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On August 26 2013 00:49 Lunareste wrote:
I honestly don't understand why there are so many Bomber fans out there. He's only ever won an MLG, but over the course of several years otherwise didn't work hard enough to get the results his potential would suggest that he could.
I mean it's great that he finally won something again because he shows flashes of being able to be a great player, but historically he's been so inconsistent that I have to believe he's just hit a hot streak which will eventually fan out.
I just hope he shows more personality in the future, because one reason that I've never really been a fan is precisely because he's never done that. That stone cold look when after he won today didn't help =/
Sorry, but who are you to say that? And I don't get how you can call him "inconsistent" when he finished high (top4) in several tournaments + is a Code S veteran. Just because he didn't have many Gold medals so far doesn't make him a lazy shallow player.
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On August 26 2013 01:00 Lunareste wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2013 00:59 NarutO wrote:On August 26 2013 00:58 Lunareste wrote:On August 26 2013 00:55 Linwelin wrote:On August 26 2013 00:49 Lunareste wrote:
I honestly don't understand why there are so many Bomber fans out there. He's only ever won an MLG, but over the course of several years otherwise didn't work hard enough to get the results his potential would suggest that he could.
I mean it's great that he finally won something again because he shows flashes of being able to be a great player, but historically he's been so inconsistent that I have to believe he's just hit a hot streak which will eventually fan out.
I just hope he shows more personality in the future, because one reason that I've never really been a fan is precisely because he's never done that. That stone cold look when after he won today didn't help =/ Are you fucking serious? Didn't work hard enough??? Both SaSe and Naniwa said that Bomber was one of the most hardworking players during their stay at the Startale house. Stop saying ridiculous stupid shit just because he beat some foreigner Also, people are not allowed to like a player because he doesn't have many big tournament wins? Who are you to say that? Lastly, if you ever watched Bomber's stream but also some of his interviews/old redbull events, you would see that Bomber actually has a really nice personality. He's not MC, but not every player can be like that. I can't actually believe you just wrote that Take a chill pill, it's just my opinion man. If he was so hard working, it would stand to reason that he would win more often, right? I didn't say that people aren't allowed to like him at all. I just said that: 1. given lack of results and 2. given lack of personality that I've seen from him (and I do miss a few of the smaller tournaments during weekends because of work) that I personally wasn't a big fan. Opinions can be wrong. "In my opinion" doesn't entitle you to say wrong stuff Lol alright forget it, we'll see what some of you have to say about Bomber being disappointed when he gets knocked out ro32 next season.
i like how you started off asking about why people are fans, but now after people give you good answers you're singling out the one guy who got mad at you, talking about bomber's results and trying to troll by predicting that he will lose in the future.
really shows that it's "just your opinion" and you're trying to have a classy, mature discussion
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well, we got a patch coming, so we'll see its impact on ZvT
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On August 26 2013 00:58 Lunareste wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2013 00:55 Linwelin wrote:On August 26 2013 00:49 Lunareste wrote:
I honestly don't understand why there are so many Bomber fans out there. He's only ever won an MLG, but over the course of several years otherwise didn't work hard enough to get the results his potential would suggest that he could.
I mean it's great that he finally won something again because he shows flashes of being able to be a great player, but historically he's been so inconsistent that I have to believe he's just hit a hot streak which will eventually fan out.
I just hope he shows more personality in the future, because one reason that I've never really been a fan is precisely because he's never done that. That stone cold look when after he won today didn't help =/ Are you fucking serious? Didn't work hard enough??? Both SaSe and Naniwa said that Bomber was one of the most hardworking players during their stay at the Startale house. Stop saying ridiculous stupid shit just because he beat some foreigner Also, people are not allowed to like a player because he doesn't have many big tournament wins? Who are you to say that? Lastly, if you ever watched Bomber's stream but also some of his interviews/old redbull events, you would see that Bomber actually has a really nice personality. He's not MC, but not every player can be like that. I can't actually believe you just wrote that Take a chill pill, it's just my opinion man. If he was so hard working, it would stand to reason that he would win more often, right? I didn't say that people aren't allowed to like him at all. I just said that: 1. given lack of results and 2. given lack of personality that I've seen from him (and I do miss a few of the smaller tournaments during weekends because of work) that I personally wasn't a big fan.
You don't have to be a fan, that's totally fine. Don't go around claiming stupid things though just because you don't know the whole situation and assume stuff based on that.
I don't really follow starcraft (besides Bomber games) lately so I personally don't know much about some of the recent top Kespa players in sc2. However, I don't go on forums and claim random stuff about them.
