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On August 26 2013 00:49 Lunareste wrote:
I honestly don't understand why there are so many Bomber fans out there. He's only ever won an MLG, but over the course of several years otherwise didn't work hard enough to get the results his potential would suggest that he could.
I mean it's great that he finally won something again because he shows flashes of being able to be a great player, but historically he's been so inconsistent that I have to believe he's just hit a hot streak which will eventually fan out.
I just hope he shows more personality in the future, because one reason that I've never really been a fan is precisely because he's never done that. That stone cold look when after he won today didn't help =/
It's hard to explain. He shows dominance and entertains like no one else. Sorry for giving such a bad answer. He just is the perfect player in my eyes. :D
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On August 26 2013 00:42 Baroninthetree wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2013 00:37 Tanzklaue wrote:On August 26 2013 00:35 Salient wrote:On August 26 2013 00:29 NarutO wrote:On August 26 2013 00:28 Salient wrote:On August 26 2013 00:25 gingerfluffmuff wrote:On August 26 2013 00:23 dcsoda wrote:On August 26 2013 00:22 ForTehDarkseid wrote:On August 26 2013 00:17 Bagi wrote:
Scarletts ZvT was miles ahead of Jaedongs.
She could've made the finals great, but alas. ZvZ would be better than ZvT? You mad. Games would've probably been closer and the storyline of foreigner in the finals would've made it much better for me at least. Old story: they should have trained harder and played better. Scarlett might be the second best player in the world. She barely lost to Bomber. I wish we could see her play Taeja. How does that even make sense. Do you believe Bomber ist he best player in the world? :x Not to mention that a close-loss to him doesn't make you second best in the world... Taeja also lost close to him. Also 2nd best? :x It was the world championship finals. Winning it gives Bomber a good claim to be the best player in the world. taeja and inno both have better TvZ and at least taeja is better at TvP. it's really only TvT in which bomber is better than taeja and inno, which sucks when they meet head to head. I doubt inno has better t v z, we really only see him playing soulkey. As t v p, bomber is absolutely a beast, no doubt he would stormed first 4-0 if he advanced.
the general sentiment of watching SoulKey v Innovation is that SK plays the best ZvT there is and still loses. IvZ is just out of this world, utter domination
All 3 MUs of Bomber are so well-rounded these days but it doesnt come off as "dominant" to me yet. Maybe it't because HotS is even more brutally unforgiving? For references, watch his games against DRG, Rain (MLG), mvp, byun (GSL) to see how he defined domination back then
Edit: for those non-believers, watch these games too to see how much of in-game personality that Bomber got. I mean, the guy fucking dropped 200 mules 15 mins before the game even ended and showed us why later. Watch Bomber v mvp on TDA (Gstl) as well, even though he lost.
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On August 26 2013 00:54 Badfatpanda wrote:
I'm so unbelievably happy right now. My favorite player finally won a tournament again and aLive had such a damn good showing. Huge congrats to Bomber.
I'm going to be the most annoying person on TL this week reminding people of how aLive 2-0d the reigning OSL champ and 2-0 Scarlett who many in this thread think is the second best player in the world somehow, then barely lost 2-3 to First.
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On August 26 2013 00:16 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2013 00:14 goody153 wrote:Poll: Will JD ever win 1st place ?Of course Not! (43) 100% 43 total votes Your vote: Will JD ever win 1st place ? (Vote): Of course Not!
Oh he will in time. He's getting closer and closer to it everyday.
If he halves the distance everytime, he actually never reaches it... LOGIC. MIND BLOWN.
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On August 26 2013 00:57 Darkhoarse wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2013 00:54 Badfatpanda wrote:
I'm so unbelievably happy right now. My favorite player finally won a tournament again and aLive had such a damn good showing. Huge congrats to Bomber. I'm going to be the most annoying person on TL this week reminding people of how aLive 2-0d the reigning OSL champ and 2-0 Scarlett who many in this thread think is the second best player in the world somehow, then barely lost 2-3 to First.
Alive is invisible and happy with that, he can be best player in the world and nobody will notice.
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On August 26 2013 00:55 Linwelin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2013 00:49 Lunareste wrote:
I honestly don't understand why there are so many Bomber fans out there. He's only ever won an MLG, but over the course of several years otherwise didn't work hard enough to get the results his potential would suggest that he could.
I mean it's great that he finally won something again because he shows flashes of being able to be a great player, but historically he's been so inconsistent that I have to believe he's just hit a hot streak which will eventually fan out.
