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Marcinko
Profile Joined May 2013
South Africa1014 Posts
August 06 2013 19:22 GMT
#1221
nice commentating!
....
DinosaurJones
Profile Joined February 2012
United States1000 Posts
August 06 2013 19:22 GMT
#1222
Well, just checked results to see Welmu screwing up my predictions. Good for him though! Now... I have to decide between Lucifron & Stephano... (sorry duckdeok)

Go Lucifron!! stephano... ;_;
xsnac
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Barbados1365 Posts
August 06 2013 19:23 GMT
#1223
most one-sided late game ever lol
1/4 \pi \epsilon_0
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
August 06 2013 19:23 GMT
#1224
What is the reason Zergs go for roaches/ling instead of ling/muta vs Terran ? It just to me seems you can never trade cost efficient vs bio.
Wingblade
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1806 Posts
August 06 2013 19:23 GMT
#1225
On August 07 2013 04:20 Wingblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2013 04:17 Wingblade wrote:
On August 07 2013 04:14 Wingblade wrote:
On August 07 2013 04:11 Wingblade wrote:
On August 07 2013 04:09 Wingblade wrote:
(T)LucifroN versus (Z)Stephano. TvZ.
Game 1. Losers Match.
Map is Star Station

0:00 to 4:00

Lucifron spawns to the top left.
Stephano spawns to the bottom right.

Lucifron with 12 barracks.
Lucifron adds a gas on 12 as well.
Reaper first for Lucifron.

Stephano with 15 hatch first.
Gas then pool follows the hatchery.
Reaper in the main doing some light harassment.
CC, factory and reactor on the barracks.


4:00 to 8:00

Speed and pulling drones off of gas by Stephano.
2 reapers get a single drone kill.
FAst third CC for Lucifron.
Reactored hellions started for Lucifron.

Double evo chambers and third base for Stephano.
Stim started for Lucifron.
Only +1 melee upgrades started, +1 armor for Stephano is late.

6 hellions moving toward Stephano.
Double engineering bay on the way for Lucifron. 1-1 starts.


8:00 to 12:00

Lucifron adds a starport for medivacs.
Stephano adds some roaches to push the hellions back and kills one.
1-1 finishes for Stephano.
Stephano adds roach speed and a baneling nest.

Combat shields starts for Lucifron.
Third base landed for Lucifron.
Lucifron finishes 1-1 and pushes out with bio + hellions.

ENGAGEMENT. Lucifron kiting back with a decent fight, but sheer numbers forces him to lift into the main base.

2-2 is pretty far ahead for Stephano compared to Lucifron.


12:00 to 16:00

Infestation pit added by Stephano.
2-2 finishes for Stephano and he moves in.
Lucifron with counter drops at the third and natural.
Stephano forced to move all his drones out of the natural.

Lucifron retreats to the natural and holds with SCVs.
Lucifron ahead 145 to 107 supply.




16:00 to 20:00.

Lucifron distracts in the main with a drop while attacking into the third.
Stephano loses a lot of banelings but Lucifron does lift and retreat.

Lucifron dropping back in the main while bio and a bunch of widow mines move in to Stephano's fourth base.
Stephano narrowly holds at the fourth, but more drops kill drones in the third base.
Stephano is having all his gas denied.

Lucifron ahead 170-94 supply with 3-2 upgrades against 2-2 upgrades.
Lucifron lands a fourth base.

Lucifron consolidates his whole army and moves towards the third base.
Stephano narrowly holds in front of the third again, but on such low eco.



20:00 to 24:00

3-3 near completion for Stephano.
Lucifron moves out with more units, including marauders for Stephano's ultras.
3-3 finishes for Stephano chitinous not quite done.
Stephano loses his fourth again.
Lucifron posturing at the fourth base.
Stephano narrowly holds AGAIN.
But another drop in the natural killing even more drones.
Lucifron moving out with more units.
PartinG fanboy to the max, Rain/Squirtle/Dear/Scarlett/Bbyong are cool too. I don't always watch Dota2 but when I do I have no clue what's going on. GOGO POWER RANGERS
Marcinko
Profile Joined May 2013
South Africa1014 Posts
August 06 2013 19:23 GMT
#1226
ah damn, my beer is finished, urgh!
....
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
August 06 2013 19:23 GMT
#1227
On August 07 2013 04:22 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2013 04:20 Noocta wrote:
On August 07 2013 04:19 Undead1993 wrote:
why do the zergs not build anti air, yesterday ret (game one at least) and now stephano t.t


You can't really add any anti air units if you try a roach ling bane style.
You need Queens and spores to defend until you can make a big attack.

If that doesn't work, you're just gonna slowly die.

just don't go for roach bane then? but i have to give it to luci, he is really on fire with his drops in this game. sick mutlitask!


Roach bane is the only thing that seems to work for direct army engagement.
Mutaling bane suffer a lot more against Mines.

As someone said, there's no good style for now in ZvT.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-06 19:25:22
August 06 2013 19:23 GMT
#1228
On August 07 2013 04:20 Tsubbi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2013 04:19 Undead1993 wrote:
why do the zergs not build anti air, yesterday ret (game one at least) and now stephano t.t


in all honesty zergs are pretty desperate atm and are trying various new styles but nothing seems really viable yet


Um Zerg anti-air are Hydra and Muta, neither of which are good against Bio/Mine.

