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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12406 Posts
August 23 2013 15:14 GMT
#2861
On August 24 2013 00:13 Doko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 00:11 Nebuchad wrote:
Ah we're entering my favourite time of TL, the moment when the terran goes all-in and gets praised, ten seconds after the moment a protoss did the same thing and got shat on for it.


Hard to blame terrans for all inning when all they have to look for in 20+ minute games is superheated plasma and bad weather with almost no hope of survival.


Yeah, I was really blaming Bomber in that post, solid reading.
No will to live, no wish to die
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
August 23 2013 15:14 GMT
#2862
On August 24 2013 00:13 leo23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 00:10 Teoita wrote:
On August 24 2013 00:08 DJHelium wrote:
Does Grubby hold that if he doesn't waste the storms on the vikings?


It's not that he wasted the storms, storming vikings his fine but you need to make sure to save about 2 colossi. Grubby wasn't positioned very well so he lost 3, which wasn't enough.


what really happened is that grubby made some brilliant forcefields on the ramp but I don't think he banked on bomber bum rushing the colossi even though 80 percent of his army was behind the forcefields. then grubby panicked and stormed the vikings (which was the right decision) but the colossi shouldn't have been that close to the fight in the first place.


Yep, very true.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
August 23 2013 15:14 GMT
#2863
On August 24 2013 00:13 Noocta wrote:
I honestly can't watch starcraft with commentary anymore.
I can't stand the style used to do it. To much effort to stay talking ALL the time, I lose my breath just by listening to it.

Watch KR stream. You'll pass out.
The Bomber boy
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
August 23 2013 15:14 GMT
#2864
typical reaper opening from Bomber
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
August 23 2013 15:14 GMT
#2865
On August 24 2013 00:13 Noocta wrote:
I honestly can't watch starcraft with commentary anymore.
I can't stand the style used to do it. To much effort to stay talking ALL the time, I lose my breath just by listening to it.

Every so often, I feel the same and like to mute the stream and add commentary at my own pace. It may be wrong, but at least I'm not in a state of nausea or confusion.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
August 23 2013 15:15 GMT
#2866
Also high five to Rotterdam for liking Templar openings better :D
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 23 2013 15:15 GMT
#2867
On August 24 2013 00:11 Shellshock1122 wrote:
WCS Season 2 Finals Day 1 Ro16
kr (T)Bomber vs. nl (P)Grubby
Game 2 (1-0)
Map: Bel'Shir Vestige

0:00
Bomber spawns in the bottom right
Grubby spawns in the top left

1:40
gateway first for Grubby
rax first for Bomber
gas for Bomber

2:00
gas for Grubby
cybernetics core for Grubby
reaper for Bomber
probe scout from Grubby sees the gas of Bomber

3:00
reactor for Bomber
CC on the low ground for Bomber
nexus for Grubby
MSC for Grubby

4:00
2nd gas for Grubby
probe of Grubby harassing the building scv of Bomber
2nd rax for Bomber
reaper scouts the nexus of Grubby

5:00
robo for Grubby
bunker in the natural of Bomber
2nd gas for Bomber
stim research started for Bomber
observer for Grubby
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DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
August 23 2013 15:15 GMT
#2868
On August 24 2013 00:13 leo23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 00:10 Teoita wrote:
On August 24 2013 00:08 DJHelium wrote:
Does Grubby hold that if he doesn't waste the storms on the vikings?


It's not that he wasted the storms, storming vikings his fine but you need to make sure to save about 2 colossi. Grubby wasn't positioned very well so he lost 3, which wasn't enough.


what really happened is that grubby made some brilliant forcefields on the ramp but I don't think he banked on bomber bum rushing the colossi even though 80 percent of his army was behind the forcefields. then grubby panicked and stormed the vikings (which was the right decision) but the colossi shouldn't have been that close to the fight in the first place.


Seems correct.

The other option would be to suicide his colossus to deal damage to bio, then use the storm on the bio. But your way seems better.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10138 Posts
August 23 2013 15:15 GMT
#2869
On August 24 2013 00:13 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 00:11 bo1b wrote:
On August 24 2013 00:09 Wintex wrote:
On August 24 2013 00:08 Noocta wrote:
On August 24 2013 00:06 Wintex wrote:
On August 24 2013 00:05 AgentW wrote:
On August 23 2013 23:59 Wintex wrote:
On August 23 2013 23:57 AgentW wrote:
On August 23 2013 23:56 Wintex wrote:
On August 23 2013 23:55 AgentW wrote:
[quote]
I can second this. TL's blocked where I work, and I presume twitch too. Haven't checked. Shellbot's saved me many a time.

