• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 02:12
CEST 08:12
KST 15:12
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun5[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists19[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers25Maestros of the Game 2 announced92026 GSL Tour plans announced15Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid25
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists MaNa leaves Team Liquid Maestros of the Game 2 announced
Tourneys
WardiTV Spring Cup 2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament INu's Battles#14 <BO.9 2Matches> GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 523 Firewall Mutation # 522 Flip My Base Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss
Brood War
General
JaeDong's ASL S21 Ro16 Post-Review BW General Discussion Leta's ASL S21 Ro.16 review ASL21 General Discussion [ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro8 Day 2 [BSL22] RO16 Group Stage - 02 - 10 May [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro8 Day 1
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Daigo vs Menard Best of 10 Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Diablo IV
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread 3D technology/software discussion Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Sexual Health Of Gamers
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1481 users

[Up/Down] Group C WCS Korea 2013 Season 3 - Page 32

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 30 31 32 33 Next All
DeCoder
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland236 Posts
August 08 2013 13:23 GMT
#621
Are there any top Zergs out there that are doing well because I can't think of any? Life, Symbol, HyuN, Leenock and even Soulkey are currently on a losing record? Jaedong maybe?
Daogin
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada2308 Posts
August 08 2013 13:24 GMT
#622
Man Leenock what's going on, your making me depressed as hell
Leenoctopus <3, master of foreign events.
Irre
Profile Joined August 2010
United States646 Posts
August 08 2013 13:29 GMT
#623
no nestea award for Leenock

DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
August 08 2013 13:39 GMT
#624
On August 08 2013 22:23 DeCoder wrote:
Are there any top Zergs out there that are doing well because I can't think of any? Life, Symbol, HyuN, Leenock and even Soulkey are currently on a losing record? Jaedong maybe?

Jaedong is only really doing well outside of Korea though

On August 08 2013 22:24 Daogin wrote:
Man Leenock what's going on, your making me depressed as hell

I know, right?

He's just so fucking unlucky as well. If blizzard had decided to start the WCS thing ONE season later he would have gotten the nestea award TT

Really just hope Chae gives it to him anyway cause he did 10 seasons in a row. Don't know why only he should have to do 11 seasons in a row to get an award for 10 seasons in a row.

Everyone drops out of Code S at some point, he will come back. But it's just stupidly unlucky/depressing that he did 10 seasons in a row and still wont get the award. And to start the streak at this point is almost impossible. Would take 4 years.
리노크 👑
Amaril
Profile Joined August 2013
Germany105 Posts
August 08 2013 13:39 GMT
#625
YES! I knew he would make it!

[image loading]
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-08 13:57:31
August 08 2013 13:57 GMT
#626
Hell yeah Keen!!
3 MVP players in Code S ^^
#TheOneTrueDong
catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3836 Posts
August 08 2013 14:35 GMT
#627
T_____________________T avenji
I think it's finally time to admit it might not be the year of Pet
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12450 Posts
August 08 2013 15:42 GMT
#628
Damn we got the wrong protoss through :/ Gratz Keen, but Ruin or Avenge (especially Ruin imo) would have fared way better than HS in code S, unless HS is suddenly way better than he has shown before today. Well, gg anyway ofc, he's through so he deserves it.
No will to live, no wish to die
Jmanthedragonguy
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada1202 Posts
August 08 2013 15:58 GMT
#629
Pigbaby o_o
Meow-Meow
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Germany451 Posts
August 08 2013 16:02 GMT
#630
On August 09 2013 00:58 Jmanthedragonguy wrote:
Pigbaby o_o


Weirdest name ever, right?

Barring "ZenexExcrement"...
| (• ◡•)|╯ ╰(❍ᴥ❍ʋ) Like all techno, it's hard to tell if it's good music played horribly or horrible music played well.
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11082 Posts
August 08 2013 16:09 GMT
#631
No Leenock
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
wozzot
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1227 Posts
August 08 2013 17:25 GMT
#632
No Life, no ByuN, no Avenge, no Leenock. Feels bad man
(ノ´∀`*)ノ ♪ ♫ ヽ(´ー`)ノ ♪ ♫ (✌゚∀゚)☞ ♪ ♫ ヽ(´ー`)ノ ♫ ♫ (ノ´_ゝ`)ノ彡 ┻━┻
ClairvoyanceSC2
Profile Joined February 2012
United States758 Posts
August 08 2013 17:27 GMT
#633
YEAH PIGBABY !
Apoteosis
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile820 Posts
August 08 2013 18:22 GMT
#634
leenock

i can't express the sadness that invaded my heart
Life won like 200k and didn't hire a proper criminal lawyer.
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
August 08 2013 18:36 GMT
#635
On August 09 2013 00:42 Nebuchad wrote:
Damn we got the wrong protoss through :/ Gratz Keen, but Ruin or Avenge (especially Ruin imo) would have fared way better than HS in code S, unless HS is suddenly way better than he has shown before today. Well, gg anyway ofc, he's through so he deserves it.

