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shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
August 25 2013 23:18 GMT
#6121
Jaedong is really good in ZvZ and aparently ZvP right now, i think his ZvT is not bad but when he plays them in finals and against really strong micro players like bomber and polt he fails big time..

But he is one of the best zergs in the world right now, really fun to see also. The hype and tension of him failing is very exciting and i'm glad he is posting strong results even if it's second places.. if he keeps improving he will win many championships
BENFICA || Besties: idra, Stephano, Nestea, Jaedong, Serral, Jinro, Scarlett || Zerg <3
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19371 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-25 23:23:08
August 25 2013 23:22 GMT
#6122
On August 26 2013 08:17 1Dhalism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2013 08:13 BisuDagger wrote:
On August 26 2013 08:02 1Dhalism wrote:
On August 26 2013 07:54 BisuDagger wrote:
On August 26 2013 02:25 goody153 wrote:
On August 26 2013 02:10 johnnyapplec wrote:
Funny thing is that jaedong is also 2nd on wcs points
Just can't get first

maybe he will also get second place in The PowerRank this august ... seriously though he is almost always 2nd place in BW .. he is considered the 2nd greatest BW player next to flash (though i doubt that BisuDagger thinks the same) .. and he is the second zerg player who is revolutionizing the zerg race(savior is the first one) bigtime ..

Well I'm so glad I got dragged into this.

This is a roughly debatable (with slots 6-10) but solid list
1. (T)Flash
2. (T)NaDa
3. (Z)Jaedong
4. (Z)sAviOr
5. (T)Oov
6. (P)Bisu
7. (T)BoxeR
8. (Z)JulyZerg
9. (T)Fantasy
10. (P)Stork

Jaedong wasn't even two rofl. Call me out when you have a solid BW foundation. Fanboiyism doesn't change stats or history. I know where Bisu sits and I'm comfortable with it.

I don't know what your fighting words post supposed to mean but here

Wow. There was a list on TL this whole time? I'm sure it is complete and accurate depiction of the history of BW and their accomplishments all compiled into the decision making of that list and not just based on how certain players won enough games in a row to top that list.

There is evidence to suggest Jaedong was #2 player in the world. It's your right to think that this evidence is inconclusive, but to think that your home made list somehow trumps it, and to call people fanboys over not believing in your perfectly subjective list is foolish.

1. You don't follow BW or participate in it. 2. I was called out first and I responded.

If for someone reason you feel the need to debate over this EVEN after I said the list was "roughly debatable" then you can send me PMs. I do not wish to comment more on BW in a SC2 thread. Thank you.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
oucho
Profile Joined November 2012
United Kingdom22 Posts
August 25 2013 23:28 GMT
#6123
On August 26 2013 08:00 halfaspider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2013 07:33 jonich0n wrote:
Biggest disappointments for me were Maru and probably Polt (and to a lesser extent Innovation, but he's looked fallible lately when not playing vZ).

Alive doing so well was quite a surprise, he was so damn close to beating First and getting the the Ro4... still, he continues to rack up those WCS points quietly (heh invisible terran). And Scarlett had a really nice run. Losing to the eventual champion in the Ro8 in a close series, massive props there. Her ZvT has to be currently the best in the world.

I agree, but do find it a little troubling that the best ZvTer in the world, Scarlett, lost to a Terran who's weakest matchup is probably his TvZ. This goes for Bomber as well as Alive I think.

erm scarlett doesn't have the best ZvT in the world lol
im cool yo
1Dhalism
Profile Joined June 2012
862 Posts
August 25 2013 23:28 GMT
#6124
On August 26 2013 08:22 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2013 08:17 1Dhalism wrote:
On August 26 2013 08:13 BisuDagger wrote:
On August 26 2013 08:02 1Dhalism wrote:
On August 26 2013 07:54 BisuDagger wrote:
On August 26 2013 02:25 goody153 wrote:
On August 26 2013 02:10 johnnyapplec wrote:
Funny thing is that jaedong is also 2nd on wcs points
Just can't get first

maybe he will also get second place in The PowerRank this august ... seriously though he is almost always 2nd place in BW .. he is considered the 2nd greatest BW player next to flash (though i doubt that BisuDagger thinks the same) .. and he is the second zerg player who is revolutionizing the zerg race(savior is the first one) bigtime ..

Well I'm so glad I got dragged into this.

