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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 07 2013 07:05 GMT
#821
On August 07 2013 16:05 liberate71 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2013 16:03 Dodgin wrote:
It's been a while since the last kespa vs esf shitpost session let's keep it rolling

supernova > soulkey anyone?!


Wait, Tassadar is out of IM?

He's on FXO
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 07 2013 07:06 GMT
#822
On August 07 2013 16:05 liberate71 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2013 16:03 Dodgin wrote:
It's been a while since the last kespa vs esf shitpost session let's keep it rolling

supernova > soulkey anyone?!


Wait, Tassadar is out of IM?


Choya requested for Hirai to transfer Tassadar to FXO the same day it was announced tassadar joined IM
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 07 2013 07:06 GMT
#823
On August 07 2013 16:04 las91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2013 16:03 Dodgin wrote:
It's been a while since the last kespa vs esf shitpost session let's keep it rolling

supernova > soulkey anyone?!


An extremely close 2-1 series that I found incredibly entertaining?


that is also my opinion on that match
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
August 07 2013 07:06 GMT
#824
On August 07 2013 16:03 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2013 15:57 opterown wrote:
On August 07 2013 15:56 Scarecrow wrote:
On August 07 2013 15:51 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On August 07 2013 15:47 Arceus wrote:
On August 07 2013 15:44 opterown wrote:
On August 07 2013 15:43 poisui wrote:
As expected from Kespa.

On August 01 2013 19:39 poisui wrote:
Kespa hwaiting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! =)

On August 01 2013 18:58 poisui wrote:
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. Kespa hwaiting. =)

On July 25 2013 15:36 poisui wrote:
Kespa hwaiting. :D

On July 06 2013 14:17 poisui wrote:
We get to see Snute get ripped apart by Kespa. :D

On July 02 2013 18:33 poisui wrote:
Kespa players are just too good. :D

On July 02 2013 18:19 poisui wrote:
Kespa maps are the best. :D

On July 02 2013 15:33 poisui wrote:
Soulkey, Bbyong, and Fantasy, go go go!!! Kespa hwaiting!!

like literally your last ten posts

lol bitter much? hows your thousand one liners about Prime different?

you don't root for kespa or esf unless your intention is to bait(especially when people find it a very touchy subject), rooting for teams is different.

lol so not true, i like the bw pros so i basically root for all kespa players with minimal baiting

you bait plenty, although it's a bit better of late, but yeah there are true kespa fans who like kespa rather than elitist idiots

There would barely be any baiting discussion if you didn`t drag it up every 2nd thread where someone posts the word kespa


10 times
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
August 07 2013 07:06 GMT
#825
On August 07 2013 16:05 liberate71 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2013 16:03 Dodgin wrote:
It's been a while since the last kespa vs esf shitpost session let's keep it rolling

supernova > soulkey anyone?!


Wait, Tassadar is out of IM?


Choya retired as a player so he needs someone to send as Ace whenever he goes full Choya
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
August 07 2013 07:06 GMT
#826
On August 07 2013 16:06 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2013 16:05 liberate71 wrote:
On August 07 2013 16:03 Dodgin wrote:
It's been a while since the last kespa vs esf shitpost session let's keep it rolling

supernova > soulkey anyone?!


Wait, Tassadar is out of IM?


Choya requested for Hirai to transfer Tassadar to FXO the same day it was announced tassadar joined IM


Choya is my fucking hero!
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
August 07 2013 07:07 GMT
#827
On August 07 2013 16:06 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2013 16:04 las91 wrote:
On August 07 2013 16:03 Dodgin wrote:
It's been a while since the last kespa vs esf shitpost session let's keep it rolling

supernova > soulkey anyone?!


An extremely close 2-1 series that I found incredibly entertaining?


that is also my opinion on that match


Idk, I'm a sucker for base races and sub 100 supply 30 minute macro fests
In Inca we trust
FlyingDagger
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada61 Posts
August 07 2013 07:07 GMT
#828
Head to Head screwed over Byun and Life because they lose to soO, but it screwed over Dignitas in TI3 because they don't count head to head. so sad...
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
August 07 2013 07:08 GMT
#829
On August 07 2013 16:07 las91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2013 16:06 Dodgin wrote:
On August 07 2013 16:04 las91 wrote:
On August 07 2013 16:03 Dodgin wrote:
It's been a while since the last kespa vs esf shitpost session let's keep it rolling

supernova > soulkey anyone?!


An extremely close 2-1 series that I found incredibly entertaining?


that is also my opinion on that match


Idk, I'm a sucker for base races and sub 100 supply 30 minute macro fests


Fantasy vs True on Whirlwind.

