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DeCoder
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland236 Posts
August 08 2013 13:23 GMT
#621
Are there any top Zergs out there that are doing well because I can't think of any? Life, Symbol, HyuN, Leenock and even Soulkey are currently on a losing record? Jaedong maybe?
Daogin
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada2308 Posts
August 08 2013 13:24 GMT
#622
Man Leenock what's going on, your making me depressed as hell
Leenoctopus <3, master of foreign events.
Irre
Profile Joined August 2010
United States646 Posts
August 08 2013 13:29 GMT
#623
no nestea award for Leenock

DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
August 08 2013 13:39 GMT
#624
On August 08 2013 22:23 DeCoder wrote:
Are there any top Zergs out there that are doing well because I can't think of any? Life, Symbol, HyuN, Leenock and even Soulkey are currently on a losing record? Jaedong maybe?

Jaedong is only really doing well outside of Korea though

On August 08 2013 22:24 Daogin wrote:
Man Leenock what's going on, your making me depressed as hell

I know, right?

He's just so fucking unlucky as well. If blizzard had decided to start the WCS thing ONE season later he would have gotten the nestea award TT

Really just hope Chae gives it to him anyway cause he did 10 seasons in a row. Don't know why only he should have to do 11 seasons in a row to get an award for 10 seasons in a row.

Everyone drops out of Code S at some point, he will come back. But it's just stupidly unlucky/depressing that he did 10 seasons in a row and still wont get the award. And to start the streak at this point is almost impossible. Would take 4 years.
리노크 👑
Amaril
Profile Joined August 2013
Germany105 Posts
August 08 2013 13:39 GMT
#625
YES! I knew he would make it!

[image loading]
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-08 13:57:31
August 08 2013 13:57 GMT
#626
Hell yeah Keen!!
3 MVP players in Code S ^^
#TheOneTrueDong
catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3830 Posts
August 08 2013 14:35 GMT
#627
T_____________________T avenji
I think it's finally time to admit it might not be the year of Pet
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12204 Posts
August 08 2013 15:42 GMT
#628
Damn we got the wrong protoss through :/ Gratz Keen, but Ruin or Avenge (especially Ruin imo) would have fared way better than HS in code S, unless HS is suddenly way better than he has shown before today. Well, gg anyway ofc, he's through so he deserves it.
No will to live, no wish to die
Jmanthedragonguy
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada1202 Posts
August 08 2013 15:58 GMT
#629
Pigbaby o_o
Meow-Meow
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Germany451 Posts
August 08 2013 16:02 GMT
#630
On August 09 2013 00:58 Jmanthedragonguy wrote:
Pigbaby o_o


Weirdest name ever, right?

Barring "ZenexExcrement"...
| (• ◡•)|╯ ╰(❍ᴥ❍ʋ) Like all techno, it's hard to tell if it's good music played horribly or horrible music played well.
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11048 Posts
August 08 2013 16:09 GMT
#631
No Leenock
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
wozzot
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1227 Posts
August 08 2013 17:25 GMT
#632
No Life, no ByuN, no Avenge, no Leenock. Feels bad man
(ノ´∀`*)ノ ♪ ♫ ヽ(´ー`)ノ ♪ ♫ (✌゚∀゚)☞ ♪ ♫ ヽ(´ー`)ノ ♫ ♫ (ノ´_ゝ`)ノ彡 ┻━┻
ClairvoyanceSC2
Profile Joined February 2012
United States758 Posts
August 08 2013 17:27 GMT
#633
YEAH PIGBABY !
Apoteosis
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile820 Posts
August 08 2013 18:22 GMT
#634
leenock

i can't express the sadness that invaded my heart
Life won like 200k and didn't hire a proper criminal lawyer.
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
August 08 2013 18:36 GMT
#635
On August 09 2013 00:42 Nebuchad wrote:
Damn we got the wrong protoss through :/ Gratz Keen, but Ruin or Avenge (especially Ruin imo) would have fared way better than HS in code S, unless HS is suddenly way better than he has shown before today. Well, gg anyway ofc, he's through so he deserves it.

Well Ruin and Avenge didn't show themselves to be better than Pigbaby today did they? And Pigbaby showed that he can prepare good strategies in Proleague where he defeated RorO, Zest, and Rain.
jjakji fan
Rhaegal
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States678 Posts
August 08 2013 19:04 GMT
#636
On August 08 2013 22:23 DeCoder wrote:
Are there any top Zergs out there that are doing well because I can't think of any? Life, Symbol, HyuN, Leenock and even Soulkey are currently on a losing record? Jaedong maybe?



Leenock fell off for obvious reasons. Symbol was never any good, his cheese gimmick play finally being figured out.

How is Hyun on a losing record? Not winning a tournament means losing record?

Soulkey is doing very well... he's lost 3 series in his last 12 (2 to innovation, 1 to supernova) so don't know what you're going on about there.


It was expected that many or all the Zerg "gods" in Wings of Liberty would fall off in HOTS, it was impossible to know which ones were truly great. For instance, we've found out Life wasn't the next MVP like many had predicted.

Give it a few more months and we'll know for sure. We'll either see a lot more KeSPA zergs doing well, or realize balance changes are needed. Losira I think is the strongest eSF Zerg at the moment, his series against Reality was a hell of a lot better than anything I've ever seen from Life or Symbol.
http://www.twitch.tv/agonysc
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
August 08 2013 20:41 GMT
#637
On August 09 2013 04:04 Rhaegal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 22:23 DeCoder wrote:
Are there any top Zergs out there that are doing well because I can't think of any? Life, Symbol, HyuN, Leenock and even Soulkey are currently on a losing record? Jaedong maybe?



Leenock fell off for obvious reasons. Symbol was never any good, his cheese gimmick play finally being figured out.