I just hope he shows more personality in the future, because one reason that I've never really been a fan is precisely because he's never done that. That stone cold look when after he won today didn't help =/ Are you fucking serious? Didn't work hard enough??? Both SaSe and Naniwa said that Bomber was one of the most hardworking players during their stay at the Startale house. Stop saying ridiculous stupid shit just because he beat some foreigner Also, people are not allowed to like a player because he doesn't have many big tournament wins? Who are you to say that? Lastly, if you ever watched Bomber's stream but also some of his interviews/old redbull events, you would see that Bomber actually has a really nice personality. He's not MC, but not every player can be like that. I can't actually believe you just wrote that
Take a chill pill, it's just my opinion man.
If he was so hard working, it would stand to reason that he would win more often, right?
I didn't say that people aren't allowed to like him at all. I just said that: 1. given lack of results and 2. given lack of personality that I've seen from him (and I do miss a few of the smaller tournaments during weekends because of work) that I personally wasn't a big fan.
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I thought they said second best zerg?
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I am a huge Jaedong fanboy and really sad right now, but stop saying Bomber has no personality or wasn't happy. He was happy, not everyone will do backflips. He is a really cool dude, as he has shown on several occasions. For example when he popped on Khaldors stream and chatted with the viewers, casted games and was super funny in every way.
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On August 26 2013 00:56 Arceus wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2013 00:42 Baroninthetree wrote:On August 26 2013 00:37 Tanzklaue wrote:On August 26 2013 00:35 Salient wrote:On August 26 2013 00:29 NarutO wrote:On August 26 2013 00:28 Salient wrote:On August 26 2013 00:25 gingerfluffmuff wrote:On August 26 2013 00:23 dcsoda wrote:On August 26 2013 00:22 ForTehDarkseid wrote:On August 26 2013 00:17 Bagi wrote:
Scarletts ZvT was miles ahead of Jaedongs.
She could've made the finals great, but alas. ZvZ would be better than ZvT? You mad. Games would've probably been closer and the storyline of foreigner in the finals would've made it much better for me at least. Old story: they should have trained harder and played better. Scarlett might be the second best player in the world. She barely lost to Bomber. I wish we could see her play Taeja. How does that even make sense. Do you believe Bomber ist he best player in the world? :x Not to mention that a close-loss to him doesn't make you second best in the world... Taeja also lost close to him. Also 2nd best? :x It was the world championship finals. Winning it gives Bomber a good claim to be the best player in the world. taeja and inno both have better TvZ and at least taeja is better at TvP. it's really only TvT in which bomber is better than taeja and inno, which sucks when they meet head to head. I doubt inno has better t v z, we really only see him playing soulkey. As t v p, bomber is absolutely a beast, no doubt he would stormed first 4-0 if he advanced. the general sentiment of watching SoulKey v Innovation is that SK plays the best ZvT there is and still loses. IvZ is just out of this world, utter domination All 3 MUs of Bomber are so well-rounded these days but it doesnt come off as "dominant" to me yet. Maybe it't because HotS is even more brutally unforgiving? For references, watch his games against DRG, Rain (MLG), mvp, byun (GSL) to see how he defined domination back then
People bandwagon too easily. People thought Maru was going to hit this one out of the park. The entire time I thought to myself "sure he won the OSL, no small feat.. but none of his games were particularly impressive".
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On August 26 2013 00:55 Linwelin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2013 00:49 Lunareste wrote:
I honestly don't understand why there are so many Bomber fans out there. He's only ever won an MLG, but over the course of several years otherwise didn't work hard enough to get the results his potential would suggest that he could.
I mean it's great that he finally won something again because he shows flashes of being able to be a great player, but historically he's been so inconsistent that I have to believe he's just hit a hot streak which will eventually fan out.
I just hope he shows more personality in the future, because one reason that I've never really been a fan is precisely because he's never done that. That stone cold look when after he won today didn't help =/ Are you fucking serious? Didn't work hard enough??? Both SaSe and Naniwa said that Bomber was one of the most hardworking players during their stay at the Startale house. Stop saying ridiculous stupid shit just because he beat some foreigner Also, people are not allowed to like a player because he doesn't have many big tournament wins? Who are you to say that? Lastly, if you ever watched Bomber's stream but also some of his interviews/old redbull events, you would see that Bomber actually has a really nice personality. He's not MC, but not every player can be like that. I can't actually believe you just wrote that
don't worry about it  just a guy trying to make a claim without the knowledge or evidence to back it up
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On August 26 2013 00:58 Lunareste wrote:
If he was so hard working, it would stand to reason that he would win more often, right?
um... no?
i could work night and day for the rest of my life on becoming a basketball player, but i would never be able to play in the NBA because i simply don't have the talent and skill
kind of a silly statement
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On August 26 2013 00:55 Linwelin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2013 00:49 Lunareste wrote:
I honestly don't understand why there are so many Bomber fans out there. He's only ever won an MLG, but over the course of several years otherwise didn't work hard enough to get the results his potential would suggest that he could.
