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Balance whine ends now (2:03 KST). Bans will be issued (I can't believe we have to do this again...)
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
September 05 2013 20:18 GMT
#1241
On September 06 2013 05:03 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 05:00 samurai80 wrote:
On September 06 2013 04:40 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 06 2013 04:40 Doublemint wrote:
On September 06 2013 04:39 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 06 2013 04:39 samurai80 wrote:
On September 06 2013 04:33 lolfail9001 wrote:
I hate protoss. They killed Mvp. Yes, his wrists, spine and neck too.

He killed himself tonight though...

Because protoss.


Protoss fan detected!

Yeah, samurai80 likes protoss, i noticed

Wait how my statement was even biased. This is just an objective remark imo.
Edit: at the very least more objective than your posts.

Yes, my Mvp bias showing and he certainly did not play well (and had all reasons in the world to do so), and so are your protoss bias when someone wins a game against toss (yes, i remember you being in that WCS S2 finals LR something something being upset with toss losing to superior control from his opponent.

Well you record well. I was kinda pissed indeed But please don't use my whole post history against me, it's not fair
DifuntO
Profile Joined November 2011
Greece2376 Posts
September 05 2013 20:19 GMT
#1242
Do you guys remember right after HotS release when people were like "Terran too strong in TvP,,medivacs with boost are ridiculous,Protoss can't win".

How times change...

Anyway,congratulations to Vortix and Showtime!
All I do is Stim.
BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
September 05 2013 20:20 GMT
#1243
On September 06 2013 05:19 DifuntO wrote:
Do you guys remember right after HotS release when people were like "Terran too strong in TvP,,medivacs with boost are ridiculous,Protoss can't win".

How times change...

Anyway,congratulations to Vortix and Showtime!


Watching MVP and Yoda and other terrans eviscerate Protoss with multiple prongs in that first IEM was pretty goddamn scary.
ProgamerAustralian alcohol user follow @iaguzSC2
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
September 05 2013 20:20 GMT
#1244
On September 06 2013 05:18 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 05:16 TheDwf wrote:
On September 06 2013 05:15 NovaMB wrote:
On September 06 2013 05:14 TheDwf wrote:
On September 06 2013 05:14 NovaMB wrote:
On September 06 2013 05:12 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 06 2013 05:06 NovaMB wrote:
On September 06 2013 05:04 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 06 2013 05:03 Musicus wrote:
Everbody thinking that no terran besides Taeja can win without SCV pulls should watch some Happy games (warning: this will take a while).

Happy vs HasuObs on daybreak. Watch it. And it was season 1, by the way.


If you have time, alot of it

It was not really long game though. I believe it ended around time Hasu got around 5 or so tempests. So it lasted around 40 minutes.


Yeah I forgot, he basically cheesed the shit outta Happy

Why are you calling a Tempest transition "cheese"?


Sarcasm

Time to fix my detector!

Happy b-day, at least you had your portion of terran winning TvPs :D

Thanks! And to the other people as well. I wanted Flash and jjakji to advance to RO16, at least this was fulfilled. (;
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 05 2013 20:21 GMT
#1245
On September 06 2013 05:18 samurai80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 05:03 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 06 2013 05:00 samurai80 wrote:
On September 06 2013 04:40 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 06 2013 04:40 Doublemint wrote:
On September 06 2013 04:39 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 06 2013 04:39 samurai80 wrote:
On September 06 2013 04:33 lolfail9001 wrote:
I hate protoss. They killed Mvp. Yes, his wrists, spine and neck too.

He killed himself tonight though...

Because protoss.


Protoss fan detected!

Yeah, samurai80 likes protoss, i noticed

Wait how my statement was even biased. This is just an objective remark imo.
Edit: at the very least more objective than your posts.

Yes, my Mvp bias showing and he certainly did not play well (and had all reasons in the world to do so), and so are your protoss bias when someone wins a game against toss (yes, i remember you being in that WCS S2 finals LR something something being upset with toss losing to superior control from his opponent.

