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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25431 Posts
August 06 2013 06:19 GMT
#321
On August 06 2013 15:18 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 15:17 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:16 lichter wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:15 Wombat_NI wrote:
Flying is better than this showing right? I've seen him hyped up quite a bit but haven't seen too many of his games to make a judgement myself


He either has brilliant builds or plays like garbage

Wacky Toss personified

So essentially Oz 2.0? Not sure I can be a fan, one of them is enough for my fragile heart


Proto-sOs

Hm, in my many sub-categories I just have sOs as merely 'stylistic', rather than in my pigeonhole of 'genius or woeful' along with the aforementioned Oz.

'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 06 2013 06:19 GMT
#322
On August 06 2013 15:18 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 15:17 Tsubbi wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:14 stuchiu wrote:
Somewhere in Korea, Alicia is heading to Gom to destroy all evidence of this counter build.


that was no counter build whatsoever, flying fucked up badly when he lost his 3rd to 10 roaches and 20 lings, delayed his photon overcharge for like 20 seconds and didnt forcefield at all lol


Also that was Dear's build, not Alicia's, if I remember correctly


I thought Dear was mass cannons and Tempests?
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 06 2013 06:19 GMT
#323
On August 06 2013 15:18 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 15:17 Tsubbi wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:14 stuchiu wrote:
Somewhere in Korea, Alicia is heading to Gom to destroy all evidence of this counter build.


that was no counter build whatsoever, flying fucked up badly when he lost his 3rd to 10 roaches and 20 lings, delayed his photon overcharge for like 20 seconds and didnt forcefield at all lol


Also that was Dear's build, not Alicia's, if I remember correctly

I thought Dear's build was Tempests + cannons. Creator and Alicia were the mass void ray guys
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 06 2013 06:20 GMT
#324
On August 06 2013 15:19 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 15:18 lichter wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:17 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:16 lichter wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:15 Wombat_NI wrote:
Flying is better than this showing right? I've seen him hyped up quite a bit but haven't seen too many of his games to make a judgement myself


He either has brilliant builds or plays like garbage

Wacky Toss personified

So essentially Oz 2.0? Not sure I can be a fan, one of them is enough for my fragile heart


Proto-sOs

Hm, in my many sub-categories I just have sOs as merely 'stylistic', rather than in my pigeonhole of 'genius or woeful' along with the aforementioned Oz.



I have him as the guy with the bat.
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
August 06 2013 06:20 GMT
#325
On August 06 2013 15:19 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 15:18 lichter wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:17 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:16 lichter wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:15 Wombat_NI wrote:
Flying is better than this showing right? I've seen him hyped up quite a bit but haven't seen too many of his games to make a judgement myself


He either has brilliant builds or plays like garbage

Wacky Toss personified

So essentially Oz 2.0? Not sure I can be a fan, one of them is enough for my fragile heart


Proto-sOs

Hm, in my many sub-categories I just have sOs as merely 'stylistic', rather than in my pigeonhole of 'genius or woeful' along with the aforementioned Oz.



sOs is horrible versus Terran. 37% winrate.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25431 Posts
August 06 2013 06:20 GMT
#326
On August 06 2013 15:19 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 15:18 Nebuchad wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:17 Tsubbi wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:14 stuchiu wrote:
Somewhere in Korea, Alicia is heading to Gom to destroy all evidence of this counter build.


that was no counter build whatsoever, flying fucked up badly when he lost his 3rd to 10 roaches and 20 lings, delayed his photon overcharge for like 20 seconds and didnt forcefield at all lol


Also that was Dear's build, not Alicia's, if I remember correctly

I thought Dear's build was Tempests + cannons. Creator and Alicia were the mass void ray guys

Alicia's build is actually good and well thought-out and he knows his way around it.

Simply building Void Rays is not a build
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 06 2013 06:21 GMT
#327
On August 06 2013 15:20 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 15:19 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:18 Nebuchad wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:17 Tsubbi wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:14 stuchiu wrote:
Somewhere in Korea, Alicia is heading to Gom to destroy all evidence of this counter build.


that was no counter build whatsoever, flying fucked up badly when he lost his 3rd to 10 roaches and 20 lings, delayed his photon overcharge for like 20 seconds and didnt forcefield at all lol


Also that was Dear's build, not Alicia's, if I remember correctly

I thought Dear's build was Tempests + cannons. Creator and Alicia were the mass void ray guys

Alicia's build is actually good and well thought-out and he knows his way around it.

Simply building Void Rays is not a build

well obviously. I'm just talking about the core idea behind it
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
August 06 2013 06:21 GMT
#328
On August 06 2013 15:20 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 15:19 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:18 lichter wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:17 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:16 lichter wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:15 Wombat_NI wrote:
Flying is better than this showing right? I've seen him hyped up quite a bit but haven't seen too many of his games to make a judgement myself


He either has brilliant builds or plays like garbage

Wacky Toss personified

So essentially Oz 2.0? Not sure I can be a fan, one of them is enough for my fragile heart


Proto-sOs

Hm, in my many sub-categories I just have sOs as merely 'stylistic', rather than in my pigeonhole of 'genius or woeful' along with the aforementioned Oz.



sOs is horrible versus Terran. 37% winrate.