I mean it's great that he finally won something again because he shows flashes of being able to be a great player, but historically he's been so inconsistent that I have to believe he's just hit a hot streak which will eventually fan out.
I just hope he shows more personality in the future, because one reason that I've never really been a fan is precisely because he's never done that. That stone cold look when after he won today didn't help =/ Are you fucking serious? Didn't work hard enough??? Both SaSe and Naniwa said that Bomber was one of the most hardworking players during their stay at the Startale house. Stop saying ridiculous stupid shit just because he beat some foreigner Also, people are not allowed to like a player because he doesn't have many big tournament wins? Who are you to say that? Lastly, if you ever watched Bomber's stream but also some of his interviews/old redbull events, you would see that Bomber actually has a really nice personality. He's not MC, but not every player can be like that. I can't actually believe you just wrote that
Not to mention, he ALWAYS MANNER MULES. That's personality, even if it's a cocky one.
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On August 26 2013 00:58 Lunareste wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2013 00:55 Linwelin wrote:On August 26 2013 00:49 Lunareste wrote:
I honestly don't understand why there are so many Bomber fans out there. He's only ever won an MLG, but over the course of several years otherwise didn't work hard enough to get the results his potential would suggest that he could.
I mean it's great that he finally won something again because he shows flashes of being able to be a great player, but historically he's been so inconsistent that I have to believe he's just hit a hot streak which will eventually fan out.
I just hope he shows more personality in the future, because one reason that I've never really been a fan is precisely because he's never done that. That stone cold look when after he won today didn't help =/ Are you fucking serious? Didn't work hard enough??? Both SaSe and Naniwa said that Bomber was one of the most hardworking players during their stay at the Startale house. Stop saying ridiculous stupid shit just because he beat some foreigner Also, people are not allowed to like a player because he doesn't have many big tournament wins? Who are you to say that? Lastly, if you ever watched Bomber's stream but also some of his interviews/old redbull events, you would see that Bomber actually has a really nice personality. He's not MC, but not every player can be like that. I can't actually believe you just wrote that Take a chill pill, it's just my opinion man. If he was so hard working, it would stand to reason that he would win more often, right? I didn't say that people aren't allowed to like him at all. I just said that: 1. given lack of results and 2. given lack of personality that I've seen from him (and I do miss a few of the smaller tournaments during weekends because of work) that I personally wasn't a big fan.
Opinions can be wrong. "In my opinion" doesn't entitle you to say wrong stuff
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On August 26 2013 00:57 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2013 00:57 Darkhoarse wrote:On August 26 2013 00:54 Badfatpanda wrote:
I'm so unbelievably happy right now. My favorite player finally won a tournament again and aLive had such a damn good showing. Huge congrats to Bomber. I'm going to be the most annoying person on TL this week reminding people of how aLive 2-0d the reigning OSL champ and 2-0 Scarlett who many in this thread think is the second best player in the world somehow, then barely lost 2-3 to First. Alive is invisible and happy with that, he can be best player in the world and nobody will notice.
... But he's funny and good TT
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On August 26 2013 00:54 Tanzklaue wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2013 00:49 Baroninthetree wrote:On August 26 2013 00:43 Tanzklaue wrote:On August 26 2013 00:42 Baroninthetree wrote:On August 26 2013 00:37 Tanzklaue wrote:On August 26 2013 00:35 Salient wrote:On August 26 2013 00:29 NarutO wrote:On August 26 2013 00:28 Salient wrote:On August 26 2013 00:25 gingerfluffmuff wrote:On August 26 2013 00:23 dcsoda wrote:
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Games would've probably been closer and the storyline of foreigner in the finals would've made it much better for me at least. Old story: they should have trained harder and played better. Scarlett might be the second best player in the world. She barely lost to Bomber. I wish we could see her play Taeja. How does that even make sense. Do you believe Bomber ist he best player in the world? :x Not to mention that a close-loss to him doesn't make you second best in the world... Taeja also lost close to him. Also 2nd best? :x It was the world championship finals. Winning it gives Bomber a good claim to be the best player in the world. taeja and inno both have better TvZ and at least taeja is better at TvP. it's really only TvT in which bomber is better than taeja and inno, which sucks when they meet head to head. I doubt inno has better t v z, we really only see him playing soulkey. As t v p, bomber is absolutely a beast, no doubt he would stormed first 4-0 if he advanced. lol, inno having worse tvz than bomber? you just disqualified for every discusiion ever. you also make it sound like soulkey is bad at zvt. he is probably the best zvt player on the planet. I said I doubt inno had better. And I never buy this soulkey hyper. He really only beat MKP in z v t in a long time. He lost to supernova for god sake, how can anyone claim he is that good. again, you make it sound like supernova is bad. supernova played the tournament of his life in the last OSL. the point still stands that SK is much better at TvZ than Scarlett, and that inno still has to be beaten in TvZ by anyone other than SK. as much as I recall, he didn't lose a TvZ series since the WCS korea season 1 finals.