This is a roughly debatable (with slots 6-10) but solid list
1. (T)Flash
2. (T)NaDa
3. (Z)Jaedong
4. (Z)sAviOr
5. (T)Oov
6. (P)Bisu
7. (T)BoxeR
8. (Z)JulyZerg
9. (T)Fantasy
10. (P)Stork

Jaedong wasn't even two rofl. Call me out when you have a solid BW foundation. Fanboiyism doesn't change stats or history. I know where Bisu sits and I'm comfortable with it.

I don't know what your fighting words post supposed to mean but here

Wow. There was a list on TL this whole time? I'm sure it is complete and accurate depiction of the history of BW and their accomplishments all compiled into the decision making of that list and not just based on how certain players won enough games in a row to top that list.

There is evidence to suggest Jaedong was #2 player in the world. It's your right to think that this evidence is inconclusive, but to think that your home made list somehow trumps it, and to call people fanboys over not believing in your perfectly subjective list is foolish.

1. You don't follow BW or participate in it. 2. I was called out first and I responded.

If for someone reason you feel the need to debate over this EVEN after I said the list was "roughly debatable" then you can send me PMs. I do not wish to comment more on BW in a SC2 thread. Thank you.


You rank JD 3rd, call it debatable and then proceed to insult people over ranking JD 2nd, not 3rd.
Logical, i'm sure.
Bayyne
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1967 Posts
August 25 2013 23:30 GMT
#6125
I haven't been watching or following too much SC2, but I have to say I thoroughly enjoyed this event. The games were great (maybe not the finals, but the previous rounds felt entertaining), production and professionalism was there. The tournament evoked a sense of true pride in wanting to win the trophy, something that I feel some other tournaments (MLG) hadn't really shared.

Overall great event and I look forward to Season 3.
Remember not only to say the right thing in the right place, but far more difficult still, to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.
Zenniv
Profile Joined September 2011
United States545 Posts
August 25 2013 23:31 GMT
#6126
Wow bomber finally did it. :D
neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
August 25 2013 23:31 GMT
#6127
On August 26 2013 08:28 1Dhalism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2013 08:22 BisuDagger wrote:
On August 26 2013 08:17 1Dhalism wrote:
On August 26 2013 08:13 BisuDagger wrote:
On August 26 2013 08:02 1Dhalism wrote:
On August 26 2013 07:54 BisuDagger wrote:
On August 26 2013 02:25 goody153 wrote:
On August 26 2013 02:10 johnnyapplec wrote:
Funny thing is that jaedong is also 2nd on wcs points
Just can't get first

maybe he will also get second place in The PowerRank this august ... seriously though he is almost always 2nd place in BW .. he is considered the 2nd greatest BW player next to flash (though i doubt that BisuDagger thinks the same) .. and he is the second zerg player who is revolutionizing the zerg race(savior is the first one) bigtime ..

Well I'm so glad I got dragged into this.

This is a roughly debatable (with slots 6-10) but solid list
1. (T)Flash
2. (T)NaDa
3. (Z)Jaedong
4. (Z)sAviOr
5. (T)Oov
6. (P)Bisu
7. (T)BoxeR
8. (Z)JulyZerg
9. (T)Fantasy
10. (P)Stork

Jaedong wasn't even two rofl. Call me out when you have a solid BW foundation. Fanboiyism doesn't change stats or history. I know where Bisu sits and I'm comfortable with it.

I don't know what your fighting words post supposed to mean but here

Wow. There was a list on TL this whole time? I'm sure it is complete and accurate depiction of the history of BW and their accomplishments all compiled into the decision making of that list and not just based on how certain players won enough games in a row to top that list.

There is evidence to suggest Jaedong was #2 player in the world. It's your right to think that this evidence is inconclusive, but to think that your home made list somehow trumps it, and to call people fanboys over not believing in your perfectly subjective list is foolish.

1. You don't follow BW or participate in it. 2. I was called out first and I responded.

If for someone reason you feel the need to debate over this EVEN after I said the list was "roughly debatable" then you can send me PMs. I do not wish to comment more on BW in a SC2 thread. Thank you.


You rank JD 3rd, call it debatable and then proceed to insult people over ranking JD 2nd, not 3rd.
Logical, i'm sure.