Such is the way of protoss. You can be the craziest madman in PvZ, if you try anything similar against terran you will crash and burn
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12200 Posts
August 06 2013 06:22 GMT
#329
On August 06 2013 15:19 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 15:18 Nebuchad wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:17 Tsubbi wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:14 stuchiu wrote:
Somewhere in Korea, Alicia is heading to Gom to destroy all evidence of this counter build.


that was no counter build whatsoever, flying fucked up badly when he lost his 3rd to 10 roaches and 20 lings, delayed his photon overcharge for like 20 seconds and didnt forcefield at all lol


Also that was Dear's build, not Alicia's, if I remember correctly


I thought Dear was mass cannons and Tempests?


Yeah my reasoning was that Dear relied on cannons + templars to get his skytoss up, while Alicia relies on sentries. That's why what Flying did reminded me more of Dear, but he didn't transition into tempests at all so that's something else again (Creator?)
No will to live, no wish to die
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
August 06 2013 06:23 GMT
#330
On August 06 2013 15:21 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 15:20 lichter wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:19 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:18 lichter wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:17 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:16 lichter wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:15 Wombat_NI wrote:
Flying is better than this showing right? I've seen him hyped up quite a bit but haven't seen too many of his games to make a judgement myself


He either has brilliant builds or plays like garbage

Wacky Toss personified

So essentially Oz 2.0? Not sure I can be a fan, one of them is enough for my fragile heart


Proto-sOs

Hm, in my many sub-categories I just have sOs as merely 'stylistic', rather than in my pigeonhole of 'genius or woeful' along with the aforementioned Oz.



sOs is horrible versus Terran. 37% winrate.


Such is the way of protoss. You can be the craziest madman in PvZ, if you try anything similar against terran you will crash and burn


That's why I find PvT pretty sucky lately. PvZ is actually the most interesting match up because of the number of builds possible.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25431 Posts
August 06 2013 06:23 GMT
#331
On August 06 2013 15:21 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 15:20 lichter wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:19 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:18 lichter wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:17 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:16 lichter wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:15 Wombat_NI wrote:
Flying is better than this showing right? I've seen him hyped up quite a bit but haven't seen too many of his games to make a judgement myself


He either has brilliant builds or plays like garbage

Wacky Toss personified

So essentially Oz 2.0? Not sure I can be a fan, one of them is enough for my fragile heart


Proto-sOs

Hm, in my many sub-categories I just have sOs as merely 'stylistic', rather than in my pigeonhole of 'genius or woeful' along with the aforementioned Oz.



sOs is horrible versus Terran. 37% winrate.


Such is the way of protoss. You can be the craziest madman in PvZ, if you try anything similar against terran you will crash and burn

sOs isn't THAT bad vT. I mean he beat Flash at the Asian Martial Arts 'Worst HoTS tournament to date'.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25431 Posts
August 06 2013 06:24 GMT
#332
On August 06 2013 15:21 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 15:20 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:19 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:18 Nebuchad wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:17 Tsubbi wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:14 stuchiu wrote:
Somewhere in Korea, Alicia is heading to Gom to destroy all evidence of this counter build.


that was no counter build whatsoever, flying fucked up badly when he lost his 3rd to 10 roaches and 20 lings, delayed his photon overcharge for like 20 seconds and didnt forcefield at all lol


Also that was Dear's build, not Alicia's, if I remember correctly

I thought Dear's build was Tempests + cannons. Creator and Alicia were the mass void ray guys

Alicia's build is actually good and well thought-out and he knows his way around it.

Simply building Void Rays is not a build

well obviously. I'm just talking about the core idea behind it

Oh yeah, I mean don't get me wrong I don't mean to get pissy, I just feel that Alicia's build is actually a lot more cerebral and well-thought out than he gets credit for.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
August 06 2013 06:27 GMT
#333
On August 06 2013 15:23 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 15:21 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:20 lichter wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:19 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:18 lichter wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:17 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:16 lichter wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:15 Wombat_NI wrote:
Flying is better than this showing right? I've seen him hyped up quite a bit but haven't seen too many of his games to make a judgement myself


He either has brilliant builds or plays like garbage

Wacky Toss personified

So essentially Oz 2.0? Not sure I can be a fan, one of them is enough for my fragile heart


Proto-sOs

Hm, in my many sub-categories I just have sOs as merely 'stylistic', rather than in my pigeonhole of 'genius or woeful' along with the aforementioned Oz.



sOs is horrible versus Terran. 37% winrate.


Such is the way of protoss. You can be the craziest madman in PvZ, if you try anything similar against terran you will crash and burn


That's why I find PvT pretty sucky lately. PvZ is actually the most interesting match up because of the number of builds possible.