as far as i can remember innovation only lost games against zergs is because of all-ins .. the closest player i have seen up to date to beat innovation in a zvt without shinanigans is SK ... and SK already beated innovation 2 times as i remember in a macro game without relying on roachbane ..
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On August 26 2013 00:58 Musicus wrote:
I am a huge Jaedong fanboy and really sad right now, but stop saying Bomber has no personality or wasn't happy. He was happy, not everyone will do backflips. He is a really cool dude, as he has shown on several occasions. For example when he popped on Khaldors stream and chatted with the viewers, casted games and was super funny in every way.
Good on you for being a good sport man
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On August 26 2013 00:58 Lunareste wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2013 00:55 Linwelin wrote:On August 26 2013 00:49 Lunareste wrote:
I honestly don't understand why there are so many Bomber fans out there. He's only ever won an MLG, but over the course of several years otherwise didn't work hard enough to get the results his potential would suggest that he could.
I mean it's great that he finally won something again because he shows flashes of being able to be a great player, but historically he's been so inconsistent that I have to believe he's just hit a hot streak which will eventually fan out.
I just hope he shows more personality in the future, because one reason that I've never really been a fan is precisely because he's never done that. That stone cold look when after he won today didn't help =/ Are you fucking serious? Didn't work hard enough??? Both SaSe and Naniwa said that Bomber was one of the most hardworking players during their stay at the Startale house. Stop saying ridiculous stupid shit just because he beat some foreigner Also, people are not allowed to like a player because he doesn't have many big tournament wins? Who are you to say that? Lastly, if you ever watched Bomber's stream but also some of his interviews/old redbull events, you would see that Bomber actually has a really nice personality. He's not MC, but not every player can be like that. I can't actually believe you just wrote that Take a chill pill, it's just my opinion man. If he was so hard working, it would stand to reason that he would win more often, right? I didn't say that people aren't allowed to like him at all. I just said that: 1. given lack of results and 2. given lack of personality that I've seen from him (and I do miss a few of the smaller tournaments during weekends because of work) that I personally wasn't a big fan.
Lol, do you even read what you wrote? You didn't just say you weren't a fan. You stated that you didn't know why anyone would be a fan of Bomber and then pull stuff out of your ass. That is why you are getting negative feedback, deal with it.
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On August 26 2013 00:59 NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2013 00:58 Lunareste wrote:On August 26 2013 00:55 Linwelin wrote:On August 26 2013 00:49 Lunareste wrote:
I honestly don't understand why there are so many Bomber fans out there. He's only ever won an MLG, but over the course of several years otherwise didn't work hard enough to get the results his potential would suggest that he could.
I mean it's great that he finally won something again because he shows flashes of being able to be a great player, but historically he's been so inconsistent that I have to believe he's just hit a hot streak which will eventually fan out.
I just hope he shows more personality in the future, because one reason that I've never really been a fan is precisely because he's never done that. That stone cold look when after he won today didn't help =/ Are you fucking serious? Didn't work hard enough??? Both SaSe and Naniwa said that Bomber was one of the most hardworking players during their stay at the Startale house. Stop saying ridiculous stupid shit just because he beat some foreigner Also, people are not allowed to like a player because he doesn't have many big tournament wins? Who are you to say that? Lastly, if you ever watched Bomber's stream but also some of his interviews/old redbull events, you would see that Bomber actually has a really nice personality. He's not MC, but not every player can be like that. I can't actually believe you just wrote that Take a chill pill, it's just my opinion man. If he was so hard working, it would stand to reason that he would win more often, right? I didn't say that people aren't allowed to like him at all. I just said that: 1. given lack of results and 2. given lack of personality that I've seen from him (and I do miss a few of the smaller tournaments during weekends because of work) that I personally wasn't a big fan. Opinions can be wrong. "In my opinion" doesn't entitle you to say wrong stuff
Lol alright forget it, we'll see what some of you have to say about Bomber being disappointing when he gets knocked out ro32 next season.
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