30 minutes long

10 minutes less than 50 supply combined.
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-07 07:08:36
August 07 2013 07:08 GMT
#830
I was looking at the up and down groups and I think there's actually a legit chance we might see 0 terrans advance

KeeN is probably the best chance left
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TL+ Member
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
August 07 2013 07:08 GMT
#831
On August 07 2013 16:06 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2013 16:05 liberate71 wrote:
On August 07 2013 16:03 Dodgin wrote:
It's been a while since the last kespa vs esf shitpost session let's keep it rolling

supernova > soulkey anyone?!


Wait, Tassadar is out of IM?


Choya retired as a player so he needs someone to send as Ace whenever he goes full Choya

Hahahahahah. Choya the next Hirai, stopping Hirai from even having a chance to go full Hirai with Tassadar
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
DigitalDevil
Profile Joined October 2011
219 Posts
August 07 2013 07:08 GMT
#832
On August 07 2013 16:01 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2013 15:59 DigitalDevil wrote:
On August 07 2013 15:53 lichter wrote:
On August 07 2013 15:52 DigitalDevil wrote:
Wait, why is the last game between Bang and soO not played? If Bang wins, wouldn't it mean a 3 way tie between Life, Byun, and soO? Why is soO getting a bye just because Bang is already out?


soO beat both Life and ByuN, so he advances.


That's unfair. He basically got an advantage due to the order of the matches played. He only played 3 matches and lost 1 and could have potentially lost another one, just like Life and Byun. You could say that Life beat herO, who beat soO. And soO could have potentially lost to Bang who lost to Life and Byun. It's a rock paper scissors scenario. You can't say that rock is superior to paper because it beats scissors, which beats paper.


If soO wins, he is through

If soO loses, he is tied, but wins the first tiebreaker, which is head-to-head record with those tied with him. Other results don't matter in weighing this tiebreaker.

It's not unfair. Head-to-head is a legitimate tiebreaker since he beat both the two involved in the tie.

soO's losses before the tiebreaker give him an advantage because they were to other people, whom Life and Byun may have beaten. They all lost 2 games, which should all be weighted equally.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12468 Posts
August 07 2013 07:10 GMT
#833
On August 07 2013 16:08 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I was looking at the up and down groups and I think there's actually a legit chance we might see 0 terrans advance

KeeN is probably the best chance left


I think Fantasy is through. Marineking has a manageable group, but he's disadvantaged by the fact that he's Marineking.
No will to live, no wish to die
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
August 07 2013 07:10 GMT
#834
The fun thing is that Kespa elitists are nowhere to be seen when Maru rolls Innovation, Bomber destroys Flash and Innovation, Supernova knocks out Soulkey, etc.etc. but when two good players that happen to be on Kespa teams make it through an Up/Down group with Bo1 format, everybody loses their minds
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-07 07:12:17
August 07 2013 07:11 GMT
#835
On August 07 2013 16:10 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2013 16:08 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I was looking at the up and down groups and I think there's actually a legit chance we might see 0 terrans advance

KeeN is probably the best chance left


I think Fantasy is through. Marineking has a manageable group, but he's disadvantaged by the fact that he's Marineking.

Fantasy definitely has a chance but personally I think he's pretty overrated in sc2 due to his BW accomplishments and could see him falling. He hasn't been exactly the most consistent sc2 player. Some days he looks pretty good, other days, not so much
On August 07 2013 16:10 DarkLordOlli wrote:
The fun thing is that Kespa elitists are nowhere to be seen when Maru rolls Innovation, Bomber destroys Flash and Innovation, Supernova knocks out Soulkey, etc.etc. but when two good players that happen to be on Kespa teams make it through an Up/Down group with Bo1 format, everybody loses their minds

Lois Lane confirmed to be the Joker
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
August 07 2013 07:12 GMT
#836
On August 07 2013 16:08 DigitalDevil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2013 16:01 lichter wrote:
On August 07 2013 15:59 DigitalDevil wrote:
On August 07 2013 15:53 lichter wrote:
On August 07 2013 15:52 DigitalDevil wrote:
Wait, why is the last game between Bang and soO not played? If Bang wins, wouldn't it mean a 3 way tie between Life, Byun, and soO? Why is soO getting a bye just because Bang is already out?


soO beat both Life and ByuN, so he advances.


That's unfair. He basically got an advantage due to the order of the matches played. He only played 3 matches and lost 1 and could have potentially lost another one, just like Life and Byun. You could say that Life beat herO, who beat soO. And soO could have potentially lost to Bang who lost to Life and Byun. It's a rock paper scissors scenario. You can't say that rock is superior to paper because it beats scissors, which beats paper.


If soO wins, he is through

If soO loses, he is tied, but wins the first tiebreaker, which is head-to-head record with those tied with him. Other results don't matter in weighing this tiebreaker.

It's not unfair. Head-to-head is a legitimate tiebreaker since he beat both the two involved in the tie.

soO's losses before the tiebreaker give him an advantage because they were to other people, whom Life and Byun may have beaten. They all lost 2 games, which should all be weighted equally.