He's been quite consistent since his beginning in sc2 with many fairly high placements. You're right, he didn't win many tournaments but one of the reasons for that is that he's very well known for choking (see Bomber's law). It has nothing to do with not being hard working
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On August 26 2013 00:58 Lunareste wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2013 00:55 Linwelin wrote:On August 26 2013 00:49 Lunareste wrote:
I honestly don't understand why there are so many Bomber fans out there. He's only ever won an MLG, but over the course of several years otherwise didn't work hard enough to get the results his potential would suggest that he could.
I mean it's great that he finally won something again because he shows flashes of being able to be a great player, but historically he's been so inconsistent that I have to believe he's just hit a hot streak which will eventually fan out.
I just hope he shows more personality in the future, because one reason that I've never really been a fan is precisely because he's never done that. That stone cold look when after he won today didn't help =/ Are you fucking serious? Didn't work hard enough??? Both SaSe and Naniwa said that Bomber was one of the most hardworking players during their stay at the Startale house. Stop saying ridiculous stupid shit just because he beat some foreigner Also, people are not allowed to like a player because he doesn't have many big tournament wins? Who are you to say that? Lastly, if you ever watched Bomber's stream but also some of his interviews/old redbull events, you would see that Bomber actually has a really nice personality. He's not MC, but not every player can be like that. I can't actually believe you just wrote that Take a chill pill, it's just my opinion man. If he was so hard working, it would stand to reason that he would win more often, right? I didn't say that people aren't allowed to like him at all. I just said that: 1. given lack of results and 2. given lack of personality that I've seen from him (and I do miss a few of the smaller tournaments during weekends because of work) that I personally wasn't a big fan.
That's why it's so extremely awesome to see him finally win. He had every card laid out. He could've become someone like MVP 2 years ago, but because of nerves or what have you, he didn't. We saw him struggle, do human mistakes and fucking build himself up. Every loss was taken as a platform to evolve his skill. He never stagnated. TvP was streamlined to 2 builds thanks to him and MKP. He has done a lot. It's less visible to people that don't watch as much, or watch his stream, but he is such a great player and force in sc2 it's hard to not root for him if you know.
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On August 26 2013 01:00 Lunareste wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2013 00:59 NarutO wrote:On August 26 2013 00:58 Lunareste wrote:On August 26 2013 00:55 Linwelin wrote:On August 26 2013 00:49 Lunareste wrote:
I honestly don't understand why there are so many Bomber fans out there. He's only ever won an MLG, but over the course of several years otherwise didn't work hard enough to get the results his potential would suggest that he could.
I mean it's great that he finally won something again because he shows flashes of being able to be a great player, but historically he's been so inconsistent that I have to believe he's just hit a hot streak which will eventually fan out.
I just hope he shows more personality in the future, because one reason that I've never really been a fan is precisely because he's never done that. That stone cold look when after he won today didn't help =/ Are you fucking serious? Didn't work hard enough??? Both SaSe and Naniwa said that Bomber was one of the most hardworking players during their stay at the Startale house. Stop saying ridiculous stupid shit just because he beat some foreigner Also, people are not allowed to like a player because he doesn't have many big tournament wins? Who are you to say that? Lastly, if you ever watched Bomber's stream but also some of his interviews/old redbull events, you would see that Bomber actually has a really nice personality. He's not MC, but not every player can be like that. I can't actually believe you just wrote that Take a chill pill, it's just my opinion man. If he was so hard working, it would stand to reason that he would win more often, right? I didn't say that people aren't allowed to like him at all. I just said that: 1. given lack of results and 2. given lack of personality that I've seen from him (and I do miss a few of the smaller tournaments during weekends because of work) that I personally wasn't a big fan. Opinions can be wrong. "In my opinion" doesn't entitle you to say wrong stuff Lol alright forget it, we'll see what some of you have to say about Bomber playing in* ro32 next season.
Yeah, will be fun to watch him crush those players too.
