwind.

2nd game seemed standard.

1 base baneling bust? lol? really?


Huk loses to 2 aggressive builds from Life > "Life trying really hard to beat foreigners"
Life uses aggressive builds against Stardust > "Life throwing to help Koreans get through"

Looks like Huk is being as deluded as usual.

Meh not really, because out of all of the games those two players played today, that was probably the weakest Life has played and the easiest time Stardust has had considering the matchups.
Stardust too was probably going into that thinking Life would play much better.

Not here to defend HuK, but just saying that Life did indeed throw away HuK's chances without a fight.


Definitely NOT. If Life lost 2:1, Huk would have been out for sure, no matter what he does. The 2:0 for Sturdust increased his chances rather then threw them away.

=P you're silly. You seem to have overlooked the fact that only the 2:0 result would eliminate HuK.

2:1 for Stardust would bring upon a 3 way tiebreaker between Stardust HuK and Life.
2:1 for Life would have been HuK advancing
2:0 for Life would have been HuK advancing

In the end, it's all on HuK for not winning 2:0 over Heart (which would have giving him a 4-2 score + advantage over Stardust, leaving him with 1st place in the group, and Stardust in 2nd). Him losing that 1 game, plus Life throwing the 2:0 loss in there was the deciding factor between 1st in the group and 3rd.

Like I said, no way to defend HuK when he could have won himself a spot in the top two on his own merit, but Life did, in fact, threw HuK's chances without a fight.

Would not have been a 3 way tiebreaker.. Had Life lost 2-1 he would have had a score of 5-3 instead of 4-3, giving him the highest map score in 1st place. Huk would have his map score of 4-3 and Stardust would have a map score of 4-3, letting huk advance off of head to head.

But there is no evidence of Life throwing the series. And Huk should not have allowed that second game vs. Heart to happen.

True, Life would have gotten 1st, but my point stands.
Also, nobody is talking about match fixing. Whether or not it was intentional, he threw the games. Be it a lack of focus or whatever, the term is still commonly used when you play below your level at any random point and lose bad games/matches for the simple sake of not playing the way you should or could have.

And I already said that about HuK...
Suteki Da Ne 素敵だね Isn't it Wonderful
Zax19
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Czech Republic1136 Posts
September 15 2013 01:51 GMT
#4771
Don't forget to support Gameheart if you can, or spam Dreamhack about it
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gameheart-redesigned
Really Blizz, really? - Darnell
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
September 15 2013 02:22 GMT
#4772
Expect some very tired / grouchy Acer and Liquid players tomorrow hopefully most of the people involved on day 2 won't be too tired to put on a great show
Year of MaxPax
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
September 15 2013 02:28 GMT
#4773
Poll: Who will jaedong get 4:0'd by in the finals?

MMA (8)
 
30%

He wont get there (8)
 
30%

Innovation (4)
 
15%

Hero (3)
 
11%

Someone else (3)
 
11%

Hyun (1)
 
4%

27 total votes

Your vote: Who will jaedong get 4:0'd by in the finals?

(Vote): Innovation
(Vote): Hyun
(Vote): MMA
(Vote): Hero
(Vote): Someone else
(Vote): He wont get there

lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 15 2013 02:33 GMT
#4774
On September 15 2013 11:28 bo1b wrote:
Poll: Who will jaedong get 4:0'd by in the finals?

MMA (8)
 
30%

He wont get there (8)
 
30%

Innovation (4)
 
15%

Hero (3)
 
11%

Someone else (3)
 
11%

Hyun (1)
 
4%

27 total votes

Your vote: Who will jaedong get 4:0'd by in the finals?

(Vote): Innovation
(Vote): Hyun
(Vote): MMA
(Vote): Hero
(Vote): Someone else
(Vote): He wont get there


Don''t want to make you sad: it is Bo5.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17744 Posts
September 15 2013 02:40 GMT
#4775
I really hope Life stomps Nerchio and makes a good run. I guess I'm rooting for Hero, Hyun, MMA, Avenge, Taeja, Life, Supernova.
"Expert" mods4ever.com
cmgillett
Profile Joined March 2010
United States335 Posts
September 15 2013 03:01 GMT
#4776
a final needs to be bo7!
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17744 Posts
September 15 2013 03:01 GMT
#4777
On September 15 2013 12:01 cmgillett wrote:
a final needs to be bo7!

and a premier tournament needs to be at least 3 days lol
"Expert" mods4ever.com
pylonsalad
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada649 Posts
September 15 2013 03:18 GMT
#4778
No one knows if Life fixed his games or not but I could understand Huk being pissed at how those games looked from his perspective. If I were in his shoes I would also think: 1 base baneling bust? Fast hive for no purpose? Are you really trying, Life?
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17744 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-15 03:30:51
September 15 2013 03:20 GMT
#4779
On September 15 2013 12:18 pylonsalad wrote:
No one knows if Life fixed his games or not but I could understand Huk being pissed at how those games looked from his perspective. If I were in his shoes I would also think: 1 base baneling bust? Fast hive for no purpose? Are you really trying, Life?

They should be using GSL style groups. Would also make the first day a little shorter and less tiring (especially for the players).
5 bo3s per group instead of 6 bo3s per group with possible tie breakers.
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
September 15 2013 03:55 GMT
#4780
is there any guide to VoDS? wanna watch JDs games but cant figure out how to find them :< (at least his 4rd group stage games)
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