Well you record well. I was kinda pissed indeed But please don't use my whole post history against me, it's not fair

I did not bother to look in post history, my memory for useless things is good enough for that. And yes, everyone is biased, let's be fair
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
September 05 2013 20:22 GMT
#1246
On September 06 2013 05:19 DifuntO wrote:
Do you guys remember right after HotS release when people were like "Terran too strong in TvP,,medivacs with boost are ridiculous,Protoss can't win".

How times change...

Indeed; which is why time should be given for match-ups to develop, instead of the constant patching we get.
Magnifico
Profile Joined March 2013
1958 Posts
September 05 2013 20:22 GMT
#1247
I'm so tired reading LP threads here and on reddit as well.

People are just stupid and the absolute majority just don't understand the game to be able to do any meaningful assessment. Then we get all these imba talks and SC2 is dying kind of trash.

Reddit and TL are just like battlenet forums and twitch chat. If you want read something reasonably interesting these days you have to be super selective.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 05 2013 20:23 GMT
#1248
On September 06 2013 05:19 DifuntO wrote:
Do you guys remember right after HotS release when people were like "Terran too strong in TvP,,medivacs with boost are ridiculous,Protoss can't win".

How times change...

Anyway,congratulations to Vortix and Showtime!

HotS beta:
Speedyvacs.
HotS release:
Skillbat drops (and they were not even THAT OP).
Warp Prism + appearance of First vs Fantasy (seriously, it almost felt like tosses suddenly got good in PvT after this series).
Hellbat nerf:
Well, we see it now.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
September 05 2013 20:24 GMT
#1249
On September 06 2013 05:19 DifuntO wrote:
Do you guys remember right after HotS release when people were like "Terran too strong in TvP,,medivacs with boost are ridiculous,Protoss can't win".

How times change...

Anyway,congratulations to Vortix and Showtime!


Whenever I see Terran "drop everywhere so OP" I think back to when MMA got figured out and suddenly couldn't win TvZ.

When a new drop style shows up it will always be OP for about a month. Then the drops get solved.
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4767 Posts
September 05 2013 20:24 GMT
#1250
On September 06 2013 05:22 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 05:19 DifuntO wrote:
Do you guys remember right after HotS release when people were like "Terran too strong in TvP,,medivacs with boost are ridiculous,Protoss can't win".

How times change...

Indeed; which is why time should be given for match-ups to develop, instead of the constant patching we get.


Couldnt agree more. Too fast patching is doom of good balance.
Pathetic Greta hater.
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-05 20:25:39
September 05 2013 20:25 GMT
#1251
On September 06 2013 05:19 DifuntO wrote:
Do you guys remember right after HotS release when people were like "Terran too strong in TvP,,medivacs with boost are ridiculous,Protoss can't win".

How times change...

Anyway,congratulations to Vortix and Showtime!

I almost feel like this LR thread is one elaborate troll attempt because this PvT stomping comes at the heels of Happy's 4-0 yesterday and ForGG's 4-1 the day before.
BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
September 05 2013 20:25 GMT
#1252
On September 06 2013 05:23 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 05:19 DifuntO wrote:
Do you guys remember right after HotS release when people were like "Terran too strong in TvP,,medivacs with boost are ridiculous,Protoss can't win".

How times change...

Anyway,congratulations to Vortix and Showtime!

HotS beta:
Speedyvacs.
HotS release:
Skillbat drops (and they were not even THAT OP).
Warp Prism + appearance of First vs Fantasy (seriously, it almost felt like tosses suddenly got good in PvT after this series).
Hellbat nerf:
Well, we see it now.


Hellbat nerf was entirely justified. TvT was a fucking horrid joke when they were around.
ProgamerAustralian alcohol user follow @iaguzSC2
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 05 2013 20:25 GMT
#1253
On September 06 2013 05:24 Thieving Magpie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 05:19 DifuntO wrote:
Do you guys remember right after HotS release when people were like "Terran too strong in TvP,,medivacs with boost are ridiculous,Protoss can't win".

How times change...

Anyway,congratulations to Vortix and Showtime!


Whenever I see Terran "drop everywhere so OP" I think back to when MMA got figured out and suddenly couldn't win TvZ.

When a new drop style shows up it will always be OP for about a month. Then the drops get solved.