Well Ruin and Avenge didn't show themselves to be better than Pigbaby today did they? And Pigbaby showed that he can prepare good strategies in Proleague where he defeated RorO, Zest, and Rain.
jjakji fan
Rhaegal
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States678 Posts
August 08 2013 19:04 GMT
#636
On August 08 2013 22:23 DeCoder wrote:
Are there any top Zergs out there that are doing well because I can't think of any? Life, Symbol, HyuN, Leenock and even Soulkey are currently on a losing record? Jaedong maybe?



Leenock fell off for obvious reasons. Symbol was never any good, his cheese gimmick play finally being figured out.

How is Hyun on a losing record? Not winning a tournament means losing record?

Soulkey is doing very well... he's lost 3 series in his last 12 (2 to innovation, 1 to supernova) so don't know what you're going on about there.


It was expected that many or all the Zerg "gods" in Wings of Liberty would fall off in HOTS, it was impossible to know which ones were truly great. For instance, we've found out Life wasn't the next MVP like many had predicted.

Give it a few more months and we'll know for sure. We'll either see a lot more KeSPA zergs doing well, or realize balance changes are needed. Losira I think is the strongest eSF Zerg at the moment, his series against Reality was a hell of a lot better than anything I've ever seen from Life or Symbol.
http://www.twitch.tv/agonysc
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
August 08 2013 20:41 GMT
#637
On August 09 2013 04:04 Rhaegal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 22:23 DeCoder wrote:
Are there any top Zergs out there that are doing well because I can't think of any? Life, Symbol, HyuN, Leenock and even Soulkey are currently on a losing record? Jaedong maybe?



Leenock fell off for obvious reasons. Symbol was never any good, his cheese gimmick play finally being figured out.

How is Hyun on a losing record? Not winning a tournament means losing record?

Soulkey is doing very well... he's lost 3 series in his last 12 (2 to innovation, 1 to supernova) so don't know what you're going on about there.


It was expected that many or all the Zerg "gods" in Wings of Liberty would fall off in HOTS, it was impossible to know which ones were truly great. For instance, we've found out Life wasn't the next MVP like many had predicted.

Give it a few more months and we'll know for sure. We'll either see a lot more KeSPA zergs doing well, or realize balance changes are needed. Losira I think is the strongest eSF Zerg at the moment, his series against Reality was a hell of a lot better than anything I've ever seen from Life or Symbol.


Lol Symbol never any good? He routinely makes it into at LEAST top8 (sometimes top4, one time the finals) in the most difficult SC2 tournament in the world. That's consistency right there.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-08 20:51:02
August 08 2013 20:45 GMT
#638
On August 09 2013 04:04 Rhaegal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 22:23 DeCoder wrote:
Are there any top Zergs out there that are doing well because I can't think of any? Life, Symbol, HyuN, Leenock and even Soulkey are currently on a losing record? Jaedong maybe?



Leenock fell off for obvious reasons. Symbol was never any good, his cheese gimmick play finally being figured out.

How is Hyun on a losing record? Not winning a tournament means losing record?

Soulkey is doing very well... he's lost 3 series in his last 12 (2 to innovation, 1 to supernova) so don't know what you're going on about there.


It was expected that many or all the Zerg "gods" in Wings of Liberty would fall off in HOTS, it was impossible to know which ones were truly great. For instance, we've found out Life wasn't the next MVP like many had predicted.

Give it a few more months and we'll know for sure. We'll either see a lot more KeSPA zergs doing well, or realize balance changes are needed. Losira I think is the strongest eSF Zerg at the moment, his series against Reality was a hell of a lot better than anything I've ever seen from Life or Symbol.


lol I love Losira, but no...just no to being the best eSF zerg. His series against Reality only seemed impressive because Reality didn't know how to raise a supply depot (honestly don't think he deserved code S either that night). If anything, Losira's ZvZ is the only area where he's consistently looking strong.

Symbol never good? lol. I guess he'll forever stay underrated until he finally wins something. Fuck consistency right? Never mind that he had arguably the best lategame of any zerg in WoL and had a great run in the final season of WoL and even transitioned to HotS better than most Zerg. No, fuck that, all we know is the cheese that many other zergs do often as well because ZvT is tough...