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Russian Federation40190 Posts
On August 26 2013 01:00 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2013 00:54 Tanzklaue wrote:On August 26 2013 00:49 Baroninthetree wrote:On August 26 2013 00:43 Tanzklaue wrote:On August 26 2013 00:42 Baroninthetree wrote:On August 26 2013 00:37 Tanzklaue wrote:On August 26 2013 00:35 Salient wrote:On August 26 2013 00:29 NarutO wrote:On August 26 2013 00:28 Salient wrote:On August 26 2013 00:25 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
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Old story: they should have trained harder and played better. Scarlett might be the second best player in the world. She barely lost to Bomber. I wish we could see her play Taeja. How does that even make sense. Do you believe Bomber ist he best player in the world? :x Not to mention that a close-loss to him doesn't make you second best in the world... Taeja also lost close to him. Also 2nd best? :x It was the world championship finals. Winning it gives Bomber a good claim to be the best player in the world. taeja and inno both have better TvZ and at least taeja is better at TvP. it's really only TvT in which bomber is better than taeja and inno, which sucks when they meet head to head. I doubt inno has better t v z, we really only see him playing soulkey. As t v p, bomber is absolutely a beast, no doubt he would stormed first 4-0 if he advanced. lol, inno having worse tvz than bomber? you just disqualified for every discusiion ever. you also make it sound like soulkey is bad at zvt. he is probably the best zvt player on the planet. I said I doubt inno had better. And I never buy this soulkey hyper. He really only beat MKP in z v t in a long time. He lost to supernova for god sake, how can anyone claim he is that good. again, you make it sound like supernova is bad. supernova played the tournament of his life in the last OSL. the point still stands that SK is much better at TvZ than Scarlett, and that inno still has to be beaten in TvZ by anyone other than SK. as much as I recall, he didn't lose a TvZ series since the WCS korea season 1 finals. as far as i can remember innovation only lost games against zergs is because of all-ins .. the closest player i have seen up to date to beat innovation in a zvt without shinanigans is SK ... and SK already beated innovation 2 times as i remember in a macro game without relying on roachbane ..
Actually 1st of those 2 games was SK faking roach speed, while going 2 hatch muta and playing really beautiful ZvT there is. 2nd one i think everyone have seen and it was just 10 minute death animation for Innovation.
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On August 26 2013 01:00 Lunareste wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2013 00:59 NarutO wrote:On August 26 2013 00:58 Lunareste wrote:On August 26 2013 00:55 Linwelin wrote:On August 26 2013 00:49 Lunareste wrote:
I honestly don't understand why there are so many Bomber fans out there. He's only ever won an MLG, but over the course of several years otherwise didn't work hard enough to get the results his potential would suggest that he could.
I mean it's great that he finally won something again because he shows flashes of being able to be a great player, but historically he's been so inconsistent that I have to believe he's just hit a hot streak which will eventually fan out.
I just hope he shows more personality in the future, because one reason that I've never really been a fan is precisely because he's never done that. That stone cold look when after he won today didn't help =/ Are you fucking serious? Didn't work hard enough??? Both SaSe and Naniwa said that Bomber was one of the most hardworking players during their stay at the Startale house. Stop saying ridiculous stupid shit just because he beat some foreigner Also, people are not allowed to like a player because he doesn't have many big tournament wins? Who are you to say that? Lastly, if you ever watched Bomber's stream but also some of his interviews/old redbull events, you would see that Bomber actually has a really nice personality. He's not MC, but not every player can be like that. I can't actually believe you just wrote that Take a chill pill, it's just my opinion man. If he was so hard working, it would stand to reason that he would win more often, right? I didn't say that people aren't allowed to like him at all. I just said that: 1. given lack of results and 2. given lack of personality that I've seen from him (and I do miss a few of the smaller tournaments during weekends because of work) that I personally wasn't a big fan. Opinions can be wrong. "In my opinion" doesn't entitle you to say wrong stuff Lol alright forget it, we'll see what some of you have to say about Bomber being disappointing when he gets knocked out ro32 next season.
The competition is extremely fierce, you know. Flash never went beyond RO16 so far in Code S/OSL despite being very good, are you going to call him lazy for that?
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On August 26 2013 00:36 Wintex wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2013 00:33 lichter wrote:
What the fuck
this actually happened?
ugggghhhh <3 give me my reward!
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/jE00B24.png)
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On August 26 2013 00:56 Linwelin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2013 00:54 Orek wrote:
No offense to any race, but
Terran being the champion
Zerg taking the 2nd
Protoss being the 3rd race
really fits my image of Starcraft in general. You're right, the last year and a half of WoL definitely didn't have many many zergs on top! edit: sorry for doublepost
in WoL counting the premier tournaments we had
37T Championships
31Z Championships
26P Championships
In Hots we have
9T Championships
5Z Championships
3P Championships
It seems there's some ground for his statements after all...
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United States23455 Posts
On August 26 2013 01:00 Lunareste wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2013 00:59 NarutO wrote:On August 26 2013 00:58 Lunareste wrote:On August 26 2013 00:55 Linwelin wrote:On August 26 2013 00:49 Lunareste wrote:
I honestly don't understand why there are so many Bomber fans out there. He's only ever won an MLG, but over the course of several years otherwise didn't work hard enough to get the results his potential would suggest that he could.
I mean it's great that he finally won something again because he shows flashes of being able to be a great player, but historically he's been so inconsistent that I have to believe he's just hit a hot streak which will eventually fan out.