Sadly, today's my last day of vacation before returning on Monday D:

ugh... that sucks.

call in sick hahaeahueaheuaheuahe

1. It's my first day back in quite some time.
2. I don't have the standing to call in sick. And I'm not salaried. And I like money.

Aww.. Norway is pretty fuckin' imba. If you are sick, call in and get 100% cash flow. of course, if I live here later on, I'll try to become sick to watch shit I want 'cause I'm an asshole.

Well, I'm not a full time employee, I'm still a student. If I don't work, I don't get paid.

EDIT: Norway sounds nice. Dunno if I'd want to live there, but that's a nice perk.

It's a depressing country. I am looking at studying in South Korea myself..

Edit: GL working btw! Just remember to have a balance.


You know South Korea has like the highest suicide rate of any country ?
Not sure if it's the best choice to fight depression.

hahaha, yeah I know. I like how hardworking they are.


AWW YISSSSSSS

On August 23 2013 23:59 Wintex wrote:
On August 23 2013 23:57 AgentW wrote:
On August 23 2013 23:56 Wintex wrote:
On August 23 2013 23:55 AgentW wrote:
On August 23 2013 23:53 Wintex wrote:
On August 23 2013 23:53 Plansix wrote:
On August 23 2013 23:51 c0ldfusion wrote:
On August 23 2013 23:50 VisonKai wrote:
[quote]

I think it'll be mostly over by the time most Americans get home from work/school. I took today off to watch this.

Seriously? why can't people just watch at work?

Some of us work at law firms that do not let you stream things to your PC, or access personal email. There is no watching at work.

Wow, I feel bad for you. Thank God for Shellbot.

I can second this. TL's blocked where I work, and I presume twitch too. Haven't checked. Shellbot's saved me many a time.

Sadly, today's my last day of vacation before returning on Monday D:

ugh... that sucks.

call in sick hahaeahueaheuaheuahe

1. It's my first day back in quite some time.
2. I don't have the standing to call in sick. And I'm not salaried. And I like money.

Aww.. Norway is pretty fuckin' imba. If you are sick, call in and get 100% cash flow. of course, if I live here later on, I'll try to become sick to watch shit I want 'cause I'm an asshole.

Does not compute :D

It's a problem in Norway. I've lost motivation to achieve because 90 % of Norway is depressing. I'm a student in the best school of the country and people shit on school trips tailored for media students. HOW THE TITS...

Thank God our class was basically halved this year. I hope I do well.

Let me help relieve your stress, giving me saturday as bomber fan number 1.
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
August 23 2013 15:15 GMT
#2870
I dont see how toss can win against this. Even if there is no collosi and vikings anymore in that fight, terran wins easy. terra can only lose if there are collossi but no vikings. Just make 4 more vikings than it should be, safest/best chance to win.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
August 23 2013 15:15 GMT
#2871
Shellbot fuck you.
The Bomber boy
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
August 23 2013 15:15 GMT
#2872
On August 24 2013 00:13 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 00:11 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On August 24 2013 00:10 TheDwf wrote:
On August 24 2013 00:10 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On August 24 2013 00:09 Fjodorov wrote:
On August 24 2013 00:08 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I dislike Bomber's playstyle


recognize when you have a window and go for the kill? mm its lame


Nah, his entire gameplan was to do this. 5 rax before third CC, etc.

And?


And I dislike it? The same way people hated 3 base all ins in PvZ in WoL. Works the same way.

A win is a win. You don’t get extra points for game length.


And I'm not questioning that. I just don't enjoy watching that type of game. There's nothing wrong with that, lol. The difference between this and WoL 3 base all ins in PvZ is that protoss had no way to win against zerg lategame and terran does against protoss.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
August 23 2013 15:16 GMT
#2873
On August 24 2013 00:15 Teoita wrote:
Also high five to Rotterdam for liking Templar openings better :D


That seems to be more of a trend recently.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
August 23 2013 15:16 GMT
#2874
On August 24 2013 00:15 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 00:13 Wintex wrote:
On August 24 2013 00:11 bo1b wrote:
On August 24 2013 00:09 Wintex wrote:
On August 24 2013 00:08 Noocta wrote:
On August 24 2013 00:06 Wintex wrote:
On August 24 2013 00:05 AgentW wrote:
On August 23 2013 23:59 Wintex wrote:
On August 23 2013 23:57 AgentW wrote:
On August 23 2013 23:56 Wintex wrote:
[quote]
ugh... that sucks.

call in sick hahaeahueaheuaheuahe

1. It's my first day back in quite some time.
2. I don't have the standing to call in sick. And I'm not salaried. And I like money.