Agreed, PvT has become really stale. It's a bit too straight up with not that much thinking involved. PvZ has mad techswitches, multitasking and more small scale engagements.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 06 2013 06:27 GMT
#334
(P)Super vs (T)YoDa

0:00 Savage spawning bottom left and Yoda spawning bottom right.
1:00 10 depot for Yoda and 9 pylon for Savage. Proxy rax outside Savage's base!!!!!
2:00 12 gate double refinery for Savage.
3:00 Core for Savage. Another rax in Yoda's base. Expansion for Savage!
4:30 Reaper down but 4 workers lost for Savage. Expansion started for Yoda(at :50).
5:00 Wrap gate tech started. Super in a better position. Robo for Savage and refinery for yoda.
6:35 orbital command. Factory going down as well as forge for Savage.

Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
August 06 2013 06:28 GMT
#335
On August 06 2013 15:27 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 15:23 lichter wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:21 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:20 lichter wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:19 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:18 lichter wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:17 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:16 lichter wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:15 Wombat_NI wrote:
Flying is better than this showing right? I've seen him hyped up quite a bit but haven't seen too many of his games to make a judgement myself


He either has brilliant builds or plays like garbage

Wacky Toss personified

So essentially Oz 2.0? Not sure I can be a fan, one of them is enough for my fragile heart


Proto-sOs

Hm, in my many sub-categories I just have sOs as merely 'stylistic', rather than in my pigeonhole of 'genius or woeful' along with the aforementioned Oz.



sOs is horrible versus Terran. 37% winrate.


Such is the way of protoss. You can be the craziest madman in PvZ, if you try anything similar against terran you will crash and burn


That's why I find PvT pretty sucky lately. PvZ is actually the most interesting match up because of the number of builds possible.


Agreed, PvT has become really stale. It's a bit too straight up with not that much thinking involved. PvZ has mad techswitches, multitasking and more small scale engagements.


You should make a report about it Lois
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
August 06 2013 06:29 GMT
#336
On August 06 2013 15:28 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 15:27 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:23 lichter wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:21 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:20 lichter wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:19 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:18 lichter wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:17 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:16 lichter wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:15 Wombat_NI wrote:
Flying is better than this showing right? I've seen him hyped up quite a bit but haven't seen too many of his games to make a judgement myself


He either has brilliant builds or plays like garbage

Wacky Toss personified

So essentially Oz 2.0? Not sure I can be a fan, one of them is enough for my fragile heart


Proto-sOs

Hm, in my many sub-categories I just have sOs as merely 'stylistic', rather than in my pigeonhole of 'genius or woeful' along with the aforementioned Oz.



sOs is horrible versus Terran. 37% winrate.


Such is the way of protoss. You can be the craziest madman in PvZ, if you try anything similar against terran you will crash and burn


That's why I find PvT pretty sucky lately. PvZ is actually the most interesting match up because of the number of builds possible.


Agreed, PvT has become really stale. It's a bit too straight up with not that much thinking involved. PvZ has mad techswitches, multitasking and more small scale engagements.


You should make a report about it Lois


How are your parents
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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12200 Posts
August 06 2013 06:29 GMT
#337
Is Super still undefeated PvT? I'm sure Wolfdor said it but I didn't pay attention.
No will to live, no wish to die
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 06 2013 06:30 GMT
#338
I wonder if Terrans prefer having medivac boost or just no MSC.
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Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
August 06 2013 06:30 GMT
#339
On August 06 2013 15:27 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 15:23 lichter wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:21 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:20 lichter wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:19 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:18 lichter wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:17 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:16 lichter wrote:
On August 06 2013 15:15 Wombat_NI wrote:
Flying is better than this showing right? I've seen him hyped up quite a bit but haven't seen too many of his games to make a judgement myself


He either has brilliant builds or plays like garbage

Wacky Toss personified

So essentially Oz 2.0? Not sure I can be a fan, one of them is enough for my fragile heart


Proto-sOs

Hm, in my many sub-categories I just have sOs as merely 'stylistic', rather than in my pigeonhole of 'genius or woeful' along with the aforementioned Oz.



sOs is horrible versus Terran. 37% winrate.


Such is the way of protoss. You can be the craziest madman in PvZ, if you try anything similar against terran you will crash and burn


That's why I find PvT pretty sucky lately. PvZ is actually the most interesting match up because of the number of builds possible.


Agreed, PvT has become really stale. It's a bit too straight up with not that much thinking involved. PvZ has mad techswitches, multitasking and more small scale engagements.


100% agree, in fact both terran matchups are pretty stale lately imho while pvz is developing quite nicely
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-06 06:30:59
August 06 2013 06:30 GMT
#340
On August 06 2013 15:29 Nebuchad wrote:
Is Super still undefeated PvT? I'm sure Wolfdor said it but I didn't pay attention.

He is in GSL/GSTL but he got 2-0d by GuMiho in WCG KR for his only offline PvT loss in HoTS
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