I think this whole conversation is oversaturated by douchbag nonsense. Please stop, everybody. JD can be the best or second best or third best for you, if you want to. Just look into your hearts, if you still have anything resembling one.
maru G5L pls
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
August 25 2013 23:37 GMT
#6128
On August 26 2013 08:28 1Dhalism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2013 08:22 BisuDagger wrote:
On August 26 2013 08:17 1Dhalism wrote:
On August 26 2013 08:13 BisuDagger wrote:
On August 26 2013 08:02 1Dhalism wrote:
On August 26 2013 07:54 BisuDagger wrote:
On August 26 2013 02:25 goody153 wrote:
On August 26 2013 02:10 johnnyapplec wrote:
Funny thing is that jaedong is also 2nd on wcs points
Just can't get first

maybe he will also get second place in The PowerRank this august ... seriously though he is almost always 2nd place in BW .. he is considered the 2nd greatest BW player next to flash (though i doubt that BisuDagger thinks the same) .. and he is the second zerg player who is revolutionizing the zerg race(savior is the first one) bigtime ..

Well I'm so glad I got dragged into this.

This is a roughly debatable (with slots 6-10) but solid list
1. (T)Flash
2. (T)NaDa
3. (Z)Jaedong
4. (Z)sAviOr
5. (T)Oov
6. (P)Bisu
7. (T)BoxeR
8. (Z)JulyZerg
9. (T)Fantasy
10. (P)Stork

Jaedong wasn't even two rofl. Call me out when you have a solid BW foundation. Fanboiyism doesn't change stats or history. I know where Bisu sits and I'm comfortable with it.

I don't know what your fighting words post supposed to mean but here

Wow. There was a list on TL this whole time? I'm sure it is complete and accurate depiction of the history of BW and their accomplishments all compiled into the decision making of that list and not just based on how certain players won enough games in a row to top that list.

There is evidence to suggest Jaedong was #2 player in the world. It's your right to think that this evidence is inconclusive, but to think that your home made list somehow trumps it, and to call people fanboys over not believing in your perfectly subjective list is foolish.

1. You don't follow BW or participate in it. 2. I was called out first and I responded.

If for someone reason you feel the need to debate over this EVEN after I said the list was "roughly debatable" then you can send me PMs. I do not wish to comment more on BW in a SC2 thread. Thank you.


You rank JD 3rd, call it debatable and then proceed to insult people over ranking JD 2nd, not 3rd.
Logical, i'm sure.


Except for the fact that no one was insulted. I think you entirely mis-read what BD was saying.

BD is a known Bisu fanboy. He posted that list as an explanation to clarify that even though he is a Bisu fanboy it still doesn't keep him from understanding Bisu is not in contention for consideration as #1 BW player all time.

He called absolutely no one, but himself, a fanboy. Please feel free to explain where he insulted you over ranking JD second, but I suspect you will find that quite impossible.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
August 25 2013 23:43 GMT
#6129
BD's a guy? :O
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
August 25 2013 23:44 GMT
#6130
On August 26 2013 08:43 babylon wrote:
BD's a guy? :O


Yes indeed.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 25 2013 23:47 GMT
#6131
On August 26 2013 08:43 babylon wrote:
BD's a guy? :O

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406562
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babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
August 25 2013 23:49 GMT
#6132
Blast, now I'm like 1/4 on the posters I was wondering about.

I never would've imagined such posts and trash talk coming from such a friendly looking guy.
1Dhalism
Profile Joined June 2012
862 Posts
August 25 2013 23:51 GMT
#6133
On August 26 2013 08:37 L_Master wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2013 08:28 1Dhalism wrote:
On August 26 2013 08:22 BisuDagger wrote:
On August 26 2013 08:17 1Dhalism wrote:
On August 26 2013 08:13 BisuDagger wrote:
On August 26 2013 08:02 1Dhalism wrote:
On August 26 2013 07:54 BisuDagger wrote:
On August 26 2013 02:25 goody153 wrote:
On August 26 2013 02:10 johnnyapplec wrote:
Funny thing is that jaedong is also 2nd on wcs points
Just can't get first

maybe he will also get second place in The PowerRank this august ... seriously though he is almost always 2nd place in BW .. he is considered the 2nd greatest BW player next to flash (though i doubt that BisuDagger thinks the same) .. and he is the second zerg player who is revolutionizing the zerg race(savior is the first one) bigtime ..

