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Northern Ireland27477 Posts
On August 06 2013 15:18 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2013 15:17 Wombat_NI wrote:On August 06 2013 15:16 lichter wrote:On August 06 2013 15:15 Wombat_NI wrote:
Flying is better than this showing right? I've seen him hyped up quite a bit but haven't seen too many of his games to make a judgement myself He either has brilliant builds or plays like garbage Wacky Toss personified So essentially Oz 2.0? Not sure I can be a fan, one of them is enough for my fragile heart  Proto-sOs
Hm, in my many sub-categories I just have sOs as merely 'stylistic', rather than in my pigeonhole of 'genius or woeful' along with the aforementioned Oz.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On August 06 2013 15:18 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2013 15:17 Tsubbi wrote:On August 06 2013 15:14 stuchiu wrote:
Somewhere in Korea, Alicia is heading to Gom to destroy all evidence of this counter build. that was no counter build whatsoever, flying fucked up badly when he lost his 3rd to 10 roaches and 20 lings, delayed his photon overcharge for like 20 seconds and didnt forcefield at all lol Also that was Dear's build, not Alicia's, if I remember correctly
I thought Dear was mass cannons and Tempests?
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United States97277 Posts
On August 06 2013 15:18 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2013 15:17 Tsubbi wrote:On August 06 2013 15:14 stuchiu wrote:
Somewhere in Korea, Alicia is heading to Gom to destroy all evidence of this counter build. that was no counter build whatsoever, flying fucked up badly when he lost his 3rd to 10 roaches and 20 lings, delayed his photon overcharge for like 20 seconds and didnt forcefield at all lol Also that was Dear's build, not Alicia's, if I remember correctly
I thought Dear's build was Tempests + cannons. Creator and Alicia were the mass void ray guys
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On August 06 2013 15:19 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2013 15:18 lichter wrote:On August 06 2013 15:17 Wombat_NI wrote:On August 06 2013 15:16 lichter wrote:On August 06 2013 15:15 Wombat_NI wrote:
Flying is better than this showing right? I've seen him hyped up quite a bit but haven't seen too many of his games to make a judgement myself He either has brilliant builds or plays like garbage Wacky Toss personified So essentially Oz 2.0? Not sure I can be a fan, one of them is enough for my fragile heart Proto-sOs Hm, in my many sub-categories I just have sOs as merely 'stylistic', rather than in my pigeonhole of 'genius or woeful' along with the aforementioned Oz.
I have him as the guy with the bat.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On August 06 2013 15:19 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2013 15:18 lichter wrote:On August 06 2013 15:17 Wombat_NI wrote:On August 06 2013 15:16 lichter wrote:On August 06 2013 15:15 Wombat_NI wrote:
Flying is better than this showing right? I've seen him hyped up quite a bit but haven't seen too many of his games to make a judgement myself He either has brilliant builds or plays like garbage Wacky Toss personified So essentially Oz 2.0? Not sure I can be a fan, one of them is enough for my fragile heart Proto-sOs Hm, in my many sub-categories I just have sOs as merely 'stylistic', rather than in my pigeonhole of 'genius or woeful' along with the aforementioned Oz.
sOs is horrible versus Terran. 37% winrate.
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Northern Ireland27477 Posts
On August 06 2013 15:19 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2013 15:18 Nebuchad wrote:On August 06 2013 15:17 Tsubbi wrote:On August 06 2013 15:14 stuchiu wrote:
Somewhere in Korea, Alicia is heading to Gom to destroy all evidence of this counter build. that was no counter build whatsoever, flying fucked up badly when he lost his 3rd to 10 roaches and 20 lings, delayed his photon overcharge for like 20 seconds and didnt forcefield at all lol Also that was Dear's build, not Alicia's, if I remember correctly I thought Dear's build was Tempests + cannons. Creator and Alicia were the mass void ray guys
Alicia's build is actually good and well thought-out and he knows his way around it.
Simply building Void Rays is not a build
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United States97277 Posts
On August 06 2013 15:20 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2013 15:19 Shellshock1122 wrote:On August 06 2013 15:18 Nebuchad wrote:On August 06 2013 15:17 Tsubbi wrote:On August 06 2013 15:14 stuchiu wrote:
Somewhere in Korea, Alicia is heading to Gom to destroy all evidence of this counter build. that was no counter build whatsoever, flying fucked up badly when he lost his 3rd to 10 roaches and 20 lings, delayed his photon overcharge for like 20 seconds and didnt forcefield at all lol Also that was Dear's build, not Alicia's, if I remember correctly I thought Dear's build was Tempests + cannons. Creator and Alicia were the mass void ray guys Alicia's build is actually good and well thought-out and he knows his way around it. Simply building Void Rays is not a build
well obviously. I'm just talking about the core idea behind it
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On August 06 2013 15:20 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2013 15:19 Wombat_NI wrote:On August 06 2013 15:18 lichter wrote:On August 06 2013 15:17 Wombat_NI wrote:On August 06 2013 15:16 lichter wrote:On August 06 2013 15:15 Wombat_NI wrote:
Flying is better than this showing right? I've seen him hyped up quite a bit but haven't seen too many of his games to make a judgement myself He either has brilliant builds or plays like garbage Wacky Toss personified So essentially Oz 2.0? Not sure I can be a fan, one of them is enough for my fragile heart Proto-sOs Hm, in my many sub-categories I just have sOs as merely 'stylistic', rather than in my pigeonhole of 'genius or woeful' along with the aforementioned Oz. sOs is horrible versus Terran. 37% winrate.