The order is drawn randomly, so you can't blame it on that. The results are what they are and players shouldn't blame it on the luck of the draw. Because if you start that line of thinking, might as well blame "unfavorable maps" which are also semi-random. You can't go x > y > z to gauge the tied players including their games against other players, because it doesn't make sense and will always be tied. There are also no mapscores since this is Bo1.

Head-to-head between tied players is the fairest first tiebreaker.

soO beat both Life and ByuN. You can't just throw that away.

You could do a tiebreaker with soO up 2-0, ByuN 1-1 and Life 0-2 and make it a race to 3 wins. But that is excessively complicated.
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
August 07 2013 07:13 GMT
#837
On August 07 2013 16:03 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2013 15:57 opterown wrote:
On August 07 2013 15:56 Scarecrow wrote:
On August 07 2013 15:51 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On August 07 2013 15:47 Arceus wrote:
On August 07 2013 15:44 opterown wrote:
On August 07 2013 15:43 poisui wrote:
As expected from Kespa.

On August 01 2013 19:39 poisui wrote:
Kespa hwaiting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! =)

On August 01 2013 18:58 poisui wrote:
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. Kespa hwaiting. =)

On July 25 2013 15:36 poisui wrote:
Kespa hwaiting. :D

On July 06 2013 14:17 poisui wrote:
We get to see Snute get ripped apart by Kespa. :D

On July 02 2013 18:33 poisui wrote:
Kespa players are just too good. :D

On July 02 2013 18:19 poisui wrote:
Kespa maps are the best. :D

On July 02 2013 15:33 poisui wrote:
Soulkey, Bbyong, and Fantasy, go go go!!! Kespa hwaiting!!

like literally your last ten posts

lol bitter much? hows your thousand one liners about Prime different?

you don't root for kespa or esf unless your intention is to bait(especially when people find it a very touchy subject), rooting for teams is different.

lol so not true, i like the bw pros so i basically root for all kespa players with minimal baiting

you bait plenty, although it's a bit better of late, but yeah there are true kespa fans who like kespa rather than elitist idiots

There would barely be any baiting discussion if you didn`t drag it up every 2nd thread where someone posts the word kespa


It's painfully obvious that poisui's a baiter. Baiting != cheering for Kespa. Baiting = implying or outright saying that Kespa players are all better than everyone else, which is what annoys everybody because it's so obviously untrue.
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2955 Posts
August 07 2013 07:14 GMT
#838
On August 07 2013 16:08 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I was looking at the up and down groups and I think there's actually a legit chance we might see 0 terrans advance

KeeN is probably the best chance left


Well, almost every terran either qualified by bei g in the Ro8 or by winning the Code A bracket. There are 't too many terrans around right now - but the ones which are around simply don't lose :-/
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
August 07 2013 07:16 GMT
#839
It would be fitting for Life to retire aswell now along with stephano. This is the end of the WoL Monster Zergs :/
you no take candle
edgeOut
Profile Joined February 2013
United States945 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-07 07:17:56
August 07 2013 07:17 GMT
#840
On August 07 2013 16:13 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2013 16:03 Scarecrow wrote:
On August 07 2013 15:57 opterown wrote:
On August 07 2013 15:56 Scarecrow wrote:
On August 07 2013 15:51 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On August 07 2013 15:47 Arceus wrote:
On August 07 2013 15:44 opterown wrote:
On August 07 2013 15:43 poisui wrote:
As expected from Kespa.

On August 01 2013 19:39 poisui wrote:
Kespa hwaiting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! =)

On August 01 2013 18:58 poisui wrote:
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. Kespa hwaiting. =)

On July 25 2013 15:36 poisui wrote:
Kespa hwaiting. :D

On July 06 2013 14:17 poisui wrote:
We get to see Snute get ripped apart by Kespa. :D

On July 02 2013 18:33 poisui wrote:
Kespa players are just too good. :D

On July 02 2013 18:19 poisui wrote:
Kespa maps are the best. :D

On July 02 2013 15:33 poisui wrote:
Soulkey, Bbyong, and Fantasy, go go go!!! Kespa hwaiting!!

like literally your last ten posts

lol bitter much? hows your thousand one liners about Prime different?

you don't root for kespa or esf unless your intention is to bait(especially when people find it a very touchy subject), rooting for teams is different.

lol so not true, i like the bw pros so i basically root for all kespa players with minimal baiting

you bait plenty, although it's a bit better of late, but yeah there are true kespa fans who like kespa rather than elitist idiots

There would barely be any baiting discussion if you didn`t drag it up every 2nd thread where someone posts the word kespa


It's painfully obvious that poisui's a baiter. Baiting != cheering for Kespa. Baiting = implying or outright saying that Kespa players are all better than everyone else, which is what annoys everybody because it's so obviously untrue.


What's so bad about baiting anyway? Definitely better than bashing, and some of those "fuck u some player" comments.

Fuck you Zealously! For the fuck you give to those players.
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