Well I'm so glad I got dragged into this.

This is a roughly debatable (with slots 6-10) but solid list
1. (T)Flash
2. (T)NaDa
3. (Z)Jaedong
4. (Z)sAviOr
5. (T)Oov
6. (P)Bisu
7. (T)BoxeR
8. (Z)JulyZerg
9. (T)Fantasy
10. (P)Stork

Jaedong wasn't even two rofl. Call me out when you have a solid BW foundation. Fanboiyism doesn't change stats or history. I know where Bisu sits and I'm comfortable with it.

I don't know what your fighting words post supposed to mean but here

Wow. There was a list on TL this whole time? I'm sure it is complete and accurate depiction of the history of BW and their accomplishments all compiled into the decision making of that list and not just based on how certain players won enough games in a row to top that list.

There is evidence to suggest Jaedong was #2 player in the world. It's your right to think that this evidence is inconclusive, but to think that your home made list somehow trumps it, and to call people fanboys over not believing in your perfectly subjective list is foolish.

1. You don't follow BW or participate in it. 2. I was called out first and I responded.

If for someone reason you feel the need to debate over this EVEN after I said the list was "roughly debatable" then you can send me PMs. I do not wish to comment more on BW in a SC2 thread. Thank you.


You rank JD 3rd, call it debatable and then proceed to insult people over ranking JD 2nd, not 3rd.
Logical, i'm sure.


Except for the fact that no one was insulted. I think you entirely mis-read what BD was saying.

BD is a known Bisu fanboy. He posted that list as an explanation to clarify that even though he is a Bisu fanboy it still doesn't keep him from understanding Bisu is not in contention for consideration as #1 BW player all time.

He called absolutely no one, but himself, a fanboy. Please feel free to explain where he insulted you over ranking JD second, but I suspect you will find that quite impossible.

perhaps i misunderstood the fanboy comment.
But claiming people who clearly follow or have followed BW have no BW foundation? Is that a way to send hugs over the internet?
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
August 25 2013 23:53 GMT
#6134
On August 26 2013 08:49 babylon wrote:
Blast, now I'm like 1/4 on the posters I was wondering about.

I never would've imagined such posts and trash talk coming from such a friendly looking guy.

BisuDagger is a brood war fan and followed it for a long time and he is friendly too That all you need to know.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
GunPaladin
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1205 Posts
August 25 2013 23:56 GMT
#6135
On August 26 2013 02:01 PVJ wrote:
Jaedong man

Jaedong why do you continue to break my heart?
The doctors gave me 9 months to live, ]BIG[ gave me a life time.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 25 2013 23:58 GMT
#6136
On August 26 2013 08:43 babylon wrote:
BD's a guy? :O


I'm curious why you thought otherwise
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19371 Posts
August 25 2013 23:58 GMT
#6137
On August 26 2013 08:49 babylon wrote:
Blast, now I'm like 1/4 on the posters I was wondering about.

I never would've imagined such posts and trash talk coming from such a friendly looking guy.


On August 26 2013 08:53 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2013 08:49 babylon wrote:
Blast, now I'm like 1/4 on the posters I was wondering about.

I never would've imagined such posts and trash talk coming from such a friendly looking guy.

BisuDagger is a brood war fan and followed it for a long time and he is friendly too That all you need to know.


Thanks guys. I feel like we can move forward now that we all know that I am too a guy. <3
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
KanoCoke
Profile Joined June 2011
Japan863 Posts
August 26 2013 00:00 GMT
#6138
I have to wonder what Taeja would have done ceremony-wise if he won against Bomber that day and 4-0'd Jaedong. When he was winning, he had the happiest smile on his face and clapped at himself several times.
Will always cheer for: MMA Bomber Taeja Curious Life herO Zest
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
August 26 2013 00:04 GMT
#6139
On August 26 2013 08:58 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2013 08:43 babylon wrote:
BD's a guy? :O


I'm curious why you thought otherwise

Can't explain it well, something about the tone of posts. (It's not the Bisu pics, if that's what you're wondering.)

But I am pretty bad at this. I admit I briefly thought Wax was a girl even after seeing photographic evidence suggesting otherwise (though tbf the photo was blurry and combined with the long hair and the Waxangel username, I think my mistake was understandable).
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 26 2013 00:07 GMT
#6140
Waxangel isn't a girl?
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