Such is the way of protoss. You can be the craziest madman in PvZ, if you try anything similar against terran you will crash and burn
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On August 06 2013 15:19 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2013 15:18 Nebuchad wrote:On August 06 2013 15:17 Tsubbi wrote:On August 06 2013 15:14 stuchiu wrote:
Somewhere in Korea, Alicia is heading to Gom to destroy all evidence of this counter build. that was no counter build whatsoever, flying fucked up badly when he lost his 3rd to 10 roaches and 20 lings, delayed his photon overcharge for like 20 seconds and didnt forcefield at all lol Also that was Dear's build, not Alicia's, if I remember correctly I thought Dear was mass cannons and Tempests?
Yeah my reasoning was that Dear relied on cannons + templars to get his skytoss up, while Alicia relies on sentries. That's why what Flying did reminded me more of Dear, but he didn't transition into tempests at all so that's something else again (Creator?)
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On August 06 2013 15:21 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2013 15:20 lichter wrote:On August 06 2013 15:19 Wombat_NI wrote:On August 06 2013 15:18 lichter wrote:On August 06 2013 15:17 Wombat_NI wrote:On August 06 2013 15:16 lichter wrote:On August 06 2013 15:15 Wombat_NI wrote:
Flying is better than this showing right? I've seen him hyped up quite a bit but haven't seen too many of his games to make a judgement myself He either has brilliant builds or plays like garbage Wacky Toss personified So essentially Oz 2.0? Not sure I can be a fan, one of them is enough for my fragile heart Proto-sOs Hm, in my many sub-categories I just have sOs as merely 'stylistic', rather than in my pigeonhole of 'genius or woeful' along with the aforementioned Oz. sOs is horrible versus Terran. 37% winrate. Such is the way of protoss. You can be the craziest madman in PvZ, if you try anything similar against terran you will crash and burn
That's why I find PvT pretty sucky lately. PvZ is actually the most interesting match up because of the number of builds possible.
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Northern Ireland27477 Posts
On August 06 2013 15:21 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2013 15:20 lichter wrote:On August 06 2013 15:19 Wombat_NI wrote:On August 06 2013 15:18 lichter wrote:On August 06 2013 15:17 Wombat_NI wrote:On August 06 2013 15:16 lichter wrote:On August 06 2013 15:15 Wombat_NI wrote:
Flying is better than this showing right? I've seen him hyped up quite a bit but haven't seen too many of his games to make a judgement myself He either has brilliant builds or plays like garbage Wacky Toss personified So essentially Oz 2.0? Not sure I can be a fan, one of them is enough for my fragile heart Proto-sOs Hm, in my many sub-categories I just have sOs as merely 'stylistic', rather than in my pigeonhole of 'genius or woeful' along with the aforementioned Oz. sOs is horrible versus Terran. 37% winrate. Such is the way of protoss. You can be the craziest madman in PvZ, if you try anything similar against terran you will crash and burn
sOs isn't THAT bad vT. I mean he beat Flash at the Asian Martial Arts 'Worst HoTS tournament to date'.
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Northern Ireland27477 Posts
On August 06 2013 15:21 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2013 15:20 Wombat_NI wrote:On August 06 2013 15:19 Shellshock1122 wrote:On August 06 2013 15:18 Nebuchad wrote:On August 06 2013 15:17 Tsubbi wrote:On August 06 2013 15:14 stuchiu wrote:
Somewhere in Korea, Alicia is heading to Gom to destroy all evidence of this counter build. that was no counter build whatsoever, flying fucked up badly when he lost his 3rd to 10 roaches and 20 lings, delayed his photon overcharge for like 20 seconds and didnt forcefield at all lol Also that was Dear's build, not Alicia's, if I remember correctly I thought Dear's build was Tempests + cannons. Creator and Alicia were the mass void ray guys Alicia's build is actually good and well thought-out and he knows his way around it. Simply building Void Rays is not a build well obviously. I'm just talking about the core idea behind it
Oh yeah, I mean don't get me wrong I don't mean to get pissy, I just feel that Alicia's build is actually a lot more cerebral and well-thought out than he gets credit for.