To be honest, stephano could just leave 3 roach at each base when he knows 2 medivacs is in the air dropping everywhere


A medivac of terran units is easily stronger than 3 roaches.


:/

MAYBE Zerg should experiment with some Static defense with some hydra, just for drop defense. I'm not sure.
maru lover forever
Melliflue
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom1389 Posts
August 06 2013 19:23 GMT
#1229
On August 07 2013 04:20 Melliflue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2013 04:17 Melliflue wrote:
On August 07 2013 04:14 Melliflue wrote:
On August 07 2013 04:11 Melliflue wrote:
Lucifron vs Stephano
Game 1
Star Station

Lucifron opened reaper

5:00
Lucifron building double CC
Stephano researching speed

6:00
Double evo and third for Stephano
Hellions out for lucifron
Stim started

7:00
+1 melee for Stephano
lucifron pushing with 6 hellions
+1 armour for Stephano
roach warren for stephano

8:00
2 engi bays for luci, 1-1 started
starport for luci
third floating down for luci


9:00
roach speed and +2 melee started for stephano
medivacs on the way, and combat shields
baneling nest for stephano

10:00
zerglings headed for third, pushed back by hellions + boi
macro hatch in main
baneling speed, ovie speed
lots of zerglings for stephano

11:00
push by luci
pick by medivacs, takes bio to main
couple of spores started
2-2 started for luci

12:00
luci going full mmmm
infestion pit started
lots of banelings
some bio pushing stephanos 3rd

13:00
lots of drops
stephano attacking 3rd,
roaches break front

14:00
widow mines on ramp damage roaches,
banelings into mineral line, ouch
drops still there
+3 attack for luci

15:00
medivacs hanging around stephanos bases
4th for stephano
luci pushing again

16:00
widow mines burrowed,
roaches push back bio
luci picks up
maruader vs queen (marauder won)

17:00
Lots of widow mines and marines reinforcing
so many mines at stephanos 4th
marines killing roaches

18:00
4th not killed,
ultralisk cavern started
drops everywhere, doing a lot of damage
4th killed by luci

19:00
luci has massive lead, huge bio army pushing forward
luci has 70 supply lead and 4th cc mining
3-3 for stephano on the way
+3 armour for luci

20:00
bio pushing forward
stephano barely holding on

21:00
more maruaders now for luci to counter ultras (3 ultras)
still 70 supply lead for luci
drilling claws started,
widow mine line outside stephanos base

22:00
bio holding stephano in his base
another ultra down

23:00
good engagement from stephano but so outnumbered
80 supply lead for luci
luci pushed back

24:00
more bio for lucifron at edge of creep
(creep spread is quite bad)
couple of infestors get killed
100 supply lead for luci

25:00
stephano ggs!
Lucifron 1-0 Stephano
JazzJackrabbit
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1272 Posts
August 06 2013 19:23 GMT
#1230
That took much longer than it should have.
heartlxp
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1258 Posts
August 06 2013 19:23 GMT
#1231
On August 07 2013 04:21 Incognoto wrote:
Is Lucifron really a good Terran? Every time I watch his games he loses. ^^"

Lucifron should win game 1, I think Stephano will be knocked out 2-0.


This is exactly how I feel too, I've never seen him play well despite a crap ton of hype.
Marcinko
Profile Joined May 2013
South Africa1014 Posts
August 06 2013 19:23 GMT
#1232
WP Lucy.....
....
fastr
Profile Joined February 2011
France902 Posts
August 06 2013 19:23 GMT
#1233
Stephano survived 10 minutes with half the supply of Lucifron. I still believe
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
August 06 2013 19:24 GMT
#1234
matchpoint
careerpoint
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33627 Posts
August 06 2013 19:24 GMT
#1235
Poll: Recommend Lucifron vs. Stephano Game 1?

Yes (13)
 
72%

If you have time (4)
 
22%

No (1)
 
6%

18 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Lucifron vs. Stephano Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
August 06 2013 19:24 GMT
#1236
DID HE JUST SAY TERRAN IS THE HARDEST TO MACRO?

Read my sig Kalaris.......
scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
Melliflue
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom1389 Posts
August 06 2013 19:24 GMT
#1237
I tried a LR because someone asked for one then see that wingblade is doing one

This happened yesterday too
Dwayn
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany949 Posts
August 06 2013 19:24 GMT
#1238
On August 07 2013 04:23 Lysanias wrote:
What is the reason Zergs go for roaches/ling instead of ling/muta vs Terran ? It just to me seems you can never trade cost efficient vs bio.

not like you can trade cost efficient with muta ling
j4vz
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada976 Posts
August 06 2013 19:24 GMT
#1239
On August 07 2013 04:23 JazzJackrabbit wrote:
That took much longer than it should have.


Stephano warming up
someone_elses_lies@live.fr
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-06 19:24:58
August 06 2013 19:24 GMT
#1240
On August 07 2013 04:21 Prplppleatr wrote:
well, the only consolation is that i'm not the only one who doesnt know how to deal with mines and drops


he defeats lucifrons army while being 60 supply behind over and over again. What do you expect more? he lost the game due to bad multitasking during his roach/bane attack, nothing else.
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