Could not win TvZ? It happened after May 2012, did not it :D?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 05 2013 20:26 GMT
#1254
On September 06 2013 05:25 iaguz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 05:23 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 06 2013 05:19 DifuntO wrote:
Do you guys remember right after HotS release when people were like "Terran too strong in TvP,,medivacs with boost are ridiculous,Protoss can't win".

How times change...

Anyway,congratulations to Vortix and Showtime!

HotS beta:
Speedyvacs.
HotS release:
Skillbat drops (and they were not even THAT OP).
Warp Prism + appearance of First vs Fantasy (seriously, it almost felt like tosses suddenly got good in PvT after this series).
Hellbat nerf:
Well, we see it now.


Hellbat nerf was entirely justified. TvT was a fucking horrid joke when they were around.

Yeah, i agree with it. I mean that Hellbat drops were not THAT OP in TvP.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
September 05 2013 20:27 GMT
#1255
On September 06 2013 05:25 iaguz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 05:23 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 06 2013 05:19 DifuntO wrote:
Do you guys remember right after HotS release when people were like "Terran too strong in TvP,,medivacs with boost are ridiculous,Protoss can't win".

How times change...

Anyway,congratulations to Vortix and Showtime!

HotS beta:
Speedyvacs.
HotS release:
Skillbat drops (and they were not even THAT OP).
Warp Prism + appearance of First vs Fantasy (seriously, it almost felt like tosses suddenly got good in PvT after this series).
Hellbat nerf:
Well, we see it now.


Hellbat nerf was entirely justified. TvT was a fucking horrid joke when they were around.


Yes, unfortunately, the side effect was the PvT matchup was made even more 1 dimensional.
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
September 05 2013 20:29 GMT
#1256
Mvp TT
Writer for Red bull (Fr) and Iron Squid (En/Fr) @ClemLeLfe on twitter
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 05 2013 20:30 GMT
#1257
On September 06 2013 05:25 ssxsilver wrote:ForGG's 4-1.

Not to steal anything from your point, but i have seen ShowTime stomping ForGG in exact same manner. 3-3 max out push with 5+ collosi backed up by small amounts of harass and decent drop defense.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3695 Posts
September 05 2013 20:51 GMT
#1258
On September 06 2013 05:25 iaguz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 05:23 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 06 2013 05:19 DifuntO wrote:
Do you guys remember right after HotS release when people were like "Terran too strong in TvP,,medivacs with boost are ridiculous,Protoss can't win".

How times change...

Anyway,congratulations to Vortix and Showtime!

HotS beta:
Speedyvacs.
HotS release:
Skillbat drops (and they were not even THAT OP).
Warp Prism + appearance of First vs Fantasy (seriously, it almost felt like tosses suddenly got good in PvT after this series).
Hellbat nerf:
Well, we see it now.


Hellbat nerf was entirely justified. TvT was a fucking horrid joke when they were around.


You don't fix a MIRROR matchup by nerfing. Nerfing usually = no one builds it anymore and we see how you see P rely on mass zealots again and terran having a hard time dealing with it. Hellbat DROPS are drops afterall hellbats themselves were not broken tvt, if they would just make mines 1 hit medivacs mine opener would counter hellbat drop opener. But blizz prefers to nerf to balance instead of buffing.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
September 05 2013 20:52 GMT
#1259
On September 06 2013 05:25 ssxsilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 05:19 DifuntO wrote:
Do you guys remember right after HotS release when people were like "Terran too strong in TvP,,medivacs with boost are ridiculous,Protoss can't win".

How times change...

Anyway,congratulations to Vortix and Showtime!

I almost feel like this LR thread is one elaborate troll attempt because this PvT stomping comes at the heels of Happy's 4-0 yesterday and ForGG's 4-1 the day before.

And jjakji dismantling First twice in WCS Korea.
sacade
Profile Joined January 2013
166 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-05 20:54:27
September 05 2013 20:54 GMT
#1260
I see balance whine but imo if he all-in so much, a better explanation is time zone (and lag). When people want to sleep, they just do the same all-in build again and again. That is as bad as it was tonight.
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