Aww.. Norway is pretty fuckin' imba. If you are sick, call in and get 100% cash flow. of course, if I live here later on, I'll try to become sick to watch shit I want 'cause I'm an asshole.

Well, I'm not a full time employee, I'm still a student. If I don't work, I don't get paid.

EDIT: Norway sounds nice. Dunno if I'd want to live there, but that's a nice perk.

It's a depressing country. I am looking at studying in South Korea myself..

Edit: GL working btw! Just remember to have a balance.


You know South Korea has like the highest suicide rate of any country ?
Not sure if it's the best choice to fight depression.

hahaha, yeah I know. I like how hardworking they are.


AWW YISSSSSSS

On August 23 2013 23:59 Wintex wrote:
On August 23 2013 23:57 AgentW wrote:
On August 23 2013 23:56 Wintex wrote:
On August 23 2013 23:55 AgentW wrote:
On August 23 2013 23:53 Wintex wrote:
On August 23 2013 23:53 Plansix wrote:
On August 23 2013 23:51 c0ldfusion wrote:
[quote]
Seriously? why can't people just watch at work?

Some of us work at law firms that do not let you stream things to your PC, or access personal email. There is no watching at work.

Wow, I feel bad for you. Thank God for Shellbot.

I can second this. TL's blocked where I work, and I presume twitch too. Haven't checked. Shellbot's saved me many a time.

Sadly, today's my last day of vacation before returning on Monday D:

ugh... that sucks.

call in sick hahaeahueaheuaheuahe

1. It's my first day back in quite some time.
2. I don't have the standing to call in sick. And I'm not salaried. And I like money.

Aww.. Norway is pretty fuckin' imba. If you are sick, call in and get 100% cash flow. of course, if I live here later on, I'll try to become sick to watch shit I want 'cause I'm an asshole.

Does not compute :D

It's a problem in Norway. I've lost motivation to achieve because 90 % of Norway is depressing. I'm a student in the best school of the country and people shit on school trips tailored for media students. HOW THE TITS...

Thank God our class was basically halved this year. I hope I do well.

Let me help relieve your stress, giving me saturday as bomber fan number 1.

Pfft, why do you want to take my only safe haven away from me
The Bomber boy
GinevraFX
Profile Joined November 2010
83 Posts
August 23 2013 15:16 GMT
#2875
Poll: Recommend Group B Grubby vs Bomber Game 1?

★★★ - Good game (7)
 
54%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
 
23%

★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year (2)
 
15%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
 
8%

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

13 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Group B Grubby vs Bomber Game 1?

(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what

Roses are red, violets are blue, the only archon I'll make is the one with you <3
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
August 23 2013 15:16 GMT
#2876
On August 24 2013 00:16 c0ldfusion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 00:15 Teoita wrote:
Also high five to Rotterdam for liking Templar openings better :D


That seems to be more of a trend recently.


I wonder why :D
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
August 23 2013 15:17 GMT
#2877
On August 24 2013 00:14 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 00:13 Noocta wrote:
I honestly can't watch starcraft with commentary anymore.
I can't stand the style used to do it. To much effort to stay talking ALL the time, I lose my breath just by listening to it.

Watch KR stream. You'll pass out.


Haha
It's okay when I don't understand the language, specially since korean and japanese ( since I watch a lot of FGC stuff ) are really up & down in the tone. I find it more natural.

English can be very monotone to listen I feel.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
August 23 2013 15:17 GMT
#2878
nooo rambo reaper! D:
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krutopatkin
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany2612 Posts
August 23 2013 15:17 GMT
#2879
On August 24 2013 00:16 c0ldfusion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 00:15 Teoita wrote:
Also high five to Rotterdam for liking Templar openings better :D


That seems to be more of a trend recently.

Pros seem to be reading TL guides
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
August 23 2013 15:17 GMT
#2880
On August 24 2013 00:16 c0ldfusion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 00:15 Teoita wrote:
Also high five to Rotterdam for liking Templar openings better :D


That seems to be more of a trend recently.



It lends itself to getting the upgrades easier. You need the TC for the Archives, and that makes going for +2 upgrades much easier. That's why I like Templar over Colossus.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
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