How is Hyun on a losing record? Not winning a tournament means losing record?

Soulkey is doing very well... he's lost 3 series in his last 12 (2 to innovation, 1 to supernova) so don't know what you're going on about there.


It was expected that many or all the Zerg "gods" in Wings of Liberty would fall off in HOTS, it was impossible to know which ones were truly great. For instance, we've found out Life wasn't the next MVP like many had predicted.

Give it a few more months and we'll know for sure. We'll either see a lot more KeSPA zergs doing well, or realize balance changes are needed. Losira I think is the strongest eSF Zerg at the moment, his series against Reality was a hell of a lot better than anything I've ever seen from Life or Symbol.


Lol Symbol never any good? He routinely makes it into at LEAST top8 (sometimes top4, one time the finals) in the most difficult SC2 tournament in the world. That's consistency right there.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-08 20:51:02
August 08 2013 20:45 GMT
#638
On August 09 2013 04:04 Rhaegal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 22:23 DeCoder wrote:
Are there any top Zergs out there that are doing well because I can't think of any? Life, Symbol, HyuN, Leenock and even Soulkey are currently on a losing record? Jaedong maybe?



Leenock fell off for obvious reasons. Symbol was never any good, his cheese gimmick play finally being figured out.

How is Hyun on a losing record? Not winning a tournament means losing record?

Soulkey is doing very well... he's lost 3 series in his last 12 (2 to innovation, 1 to supernova) so don't know what you're going on about there.


It was expected that many or all the Zerg "gods" in Wings of Liberty would fall off in HOTS, it was impossible to know which ones were truly great. For instance, we've found out Life wasn't the next MVP like many had predicted.

Give it a few more months and we'll know for sure. We'll either see a lot more KeSPA zergs doing well, or realize balance changes are needed. Losira I think is the strongest eSF Zerg at the moment, his series against Reality was a hell of a lot better than anything I've ever seen from Life or Symbol.


lol I love Losira, but no...just no to being the best eSF zerg. His series against Reality only seemed impressive because Reality didn't know how to raise a supply depot (honestly don't think he deserved code S either that night). If anything, Losira's ZvZ is the only area where he's consistently looking strong.

Symbol never good? lol. I guess he'll forever stay underrated until he finally wins something. Fuck consistency right? Never mind that he had arguably the best lategame of any zerg in WoL and had a great run in the final season of WoL and even transitioned to HotS better than most Zerg. No, fuck that, all we know is the cheese that many other zergs do often as well because ZvT is tough...

What are these obvious reasons Leenock fell off? Is it because it's not yet the fall season? :p

Anyone with even a little understanding of the game knew Life was legit even during a period of Zerg dominance. His fall was unexpected to say the least.

Kespa zergs also got demolished in their SPL. So....not much better on their end outside of Soulkey really. Effort shows a bit of promise at times, and somehow soO is staying consistent. So I guess those two also deserve a mention.

I'd give it more time to figure things out, but really, it isn't looking good at all in Zerg land.

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jonich0n
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1982 Posts
August 08 2013 20:47 GMT
#639
On August 08 2013 22:39 Amaril wrote:
YES! I knew he would make it!

[image loading]

::bowdown::
(>'.')>
Rhaegal
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States678 Posts
August 08 2013 21:16 GMT
#640
On August 09 2013 05:45 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 04:04 Rhaegal wrote:
On August 08 2013 22:23 DeCoder wrote:
Are there any top Zergs out there that are doing well because I can't think of any? Life, Symbol, HyuN, Leenock and even Soulkey are currently on a losing record? Jaedong maybe?



Leenock fell off for obvious reasons. Symbol was never any good, his cheese gimmick play finally being figured out.

How is Hyun on a losing record? Not winning a tournament means losing record?

Soulkey is doing very well... he's lost 3 series in his last 12 (2 to innovation, 1 to supernova) so don't know what you're going on about there.


It was expected that many or all the Zerg "gods" in Wings of Liberty would fall off in HOTS, it was impossible to know which ones were truly great. For instance, we've found out Life wasn't the next MVP like many had predicted.

Give it a few more months and we'll know for sure. We'll either see a lot more KeSPA zergs doing well, or realize balance changes are needed. Losira I think is the strongest eSF Zerg at the moment, his series against Reality was a hell of a lot better than anything I've ever seen from Life or Symbol.


lol I love Losira, but no...just no to being the best eSF zerg. His series against Reality only seemed impressive because Reality didn't know how to raise a supply depot (honestly don't think he deserved code S either that night). If anything, Losira's ZvZ is the only area where he's consistently looking strong.

Symbol never good? lol. I guess he'll forever stay underrated until he finally wins something. Fuck consistency right? Never mind that he had arguably the best lategame of any zerg in WoL and had a great run in the final season of WoL and even transitioned to HotS better than most Zerg. No, fuck that, all we know is the cheese that many other zergs do often as well because ZvT is tough...

What are these obvious reasons Leenock fell off? Is it because it's not yet the fall season? :p

Anyone with even a little understanding of the game knew Life was legit even during a period of Zerg dominance. His fall was unexpected to say the least.

Kespa zergs also got demolished in their SPL. So....not much better on their end outside of Soulkey really. Effort shows a bit of promise at times, and somehow soO is staying consistent. So I guess those two also deserve a mention.

I'd give it more time to figure things out, but really, it isn't looking good at all in Zerg land.




His builds relied heavily on infestor abuse in WoL, and his mechanics were much worse than the other top zergs.

So, after watching Losira's series vs Reality, you think there is an eSF Zerg with better mechanics/multitask than Losira? I'm not talking about wins/losses. I'm talking about analyzing a player's games. Life plays poorly atm, win or lose, same with Symbol and Leenock. Losira does not.
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