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Stop balance whining. Do we seriously need a mod note for this? Disappointing.
Bam Lee
Profile Joined June 2012
2336 Posts
September 06 2013 11:54 GMT
#1481
On September 06 2013 20:51 Wildmoon wrote:
I kinda think maybe David Kim knows more about StarCraft than a lot of people here. He made a small change but it's pretty impactful.


Of course he does. Doesnt change the fact tho that people will always hate the people responsible for balance if the game is not according to their taste.

I am glad DRG showed how to properly use mutas in TvZ now with the overseers :D
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
September 06 2013 11:54 GMT
#1482
I think the best part of that series was drg looked so fucking happy to win, and so confident in game again. That aura of "I cannot possibly fail" was definitely showing in the game.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 06 2013 11:54 GMT
#1483
gumiho should win this and innovation should defeat gumiho
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
September 06 2013 11:54 GMT
#1484
On September 06 2013 20:54 ShroudeD wrote:
wtf drg won against innovation?DRG is back?


What the VoDs, seriously.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
September 06 2013 11:54 GMT
#1485
On September 06 2013 20:53 NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 20:53 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On September 06 2013 20:52 NarutO wrote:
People calling INnoVation scrub :D

All: 85-35 (70.83%)

Seriously?


Where are those stats from? :s


TLPD


Lol no wonder they're incomplete.

He's 191-95 overall in SC2 (67%) which is more impressive considering the sample size is more than double.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2974 Posts
September 06 2013 11:54 GMT
#1486
On September 06 2013 20:52 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 20:49 Novel wrote:
I somehow feel that HOTS spoiled terrans. Like end of WOL spoiled zergs.
Terran seems to rely more and more on pure cost-efficiency and lack of late-game threat from Zerg than on micro and multitask. It is quite depressing.
Splits getting worse and worse. Maybe is have something to do with presence of mines in control group. Drop play also decreased in last couple of months. At least in TvZ.

Wut? 4M asks constant micro and is more demanding than Marines/Tanks.


Agreed, it's a very high risk but high reward unit comp that only a few Terrans can pull off with outstanding unit control and multi tasking.

Any half decent macro terran can make 4M, but how efficient they make it means they'll end up dying and getting overrun a lot faster than the rare few Terrans out there who can pull it off.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
September 06 2013 11:54 GMT
#1487
On September 06 2013 20:53 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 20:52 Elite_ wrote:
Everyone should tweet Artosis something about INnoVation's TvZ being the best match-up and Bomber's TvT being only 90% or Jaedong's ZvZ only being 90%.

it's not just winrates, look at Jaedong's ZvZ, his winrate is much better than his actual skill


Yeah agree.

Like ForGG's TvT - its stellar, but its inflated
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
September 06 2013 11:55 GMT
#1488
On September 06 2013 20:54 bo1b wrote:
I think the best part of that series was drg looked so fucking happy to win, and so confident in game again. That aura of "I cannot possibly fail" was definitely showing in the game.

He's looked so much happier today than he has in a long, long time. So happy to see it.
Long live the King of Wings
Parcelleus
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1662 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-06 11:55:38
September 06 2013 11:55 GMT
#1489
DRG wow that was impressive .
*burp*
jarod
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania766 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-06 11:55:28
September 06 2013 11:55 GMT
#1490
just saw.. the Dong is back!!! gogo DRG
How were the games vs Inno?
Maru | Life | herO
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
September 06 2013 11:55 GMT
#1491
On September 06 2013 20:55 jarod wrote:
just saw.. the Dong is back!!! gogo DRG
How were the games vs Inno?


Insane. Must watch.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
September 06 2013 11:56 GMT
#1492
DRG pushed through a new mechanical level as far as I am concerned. Shows you that mechanics still make a difference in SC2
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
September 06 2013 11:56 GMT
#1493
There's a possibility that Bogus may not make the ro8 this season if Gumiho makes it through. He's still favored but I really think Gumi can take him as well should he pass herO.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
September 06 2013 11:56 GMT
#1494
On September 06 2013 20:54 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 20:53 NarutO wrote:
On September 06 2013 20:53 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On September 06 2013 20:52 NarutO wrote:
People calling INnoVation scrub :D

All: 85-35 (70.83%)

Seriously?


Where are those stats from? :s


TLPD


Lol no wonder they're incomplete.

He's 191-95 overall in SC2 (67%) which is more impressive considering the sample size is more than double.


Which still leaves my point standing. People who call him a scrub are dumb.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
tofubeans
Profile Joined January 2011
United States794 Posts
September 06 2013 11:56 GMT
#1495
man it's tough to listen to tasteless anymore
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 06 2013 11:56 GMT
#1496
haha Artosis.
I had a good night of sleep.
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
September 06 2013 11:56 GMT
#1497
hhahahahaah artosis <3
I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16122 Posts
September 06 2013 11:56 GMT
#1498
On September 06 2013 20:55 jarod wrote:
just saw.. the Dong is back!!! gogo DRG
How were the games vs Inno?


5 star game 1 and 2.

Game 3 probably a 4 star but overall one of the best TvZ series of HoTS.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
September 06 2013 11:56 GMT
#1499
On September 06 2013 20:53 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 20:51 Koshi wrote:
On September 06 2013 20:50 LimitSEA wrote:
On September 06 2013 20:48 Cokefreak wrote:
On September 06 2013 20:48 Jer99 wrote:
Wait DRG beat innovation?

Not just beat, demolished.

That's what blows my mind the most about this series. He didn't edge out a win vs Innovation, he just straight outplayed him.

Yup. Insane. I never thought it was possible vs MMMBwop but DRG made it look easy.


He did?

What i saw in that series was DRG using every new trick we saw from Soulkey, and then perfected it behind flawless macro, GODLY micro and ridiculous intuition and game awareness.

Basically DRG played a level of TvZ that we just haven't seen before and anything less than that would've been a loss in typical Innovation Parade push fashion.

I saw DRG raise the bar, he didn't make it look easy but he did make it look convincing.


Um, you know sometimes raising the bar is actually the proper way to handle something. DRG made it look easy, but that doesn't mean it was. Terrans will have to step up their game and stop using 4M parade every game like they used to, if Zergs can attain the new bar that DRG raised today.

Ultimately, this is very good for TvZ and SC2 in general, so be very happy that the level of play is continuing to rise.
maru lover forever
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8159 Posts
September 06 2013 11:56 GMT
#1500
I'll definitely watch this series when I get home, sounds like DRG had near-perfect games
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
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