What are these obvious reasons Leenock fell off? Is it because it's not yet the fall season? :p

Anyone with even a little understanding of the game knew Life was legit even during a period of Zerg dominance. His fall was unexpected to say the least.

Kespa zergs also got demolished in their SPL. So....not much better on their end outside of Soulkey really. Effort shows a bit of promise at times, and somehow soO is staying consistent. So I guess those two also deserve a mention.

I'd give it more time to figure things out, but really, it isn't looking good at all in Zerg land.

NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
jonich0n
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1982 Posts
August 08 2013 20:47 GMT
#639
On August 08 2013 22:39 Amaril wrote:
YES! I knew he would make it!

[image loading]

::bowdown::
(>'.')>
Rhaegal
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States678 Posts
August 08 2013 21:16 GMT
#640
On August 09 2013 05:45 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 04:04 Rhaegal wrote:
On August 08 2013 22:23 DeCoder wrote:
Are there any top Zergs out there that are doing well because I can't think of any? Life, Symbol, HyuN, Leenock and even Soulkey are currently on a losing record? Jaedong maybe?



Leenock fell off for obvious reasons. Symbol was never any good, his cheese gimmick play finally being figured out.

How is Hyun on a losing record? Not winning a tournament means losing record?

Soulkey is doing very well... he's lost 3 series in his last 12 (2 to innovation, 1 to supernova) so don't know what you're going on about there.


It was expected that many or all the Zerg "gods" in Wings of Liberty would fall off in HOTS, it was impossible to know which ones were truly great. For instance, we've found out Life wasn't the next MVP like many had predicted.

Give it a few more months and we'll know for sure. We'll either see a lot more KeSPA zergs doing well, or realize balance changes are needed. Losira I think is the strongest eSF Zerg at the moment, his series against Reality was a hell of a lot better than anything I've ever seen from Life or Symbol.


lol I love Losira, but no...just no to being the best eSF zerg. His series against Reality only seemed impressive because Reality didn't know how to raise a supply depot (honestly don't think he deserved code S either that night). If anything, Losira's ZvZ is the only area where he's consistently looking strong.

Symbol never good? lol. I guess he'll forever stay underrated until he finally wins something. Fuck consistency right? Never mind that he had arguably the best lategame of any zerg in WoL and had a great run in the final season of WoL and even transitioned to HotS better than most Zerg. No, fuck that, all we know is the cheese that many other zergs do often as well because ZvT is tough...

What are these obvious reasons Leenock fell off? Is it because it's not yet the fall season? :p

Anyone with even a little understanding of the game knew Life was legit even during a period of Zerg dominance. His fall was unexpected to say the least.

Kespa zergs also got demolished in their SPL. So....not much better on their end outside of Soulkey really. Effort shows a bit of promise at times, and somehow soO is staying consistent. So I guess those two also deserve a mention.

I'd give it more time to figure things out, but really, it isn't looking good at all in Zerg land.




His builds relied heavily on infestor abuse in WoL, and his mechanics were much worse than the other top zergs.

So, after watching Losira's series vs Reality, you think there is an eSF Zerg with better mechanics/multitask than Losira? I'm not talking about wins/losses. I'm talking about analyzing a player's games. Life plays poorly atm, win or lose, same with Symbol and Leenock. Losira does not.
http://www.twitch.tv/agonysc
Prev 1 30 31 32 33 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 18m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 233
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 8144
GuemChi 5276
Pusan 328
ProTech153
910 79
Dewaltoss 43
soO 30
Shinee 21
Noble 15
Bale 10
[ Show more ]
ZergMaN 8
Icarus 8
Counter-Strike
Coldzera 1824
Stewie2K746
m0e_tv377
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King122
Other Games
summit1g6921
C9.Mang0500
RuFF_SC257
Livibee22
amsayoshi7
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick899
BasetradeTV236
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream157
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 3
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1494
• Stunt726
Upcoming Events
GSL
3h 18m
Rogue vs Percival
Zoun vs Solar
Replay Cast
17h 48m
GSL
1d 3h
Cure vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs Bunny
KCM Race Survival
1d 3h
Big Gabe
1d 5h
Replay Cast
1d 17h
Replay Cast
2 days
Escore
2 days
OSC
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
IPSL
3 days
Ret vs Art_Of_Turtle
Radley vs TBD
BSL
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
BSL
4 days
IPSL
4 days
eOnzErG vs TBD
G5 vs Nesh
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Jaedong vs Light
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Snow vs Flash
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-04-28
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
2026 GSL S1
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W5
KK 2v2 League Season 1
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.