I just hope he shows more personality in the future, because one reason that I've never really been a fan is precisely because he's never done that. That stone cold look when after he won today didn't help =/ Are you fucking serious? Didn't work hard enough??? Both SaSe and Naniwa said that Bomber was one of the most hardworking players during their stay at the Startale house. Stop saying ridiculous stupid shit just because he beat some foreigner Also, people are not allowed to like a player because he doesn't have many big tournament wins? Who are you to say that? Lastly, if you ever watched Bomber's stream but also some of his interviews/old redbull events, you would see that Bomber actually has a really nice personality. He's not MC, but not every player can be like that. I can't actually believe you just wrote that Take a chill pill, it's just my opinion man. If he was so hard working, it would stand to reason that he would win more often, right? I didn't say that people aren't allowed to like him at all. I just said that: 1. given lack of results and 2. given lack of personality that I've seen from him (and I do miss a few of the smaller tournaments during weekends because of work) that I personally wasn't a big fan. Opinions can be wrong. "In my opinion" doesn't entitle you to say wrong stuff Lol alright forget it, we'll see what some of you have to say about Bomber being disappointing when he gets knocked out ro32 next season.
Bomber's SC2 career is basically that Chumbawumba song so if he does get knocked down, He'll get up again. Because they're never gonna keep him down.
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On August 26 2013 00:48 Bowzar wrote:
Im surprised Bomber is so popular he looks so bored everytime I see him.
Check out his message in his fan club, or the videos of him with ST_Legend, even when i went to see him play in the RO16 of WCS Kr season 1 i managed to have a couple picture wit him and all that, he might look bored but he's very friendly and is one of the few koreans that actually show they care about their fans, more than just a sidenote on an interview.
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On August 26 2013 00:57 PPN wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2013 00:16 StarStruck wrote:On August 26 2013 00:14 goody153 wrote:Poll: Will JD ever win 1st place ?Of course Not! (43) 100% 43 total votes Your vote: Will JD ever win 1st place ? (Vote): Of course Not!
Oh he will in time. He's getting closer and closer to it everyday. If he halves the distance everytime, he actually never reaches it... LOGIC. MIND BLOWN.
Jaedong is getting quite comfortable against Protoss players now. I have no reason to believe his T and Z match-ups will fall off comparable to that of the issues he faced against Protoss. Jaedong is a legitimate threat now.
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On August 26 2013 00:58 Musicus wrote:
I am a huge Jaedong fanboy and really sad right now, but stop saying Bomber has no personality or wasn't happy. He was happy, not everyone will do backflips. He is a really cool dude, as he has shown on several occasions. For example when he popped on Khaldors stream and chatted with the viewers, casted games and was super funny in every way.
I just find it weird that someone that work as hard as Bomber can have such a weak reaction after winning a major tournament. Must be culture. Koreans obviously care a lot otherwise they wouldnt practice their asses off but some of them when they win just look like they dont give a fuck (Innovation, Alive, Bomber, Yoda etc) its weird.
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Bomber bombed Bomber's law, two years day to day of the beginning of it, Bomber>Bomber's law.
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United States15275 Posts
For anyone wondering, Bomber's Law is being put in retirement. The joke is pretty much defunct now.
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Wow...jaedong...  congratulations bomber :/
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On August 26 2013 01:07 Bowzar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2013 00:58 Musicus wrote:
I am a huge Jaedong fanboy and really sad right now, but stop saying Bomber has no personality or wasn't happy. He was happy, not everyone will do backflips. He is a really cool dude, as he has shown on several occasions. For example when he popped on Khaldors stream and chatted with the viewers, casted games and was super funny in every way. I just find it weird that someone that work as hard as Bomber can have such a weak reaction after winning a major tournament. Must be culture. Koreans obviously care a lot otherwise they wouldnt practice their asses off but some of them when they win just look like they dont give a fuck (Innovation, Alive, Bomber, Yoda etc) its weird.
i would react the same way, bro. i don't think it's dignified to pump my fists and whoop over winning a competition; the win speaks for itself.
bomber can celebrate however he wants, so can anyone else, it's not really a big deal or anyone's concern
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On August 26 2013 01:05 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2013 00:36 Wintex wrote:On August 26 2013 00:33 lichter wrote:
What the fuck
this actually happened?
ugggghhhh <3 give me my reward!
i love you
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On August 26 2013 01:08 CosmicSpiral wrote:
For anyone wondering, Bomber's Law is being put in retirement. The joke is pretty much defunct now.
Slap Wax if he brings it up again. or make heyoka slap him.
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Congratulations to Bomber, he's one of the few Koreans I enjoy watching, I used to watch his stream a long time ago.
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