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On August 06 2013 15:23 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2013 15:21 DarkLordOlli wrote:On August 06 2013 15:20 lichter wrote:On August 06 2013 15:19 Wombat_NI wrote:On August 06 2013 15:18 lichter wrote:On August 06 2013 15:17 Wombat_NI wrote:On August 06 2013 15:16 lichter wrote:On August 06 2013 15:15 Wombat_NI wrote:
Flying is better than this showing right? I've seen him hyped up quite a bit but haven't seen too many of his games to make a judgement myself He either has brilliant builds or plays like garbage Wacky Toss personified So essentially Oz 2.0? Not sure I can be a fan, one of them is enough for my fragile heart Proto-sOs Hm, in my many sub-categories I just have sOs as merely 'stylistic', rather than in my pigeonhole of 'genius or woeful' along with the aforementioned Oz. sOs is horrible versus Terran. 37% winrate. Such is the way of protoss. You can be the craziest madman in PvZ, if you try anything similar against terran you will crash and burn That's why I find PvT pretty sucky lately. PvZ is actually the most interesting match up because of the number of builds possible.
Agreed, PvT has become really stale. It's a bit too straight up with not that much thinking involved. PvZ has mad techswitches, multitasking and more small scale engagements.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On August 06 2013 15:27 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2013 15:23 lichter wrote:On August 06 2013 15:21 DarkLordOlli wrote:On August 06 2013 15:20 lichter wrote:On August 06 2013 15:19 Wombat_NI wrote:On August 06 2013 15:18 lichter wrote:On August 06 2013 15:17 Wombat_NI wrote:On August 06 2013 15:16 lichter wrote:On August 06 2013 15:15 Wombat_NI wrote:
Flying is better than this showing right? I've seen him hyped up quite a bit but haven't seen too many of his games to make a judgement myself He either has brilliant builds or plays like garbage Wacky Toss personified So essentially Oz 2.0? Not sure I can be a fan, one of them is enough for my fragile heart Proto-sOs Hm, in my many sub-categories I just have sOs as merely 'stylistic', rather than in my pigeonhole of 'genius or woeful' along with the aforementioned Oz. sOs is horrible versus Terran. 37% winrate. Such is the way of protoss. You can be the craziest madman in PvZ, if you try anything similar against terran you will crash and burn That's why I find PvT pretty sucky lately. PvZ is actually the most interesting match up because of the number of builds possible. Agreed, PvT has become really stale. It's a bit too straight up with not that much thinking involved. PvZ has mad techswitches, multitasking and more small scale engagements.
You should make a report about it Lois
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On August 06 2013 15:28 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2013 15:27 DarkLordOlli wrote:On August 06 2013 15:23 lichter wrote:On August 06 2013 15:21 DarkLordOlli wrote:On August 06 2013 15:20 lichter wrote:On August 06 2013 15:19 Wombat_NI wrote:On August 06 2013 15:18 lichter wrote:On August 06 2013 15:17 Wombat_NI wrote:On August 06 2013 15:16 lichter wrote:On August 06 2013 15:15 Wombat_NI wrote:
Flying is better than this showing right? I've seen him hyped up quite a bit but haven't seen too many of his games to make a judgement myself He either has brilliant builds or plays like garbage Wacky Toss personified So essentially Oz 2.0? Not sure I can be a fan, one of them is enough for my fragile heart Proto-sOs Hm, in my many sub-categories I just have sOs as merely 'stylistic', rather than in my pigeonhole of 'genius or woeful' along with the aforementioned Oz. sOs is horrible versus Terran. 37% winrate. Such is the way of protoss. You can be the craziest madman in PvZ, if you try anything similar against terran you will crash and burn That's why I find PvT pretty sucky lately. PvZ is actually the most interesting match up because of the number of builds possible. Agreed, PvT has become really stale. It's a bit too straight up with not that much thinking involved. PvZ has mad techswitches, multitasking and more small scale engagements. You should make a report about it Lois
How are your parents
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Is Super still undefeated PvT? I'm sure Wolfdor said it but I didn't pay attention.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
I wonder if Terrans prefer having medivac boost or just no MSC.
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On August 06 2013 15:27 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2013 15:23 lichter wrote:On August 06 2013 15:21 DarkLordOlli wrote:On August 06 2013 15:20 lichter wrote:On August 06 2013 15:19 Wombat_NI wrote:On August 06 2013 15:18 lichter wrote:On August 06 2013 15:17 Wombat_NI wrote:On August 06 2013 15:16 lichter wrote:On August 06 2013 15:15 Wombat_NI wrote:
Flying is better than this showing right? I've seen him hyped up quite a bit but haven't seen too many of his games to make a judgement myself He either has brilliant builds or plays like garbage Wacky Toss personified So essentially Oz 2.0? Not sure I can be a fan, one of them is enough for my fragile heart Proto-sOs Hm, in my many sub-categories I just have sOs as merely 'stylistic', rather than in my pigeonhole of 'genius or woeful' along with the aforementioned Oz. sOs is horrible versus Terran. 37% winrate. Such is the way of protoss. You can be the craziest madman in PvZ, if you try anything similar against terran you will crash and burn That's why I find PvT pretty sucky lately. PvZ is actually the most interesting match up because of the number of builds possible. Agreed, PvT has become really stale. It's a bit too straight up with not that much thinking involved. PvZ has mad techswitches, multitasking and more small scale engagements.
100% agree, in fact both terran matchups are pretty stale lately imho while pvz is developing quite nicely
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United States97277 Posts
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